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00:02:08.740 Hi, I'm Kate Berlant.

00:02:10.140 I'm Jacqueline Novak.

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00:02:32.420 Good morning, Poog. And I already was going to text you and say, we can't have video on for this. I'm ice rolling. 1.00

00:02:39.680 Well, we want video of you ice rolling.

00:02:42.840 Let me do the math.

00:02:44.420 I'm doing video. The people love it. It's as simple as that.

00:02:48.460 It's Sunday morning, if I may.

00:02:50.600 and I found myself awake okay I went to bed at 1 30 I woke up at 7 30 it's just not enough sleep

00:02:59.220 for me Jacqueline well no it's it's simply not for anyone and let's take a minute with this

00:03:03.820 so ice rolling's real for you yeah because I have one sitting in the freezer I have to say that when

00:03:10.800 my eyes feel puffy it's also just kind of helps you wake up it's an emotional thing as well this

00:03:16.400 is a cheap ice roller i have the same one i believe yeah yeah it's like right so what are

00:03:22.360 they gonna i like it although i have to say the wheel mechanism on this right now is uh catching

00:03:28.460 oh no she's rolling okay but under the eyes i will say when i do it for a little while

00:03:34.280 it does it does wake up the eyes did you ever explore sorry i just did like a disgusting

00:03:39.540 sniffle and i just i didn't even hear it i found myself wondering if you ever explored um those

00:03:43.840 nasal strips that open up your nose you know i'm talking about right the ones that people

00:03:47.560 breathe right call it yeah no for snoring they ever intrigue you well i feel like you know

00:03:53.920 everything's marketed for snoring i feel like i've said this on poo before but you know what

00:03:58.740 we all know now is like you have to breathe through your nose like mouth breathing leads to

00:04:02.660 like instant death yeah instant death and like massive and like hideousness well you know about

00:04:08.920 like the incels and mewing what i know i've brought up mewing in the past what but like

00:04:14.840 well there's all sorts of things basically mewing which dr mew has you know your tongue is supposed

00:04:21.500 to be pressed against the roof of your mouth at all times okay since since childhood good luck

00:04:25.780 oh yeah i've been working on it i've been working on suction to the top okay you know what's weird 0.70

00:04:30.760 i sometimes do that because jaw doctor once because of all my jaw shit and he said to do

00:04:34.800 that it's supposed to relax it's supposed to be your tongue behind your teeth towards the top of 0.87

00:04:40.140 your mouth is supposed to be a neutral relaxation spot for your jaw yeah they they this is the trend

00:04:47.600 okay this is the this is the new I don't even know what to say omega-3 tongue posture okay

00:04:52.720 it's big and but there are these like I think there are these reddit like groups

00:04:57.700 and I I don't know I've heard that it's sort of popular in the incel community because they

00:05:02.700 they can develop a jaw and a chin whoa they never had and then on the other side of it on the kind

00:05:10.460 of um facial yoga feminization side there's a lot on that end it's about um you know double chin

00:05:20.040 the whole thing because if you do you know not to be disgusting in the sense of whatever but if you

00:05:26.500 do you know obviously heinous forehead posture but and then well you have to describe i don't

00:05:32.220 know how to describe what you're doing well just say i'm in profile okay i mean i just said it

00:05:37.140 okay wait is something happening yeah watch my neck just look watch my jawline but if i can't

00:05:46.880 if i can hardly see it the listeners can see it even less well the listeners can't see it at all

00:05:53.300 i know that's what i mean i know but they're gonna look at i just want you to see it and

00:05:57.720 have a reaction okay and i stand by the fact that steve martin's greatest comedy album okay

00:06:02.800 was full of visual jokes god bless you and i and i love it okay i see your i see your something in

00:06:11.020 your throat all right whatever the point is it it creates a sharp line from the the jaw and also

00:06:18.340 the people are googling is what i'll say mewing people are wildly googling at this moment

00:06:22.400 well shall i take us through our list because i have 65 things to discuss

00:06:28.360 i'm coming back i'm coming back i can't believe coffee or you off it yeah i have some right here

00:06:33.740 no off coffee never a couple things i already fought a roach this morning no yeah what happened

00:06:41.740 i went outside um to the back a little area and i glanced up the side of movement inside my house

00:06:50.780 oh okay so i glance up to my window and i see my curtain and running up it walking up it

00:06:58.620 is a roach and a big one you know not the biggest but i'd say about 85 percent biggest you know

00:07:06.100 just sharp everything every detail of a roach you know what i mean this roach was not blurry okay

00:07:11.400 and up it goes and it's disappearing into a fold no uh i take a shot like a photograph i'm not going

00:07:20.220 in i immediately send it to chris who's sleeping okay and say i need you to come down because

00:07:26.860 you know he handles them now if it were you and me in a cave and there were a roach okay i don't

00:07:32.840 know you and me i don't know which one of us would step up remember wait jacqueline i trapped a roach

00:07:37.400 in a glass that one time remember in our hotel room oh that was incredible yeah that was beautiful

00:07:43.100 and left it under we left it under the glass to suffer well just i don't know i don't know if

00:07:49.940 that's suffering or if that's like slowly falling asleep yeah I was like I can't smash it but I need

00:07:56.820 it contained in an area simulating death I need it to essentially die and I also think in a hotel

00:08:03.000 room I think you've done enough I think if you've you've chased a roach into the into the bathtub

00:08:08.460 the spa bathtub as they call it yeah the big luxurious huge mirror over it you know where 0.91

00:08:17.620 you know hedge fund guys like stare at themselves whatever that whole thing yeah they jerk off in

00:08:23.040 the mirror i would like to prime you to say these things you know yeah to trap it under the glass

00:08:29.000 and say i think i think the hotel is gonna have to do the rest on this one yeah yeah thank god

00:08:35.160 chris comes down and by now it's disappeared into the very top of the folds and i see him looking

00:08:39.960 looking looking and i'm trying to see like based on his movements if i can tell whether he's at 0.69

00:08:44.740 least identified its location it's not he doesn't know what to fucking do okay he's like can't find

00:08:49.240 he's looking elsewhere I'm just like I'm like I'm going to a hotel yeah I was like I cannot I will 0.62

00:08:56.400 not be inside today I guess I'm gonna have to do a full clean a full you know move every piece of

00:09:01.800 whatever and then wait for them all with with cortisol shooting through my body as I wait for

00:09:07.380 the moment I find it I climb up on the couch I think maybe it's along the like vertical blind

00:09:11.500 behind my curtains i i turn on flash i lift my camera up like periscope style take a picture

00:09:18.900 okay because i can't see up there i bring the picture down i scream at the picture itself

00:09:24.740 no i scream i can see it and i took him i go chris can you see it he goes no i show him the

00:09:30.260 picture and then i look down again i realize it's not the it's not the roach it's the hardware at

00:09:35.100 the top of the thing roach is still missing but just scream at a photo you know what i mean

00:09:40.140 yeah yeah suggests the level of disgust that's why i can't handle it myself anyway i i run i get

00:09:47.420 my boric my food grade boric acid do you know about this no okay food grade boric acid it is

00:09:54.280 supposedly non-toxic it's a dry it's made of bone or something i don't know it's a fossil

00:09:59.020 it doesn't make sense okay but whatever oh and they choke on it it dries them out it desiccates

00:10:04.240 them and it's a brutal death it's like how they torture bed bugs and by torture i mean kill

00:10:09.980 well and death must come for them yes i mean there are certain things that we must defend

00:10:18.380 against so i go grab my dichotomous earth that i wait is it dichotomous earth oh i've heard about

00:10:25.400 this stuff i think it is dichotomous earth i think they're the same thing it's like crushed up bones

00:10:29.240 and then bed bugs apparently it works wonders yeah i think it works on all insects i get it

00:10:34.700 i pull out this thing i ordered that's like an accordion that you squeeze and it shoots it out

00:10:38.620 like a powder of dust you know so you can kind of get it everywhere and then i go running around 0.98

00:10:43.500 the house like doing this and then chris spots it under a shelf and he fucking gets it good he 0.97

00:10:48.860 fucking got it i heard him say quick fucker yeah anyway yeah so so that's so there was like you 0.99

00:10:54.920 know adrenaline first thing in the morning there's a cat pissing on my uh yoga mat and couch outside 0.99

00:11:00.580 on the um back back patio i've been using this thing called sco x wait guess what i forgot to

00:11:07.900 text you yesterday I did 16 minutes of yoga well grand Pilates yoga blend and I hadn't I hadn't

00:11:16.320 done anything in so long everyone I mean it had been yeah I did like 10 micro push-ups like a

00:11:23.800 week and a half ago I was like so where that's where you just go down an inch yeah I just kind

00:11:30.060 of did like panic and come right up yeah I did a couple bouncing yeah or like I just I can't go

00:11:35.700 all the way down but yesterday I said just do it and then I immediately did what you're not

00:11:40.960 supposed to do which is like I was like I'm gonna do that every single day for 30 days it's like

00:11:45.400 just try to do it twice a week you know I know and yet I mean I can't do something twice a week

00:11:52.680 I can sort of only do it every day or not at all so I gotta go back I gotta I mean do you though

00:11:59.340 yes because i really i like sorry i felt great after because also it's very low impact you know

00:12:05.640 it's the melissa wood thing so it's like yeah pilates breathing yoga i call it poga yeah i

00:12:14.260 was thinking in my head what is that i was like has kate said poga before i have a huge zit brewing

00:12:19.320 under my chin devastating remember when i had that oh my god it's finally gone and it was there for 0.98

00:12:24.120 like two months oh yeah remember i was like so this is why people lose their shit about you know 0.89

00:12:29.760 acne like i honestly thought it was more of a three-day thing here's an issue all right i have 0.90

00:12:35.780 a really long list for us today i'm gonna and i'm gonna keep it moving let's go let's go all right

00:12:39.400 you ready for this all right yeah one so cat yeah the cat's pissing on my on my couch i smell it

00:12:45.060 when i'm doing my tracy out there oh i think it pissed on my literal eric's yoga like not yoga

00:12:50.820 at thick your huge fancy one tracy recommended i mean like inside she uses it and then inside of

00:12:56.640 the forums they all recommend it you know it's not cheap folks and i'm like all right i take the 0.98

00:13:02.180 risks i take by leaving things out there so scoex what the fuck is that sco s-c-o-e-x i believe is 0.96

00:13:12.180 the only thing that will get cat piss um truly neutralized i have tried again and again is that 0.97

00:13:20.040 what is that soap it's a spray you have to mix it at home which is always you know convincing

00:13:25.220 okay oh you know what i mean like you have to they send the concentrate or they send the whatever

00:13:30.800 mix it at home and they even have a version where there's needles and syringes that you

00:13:37.020 pierce into your carpet and go deep so they're on like another level and i really believe and

00:13:42.980 i'm very excited about it and so i'm going to do that today i've already laid the mat on my

00:13:47.320 little patio chair and i'm gonna go out there and spritz it it's gonna feel great i want to

00:13:50.440 quickly say something that i've been meaning to say for weeks which is don't make it quick so

00:13:53.740 so so in the world of dish soap okay yeah i just compulsively buy the like green dish soap or

00:14:02.580 whatever you know seventh gen kind of thing in the supermarket i yeah exactly something like

00:14:07.020 something like that although apparently they're not even that truly clean you know something even

00:14:11.100 more kind of it's called green washing when they act like it's green but it's not yeah no exactly

00:14:16.080 it's it's greenwashing it's like myers or whatever it's like so i had like branch basics in my house

00:14:21.440 which is like very very clean you know it's like a solution you dilute it whatever so i was operating

00:14:26.180 with these kinds of home cleaning products i ran a dish soap i found in the back of my cabinet a

00:14:31.400 little thing of dawn like bright blue oh wow here we go here we go are you kidding me i was like

00:14:39.940 how well it worked yeah yeah i squeezed some dawn on a sponge i go oh the scientists in the lab did

00:14:54.320 figure out how to get grease off ducks backs or whatever and i was gonna yeah the oil spill

00:14:59.300 make sure everyone knows the oil spill okay so it's the most genius marketing campaign of all

00:15:06.440 that were like dawn and it was like and it was like all these poor ducks that had been greased

00:15:12.160 up in an oil spill and it's women like i don't know i'm saying women that's like they're women

00:15:17.180 and they're washing the oil off the ducks backs and it's like dawn and it's you know very sweet

00:15:22.460 literally cutting cutting grease you know what it's also good for getting getting grease off 0.96

00:15:28.820 of a goddamn dish and i was in there scrubbing away going oh baby i don't care what's in this 0.95

00:15:36.200 because and even the fragrance which was like soap i was like oh they're right comforting it 0.99

00:15:42.120 smells clean yeah i just felt i was like and that's and suddenly there were six sleeping

00:15:47.020 children in my house and i was mom and i had done my like i was the supermarket smells i was moved

00:15:53.640 i was completely because i always like palm olive always love i always love that smell

00:15:57.840 but i just you cannot beat the industry that the industrial soaps like the poison soaps i mean

00:16:05.500 it's just the question is maybe it's not even poisonous you know sometimes we how bad is it

00:16:10.260 like let's take a look maybe there's literally no poison in it like well it's like it's poison

00:16:14.060 the way that it's all poison like similarly you know with deodorant oh i have a deodorant

00:16:18.380 to talk about guys this is huge this is fucking huge yeah imagine imagine no because i you know

00:16:26.060 what i i know that people you know it's the same thing every time we talk about how the natural 0.79

00:16:30.020 dealings don't work and we get 75 emails this one works recommending natural ones and and i'm like

00:16:36.760 i've spent hundreds over the years on i remember i bought this one someone someone some like

00:16:43.480 gorgeous woman ones was like this is what i use and it's um fuck what's the brand it's this really 0.99

00:16:47.820 nice natural skincare line and they make this little rollerball of like deodorant oil or

00:16:55.160 something and i was like i remember it was 40 the size was the half was the size of half my finger

00:17:00.340 and i went i'll do anything are you joking it's that small it's so small it's like a roller of

00:17:06.000 oil almost like those not like those rolling deodorants in the supermarket but the roller

00:17:11.520 it looks like almost fragrance that's what i was gonna say yeah yeah it's like a fragrance roller

00:17:15.720 forty dollars nothing works shout out to my cousin miranda who recommended so it's called carpe it's

00:17:25.420 spelled c-a-r-p-e not an ad folks i bought it with my own money and it's like is there an

00:17:31.060 accent a goo industrial strength what over the e is there an excellent a goo or is it carp it might

00:17:39.600 And you've added a little pizzazz.

00:17:42.980 Yeah.

00:17:43.420 I'm just curious.

00:17:44.000 I'm not sure.

00:17:44.880 But anyway, go on.

00:17:46.660 I don't even know.

00:17:48.100 You know, it's a little, you know, the idea is that you're supposed to put it on at night and morning.

00:17:52.300 You know, they're like for 30 days, you know, which I haven't even committed to that. 0.98

00:17:57.780 It's fucking working. 0.97

00:17:59.280 And guess what? 0.99

00:18:00.400 I don't care what's in it, folks.

00:18:03.140 When you, well, wait, is it, does it, does it promote itself as natural?

00:18:08.140 No.

00:18:08.940 and god bless them for it oh so you're just looking for a deodorant that works

00:18:12.900 and you don't care what's in it because then welcome to i got news for you there are

00:18:17.120 ones in the supermarket no no they're not you want to hear the most effective and impressive

00:18:21.480 ad campaign maybe of all time okay we're lined it's so good they put it on the package

00:18:27.100 what mitchum so effective you can skip a day and i'd like to see you try try it honey it works

00:18:35.340 i don't know i don't know car pay is like it's like one of those things where you pump it up

00:18:42.460 it's like a cream sort of but it's clear the fear mongering surrounding deodorant

00:18:48.020 right well they continue to say it's not real yeah and i believe this is like the ways that

00:18:54.740 we just our parents wisdom or like our parents like perceived wisdom we still just want to

00:18:59.180 believe above all like my mom was always like that's not real there's no studies to prove

00:19:02.940 prove that like you're not gonna get cancer from deodorant like whatever and then there was something

00:19:07.180 that was released like in the last two years that was like yeah actually you're fine like all this

00:19:11.840 like fear around which by the way if i lived like an absolute monk right it's like i got in my head

00:19:19.780 about the stevia and athletic green by the way i'm not sure monks use right i'm not sure monks

00:19:24.640 inherently automatically use green products let's take a minute absolutely no there are monks using

00:19:30.120 degree for sure i bet you go into yeah i bet you go into this i can picture it perfectly okay you

00:19:36.620 go to the sanctuary i can see it so clearly and and it's like beautiful and it's everything you

00:19:41.040 think a sanctuary should be and then they're like well yeah you need to okay you want to leave early

00:19:44.940 you need to talk to the guy and you go and there's a little office okay and you get a peek of his

00:19:50.720 computer the head guy you get a computer you see a computer okay you see you see all the classic

00:19:56.640 products just sort of on his desk. Okay. The little bathroom attached to his office. It's

00:20:02.520 fluoride toothpaste. Yeah. It's all of it. Absolutely. It just is. And yeah. Okay. So

00:20:07.800 like, for example, I do athletic greens. I really do it like every goddamn day. Okay. 0.99

00:20:12.920 Yeah. And there's Stevia in there and I'm a little bit like, huh. But see, for example,

00:20:18.340 I don't, it's not like I don't consume, do you know what I mean? Like I don't,

00:20:23.020 I'm consuming plenty of shitty things. What's the issue with Stevia specifically? 0.76

00:20:26.640 just the what just another well you know it's really upsetting is it does the body break it

00:20:32.140 down what you know this this realization that as i try to manage as i try to become a god of

00:20:37.880 of glucose uh stability for you know energy and mood yeah that if something tastes sweet

00:20:45.820 your brain sends out an insulin response even if it's not actually it's monk something that

00:20:51.620 inherently so so sweet so technically stevia whatever that's at least one of these one of

00:20:57.200 these guys claimed and i forget if it was berg or hyman these are the guys that still ascending

00:21:01.480 still sending it so you're so if you literally can't so a sweet a fake a fake sweetener 0.81

00:21:07.000 fuck i started using the lumen it's a whole thing they sent it to us i begged and it's you know all 0.98

00:21:14.660 i do is breathe into my lumen and see if i'm burning um what i'm burning it's it's i mean i 0.98

00:21:19.600 I don't promote these things, but it is a nice piece of tech.

00:21:22.200 I'll tell you that much.

00:21:23.300 Wow.

00:21:24.060 Gorgeous.

00:21:24.660 Looks beautiful when it's charging.

00:21:26.580 There's a glowing purple ring.

00:21:28.500 They really have that one thing.

00:21:30.200 Beautifully charging.

00:21:31.740 Versus lying on its side.

00:21:34.360 Honestly, the solar wave, even just the simple glow.

00:21:38.360 Yeah.

00:21:39.420 God, I need to find my solar wave disappeared into the night.

00:21:43.220 I need it back because the simplicity.

00:21:46.340 It warms up.

00:21:47.480 I like not having a.

00:21:48.380 Well, no, you are supposed to apply.

00:21:49.840 It warms.

00:21:50.240 It's supposed to warm.

00:21:50.880 That's one of its features.

00:21:51.940 That's not like your computer overheating.

00:21:54.220 Yeah, yeah.

00:21:54.820 No, I know.

00:21:55.420 If that has freaked you out.

00:21:56.980 But I feel like it warms when you use the right serum.

00:22:01.720 Well, technically, the microcurrent, right, requires the conductive.

00:22:06.800 By the way, speaking of microcurrent, guess who?

00:22:10.060 I've totally fallen off zip and I have to get back on.

00:22:12.840 I know.

00:22:13.260 And as you know, I also purchased the Pure Lift.

00:22:15.940 It was like the biggest thing I've ever purchased.

00:22:17.720 whoa it was like 500 bucks or something and um yeah because it really it's like intense yeah

00:22:24.040 cranks it like your face is flying in various directions yeah like uncontrollably yeah you're

00:22:29.160 like lip lands above your eyebrow and you're like it's working so i got that and then and then

00:22:34.380 another big ticket item i mean i you know and are you using it and you well i'm about to say

00:22:38.820 and you have not opened it yet and it's a piece of technology we don't have if this is not doubling

00:22:43.720 the tripolar x or whatever okay yeah it's i forget which one it is radio frequency no

00:22:50.420 you haven't tried that one either that's a different one oh god okay that's laser and it

00:22:55.660 hurts it really hurts you did it in the back of my hand and i screamed remember yeah like the next

00:23:00.240 day i was like oh but of course it's exciting because you're like it's a real really real but

00:23:04.980 the tripolar x it's a different technology and it warms um it's not just warming like it's not a

00:23:11.700 heating pad you know what i mean but it does a thing it maps like the the temperature and it

00:23:15.420 gets it to the exact temperature or whatever it is that you know but you can guess you ready

00:23:20.720 stimulates collagen yeah yeah it's it's the same and i have a question about collagen do we just

00:23:27.300 have unlimited amounts of collagen because when they're whenever you know i mean they talk about

00:23:30.940 oh it stimulates collagen i go so collagen is forever you can just stimulate that do you know

00:23:35.920 no it stimulates it to create it to produce it so like as you age supposedly okay yeah yeah you

00:23:42.520 lose you're you stop producing you stop producing at the same rate similar to this you know the

00:23:48.200 cellular turnover the whatever and so but anyway those are the devices i'm really excited about but

00:23:53.900 how do we get to that what do you oh you've been off you've been off zip i i have gotten lazy as

00:23:58.440 well and for me it's really about putting on the product that you need to use to use it and then

00:24:03.920 knowing that i'm gonna have to wash that off if i want to buy all my other products yeah oh the

00:24:09.040 derma roller you know i i went for it i got whatever that one is purchased skin gym no oh

00:24:16.100 although skin gym sent us so skin gym sent us their hyaluronic derma roller thing but they're

00:24:22.140 disposable they're they're one time used because the little needles that are you know puncturing

00:24:26.120 your skin are made of hyalurons so cool they dissolve okay so you use it use it use it

00:24:33.900 on your skin until, until the needles dissolve. Like those other little patches, you know,

00:24:38.200 the little patches that like do that same kind of thing. So I really like that because you don't

00:24:41.960 have to clean it. Right. But I did decide maybe I need the needles. I saw some really impressive

00:24:46.320 68 year old woman's like YouTube videos and her results from derma rolling. And I was like,

00:24:52.960 it does make sense. Wow. I mean, puncture and insert serum. Yeah. You know, no, it does.

00:24:59.940 and puncture and stimulate the healing response whatever so i got it my only issue

00:25:06.000 i drench it in uh alcohol rubbing alcohol right okay before and sanitize yeah yeah and then i lay

00:25:15.000 it down and it's a little plastic housing this is i'm sorry i'm confused you bought this from where

00:25:19.380 i think i ordered it online so it's actual needles you know like a classic a true derma

00:25:25.520 roller with little needles i know they scare you i remember you saying micro needling is i guess

00:25:29.920 what it is and um doesn't scare me hmm scares me you're scared that you're gonna kind of like

00:25:38.040 jostle it i'll get like an instant infection and die yeah or just like hurt myself somehow well

00:25:44.120 if a tiny like needle pricked you just out in the world or i did it to you you're not automatically 0.72

00:25:50.640 a dying of an infection. Do you know what I'm saying? You can have injuries. That's like how

00:25:55.500 I also can't handle the IV drips, like the vitamin drips at like a smoothie bar. I'm like, oh,

00:26:00.220 I just get staph infection. They're like, oh no, we accidentally hooked her up to the fucking 0.99

00:26:03.640 orange juice machine. I don't. Wheatgrass straight in the arm. Yeah, exactly. Well, 1.00

00:26:10.280 I don't think you necessarily need to. I think you can have a certain bar when it comes to who

00:26:16.580 puts a needle in your vein yeah i'm like i'm not getting an iv done i mean i'm tempted i would

00:26:22.100 goddamn juice shop i'm tempted but i don't think you have to do it at the juice shop i do think 0.90

00:26:27.520 there are people you can trust to stick a needle in a vein but i you know like freaks me yeah i'm 0.97

00:26:31.660 not crazy about it either i'm probably a little more comfortable with the thing where they like 0.85

00:26:34.840 stab you in the butt oh the injection yeah that's just like going into the tissue yeah veins i mean

00:26:41.180 And yeah, veins are a little scary, I'll admit. 0.99

00:26:44.080 Oh, yeah. Don't like it.

00:26:45.480 But the microneedling is just tiny little whatever.

00:26:47.980 You probably did worse with your St. Ives apricot scrub.

00:26:51.240 Oh, for sure.

00:26:52.440 Remember that thing?

00:26:53.240 I mean, it was God to me for all of my adolescence.

00:26:56.460 And then I moved on to more gentle, in some ways, chemical exfoliation.

00:27:02.380 Of course, chemical exfoliation.

00:27:03.720 this is writer strong and i have a new podcast called the red weather it was many and many a

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00:28:39.100 Hello, it's me, Anna Sinfield, from The Girlfriends,

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00:29:39.900 I just wrote down my dream, and all I'll say is

00:29:46.580 I walked into a country club kind of space.

00:29:49.600 I just strolled in, and there was this sort of Alzheimer's-stricken,

00:29:53.980 man old man who was like the guy who started the place and he started giving me a tour there was a

00:29:59.640 pool there was a lap lane and then all of a sudden reveals this view of the ocean and we were nowhere

00:30:05.520 near it and so i said whoa and then people started freaking out because there was fire in the water

00:30:11.220 oh there's fire in the water you could see it i mean is that not is that not wild and then a huge

00:30:18.200 wave came it flew over women in sun chairs but they were still seated in them after it flew over

00:30:23.560 them and they said we felt nothing that's great and then a couple of teen girls uh whatever they

00:30:30.900 they gave me some slippers okay and i was actually waiting to ask they gave me some slippers i was

00:30:35.340 straining my eyes i didn't want to be too excited about straining my eyes because i thought i saw

00:30:38.840 the word prada inside of the slippers then i got scared that they were giving them to me to trick

00:30:43.740 me so that on the way out of the country club someone would accuse me of stealing anyways oh

00:30:47.800 my god do you wash your pillows do you wash your pillows themselves okay i can't go i can't go

00:30:54.700 there i'm getting it i'm realizing my bed my bed is a coffin of hell i'm just like oh no no i mean

00:31:03.640 now i'm sleeping on metal i'm sleeping on metal yeah not even metal copper copper okay because

00:31:08.680 copper like bacteria that can't live on copper or something or a virus can't live on copper

00:31:12.600 oh no I mean you have to you also have to you just I just can't you have to let go of that

00:31:17.400 but then but I'm worried I'm only worried about it in the sense of my skin and rolling I mean I

00:31:22.100 do not want to be that feels like it really needs to be clean oh yeah oh yeah honey I want to talk

00:31:27.440 about this are you ready the other day I decided to make a sugar-free cheesecake you know which is

00:31:32.360 what led to me reading that it still stimulates and even the monk you do use monk fruit no I use

00:31:37.960 allulose. I'm always pushing monk fruit on you. Yeah. Okay. Always. I see your face when I hear

00:31:43.220 monk fruit. Oh yeah. Cream cheese. I grabbed a clover, whatever, you know, it seemed whatever

00:31:51.120 good. And it was two clovers and one Philly. I won't lie. And whatever, butter, sweetener,

00:31:57.180 lemon juice and sour cream. You had to whip the sour cream. And I just whipped and whipped and

00:32:01.000 whipped with an electric thing never it never took huh never became dense yeah well fluffy

00:32:09.120 fluffy never fluffed up and never did the peaks and i was like maybe that's a peak i was like

00:32:14.020 that's almost a peak when i held up my thing yeah i was like well in it goes and yeah it was dense 0.51

00:32:19.160 as fuck it was more like an icebox cake you throw it in the freezer so there's no bake this is the 0.76

00:32:23.120 no bake one oh the no bake okay because i was like i cannot you know do the whole baking i am not 0.99

00:32:28.120 jiggling a thing inside of the oven to see if it pulled away from the sides of the pan they always

00:32:35.900 promise that till it pulls away and they're like it should be a slight jiggle like this is like

00:32:41.460 that's what's so stressful about recipes these these subjective moments yeah totally not too

00:32:47.300 blah blah but it was like yeah so i had this moment and i thought of you where there was this

00:32:56.080 almond flour crust okay that they recommended making and putting on the bottom very simple

00:33:00.880 almond flour butter sweetener whatever and nuts but i don't include those and i know that there's

00:33:07.280 almond flour in my cabinet but it's behind about six wine glasses okay a couple bottles of wine

00:33:14.380 a thing of olive oil and i decide against making the crust yeah i just i decided that a cheesecake

00:33:23.460 that I'm in theory going to be eating nightly for a week.

00:33:26.200 It's not worth getting.

00:33:27.280 Will not have a crust.

00:33:28.400 Because you don't want to get back there.

00:33:29.620 Because I don't want to have the feel.

00:33:31.280 I don't want to hear the sound of delicate wine glasses clanging

00:33:34.500 as I take them out and set them aside.

00:33:38.240 I had this realization the other day.

00:33:41.540 Washing dishes.

00:33:42.660 Here's the worst part of washing dishes.

00:33:44.280 How loud it is.

00:33:45.980 Complete agreement.

00:33:48.520 Okay, it's the clanging of delicate items.

00:33:50.840 The violence.

00:33:52.240 I'm like, I could handle this if it weren't crashing.

00:33:56.340 How could it happen?

00:33:57.660 Like the pan, best case scenario.

00:33:59.960 Well, the risk also.

00:34:00.960 Best case scenario.

00:34:02.420 You've got, let's just say you have two bowls.

00:34:04.740 They're still touching and making sounds.

00:34:06.860 It's so loud.

00:34:07.700 The whole operation is so loud.

00:34:09.420 And the sounds are the sounds of something almost breaking at all times.

00:34:12.560 Click, click, click.

00:34:13.180 Oh, and also metal falling into a bowl, falling into a plate.

00:34:16.520 Oh my God.

00:34:17.500 And then stacking it.

00:34:19.140 Let's just say, okay, you've washed them.

00:34:20.580 And then you stack them.

00:34:21.520 and then there's a micro movement and they come crashing down i mean not but you know even the

00:34:26.220 slight the way the dishes settle on a drying rack is so precarious terrifying i guess minor i guess

00:34:32.320 i'm setting it really precariously like people have their little systems well yeah i mean maybe

00:34:36.900 i just pile it too high well you know you know what i'm big on is um like let's say there's a

00:34:41.860 big sink full of dishes you know post cooking have you ever tried to clean clean up while you cook

00:34:47.140 so like you're taking a greenie down you use it you throw it back in where it belongs

00:34:50.780 of course i've tried jacqueline it's it's wild i've tried it almost works sometimes and

00:34:57.300 um it can be kind of ecstatic it can feel oh yeah no when you really are when you're doing that you

00:35:02.620 go use a dish clean a dish use a dish clean a dish i mean it's well it's the thing that you

00:35:07.460 know one of those like productivity tips or whatever it's like yeah if it takes under a

00:35:11.200 minute just do it like if there's ever anything that's going to take yeah did i tell you that

00:35:15.120 Well, cause GTD is if it's under two minutes, just do it. Sorry. Getting things done. David

00:35:19.780 Allen's seminal work. Under two. Yeah. That makes sense. Cause I'll, cause you and I will

00:35:27.760 drop something and go, I'll pick it up later. Yeah. And you know, but I think everything's

00:35:32.060 going to be under two literally. And I've been struggling with that all week. And by

00:35:35.780 the way, you know, I was talking the other week about like how I like there's the rubber

00:35:39.180 bands on the floor. Yeah. You know how people are messy, whatever clutter. And they're like,

00:35:43.060 but i know where everything is like literally i was leaving for a show show at largo march 0.97

00:35:47.760 may 23rd oh wait fuck what are we in yeah um and i'm may 21st you could do a double imagine go 0.63

00:35:56.140 double header then the next night get dinner with a friend then the third night come see mine that's 0.98

00:36:01.480 a three-day experience you know what we should do we should have you and me should have dinner

00:36:06.220 at a restaurant the night between the two shows well don't go tempting me with all i could ever

00:36:11.000 want i mean as a i meant as a promotional thing then everyone goes to the restaurant celebrates

00:36:15.920 you and looks forward to me oh so i see so i'm like can't find my rubber bands can never seem

00:36:24.000 to they're just never wherever they're you know and i'm like i gotta go and i need a rubber band

00:36:29.680 for my show and in my head i'm like there's a green one on the floor near my chair in the living

00:36:34.160 room and like i like ran to get it it's like it's like chris what are you doing i'm like i'm going

00:36:38.520 to get a rubber band and i a hairband and i knew it was there and i felt kind of like hey it works

00:36:45.540 and it was on the floor yeah in that specific spot i was like eventually i want to do a deep

00:36:51.000 dive into mitochondria well i did get i got mito pure i paid through the nose the hell is that i

00:36:57.740 was deeply convinced by whatever i saw on instagram it's some like cranberry powder

00:37:01.880 based which i know instantly sounds like nothing um oh god you know what happened to me what in

00:37:07.560 like a technically like business setting yeah professional setting where i'm trying to prove

00:37:12.260 myself you know how you're always like mitochondria like gets me hard or whatever yeah yeah you say

00:37:18.640 that right well it slipped in as language of friends do it flew out of me like in a meeting

00:37:24.160 and but here's no no that's not what happened it's worse it's worse it started to fly out of me

00:37:29.600 right i panicked felt it coming but had already begun the sentence i was like yeah that sounds

00:37:34.720 good is the end of a call yeah that sounds good yeah you know yeah that makes me or no I was like

00:37:39.900 yeah that's and I was like sexy humiliating oh I'm honored and then I tried to immediately explain

00:37:50.260 I mean I tried to immediately explain it's a brilliant did this I have an update which is

00:37:54.680 that last week I was talking about mother wolf the restaurant and my it's okay okay did you bring

00:38:00.780 bottle. Remember I was able to obtain the private cell phone number of the manager who gave it to

00:38:07.920 me. Anyway, the point is I got the reservation. I'm thrilled. I'm going, I'm sitting at the table

00:38:13.200 with my friend. I see the manager who I, who I texted for the reservation floating by. Are you

00:38:18.840 going to give the true or do you create a substitute name? I think it's fine. All right.

00:38:24.180 and so I see him I go okay I have to make contact I'm kind of I almost like he like looks at me but

00:38:31.380 doesn't look at me it was alarming and then he's nagging you yeah yeah you know the way only a

00:38:36.600 manager of a restaurant can so I'm convinced his name is Greg and I check my phone before I look

00:38:44.720 because I had it my phone and I go okay his name's Greg he goes flying by I go Greg he stops he comes

00:38:52.860 over and he goes it's gary oh all the work jacqueline well you texted me this sending

00:38:59.440 drafts drafting texts to send him to ask for the table reservation thinking okay here's what's

00:39:05.280 gonna happen i mean hello i almost brought a bottle of amaro to him which would have been

00:39:09.020 humiliating he would have probably spit in my face because he would have said greg a bottle

00:39:13.540 of amaro he goes he goes it's gary i go oh my god oh my god we're just talking about someone

00:39:18.940 name greg and so i don't like overly yeah i went we were just like great and then i looked and i

00:39:24.340 go you don't want to be that guy i go you do not want to be the greg i was just talking about i do

00:39:28.340 a full no lie no no like you were just like let you keep talking because you're waiting for your

00:39:33.460 heart rate to go down so you just keep telling a story you're like i need to keep talking because

00:39:37.500 i like i my face is plastered and it's you don't want to be oh jesus you're no you're lucky you're 0.99

00:39:41.260 not greg you're not you're lucky you're not well you know what is one of the biggest bullshit 0.96

00:39:48.040 things believe me yeah so like classic would be like me arriving late you know with with with a 0.96

00:39:54.760 huge dunkin donuts coffee to class right and like whatever in 12th grade okay and i roll in and it's

00:40:01.600 like it's like you do not know why you do believe me you do not want to hear why i'm like this is

00:40:08.680 trust me trust me you just want to leave this one be

00:40:12.220 and it's like anytime you're like yeah no i wasn't talking about i swear you know i was yeah i wasn't

00:40:19.120 talking about you i'm not gonna tell you what i was talking about it's like it's like such a

00:40:24.980 technique because if you had it you'd tell or another one is i'm not even gonna bore you with

00:40:31.940 what happened but let's just say i had a morning let's just say wow okay listen listen i'm not even

00:40:41.660 good where was I where oh my god oh my god okay this is mine I texted you about this

00:40:45.380 where I was in I was running to a friend's really nice birthday dinner okay the dinner was at eight

00:40:52.000 o'clock I did the thing where I found myself somehow and unable to pick an outfit you know

00:40:58.020 right and then I throw on something I go you have to leave now you have to leave now I decided to

00:41:03.320 do the responsible thing and lift because I'm terrified of driving even after one and a half

00:41:07.020 drinks you know i just yeah it's zero so i get the the lifts coming i i i had a small amount of a

00:41:14.240 rose los angeles delicious edible wow and i get in the car and then i'm like stoned but like in

00:41:21.080 a really kind of nice gentle way but i'm feeling like my hair is partially wet the the wind is

00:41:25.640 is in my hair my lift driver is like a you know i don't know 26 year old white guy with like kind

00:41:32.740 of like I don't even know how to describe it just like woven jewelry like I don't know he's

00:41:37.400 and chanting music blasting in the lift like but it's kind of gorgeous wow they really they really

00:41:42.760 like to I know but they really like to be like step into my world concept yeah yeah I do find

00:41:47.340 that a little interesting and I run up to the car and I have like a birthday present in my hand

00:41:54.220 and I'm like sorry sorry let me just make sure I have my phone I'm so frantic so I was I was

00:41:58.800 getting the lift where i was supposed to be like the dinner was at eight i was going to arrive at

00:42:02.660 seven like 59 like exactly okay so i was like i'm gonna be okay dinner i hate being late i hate being

00:42:07.460 late yeah so we're in there the chanting i'm kind of stressed out a little bit i'm like he's really

00:42:13.640 going fast and he's his car is like a tin can okay so i'm like rattling i'm just like just i have to

00:42:19.000 this is the surrender i mean this is what lift is you have to surrender to someone to a stranger's

00:42:22.540 madness it's like completely crazy yeah i also i hate i mean i like to drive and i like to drive

00:42:27.000 myself because i'm just like who is this person it's absolutely terrifying anyway he's weaving

00:42:32.260 wildly the chanting music loud the wind blasting in my hair i'm cross you know triangulating my

00:42:37.660 location ecstatic you're triangulating your location it's it's and then all of a sudden it

00:42:41.880 goes 805 805 triangulate might not be the right word but i'm now i'm like okay i'm five minutes

00:42:46.500 late oh i see what you're saying so you know i text my friend i'm like i'm gonna be five minutes

00:42:49.860 like on purpose you know i'm like oh god oh god i we're zooming we're zooming i can't describe

00:42:56.980 this but i'm looking i instantly thought you meant a zoom call but anyway go on oh yeah i'm

00:43:01.920 i can't i have to describe this so we're zooming down the street moving quite quickly

00:43:06.660 i passively i'm glancing out the window somehow i managed to lock eyes with a man who's on the

00:43:14.860 street like like it was kind of an unimaginable how could it happen because it's like he happened

00:43:20.480 to look up at the moment that i happened to it's amazing we lock eyes jacqueline he does this

00:43:25.840 crazy gesture kind of a point at me kind of a this like very deliberate point gesture which

00:43:34.000 i immediately interpret as like he's placed like a hex on me a poog fan no no i saw it as a spell

00:43:40.200 it was like the way he did it i can't describe you have to understand there's like milliseconds

00:43:44.240 passing it was like yes driving driving looking at somehow we lock eyes instantly crazy does this

00:43:49.740 hand motion and i go and that was the moment my life took this turn right i mean i was and again

00:43:55.460 i was like a little bit stoned i was like well that's the moment that it all changed like i was

00:43:59.800 like it felt so changed for the negative well i interpreted negative unfortunately i started and

00:44:04.520 then i was like oh god i felt like a hex yeah hex yeah it's like i was fine although if you're

00:44:09.060 zooming down the street i must say i don't think you've done anything to this person to

00:44:13.760 inspire a hex no no no it just it felt so the way that we locked eyes it felt so crazy and i just

00:44:21.840 want to say that i overdid it so we finally we arrived there it's 804 so i'm really fine oh

00:44:27.860 oh okay right right right i won't bore you with the fact that i was hexed yeah yeah but but i'm

00:44:35.460 getting out of the car i don't need to do this i go cool music i i i i go and i go oh god god i go

00:44:43.180 i really needed it no no i go it's worse it's worse i go i was really i was really uh what's

00:44:49.340 the word i used i was really high strong i really needed it now why did you need to perform that for

00:44:55.420 that man why why am i doing that i know why am i doing that like what did because i don't see you

00:45:00.460 as that so i'm wondering psychologically it was unusual it was like i don't know what you're not 0.99

00:45:07.100 some pacifier of you know of men no men at all time like like god where did where did that shit 0.87

00:45:13.920 fly out of me recently i'm trying to think where god it's it's easy it's like i feel again like 0.68

00:45:18.780 it's buying time like even a few seconds like you're in a state of panic that someone has

00:45:23.680 spoken to you or something did he say a single word on your way so he was very quiet in a way

00:45:28.020 that i almost five stars would be great thanks yeah you get that sometimes no oh it's the thing

00:45:33.520 it's like they say i i've heard that it's nice to go five i'm gonna give you five stars when you

00:45:40.480 leave yeah like a lift i think i'm gonna give you is a little too a little rude about you i think

00:45:46.040 it's you go five star ride like just to give them the piece that you're gonna do you know what i

00:45:50.620 mean well i once got into a thing i told you about this where the guy was falling asleep i know i've

00:45:55.240 talked about this on poop i had to because it was a huge moment yes no i yes i think it's worth

00:45:59.060 revisiting yeah you had the courage hi i was like are you falling asleep because by the way and i

00:46:04.480 then i made it i was like i understand like you're if you're really tired i get it just have to like

00:46:09.400 i was like that's totally okay but like you have to tell me and like you can't you know i have to

00:46:13.960 get out if you're if you're that tired and then he got no i got it man yeah yeah he got defensive

00:46:20.260 and kind of and by the way i didn't say there was one time i was like is he are his eyes closed

00:46:25.400 and i was like maybe he's looking at his phone i don't know but then it happened where the light

00:46:29.040 changed and he didn't see it and i was like counting seconds i was like one two and then

00:46:32.140 finally a car honked behind us and that's what like his eyes open and we went i was like kate 0.98

00:46:35.720 i was like this is the moment like it's your fucking life in this person's hand i didn't get 0.83

00:46:39.680 out so i so i called him out at the next light i go hi if you fall asleep and he's like no we get 0.98

00:46:45.140 we kind of get into it i'm like i mean i just saw you oh my god and i'm like you have to okay

00:46:50.800 here's what's crazier I go I oh my god this is so wild I go I just lost someone to a car accident

00:46:58.240 so you have to tell me have this you have this willingness you know you always go there right

00:47:06.260 you go weren't you gonna say in the line when the people weren't wearing the COVID masks with me

00:47:10.700 you're gonna say we both have cancer or something I'm always intrigued and that's a hex you mean

00:47:15.560 like by saying it you will it or something is that you're gonna say no no i just okay okay i just um

00:47:22.740 well yeah sure i guess but because i can't think like that because i thought i thought like that

00:47:28.060 for so long yeah if i said well right it's it's if illness becomes power if illness becomes power

00:47:33.280 right like if it's the only way you feel agency to get out of a sleeping car you know sleeping

00:47:38.240 man's car right is is if someone has died in your life then arguably you require you know just on a

00:47:45.300 deep level right those things happen so i'm always i mean to me it's the same thing as the like and

00:47:50.080 he murdered her on mother's day it's like the uh the crime is the same yeah like no i know you don't

00:47:59.320 need someone who died but but yet we feel i mean it's i thought that was a thing that's gonna make 0.98

00:48:03.840 him go oh you know i mean it's it's ridiculous he's not an asshole it's gonna it's gonna like 1.00

00:48:09.820 the idea i think it's like you think it's gonna neutralize his feelings that you're like a bitch 0.99

00:48:13.560 who would prefer a driver that wasn't sleeping yeah it's like oh she's grieving yeah i struggle 0.95

00:48:18.540 with it anyway i just want to say that i brought that i brought it up and then he got and then he

00:48:22.960 was like and then he goes like he starts talking about the stars and he's like are you gonna give

00:48:28.140 me like less stars oh my god how about five stars if you pull over and let me out you might have

00:48:34.640 had to i mean barrel roll out you might know what's crazy i think i gave him five no i didn't 0.87

00:48:39.440 give him five stars but i didn't but it is like uncomfortable i'm like oh fuck i'm like here's 0.98

00:48:43.100 just like brutally over like worked person and i'm like two stars asshole you know but it's what 0.96

00:48:48.100 it's like you you know oh anyway i got there i got there it's just it's absolutely i mean i've 0.77

00:48:55.540 told this when i was on that tour bus and i i was just really freaked out by lying down in a bus

00:49:01.500 without a seat belt just really freaked me out that feeling and then i so i emerge i emerge and

00:49:06.620 i i and i it looks to me like we're weaving kind of like in and out of the lines of the

00:49:12.860 highway at night and i'm like okay maybe it's like sort of like when you have the road all to

00:49:17.260 yourself at 3 a.m it's sort of like you don't have to quite take those turns yeah quite as sharply

00:49:22.380 right you kind of like keep it straight keep it smooth but then i become convinced that he's sort

00:49:27.120 of dozing then i become convinced remember that he's masturbating up there and so then i start in 0.84

00:49:33.500 with you okay i started with him yeah yeah okay and i go i go you're like need some coffee making

00:49:41.000 something for myself no i have a real problem with slipping into like into accents and characters

00:49:47.440 to try to quote get out alive you know what i mean so it's like it's like it becomes like

00:49:53.940 i guess that's my version i mean i guess the same thing right yeah it's like this is i mean the same

00:49:58.460 thing is like is like i just lost well just i'll just say you i just lost someone like to like i

00:50:03.600 just lost someone to lost someone too there's something very like i've done that i feel like

00:50:08.760 i've done that before too wait that's it yeah that's so fun too is language of like it's it's

00:50:14.500 like it's like cliched or or like acceptable language around death right oh i've also i've

00:50:20.760 i have found this sometimes in a lift of like i've had the experience where i get in the lift with

00:50:26.140 like with another woman and there's like a driver and you can tell he's like i'm gonna give these

00:50:31.240 girls the ride you know i just feel like they're like this is their big moment to be such big bad

00:50:36.480 boys on the road look at me go look at me go girlies and i and one time there was a guy fully

00:50:42.060 doing that he like cranked the radio i was like yeah can you slow down and i did it because i was

00:50:49.720 it pissed me off because it was such it was like a full peacock attempt no it's disgusting like i'm

00:50:55.340 in the back and i go oh my god oh like like i'm gonna be like stop driving so fast i'm gonna start 1.00

00:51:00.480 jerking off wildly in the back seat you're bouncing around on your own genitals giggling 0.97

00:51:05.040 he's gonna fly over the speed button you're gonna bounce down like and sort of like 0.87

00:51:11.120 and like oh my god like like are you a race car driving sir like this is just the start to the

00:51:20.380 night you know what oh we're going out as you know based on our destination

00:51:24.020 no it's disgusting and also well you know what you know my cousin my cousin jack tells this

00:51:32.700 story about the discomfort of speaking up yeah and i feel like i've probably told this on food

00:51:37.820 but the absolute discomfort of speaking up this was like he might have even been like in high

00:51:42.380 school or something i don't know but someone was driving and he's in the back seat and he feels

00:51:45.820 like his life's at risk okay but and um and so what flies out of his mouth

00:51:50.680 and this is like the thing where you sort of don't use your own language somehow

00:51:54.560 The flu out of his mouth is, yo, could you slow down, dog?

00:52:03.820 You know what I mean?

00:52:04.900 Like you've never said dog in your life.

00:52:07.020 Yeah.

00:52:08.040 Oh, God.

00:52:08.980 No, you know what happened to me in New York City like 15 years ago?

00:52:11.860 It was like walking down the street.

00:52:14.860 I panic when some guy tries to sell me weed, okay?

00:52:18.180 Yeah.

00:52:18.980 I'm like, could that have been New York?

00:52:20.060 But it was definitely a city.

00:52:21.240 And I go something like, oh, no.

00:52:24.560 it doesn't make sense i was gonna say i was like maybe it was that he asked me if i had some

00:52:28.760 yeah and um i was like i wish man

00:52:33.060 i was like sorry i wish and then tap dance away and then i and then i spend i spend two more blocks

00:52:41.040 walking trying to walk as if i'm somewhat like walking away that someone who wishes they had

00:52:45.300 weed might walk then turn a corner and decide like the show's over oh my god well interactions

00:52:54.440 with neighbors is is a real trigger to character action also do you have the thing where i have a

00:53:01.420 neighbor who's like half a block down from me we always say hi you know how you doing oh it's a hot

00:53:06.460 it's a hot one whatever yeah i've it's too much time has passed where i don't know his name

00:53:11.660 so to at this point go totally right because like the third friendly interaction you go

00:53:15.980 hey by the way i'm kate by the way i could still do that but it feels like so much time has passed

00:53:21.900 but now i know and yet though yet should i do it i think it's acceptable because

00:53:28.680 here's here's a way here's a way yeah you go you go i'm not sure i've told you my name

00:53:35.820 okay here's why yeah i'm auditioning it okay but by the way i'm kate okay okay here's what it is

00:53:42.420 you're putting the blame on yourself and you're not telling him that you don't know his name i

00:53:46.840 would do but for him to not reply with his own name at that moment would be no no he will evidence

00:53:52.120 of psychosis what i would do would just go i'm kate by the way no i think that was a beautiful

00:53:56.860 idea but i thought so you weren't hard you weren't pleased with it these these lessons that ostensibly

00:54:03.040 you learn in preschool kindergarten we're still learning them they don't they don't take actually

00:54:08.980 i don't recall being taught that frankly i don't recall being taught that by anyone i wasn't taught

00:54:13.740 that there should be a month on introductions there should be a month on how to walk into a

00:54:17.460 room and say hi there should be a month yeah a month each yeah yeah the curriculum is grossly

00:54:23.300 out of balance like there should be a month on introductions a month on the idea of an emotion

00:54:29.920 at all uh-huh uh-huh practicing store interactions why not there should be a little store you go

00:54:38.020 into there's absolutely absolutely there should be mock mock store the greatest thing in fourth

00:54:42.980 grade they had a stew they create it was like a unit and it went on for months and it was like

00:54:47.260 probably three days you know what I mean I remember it was months we created a colonial village inside

00:54:52.100 of our classroom uh-huh it was built with wood like separate stores okay well cute okay there

00:54:57.540 were cabinet makers bakers you know like um you know cobblers whatever yeah locksmith I was a

00:55:03.960 cabinet maker yeah or no no iron iron what are they called blacksmith oh is that what you just

00:55:08.960 said i said blacksmith yeah you said locksmith okay yeah no all right i was a cabinet maker okay

00:55:16.440 and we made these like we worked with wood we saw you know and then we would do trades with the

00:55:21.560 other get a baked good from it was it was ecstasy yeah um that's so fun god

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00:57:02.980 hello it's me anna sinfield from the girlfriends the number one hit true crime show that puts

00:57:10.900 women right in the center of their own stories i'm back with more one-off interviews with some

00:57:17.280 truly kick-ass women on the girlfriends spotlight i want to introduce you to sylvia i'm going to 1.00

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00:57:28.520 Let's see how we can stop killing and save lives.

00:57:32.620 Leila dared to ask the question.

00:57:35.120 Is badness hereditary?

00:57:37.140 And finally, we'll meet Rosamund.

00:57:39.260 If it wasn't for the year where Ella lived,

00:57:42.080 she wouldn't have died on that fatal night.

00:57:45.020 You'll even get to meet my mum in that one,

00:57:46.720 who I can always count on to keep my feet on the ground.

00:57:49.780 I'm not too intimidated by her.

00:57:51.180 What are you talking about?

00:57:52.160 listen to the girlfriend spotlight on the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your

00:57:59.900 podcasts okay i installed my burrow shelves you can see them in the back and it is another thing

00:58:12.160 like the wine glass okay my burrow index shelves are you know really exciting frankly they're

00:58:16.960 beautiful you sent me a picture yeah it was a gift to be clear and i was afraid and they're

00:58:21.820 they're they're sturdy they're heavy okay and i was doing things that were so dangerous

00:58:27.800 so like the way i set out to do a project is not i do not prepare in that way of lay out all your

00:58:34.860 ingredients lay out all your tools i find the one tool i need i get up on the ladder whatever

00:58:39.420 well chair first i never go i never get a ladder until i'm absolutely sure it's necessary okay

00:58:43.980 yeah okay so i'm standing on the two arms of a chair i overly step ladder actually i have a

00:58:48.660 technique really yeah that's fabulous my fear of fall falling yeah well i do my big one is like

00:58:57.080 because sometimes you know i don't have faith that it is crazy that we can't just pop up in the air

00:59:01.620 like just the fact that like it really is like three feet hover the laws of gravity have never

00:59:06.020 been more apparent than when you're ascending a ladder it's like i just have to reach that

00:59:11.040 cabinet i can't just do a little do you dream about either flying or floating or anything of

00:59:16.320 that nature um flying rarely but sure i have a lot of dreams where i go where it's sort of about

00:59:23.700 willing myself upward floating and i'll go like oh right this is that thing i can do and i go

00:59:29.340 and i will myself i'm like and i like i go up and it's sort of like and if i lose the sort of

00:59:36.080 confidence i start to sort of float down and i go now i got this and i can bring myself back up

00:59:40.100 whoa yeah so i'm doing one tool at a time the the drill thing i'm using is completely entwined in

00:59:46.600 the ladder and yet i'm oh no oh this is this is the ultimate example you ready i get my little

00:59:51.520 black and decker little drill right or a screw right yeah and it's not charged okay and i will

00:59:59.240 not charge and wait i've decided to do this so instead what i do is i plug it in and every time

01:00:05.180 I plug it in for you get a little crank 15 seconds I get yeah I proceeded to install an

01:00:13.620 entire shelving unit with a three second at a time okay oh my god so I'll get it in and then

01:00:24.680 I'd go get the hand screwdriver and do the rest okay I did things like the following there was

01:00:31.480 a moment where i balanced lifting it up in the air and not wanting to like call for help or

01:00:35.680 whatever where i balanced the shelf i'm holding it with two hands and then i i balance it on my chin

01:00:42.500 not not only on my chin that was it was like a tripod situation but i am i am fully using my

01:00:49.760 chin as one of the three and i go up a ladder like that the risks i take oh my god and you

01:00:57.100 installed it and it looks great i mean i know and it there were a couple moments where this 0.67

01:01:01.160 happens every fucking time with my like mechanical work where well there's two things there's this 0.70

01:01:07.020 principle that i experienced this happened yesterday i was hanging like um these leather 0.98

01:01:10.660 blinds it was like i'll go okay this isn't the right way to do this so you know i'm tying something

01:01:15.280 together with a wire right okay with a cheap wire and i go this is the right way to do this so i

01:01:19.200 gotta really tie it tight yeah okay because i'm like this is like not safe so i gotta do it that

01:01:23.860 way and then you know a couple minutes later 10 minutes later whatever I realized it's totally

01:01:29.100 the wrong way to do it and then there I am undoing my wire and experiencing the hell

01:01:33.600 of the strength I created do you see what I'm saying so building things is this series of me

01:01:39.280 trying to make something really strong and then having to undo the work oh and then and then

01:01:43.760 you're trapped yeah I'm trapped on my own competence like how how tightly I wound it yeah 1.00

01:01:50.400 Fuck. 1.00

01:01:50.900 I don't know. 1.00

01:01:51.340 It just keeps coming up for me as a dynamic.

01:01:54.200 God, I'm a bore.

01:01:55.080 God, I'm a bore.

01:01:55.760 It's interesting.

01:01:56.500 No, no.

01:01:57.520 How dare you?

01:01:58.000 Now I'm doing what you always do to me, which I'm like, that's really profound.

01:02:01.120 Yeah, it's a feeling.

01:02:02.440 Oh, oh, oh.

01:02:03.300 I was on like Sephora or something and I was looking for this Tarte product because I saw

01:02:08.840 in Skin School that it had a similar makeup to P50 or whatever, 1970.

01:02:14.180 And so I'm on, I'm going, let's check out the Tarte product.

01:02:16.960 i go in and i'm scrolling through the reviews i'm and i search like i kind of like my eyes are

01:02:21.580 skimming for the word holy grail yeah you know like they call it that like on sephora forums

01:02:26.900 they're like hd really good thing oh oh i don't know that oh i don't know like this is an hd for 0.88

01:02:32.320 me this is a holy grail product for me yeah they're like damn it's very appealing yeah yeah 0.90

01:02:37.200 so i'm like okay i'm scrolling for that and i see people going like like it smells disgusting 0.99

01:02:42.540 okay and i literally thought in my head loser okay yeah totally totally you loser what do you 0.99

01:02:48.740 need cucumber mojito you're here for you're here for a mojito on your face it's called 0.99

01:02:54.720 efficacious ingredients by the way if it smells good run run unless it's you know i guess essential

01:03:01.020 oil if it smells bad guess what they wouldn't put it in there unless it worked well exactly

01:03:06.560 that's the biology if i were selling a product if i were selling crap if i were selling just

01:03:09.820 just something that didn't work i'd throw in like the scent of vinegar and like so true you know

01:03:16.800 what i mean yeah just to give it that medical tinge like those like those salami smelling

01:03:22.360 ferulic acids i'm talking about they smell like meat it's whoa whoa i i have something that i

01:03:29.920 want to ask the poo community which is a mascara that's not going to drop down and do you know i 0.60

01:03:34.920 mean like the mascara that i found that will not the mascara that doesn't um flake off or stain

01:03:41.520 under the eye i have i have i have mascara visible i don't know if you can see from two nights ago

01:03:46.000 and i've washed my face every time oh no i didn't the first night i didn't the first night yeah see

01:03:49.580 this is what i'm talking about so i have to say there was a dior mascara that the discontinued

01:03:54.060 that i loved show yeah it was like it was a dior show it was like one of them are you impressed i

01:03:57.980 knew yeah it's gone forever or something i really like the glossier mascara it's a great subtle

01:04:03.900 daytime but it's completely unbuildable you cannot build on it wait is that the same oh no

01:04:09.600 i'm thinking of who makes lash slick yeah that's glossier glossier because i used that the other

01:04:15.820 day it's unclear okay maybe we just call it gloss we've never known yeah i used it the other day and

01:04:22.300 i'm all about thick and goopy like mascara generally buildable like i don't even care if

01:04:27.360 looks like crusty like yeah but the other day in a pinch i threw on lash slick yeah for some

01:04:33.940 scenario and i was like this actually looks like i'm not wearing it and i'm getting away with

01:04:37.760 murder no i know because because i'm like they're darker it's a great daily mascara it's a great

01:04:44.000 and it does not flag off or stain under the eye right but it's very subtle and so i really want 0.67

01:04:49.580 i really want a mascara it's gonna just fucking do it because the last couple mascaras that i've 0.76

01:04:55.860 purchased or have been i'm sorry but kindly sent to us i'm like oh cool so two hours later i have 0.79

01:05:02.260 a black eye like i guess it happens with like the mascara i've really enjoyed for stage okay for the

01:05:08.140 last like two years which suggests i should probably get a new one is the milk kush really

01:05:13.620 thick i do mascara yeah okay it's like here's a question though i think that one i think that one

01:05:19.600 bled a little for me though but no i think i think it does but it looks amazing when you put it on

01:05:23.740 yes and so maybe we need to be tart same with ilia i'm sorry well what about you know who i

01:05:31.220 had a lot of success with for like years benefit oh i would go back in a heartbeat i would love to

01:05:37.040 i would love to benefit had like the one called like i can't like they're like sacks oh better

01:05:40.740 than sex it's like short and then like short yeah um they have a few and they're all pretty

01:05:46.180 actually i almost don't buy benefit because i can't decide between their three because they

01:05:49.940 all look so compelling there's one called like buxom or is that a different brand but but but

01:05:57.660 here's my question kate what's the formula and what's the brush here we go this is this is a

01:06:05.620 serious question here we go what's the spoolie i i panic when it's too when it almost just feels

01:06:15.620 like a plastic wand yeah i don't like that either i want some bend i want some brushes yeah yeah i

01:06:20.560 want like a like a toilet bowl cleaner i want density yes exactly i also want that in a brow

01:06:27.920 uh in a brow like pomade well you know it's really good news too i'm going to fully for a future

01:06:36.020 episode but it's finally time i'm gonna go to an eyebrow person well i haven't touched my brows in

01:06:40.680 years i want some shaping it's time in college i i basically yeah i don't touch mine either and

01:06:46.780 but in college i remember i i heard that there was this woman that was like the woman who

01:06:52.900 understood brows and that brows are the one thing that you know frames your face and if you get them

01:06:57.560 right you know you set for life and so i was like i'm growing i'm growing like everything out like 0.60

01:07:02.640 i am letting the fucking waxing that whatever was last like getting everything and letting it be 0.76

01:07:08.220 long enough that like some dormant hair is going to fly and I'm going to give her a full canvas 0.98

01:07:11.300 and I went in and she like she was like appalled no like she was like she was like she was not I

01:07:18.020 was like I know I grew them out like for you you know what I mean yeah yeah yeah it was devastating

01:07:22.760 but my big thing is you know this you know all this these things where they go you know where

01:07:26.580 you put a like a thing on your oh yeah yeah yeah sure in the corner of your nose and you go up

01:07:32.060 around the iris and then like that's where the where it should go yeah and I like tried this

01:07:37.240 because that's not where my peak is i tried this one day like basically like covered the entire brow

01:07:42.360 okay with like foundation yeah just to see what it would look like take away my brow yeah and try 0.95

01:07:47.480 the method and see what and what comes in and i was like fuck you looked gorge i was like something 0.93

01:07:54.620 was i was like this changes everything and i don't know how i'm gonna achieve it because i'm not in 0.97

01:07:59.300 the mood to have to plaster it no i have such like root trauma of my mom being like talking to you

01:08:05.400 eyebrows and being like yeah the art should be there or something not like a critical cruel way

01:08:09.100 but her just being like you should do this and it was like well I can't I know like I know the art

01:08:15.340 should be there well I've been like do I put a little peek on there do I put a little like can

01:08:19.460 I I think I have an eyebrow like but can I eyebrow makeup if it goes up here I remember the first

01:08:27.240 time like there was like a dance I was going to and I went to the makeup counter and they were

01:08:31.920 like your brow your brow is like number one if you can do nothing if you could put no makeup on

01:08:36.580 other than brow biggest effect oh well i agree brow brow and mascara yeah if you could only have

01:08:45.140 one for for the day day makeup i mean there you go i'm excited to go put on some brows actually

01:08:50.600 and talk about glossier glossier boy brow i mean forever and the brush is oh you know what i'm so

01:08:57.740 irritated by i just want to hit a few things yeah tired of just searching the things that i'm

01:09:03.480 interested in okay and and the articles are this you know i tried soap brow so you don't have to

01:09:10.560 okay i tried the higher dose sauna or whatever you know seven days yeah yeah for seven days

01:09:16.940 and then you click on through and i know i've bitched about these these endings of these

01:09:20.560 articles before because they're like they're like can you burn 600 calories uh by lying still

01:09:25.060 watching television inside of the sauna then they take us through i did this i did this here are the

01:09:28.980 claims which i've already read on the site of the actual product yeah and then they and they go they

01:09:33.040 go something like they go like did it actually burn the calories and did it uh hard to say

01:09:37.080 but i was pretty i i had a nice afternoon in the sauna it's this sort of hard to say yeah yeah it's

01:09:43.820 always that couldn't quite tell you and then and then they give you nothing and then um my other

01:09:49.680 recent sort of thing been annoying me in television and film and I'm curious if this is real like if

01:09:55.740 you do this okay people are constantly shutting laptops as the way of ending whatever they're

01:10:01.800 doing on a laptop oh my god so someone comes to the room laptop shuts yeah okay now one you see

01:10:08.640 this one that's something they want to hide yeah and I'm going welcome to the next time you open

01:10:12.760 your laptop and the and the porn's blasting at full volume yeah whatever yeah yeah so so whatever

01:10:18.340 it is you're just setting yourself up people are not closing now i don't close windows whatever

01:10:22.820 i leave my laptop open at all times to the point of devastation yeah i just don't feel safe with

01:10:27.880 a close i'm like there's things happening i've downloaded things there things are happening i

01:10:31.280 know what you mean yeah yeah and so i just like i find it the elves i find it yeah i see it i'm

01:10:36.860 it's always like you know the teenager on the bed or and the moment you close your laptop you're

01:10:41.480 gonna forget what's up there yeah so you're just setting yourself up totally i'm just yeah that's

01:10:45.200 and um also you're ready for this one i noticed movies where like the family has a new house

01:10:51.020 sometimes haunted whatever but they arrive you know they drive up they pull out they pull in

01:10:55.480 okay okay the parents get out of the car the kids get out of the car they go running into the house

01:11:01.260 ahead of their parents excitement yeah okay and who's unlocking the door yes and but but here's

01:11:07.480 here's even more well there's two things two pieces first they go running in i'm like if me

01:11:12.060 and my parents and we moved into the house moved into it like two so you know this wasn't a

01:11:16.740 question yeah but if my parents like we're like moving us and we moved into a house i would assume

01:11:21.840 that we hadn't seen it as the kids that's the implication in these movies okay okay my parents

01:11:27.300 get out of that get out of the car i am waiting for them to have because it's their right to 0.99

01:11:32.660 present it to us right they fucking bought it whatever right okay they fucking laid down the 0.98

01:11:38.000 10 percent yeah yeah i would wait for them to go again it's like the tearing through christmas 0.99

01:11:42.720 presents you know what i mean it's disgusting and then are you ready for this i call this room

01:11:47.140 yeah that's how it's getting decided yeah i know the idea that the parents wouldn't have discussed

01:11:52.560 well there's two rooms and one's over here of course of course it's a huge debate in advance

01:11:56.720 so all right let's wrap it up we have to go and i have to pee so badly so just wrap it up

01:12:01.620 i just want to say i've been seeing people waxing their nose hairs uh in this day and age

01:12:06.940 are you kidding we talked we texted about this with with with viruses you need your nose hairs

01:12:11.360 you need your nose hairs they're there for an it's an evolutionary gift the nose hairs that

01:12:16.560 keep out viruses that keep out particles that's what eyelashes are for all of it your eyes even

01:12:21.060 eyebrows i think are i do i do as well we evolved those to like keep your keep so keep your um and

01:12:25.620 i also intend to revisit mousse as a curl product everything else is too heavy jacqueline jacqueline

01:12:30.820 are you ready for this yes i used mousse last night for the first time in 92 and i was on my 0.99

01:12:37.860 knees yeah bumble and bumble it was like the curl bb curl mousse and i was like are you fucking 0.80

01:12:42.500 kidding me and my hair loved it folks it's whipped it's full of air it was it's whipped as hell i 0.60

01:12:48.860 loved it it's julia it's complete julia roberts and i want i would like to announce to the group

01:12:54.760 i think everyone remembers i of course purchased at full price and then returned the dyson hair

01:12:59.640 dryer i was not impressed and i did it i repurchased a new deva curl brand they did not

01:13:06.680 send me one despite my begging um hair dryer and i have to say something they've been too big for

01:13:11.140 too long they don't they don't feel they need you and i love it i love it way more than the

01:13:15.400 the dyson clocks in at close to 500 the the deva curl diva curl is 150 and infinitely better i was

01:13:24.880 like that's how you do it guys but i have to say my old like 10 plus year old hair dryer might still

01:13:31.800 be i think it's like it's what it's so powerful that i think it must be dangerous the 1800 because

01:13:38.560 the new one yeah the new one is like it worked with the job but i was like oh this isn't blasting

01:13:43.320 me the way my old one is google the yellow bird it's like an illegal hair dryer whatever it's

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