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00:02:35.440 Hi, I'm Kate Berlant.

00:02:36.880 I'm Jacqueline Novak.

00:02:38.000 And this is POOG,

00:02:39.160 an ongoing conversation about wellness

00:02:41.060 between two obsessive friends,

00:02:42.740 two untamable intellects.

00:02:44.520 This is our hobby. 0.95

00:02:45.360 This is our hell.

00:02:46.220 This is our naked desire for free products.

00:02:48.500 This is POOG.

00:02:49.920 Today's topic, loosely speaking,

00:02:51.380 lithium ion.

00:02:53.020 Brasserie.

00:02:54.320 Bedroom eye.

00:02:59.100 Good morning.

00:03:00.960 It's not morning boog.

00:03:02.440 Good afternoon.

00:03:04.320 It's international.

00:03:05.740 Not international.

00:03:07.100 It's...

00:03:07.580 What's it called when you're in the same nation?

00:03:09.720 Bicoastal.

00:03:10.740 Bicoastal.

00:03:10.820 Boog.

00:03:11.380 The opposite of national.

00:03:12.200 Because I'm in New York and you're in LA.

00:03:13.980 Interstate.

00:03:15.720 Transnational?

00:03:16.820 Oh. 0.87

00:03:17.220 That's not it.

00:03:18.140 Yeah.

00:03:18.620 Is it?

00:03:18.940 No, I think that is.

00:03:19.980 the transnational flight to transverse the nation well in a shocking trend of events i'm not at the

00:03:27.100 ludlow i'm at the bowery which i believe we discussed briefly yeah i was terrified being

00:03:33.300 put up that you've gotten some kind of deal want to be clear being put up it's electric over here

00:03:39.860 folks really i mean it's it's a beautiful hotel yeah you know i love the lobby i love to loiter

00:03:45.480 in the lobby of the Bowery.

00:03:47.080 I see the stars

00:03:47.980 and you know,

00:03:49.340 the sex appeal.

00:03:50.920 Those who know,

00:03:51.960 know I had an explosive week

00:03:53.700 at the Ludlow.

00:03:54.520 Yeah.

00:03:55.480 Same owners.

00:03:56.260 Same owners.

00:03:56.800 I want to be clear.

00:03:57.380 So same group.

00:03:58.420 So we're not.

00:03:59.460 Oh yeah.

00:03:59.960 The Ludlow is owned 0.99

00:04:01.580 by the Bowery people. 0.97

00:04:03.040 Okay.

00:04:03.520 This is huge.

00:04:04.780 Yeah.

00:04:05.300 This is earth shattering.

00:04:06.500 Okay.

00:04:06.660 Now I can expand.

00:04:07.440 I thought you knew.

00:04:08.240 No,

00:04:08.440 this makes me feel a lot safer.

00:04:11.320 A couple of things

00:04:12.040 I want to say about the Ludlow.

00:04:13.200 Okay.

00:04:13.540 Did you get the burger?

00:04:14.420 Like four times.

00:04:15.080 The burger in the lobby, medium rare, it was great.

00:04:17.500 It was perfection.

00:04:18.660 Yeah.

00:04:20.060 So I put my parents up there for two nights.

00:04:22.340 Ooh.

00:04:23.020 Okay.

00:04:23.580 God, you're a sweet daughter.

00:04:25.420 That's unbelievable.

00:04:26.660 Well, it was for my recording.

00:04:28.140 I'm through.

00:04:28.740 The wedding has occurred.

00:04:29.840 Thank you.

00:04:30.240 Yes, the wedding.

00:04:30.520 Thank you.

00:04:31.160 Okay.

00:04:32.040 By the way, we're getting sconces.

00:04:33.700 Are you aware?

00:04:34.100 Oh, you told me.

00:04:35.020 You told me we're getting sconces.

00:04:36.680 They're coming.

00:04:37.540 Great.

00:04:38.040 Great.

00:04:38.360 Thank you.

00:04:38.780 Wow.

00:04:39.400 Thought you'd be more excited.

00:04:40.460 All right.

00:04:41.140 We'll talk about them when they arrive.

00:04:42.480 Then you will be. 1.00

00:04:43.160 You'll turn that shit on. 1.00

00:04:44.760 You probably haven't even looked. 1.00

00:04:45.460 I'll turn it on hard.

00:04:46.360 You haven't even visited the artisan site.

00:04:48.000 Wait, wait, wait.

00:04:48.520 So you went, you put your parents up at the Ludlow.

00:04:52.200 Yeah.

00:04:52.520 Wow. 0.98

00:04:52.640 And I'm like, holy shit, because I was like, you know, it's, I don't know what you're going 0.98

00:04:57.500 to think of it. 0.96

00:04:58.020 You know, you just don't know what other people's, whatever.

00:04:59.820 I was like, but you know that I stay there most of the time.

00:05:03.000 Kate stays there a lot.

00:05:03.900 My dad's like, I know I've heard, I've heard, you know, like whatever, like the burger.

00:05:07.160 Okay.

00:05:08.260 So anyway, stay there, whatever.

00:05:10.120 They said it was the best breakfast they've ever had in their lives.

00:05:12.900 Oh my God.

00:05:14.380 They said it was the best omelet.

00:05:16.500 No, they went down.

00:05:17.300 The omelet is really good.

00:05:18.240 The garden in the back.

00:05:18.980 The roasted peppers with the goat cheese.

00:05:20.740 Know it well.

00:05:21.340 Yeah.

00:05:21.600 Well, the ratatouille with the goat cheese.

00:05:23.700 The ratatouille, yeah.

00:05:24.760 Okay.

00:05:25.920 And, or ratatouille?

00:05:27.680 Yeah.

00:05:27.840 I don't know.

00:05:28.520 So, that was phenomenal.

00:05:29.880 And then, like, second night, there was no planning.

00:05:32.800 There was no reservations.

00:05:34.380 I wandered around trying to, and I was like, I think we're going to eat at the hotel again.

00:05:37.740 Yeah.

00:05:38.300 So, this time we went into the actual restaurant, Dirty French.

00:05:41.380 Wow.

00:05:41.840 That you can enter through the street.

00:05:43.300 Yeah.

00:05:43.420 And now it's like a different deal.

00:05:44.680 It's like cheating on your wife with your wife. 0.97

00:05:48.200 Oh, she's in a hat tonight.

00:05:50.040 Yeah.

00:05:53.020 But I go, okay, okay.

00:05:56.600 This is kind of interesting.

00:05:57.440 Let's sit in there.

00:05:58.100 Let's play a restaurant at the Ludlow, right?

00:06:00.760 We had an explosive meal.

00:06:03.020 Walk me through.

00:06:03.620 Are you serious, Jacqueline?

00:06:05.000 Yeah.

00:06:05.780 Okay.

00:06:06.280 Like I go back independently.

00:06:08.700 So the server was beyond.

00:06:11.460 I think she's been there like 20 years or something.

00:06:13.980 Has the hotel even been there 20 years?

00:06:16.000 I don't know.

00:06:16.580 I don't know.

00:06:17.100 But whatever. 1.00

00:06:19.020 She knew her shit. 1.00

00:06:20.320 And it's loud, okay? 1.00

00:06:21.480 So it's not a precious place.

00:06:23.340 It's a New York brasserie.

00:06:25.220 Exactly.

00:06:25.780 And she's sort of explaining food over it.

00:06:28.000 And she explained food in a way that, you know how they say the words, but nothing can actually click?

00:06:33.520 Yep.

00:06:34.420 And you're just taking these different ingredients.

00:06:36.260 And it's like, she almost described process of cooking a little bit, but not over the top.

00:06:41.700 You know when they do that too much where it's like useless?

00:06:44.420 They're like, so we turn the flame to a 30% height.

00:06:47.680 What we do is we turn it down so it gets that charge, but then we turn it right up at the last minute.

00:06:51.600 Yeah, yeah.

00:06:53.200 And it's like, she managed to somehow strike that place of, like she's like the cod or whatever.

00:06:59.760 She was like, it's served in a metal thing with a lid, like whatever.

00:07:03.300 She's like, and in there, the broth, whatever she's describing.

00:07:05.420 So anyway, we just had this explosive meal of fish.

00:07:09.020 There was a tuna tartare.

00:07:10.480 We had these oysters and just, it was incredible.

00:07:15.180 Okay.

00:07:15.940 But all to say, I received intel about the burger and I was like, I don't even know if

00:07:20.560 I can speak of it on Poog.

00:07:22.220 Is it wrong to share what was just given between a server and a patron?

00:07:27.640 Okay.

00:07:28.260 So, you know, the burger has come up in the conversation and oh, it comes with a Dijon,

00:07:33.020 you know, da, da, da.

00:07:33.640 Because I was like, I love the burger.

00:07:35.000 I'm probably not doing it tonight, but I love the burger.

00:07:37.240 And she's like, you know, fun fact about the burger or something.

00:07:40.980 She goes, it comes with Dijon, a Dijon sort of mustard, right?

00:07:45.260 However, French's yellow mustard is put on the pan

00:07:49.760 and the patty is seared on top of French's yellow mustard.

00:07:54.300 That's why it gets that seared, almost crispy,

00:07:57.940 flavorful thing happening on the patty.

00:07:59.660 Are you kidding?

00:08:00.540 That is huge news.

00:08:02.400 Who does that?

00:08:03.120 Who?

00:08:03.700 In-N-Out.

00:08:04.160 you can yeah in and out oh wow i think you have to request it but they do what do you call that

00:08:11.860 i don't know so it's a thing the whole the code word thing i just i don't like that culture but

00:08:16.400 yeah the code word at in and out it's like you know that's like you gotta know the term you're

00:08:21.060 like bad boy style with a side of you know it's just yeah yeah wow i when when a company presents

00:08:26.560 that kind of language i tend to get on board like it's still sort of like okay like two examples like

00:08:32.340 i get on board and never leave it behind and sometimes they move on to other branding yeah

00:08:36.200 so like two examples of me being like i'll get a nice coffee with a turbo shot at duncan what's

00:08:40.940 that turbo shot is like crank up the turb crank up the turbines on this caffeine they throw a

00:08:47.900 shot of espresso in your coffee it's still kind of like oh yeah then i saw i thought that was a

00:08:51.900 red eye it is but they just refer to it as a turbo shot okay i don't know okay and then not no not

00:08:58.400 the whole thing the shot itself like instead of just a shot of espresso turbo shot okay and then

00:09:03.100 it's it's subway restaurant i mean it's subway the restaurant yeah yeah the works so i get the

00:09:12.800 turkey whatever and i go give me the works the works is like i need all the toppings yeah totally

00:09:18.420 okay wait the bowery yeah when i got to my room the bowery there wasn't an in-room nespresso

00:09:25.560 which was devastating to me

00:09:27.320 but don't worry

00:09:28.360 I requested one

00:09:29.120 and they brought it up

00:09:29.880 Requested what?

00:09:31.300 The Nespresso

00:09:31.900 A machine?

00:09:32.460 An in-room Nespresso

00:09:33.740 A machine?

00:09:34.940 Yeah

00:09:35.160 You requested a machine?

00:09:37.280 So they have them

00:09:38.420 That doesn't normally come in the room?

00:09:39.800 So I came into the room

00:09:41.040 I've been in a friend's room

00:09:42.240 at the brewery

00:09:43.000 a while ago

00:09:43.780 in a fancier suite

00:09:45.140 And they had it

00:09:45.760 And there was one there

00:09:46.560 so I thought

00:09:46.980 oh they had them in every room

00:09:47.900 got to my room

00:09:48.680 which is the queen

00:09:50.220 the modest room

00:09:51.100 Yeah

00:09:51.320 It wasn't there

00:09:52.340 I went uh-oh

00:09:52.980 a small carafe of coffee in the morning is five dollars plus of course the service tax plus the

00:09:58.960 you know so you're looking at a ten dollar cup of coffee min min so i had the nespresso brought in

00:10:05.480 it's a great machine i think it's one of the newer models and i'm loving it and that's all

00:10:09.320 i was gonna say and i might pound you wait hold on i don't want to leave this behind because i

00:10:13.160 think this is very interesting and i think there might even be a off menu sneak here which is

00:10:18.180 if you like the amenities

00:10:20.020 of the suite

00:10:21.380 can you pull it off

00:10:23.120 where you book

00:10:24.040 the cheaper room

00:10:25.180 okay

00:10:26.080 but you know

00:10:26.740 they've got

00:10:27.360 some certain machine

00:10:28.460 in house

00:10:29.060 and then you just call up

00:10:30.900 hey

00:10:31.400 you can't do it

00:10:33.300 with a bathtub

00:10:33.860 there were no other

00:10:35.180 amenities that I saw

00:10:36.520 that were

00:10:37.020 machine oriented

00:10:38.500 that I could then request 0.99

00:10:39.560 for my shit room 0.99

00:10:40.280 I'm just saying in general 0.97

00:10:41.100 I think this is interesting

00:10:42.080 yeah of course

00:10:43.240 but this

00:10:44.000 I saw a picture

00:10:45.260 I saw a picture

00:10:46.340 of a woman

00:10:47.380 enjoying right can i get that in mind this room though and it really is what we can't undervalue

00:10:53.180 the view it's true i've got a really nice view over here it makes a big difference but the i

00:10:57.760 want to say something about the bowery which is they have something which i've is absolutely

00:11:01.380 exquisite which is this really thin red light above way above the bed it's kind of like a

00:11:08.020 nightlight it's like a sex light essentially loved red light in the bedroom i do and it's like really

00:11:13.320 subtle and it's really nice and the other night i fell asleep with it on and then woke up 4 a.m

00:11:18.280 strip light like a it's like a line yeah but it's so blurry it's really nice it creates a really

00:11:23.680 nice ambience you fell asleep with it on then you woke up at 4 a.m i woke up at 4 a.m with it

00:11:28.240 blasting and did you mind thought a ghost might have turned it on i actually had a slight feeling

00:11:33.160 i was scared to even verbalize this but the other night i kind of woke up all the night and i was

00:11:37.380 like someone's in here and i just kind of had that feeling of like someone's standing there

00:11:40.420 thoughts well is it an old building i bet it is oh yeah the battery yeah well you know my phone

00:11:46.180 was thrown thrown in the night and shattered inexplicably at the ludlow what do you mean

00:11:52.100 so you know my phone is shattered smashed yeah a few months so it falls off the bed you think

00:11:57.880 even there's a wood floor down there there's a carpet even carpet and then wood floor or a rug

00:12:03.320 and then wood floor it falls off the bed that's not a crack scenario no if it falls on concrete

00:12:09.600 right right okay and it's not even guaranteed that that it landed is your phone raw you have

00:12:15.620 a case i have a case i'm trying to think if it's possible it was raw but even if it was raw even

00:12:20.820 if it was raw because you're not dropping it from above your head and like it's not guaranteed that

00:12:25.780 it even landed on the wood floor because there's that that perfect yeah and it's smashed on both

00:12:31.000 sides as if someone hammered it once flipped it over and hammered it again okay so the only

00:12:37.460 explanation i looked around going okay how could this damage have been and i look i go okay maybe

00:12:43.100 a metal wall fixture like like something metal something hard the phone must have been thrown at

00:12:49.560 it bounced picked it hit the ground hit the ground okay and even then what did it hit then

00:12:55.600 something's amiss and i can't help but feel like and so yes late at night i google in bed

00:13:04.360 I've Googled this twice now, both times I was there, like Ludlow history, the Ludlow 0.97

00:13:08.640 Hotel building history, haunted, whatever, can't get, can't find shit. 0.94

00:13:13.500 You know, you got to go to the, I just want it so badly. 0.77

00:13:16.580 But this time there was a, there was an incredibly calm energy in my room.

00:13:20.060 I have to say the Ludlow this time.

00:13:21.900 It had a really peaceful vibe.

00:13:25.580 Good.

00:13:25.960 I don't know.

00:13:26.420 And I just sort of thanked the room.

00:13:28.500 I was like, thank you.

00:13:29.520 this room

00:13:30.700 even if there is

00:13:31.920 even if one night

00:13:32.680 someone was standing

00:13:33.380 it's been

00:13:34.180 it's a great room

00:13:35.220 do you have anything else to add?

00:13:37.900 Jesus

00:13:38.120 sorry I'm flatlining

00:13:39.720 I just had therapy

00:13:40.620 okay so we've got

00:13:42.440 a breaking news

00:13:43.020 I can push you into some things

00:13:44.260 yeah

00:13:44.780 yeah

00:13:45.180 breaking poog news

00:13:46.620 flax pudding

00:13:47.440 that I've been talking about

00:13:48.460 in a way

00:13:48.800 I've gotten many texts

00:13:49.980 from people

00:13:50.480 saying I'm addicted to this now

00:13:52.100 you can't be serious

00:13:53.300 by many I mean

00:13:54.180 one

00:13:54.840 okay

00:13:56.140 but I think others

00:13:57.120 well I will say

00:13:58.280 I am currently drinking

00:14:00.100 I did purchase the chocolate

00:14:02.040 vital proteins that you recommended yesterday

00:14:04.420 and I am drinking right now the smoothie

00:14:06.060 with the bone broth vanilla protein mixed with the

00:14:08.260 chocolate and some water

00:14:10.200 and ice yeah it's delicious

00:14:11.860 I'll say about the flax porridge

00:14:15.520 and cover your ears if you're faint

00:14:18.020 at heart but I had someone tell me

00:14:20.180 it could be extremely constipating

00:14:22.580 because flax you mix in the

00:14:24.240 flax meal but you need

00:14:26.300 to just add a lot more liquid because it

00:14:28.100 expands like psychotically right like the gel yeah exactly right so right all of those a little

00:14:34.820 warning there for the listeners word to the wise also i wanted to say to you do you reapply sunscreen

00:14:41.120 throughout the day are you actually reapplying because i have never reapplied in my life

00:14:47.480 well i know that you are experiencing this new panic because i sent you oh yeah that video an

00:14:55.320 instagram clip okay that showed you know like it showed under uv light or something like that

00:15:01.680 what it's a woman applying levels of spf are left two hours later and it just showed like there was

00:15:08.860 nothing we're screwed i mean which almost makes you think if it's like you and your friend and

00:15:14.660 you've been like me applying sunscreen since you know the age of 26 or whatever and your friend

00:15:20.700 has not it's like okay I've been getting two hours less sun than her right this whole time right each

00:15:27.660 day not why is it so hard to take that information in I mean until you see the visual I mean that

00:15:33.880 that these ideas like that I think it's like because here's I don't understand you're going

00:15:38.600 about your day doing that yeah exactly no one's doing that so you apply in the morning you leave

00:15:43.120 and then two hours by the way two hours is five minutes yeah two hours is nothing yeah two hours

00:15:49.920 later you go excuse me and conceivably if you're someone who wears makeup yeah so then you go

00:15:55.540 excuse me and then you reach into your bag you have to wash your hands you have to sanitize them

00:15:59.360 you squirt into your hand the product and then you just over whatever product you have on

00:16:06.340 you're in the middle of a in the middle of the day you're just lathering it on again

00:16:11.100 this is obscene well this is where the super goop product line comes into play the spray okay

00:16:18.580 The spray is the touch-up SPF.

00:16:20.740 And this is also...

00:16:21.420 Yeah.

00:16:24.100 I just hit my knee really hard on the Bowery desk.

00:16:28.260 Oh, God.

00:16:29.120 The Supergoop corporate needs to hear this.

00:16:31.320 They have a huge issue on their hands.

00:16:34.160 Yeah.

00:16:34.480 Which is that the Invisible Shield spray Supergoop...

00:16:37.520 Is toxic?

00:16:37.980 Which I like.

00:16:38.640 No.

00:16:39.440 It leaks.

00:16:40.520 And I've purchased this once.

00:16:43.000 Thought it was a bad bottle.

00:16:43.820 Purchased it again.

00:16:44.720 Still a leak.

00:16:45.640 They were kind enough to send us product.

00:16:47.500 and that's leaking.

00:16:49.720 So am I the only one brave enough

00:16:52.220 to stand up to corporate?

00:16:53.540 Which spray?

00:16:54.300 Is it a white plastic bottle?

00:16:56.100 Yeah, I believe it's called the resetting spray.

00:16:58.760 It's not aerosol.

00:16:59.940 I was hip to these resetting sprays

00:17:02.820 when there were only a few on the market.

00:17:04.520 There was one from years ago

00:17:06.820 because I questioned the same thing.

00:17:08.760 Well, if I'm going to reapply,

00:17:10.180 I don't even wear makeup,

00:17:11.180 but I don't like the idea of sort of...

00:17:13.760 Like even slathering it on

00:17:15.720 atop of other products like later in the day. Now it's mixing with the old products.

00:17:20.460 Because in my day, I don't wear foundation during the day. I wear a tinted, I wear my

00:17:24.780 Ilia Skin Serum, the SPF.

00:17:27.760 I really want to get that. Sounds lovely.

00:17:29.520 I think I just purchased my, I think I'm on my third bottle. 0.93

00:17:32.120 Oh, I think I got overwhelmed by the skin tone. 1.00

00:17:36.220 You're probably Formosa. That's what I am, doll. 0.99

00:17:39.180 Really?

00:17:39.800 Yeah.

00:17:40.180 I think I have more golden tones than you. They can never land on whether I'm pink or yellow.

00:17:45.720 coming through that's like the old mac makeup like c or n was what i was in like mac way back

00:17:53.160 in the day i never used the mac foundation wait i was gonna say it's just possible two days ago

00:17:58.280 a line appears on the face brand new is that how it happens just one day there's one there

00:18:02.300 i can't think it's a question of the moment that it becomes visible you can even see it

00:18:06.580 on the spectrum like it's been moving moving moving there's a point at which blue becomes

00:18:10.380 green on the spectrum right you see it perceptibly to you can't see anything you're barely

00:18:15.440 yeah well if you were in the room four pixels okay so where is it mid cheek what they call

00:18:20.320 i was thinking about you jack lynn never called you jack in my life i was thinking about you

00:18:26.200 because we you've talked about this on poop the school teacher who sat by the open window

00:18:30.740 and one side of her face is ravaged that was the one time a visual changed me okay so it got me on

00:18:35.640 spf i've been changed i've been changed because and i wear spf but this is on the left side of

00:18:40.640 my face which is i drive oh right driving window because i go look at the right one nothing's there

00:18:46.660 the left oh you've got an issue can you believe that yeah i couldn't remember and this is something

00:18:54.620 i can never remember because i had it wrong like twice and i went back and forth about whether or

00:18:59.100 not like i went through a period where i believe so early days setting spray and urban decay had

00:19:04.060 one and they these sprays they're they i mean they are obviously they are not mineral uh whatever

00:19:09.100 wear sunscreen they are like straight up yeah these recent days but anyway i was just covering

00:19:15.160 myself in the car because i had this idea that the windshield glass like like makes it worse

00:19:20.740 or something like i don't know so i have a friend who got spf window spf window installed in her car 0.99

00:19:26.020 damn can you fucking believe that shit oh wow yeah i think she said it was like 400 bucks a window 1.00

00:19:33.020 Wow. 1.00

00:19:34.400 But so then, okay, so you're not protected.

00:19:36.980 No.

00:19:37.540 I thought there was something.

00:19:38.720 Yeah, I know what you mean.

00:19:39.720 It almost has a magnifying effect.

00:19:41.580 Like the airplane windows.

00:19:43.160 Oh.

00:19:43.580 I'm making this up, but I feel like they magnify the sun times 100.

00:19:48.800 You are higher up, I guess.

00:19:50.540 You're closer.

00:19:51.040 And you're thousands upon thousands.

00:19:52.360 Yeah, you're 30,000 feet closer to the sun than usual.

00:19:55.480 Have you seen fall?

00:19:56.900 Wait, what's that? 1.00

00:19:57.840 Two girls climb to the top of a tower. 1.00

00:20:00.760 Like an antenna-like tower.

00:20:02.500 great and then they fall down well they no it's like they're stuck up there it's like one of those

00:20:06.280 like my favorite genre of film that sounds like a fun one yeah we'll talk about i'd love to i'd

00:20:11.380 love who's in it two actresses yeah as long as there are two

00:20:15.160 hello it's me anna sinfield from the girlfriends the number one hit true crime show that puts

00:20:32.480 women right in the center of their own stories. I'm back with more one-off interviews with some

00:20:38.880 truly kick-ass women on the Girlfriends Spotlight. I want to introduce you to Sylvia. I'm going to 1.00

00:20:46.440 climb this. And then there's Vaisaka. Let's see how we can stop killing and save lives.

00:20:54.260 Leila dared to ask the question. Is badness hereditary? And finally, we'll meet Rosamund.

00:21:00.560 If it wasn't for the year where Ella lived,

00:21:03.700 she wouldn't have died on that fatal night.

00:21:06.640 You'll even get to meet my mum in that one,

00:21:08.360 who I can always count on to keep my feet on the ground.

00:21:11.380 I'm not too intimidated by her.

00:21:12.800 What are you talking about? 1.00

00:21:15.700 Listen to The Girlfriend Spotlight on the iHeartRadio app, 1.00

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00:21:26.040 Ever feel like you're being chased by the marriage police?

00:21:28.600 Welcome to Boys and Girls, the podcast where dating isn't dating.

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00:22:39.420 It was hard to wrap your head around.

00:22:40.740 It was nature and trees and praying and drugs.

00:22:44.400 No, I am not your guru.

00:22:48.160 And back then, I lied to my parents.

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00:22:55.820 I've decided to go back to my hometown in Northern California,

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00:23:01.520 whomever I can to try to find out what actually happened.

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00:23:07.780 and not the obvious boyfriend?

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00:24:02.520 I received this gift, okay?

00:24:05.240 Not a poo gift, but this tablet, okay?

00:24:08.260 Called the Remarkable and whatever you write on.

00:24:10.320 You received a tablet as a gift?

00:24:12.140 Yes.

00:24:12.560 Can I see it?

00:24:13.380 Yeah, yeah.

00:24:13.940 What kind of tablet?

00:24:14.740 It's called Remarkable.

00:24:15.760 Hold it up.

00:24:16.540 All right.

00:24:16.780 So this is the folio, okay?

00:24:19.320 Oh, cool.

00:24:21.760 So what I'm seeing is almost an Etch-A-Sketch.

00:24:24.400 Yes.

00:24:24.720 Not Etch-A-Sketch.

00:24:25.300 I'm using a big thick marker setting on it.

00:24:29.240 But right on it.

00:24:30.240 So it's a piece of paper and pen, except it's digital?

00:24:32.800 Yeah.

00:24:33.060 And it saves it.

00:24:34.280 Oh, it saves it.

00:24:35.260 Yeah.

00:24:35.820 And it's cool.

00:24:37.180 But anyway, we'll see.

00:24:38.460 I mean, I'm going to get into seeing how I use it.

00:24:40.300 But all to say, I packed it.

00:24:43.780 Okay.

00:24:45.100 And at the airport, we get on a plane, me and Chris. 0.84

00:24:48.840 And I go, shit, I think I left the...

00:24:51.340 remarkable in my check luggage and he was like you can't do that i was like what he's like you 0.95

00:24:58.420 can't pack a tap lithium ion batteries ever heard of it okay he didn't say ever heard of it 0.74

00:25:03.260 and i was like well i mean people are clearly fucking that up all the time there's no way

00:25:09.260 i was gonna say it can't be that lethal because then planes would be i mean yeah but i quickly 0.67

00:25:13.420 google i'm wondering if like i have to you know tell i feel like my mother alert the pilot tell

00:25:17.440 this yeah so I'm like googling before telling the stewardess is so funny yeah it's like you 0.99

00:25:22.560 fucking idiot now we have to deplane well exactly that that would be the thing and um because I 0.99

00:25:27.780 once heard a thing about from a pilot that was like if you make a joke like you're drinking up 1.00

00:25:33.540 there okay they shoot you like they like have to deplane instantly because if you say like you've

00:25:39.140 posed a question like like a passenger has questioned the sobriety of the pilot so I think

00:25:46.540 this story was more like

00:25:47.440 are you seriously lodging

00:25:49.360 at da da da da da?

00:25:50.380 Yeah.

00:25:50.680 What?

00:25:51.140 Oh, wait.

00:25:51.740 I keep going.

00:25:52.320 I cut you out.

00:25:52.580 No, what did you say?

00:25:53.140 They seem drunk?

00:25:54.000 A couple times.

00:25:54.760 I remember one time

00:25:55.300 there was a guy who got it.

00:25:56.260 Have you heard anyone

00:25:57.100 giving the menu yet

00:25:57.960 since we discussed it?

00:25:59.220 Now that others have corroborated.

00:26:00.780 Giving the menu?

00:26:01.740 You know, the steak Diane tonight

00:26:03.780 and we're really excited

00:26:05.040 to have you folks.

00:26:05.720 We're going to be having

00:26:06.280 some spaghetti and meatballs.

00:26:08.460 Remember, you feel like

00:26:09.180 they don't do that

00:26:09.860 and it's real.

00:26:11.540 Okay.

00:26:12.200 So, by the way,

00:26:13.040 I've gotten like

00:26:13.760 really into

00:26:15.240 thanking the pilot intensely

00:26:17.560 okay for keeping me alive

00:26:19.500 when they stand there at the end

00:26:20.540 they don't always stand there at the end 0.99

00:26:23.100 no but when they do I fucking give it up 0.95

00:26:25.460 look I just took all those notes 0.97

00:26:27.420 and I just made them small

00:26:28.560 that's cool that's really cool

00:26:30.100 so I start googling

00:26:33.860 and it's like someone

00:26:34.960 and I'm just like really this person's like

00:26:37.020 in like Quora or whatever

00:26:38.800 because someone's like what's the worst that could happen

00:26:41.160 like I left a tablet or I left something

00:26:42.820 And the person's like, well, the worst that can happen, you know, the battery goes rogue or whatever they call it.

00:26:50.720 Like it catches on fire.

00:26:52.340 It's an uncontrolled fire in the cargo hold.

00:26:54.760 And the plane goes down, killing everyone in it.

00:26:58.380 Yeah.

00:26:59.420 And I'm just like, I cannot be the first person.

00:27:02.760 No.

00:27:03.000 There's no way.

00:27:03.660 There's no way.

00:27:04.300 Like if this, and then I see this thing that says they scan the luggage, like again, for it and whatever.

00:27:09.140 And someone else is saying if the battery is installed.

00:27:11.460 In the luggage.

00:27:11.960 no I mean in the in the tablet like versus like loose lithium ion batteries whatever it's less

00:27:16.980 likely but I was a little bit concerned and then like you know like the dramatist appears okay and

00:27:23.900 I'm like this would be when the plane would go down right after I film my special like yeah

00:27:28.660 right got it right totally I nailed it like they let me live long enough to capture yeah yeah okay

00:27:35.840 and so I sort of like was like it's not gonna happen I'm gonna trust I'm gonna trust

00:27:40.080 and I made it out alive.

00:27:42.440 You made it out alive with flying colors.

00:27:45.620 The wedding was a smashing success.

00:27:47.520 Thrilled to see your face in the crowd.

00:27:49.240 I tried to-

00:27:49.620 Jacqueline apparently saw my face in the crowd

00:27:51.640 and a couple of times I thought-

00:27:52.960 Scared at you.

00:27:53.560 So I thought, it's the thing where I was like,

00:27:55.700 is she looking at me?

00:27:56.660 There's no way.

00:27:57.320 I thought you were probably blinded by lights.

00:27:58.760 I was doing it so much that you must've thought like,

00:28:01.100 well, clearly this is just,

00:28:01.980 she looks over in this direction.

00:28:03.160 Like, this is just when she looks in this direction.

00:28:05.900 And I was like, trying to give you specific,

00:28:07.840 I almost winked, okay?

00:28:08.880 it actually got so absurd that I actually thought about saying something

00:28:11.760 oh that's so cute

00:28:12.920 yeah Kate I would have loved that

00:28:15.320 yeah Kate I'm looking at you

00:28:17.220 by the way I would have loved it and guess who else

00:28:19.560 loved it the crowd

00:28:20.380 no I know I know

00:28:23.360 I mean it couldn't

00:28:25.540 I had to plow ahead

00:28:26.640 but I was staring at you then I started

00:28:29.400 giving you glances that were like on specific

00:28:31.620 lines that I thought would cue you into

00:28:33.480 the fact that like clearly it was me

00:28:35.600 it was me you were really looking at

00:28:36.980 Yeah.

00:28:37.580 Wow.

00:28:38.320 I would like to plug,

00:28:39.480 I had a fantastic meal the other night.

00:28:41.800 Where?

00:28:42.320 And I would love to go there with you.

00:28:43.920 It's called Raph's.

00:28:45.380 It's down on Houston.

00:28:47.140 What is it, Elizabeth?

00:28:48.120 Isn't that funny the way this goes?

00:28:50.800 So it's like sometimes New York,

00:28:53.860 like I was in New York, right?

00:28:55.340 I'm there.

00:28:56.080 And I'm like,

00:28:56.460 where should I go for dinner?

00:28:57.360 And I asked my cousin, Rachel.

00:28:59.140 Okay.

00:28:59.780 I'm like,

00:29:00.160 I'm looking for a place right now.

00:29:01.280 Like, whatever, where should I go?

00:29:02.700 And she's like,

00:29:03.580 throw yourself on the notify list for Raph's. 0.97

00:29:05.540 Yep. 0.98

00:29:06.000 Yep.

00:29:06.220 And I was like, what's the new hot spot in town?

00:29:09.000 Yeah.

00:29:09.180 And then there was like a couple others she mentioned.

00:29:11.280 And it's like, it's really how it goes in New York, don't it?

00:29:15.700 Word of mouth.

00:29:18.120 Honey, it gets around.

00:29:20.280 Great meal, gorgeous service, beautiful in there.

00:29:23.220 Italian? 0.94

00:29:24.080 No.

00:29:24.820 And I refuse to regionalize.

00:29:26.540 Okay, please don't.

00:29:27.700 Because I couldn't tell you.

00:29:28.500 How do you feel when you see that a place is New American?

00:29:31.880 Does your stomach drop?

00:29:34.440 I get afraid. 0.99

00:29:35.180 I get so it's like new American yeah I'm googling exactly what that is now 0.82

00:29:41.300 new American cuisine definition here we go oh this is ridiculous useless a type of fusion cuisine

00:29:52.660 which assimilates flavors from the melting pot of who wrote this from the melting pot of traditional

00:29:57.780 American cooking techniques mixed with foreign and sometimes molecular gastronomy components

00:30:02.660 there's often a focus on fresh local and seasonal farm to table ingredients i mean so that's what

00:30:07.020 i think of i know i don't know i get nervous i guess what it is is yeah i get well i get really

00:30:13.240 nervous about the molecular gastronomy well ew what yeah i mean i don't want to foam i don't

00:30:18.320 want to smear i don't want to dribble i don't want to right if there is any freaking dry ice

00:30:24.680 right involved yeah you and i i have fun i would have fun at a dry ice restaurant with you

00:30:31.080 Oh.

00:30:31.480 Like I would have fun with like a dry ice cocktail.

00:30:34.400 Oh, well, definitely.

00:30:35.880 But the food's never good in my experience.

00:30:37.780 In my experience, once you get into that, the food takes a hit.

00:30:41.280 The ego of the molecular scientist is the issue, right?

00:30:45.140 Yeah.

00:30:45.540 The ego.

00:30:46.160 I always picture this very specific guy in my head that I must have seen on TV 20 years ago.

00:30:51.980 Okay.

00:30:52.420 Who's just so excited about kind of like...

00:30:55.680 The essence of a vegetable?

00:30:57.020 I wish.

00:30:57.780 How about just the vegetable itself?

00:30:59.360 Oh, I see what you're saying.

00:31:00.080 the essence like pulled from it doesn't this taste like this vegetable yeah right the fog of

00:31:06.140 the mushroom or whatever yeah yeah like oh well is that what's happening there they're fully

00:31:11.760 creating flavors out that were not there like i guess molecular it's like if the science has

00:31:18.580 taken over it's like any time the tool is becoming primary we're in trouble we're in trouble you're

00:31:26.240 in trouble it the tool better be serving yeah the art yeah like i always picture like you know

00:31:32.920 like never trust a skinny chef okay right right but i picture this like microscopic man who's very

00:31:39.400 like pumped about his blowtorch you know what i mean yeah and i wait for the mad scientist okay

00:31:48.620 i wait for them like because i will i believe they're out there nothing is no genre is inherently 0.96

00:31:54.040 fucked in my opinion right of course not the molecular gastronomy i'll be first in line at

00:31:59.240 the mushroom fog hut yeah yeah like like but here's an idea molecular gastronomy put to the 0.90

00:32:08.060 service of quantity without impact or fill me the way i want to be filled which is like here's what

00:32:20.340 the molecular gastronomist could do for me, right? It would be instead of serving me a tiny

00:32:25.700 terrine, okay? The molecular gastronomist like pumps air into something in such a way that I

00:32:32.100 get to eat the mushroom terrine in the form of a cloud, you know, for 10 minutes, right?

00:32:38.340 It feels like you're eating?

00:32:39.840 No, I don't even mean like that.

00:32:41.400 You mean durational?

00:32:42.080 I just mean like-

00:32:43.100 Duration.

00:32:43.540 Well, durational is essential.

00:32:45.840 That would be interesting.

00:32:46.560 Duration is what has been left out of the restaurant.

00:32:51.000 By the way, duration is, of course, time,

00:32:54.720 which is the thing we can't seem to manipulate, unfortunately.

00:32:57.660 But yeah, if it was like, imagine this,

00:33:00.000 if there was a durational experience, you're eating lasagna.

00:33:02.900 Yeah.

00:33:03.420 Some kind of molecular way you could eat the lasagna for as long as you wanted.

00:33:08.300 Yes.

00:33:08.860 Right? 1.00

00:33:09.560 And then they would say, this is so fucking stupid. 1.00

00:33:12.300 No, no, let's go. 1.00

00:33:13.340 And then you go, we're done.

00:33:15.100 And it disappears?

00:33:16.140 It's just in your mouth, but that's not fun.

00:33:18.220 The flavor, this has to be cut 1.00

00:33:20.100 because it's so incoherent and stupid that I can't breathe. 0.99

00:33:22.320 It's not. 0.99

00:33:22.760 I'm actually, we're arriving at something huge.

00:33:24.920 Okay.

00:33:25.160 So those who know me know that I'm always looking for duration, right?

00:33:31.340 In food.

00:33:32.000 Yeah.

00:33:32.260 So, but I'm asking, I'm now posing the question.

00:33:35.480 So like, have you ever, like they forget the appetizer?

00:33:39.260 Okay.

00:33:40.120 Or even a cocktail.

00:33:41.580 Have you ever had the main arrive first?

00:33:45.800 um i think i have okay so chris so chris is like chris looks at it like

00:34:05.320 like it's too late like right right i don't want that yeah totally totally

00:34:12.020 it's like walking in on your parents having sex the the main arriving first 0.55

00:34:17.720 there's something really embarrassing and like it's vulgar it's like the thing that you know

00:34:23.040 is possible but you shouldn't have to experience no no it's something um it's like there you are

00:34:30.540 and then no it's it's um chris's feeling is like it's like the moment is lost right no we don't

00:34:37.200 now want the whatever I still want it okay I want it even if now the experience is ruined

00:34:45.060 because if I during my ordering locked in on I want these things I want these things you know

00:34:51.540 what I mean like I've made space for them in my mind yeah heart and stomach yeah and so I want

00:35:00.500 them but like a cocktail arriving after after food oh that's crazy he's actually like like 0.68

00:35:06.900 fucked up devastating yeah you can't do that i've actually you know with ayurveda and such 0.90

00:35:12.720 you're really not supposed to for digestion you're not supposed to drink when you're eating 0.98

00:35:16.060 oh i'm talking about water you're not supposed to over you're not supposed to have water 30 minutes

00:35:20.020 before or after 30 minutes yeah you're not supposed to be like carrying it down on a river

00:35:25.060 of water. Also for the glucose

00:35:26.860 stuff, let's just say you had

00:35:28.800 bread or

00:35:30.520 whatever and glasses of water.

00:35:33.000 You're breaking it down so

00:35:34.600 you're making it digest

00:35:36.960 faster. Oh yeah.

00:35:38.780 The glucose goddess. So now it's

00:35:40.900 fast lining it. Yeah, you're going to get more

00:35:43.000 of a spike with all the water.

00:35:44.780 That's crazy.

00:35:47.440 Crazy, man. 0.97

00:35:55.060 hello it's me anna sinfield from the girlfriends the number one hit true crime show that puts women 0.87

00:36:06.160 right in the center of their own stories i'm back with more one-off interviews with some

00:36:12.180 truly kick-ass women on the girlfriends spotlight i want to introduce you to sylvia i'm going to 0.99

00:36:19.740 And then there's Vaisaka.

00:36:27.480 Leila dared to ask the question.

00:36:32.020 And finally, we'll meet Rosamund.

00:36:40.020 You'll even get to meet my mum in that one,

00:36:41.660 who I can always count on to keep my feet on the ground.

00:36:44.700 I'm not too intimidated by her.

00:36:46.100 What are you talking about? 0.72

00:36:47.080 Listen to the Girlfriend Spotlight on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. 1.00

00:37:17.080 in the arranged marriage universe, 0.98

00:37:18.600 you're basically on a sushi conveyor belt

00:37:20.620 and like raw fish,

00:37:22.080 you've got a shelf life.

00:37:24.480 And the wild part?

00:37:25.960 You're not just looking for someone you like.

00:37:27.820 You're casting for a mythical hero

00:37:29.260 your entire family approves of.

00:37:31.500 A saint, a demigod, a unicorn.

00:37:34.500 I know because years ago,

00:37:35.940 I sacrificed myself

00:37:37.120 to this chaotic, soul-crushing tradition

00:37:39.320 hoping to find love the correct way.

00:37:42.280 Boys and Girls is our absurd,

00:37:44.040 cringy, heartfelt ride

00:37:45.520 through the highs and lows

00:37:46.600 of the Indian arranged marriage,

00:37:48.500 finally giving you the validation

00:37:50.260 and healing you deserve.

00:37:52.820 Listen to Boys and Girls starting February 19th

00:37:55.460 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

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00:37:59.840 This is Ryder Strong,

00:38:00.940 and I have a new podcast called The Red Weather.

00:38:03.520 It was many and many a year ago

00:38:06.500 in a kingdom by the sea.

00:38:08.880 In 1995, my neighbor, Anna Trainor,

00:38:11.440 disappeared from a commune.

00:38:12.720 It was hard to wrap your head around.

00:38:13.900 It was nature and trees and praying and drugs.

00:38:17.720 No, I am not your guru.

00:38:21.480 And back then, I lied to my parents.

00:38:24.080 I lied to police.

00:38:25.360 I lied to everybody.

00:38:26.360 There were years right where I could not say your name.

00:38:29.340 I've decided to go back to my hometown in Northern California,

00:38:32.020 interview my friends, family, talk to police, journalists,

00:38:34.840 whomever I can to try to find out what actually happened.

00:38:38.180 Isn't it a little bit weird that they obsess over hippies in the woods

00:38:41.100 and not the obvious boyfriend?

00:38:42.500 They have had this case for 30 years. 0.98

00:38:45.700 I'll teach you sons of **** to come around here and my wife. 0.97

00:38:48.720 Boom, boom. 0.99

00:38:50.040 This is The Red Weather.

00:38:53.020 Listen to The Red Weather on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

00:38:59.800 The more you listen to your kids, the closer you'll be.

00:39:03.780 So we asked kids, what do you want your parents to hear?

00:39:07.800 I feel sometimes that I'm not listened to.

00:39:09.940 I would just want you to listen to me more often and evaluate situations with me and lead me towards success.

00:39:16.940 Listening is a form of love.

00:39:19.120 Find resources to help you support your kids and their emotional well-being at SoundItOutTogether.org.

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00:39:27.860 Brought to you by the Ad Council and Pivotal.

00:39:29.780 so now i'm back and did tracy for the first time in like a week it all fell away

00:39:41.000 how was that exquisite

00:39:43.280 by the way i felt like a hero for essentially working out after the wedding like i was like

00:39:51.000 oh so it's crazy this is a lifestyle like it's like that wasn't just some some pre-wedding blitz

00:39:57.420 Yeah, congratulations

00:39:58.320 Yeah, it's like, okay, it's here to stay

00:40:00.880 And now it's untainted by

00:40:03.060 Sort of preparatory energy

00:40:05.640 Now it's just, this is who I am

00:40:07.860 I move because I move

00:40:09.200 Well, I have to say, because I've been

00:40:10.840 I've been working out

00:40:12.680 And since I got to New York, I haven't

00:40:14.380 And I miss it

00:40:16.440 But by the way

00:40:18.860 Because I am new to exercise

00:40:20.240 Like, you're telling me I'm going to be working out on vacation 1.00

00:40:22.560 You're out of your fucking mind 1.00

00:40:23.520 But I'm going to Italy, I'll be walking, so it's fine 1.00

00:40:25.580 yeah um just making a note i can't find amh shampoo i think it's finally gone no yeah so

00:40:34.000 i'm trying to source they end it why i'm trying to source what the brand was source what the

00:40:39.900 ingredients were figure out a suitable substitute but i think it was like discontinued because it

00:40:46.220 stopped appearing on something maybe soco glam and then so then it was like okay well is it on

00:40:51.260 amazon i went running over there oh god damn it like i just see it literally it's nowhere now

00:40:57.280 so i'm gonna look into that that was the best shampoo i know that was the best shampoo i know

00:41:03.520 i'm gonna just just it's important to remember it's based on ingredients in certain quantities

00:41:07.700 and those can be located again we can only hope study the ingredients and then we'll put that

00:41:13.860 together so i wrote that down um i'm going to eat sody tonight i've never been if you can believe it

00:41:19.120 I'm going to get some lasagna, perhaps a Negroni.

00:41:23.500 They called me Negroni girl in Italy.

00:41:26.360 I know.

00:41:27.260 Have you ever...

00:41:27.920 Okay, I was texting you about this.

00:41:30.020 So I essentially have never not checked a bag that isn't overweight.

00:41:34.300 And I wanted to sum it up.

00:41:35.080 And I suggested split it in two suitcases because I believe you're a gold medallion status member.

00:41:41.240 You get two checked bags free.

00:41:42.980 So if you just split it in two, the whole thing would be free.

00:41:45.240 And you said one suitcase at all costs, which I think is strange because rolling two little guys is really not, it's literally no harder, I think.

00:41:57.120 But two little guys would be one huge guy, one medium guy.

00:42:00.280 See what I'm saying?

00:42:01.440 Oh, because you only have a large suitcase and a small suitcase?

00:42:03.540 I've got a huge guy and a medium guy.

00:42:05.780 Because listen, I purchased out of pocket the Away big one, I guess.

00:42:11.300 It's not that big, Fox.

00:42:13.500 Well, did you get the super big one?

00:42:15.620 No, I know they have like a gigantic one.

00:42:17.660 I got the one that's just a step above carry-on.

00:42:20.780 Yes.

00:42:21.440 Well, I don't know what the hell you thought

00:42:22.860 you were going to get with a step above carry-on.

00:42:24.580 Everything is small.

00:42:26.120 Unless it's huge.

00:42:27.040 Everything bags-wise is so much smaller.

00:42:29.980 Every bag is smaller than promised.

00:42:32.420 Like the oversized tote in almost every brand is laughable.

00:42:37.500 I want to say I continue to be humbled by the Tom Bin.

00:42:39.720 Yeah.

00:42:39.960 The Tom Bin backpack has continued to completely transform

00:42:42.660 my travel experience well those little thank you those little side pockets they really do it was

00:42:48.220 huge for me as well this this trip actually me and chris were both wearing them stalking through

00:42:53.820 the airport his and green mine and black bouncing behind us wow one of them might have made it into

00:42:58.820 the filming even imagine you were being filmed at the airport no no but on the way into the venue

00:43:04.920 i had it on oh got it got it got it got it um i'm gonna pivot to complete non sequitur as a fun

00:43:10.860 detail. Charlotte Tilbury apparently sleeps in full makeup. Ah, okay. Hold on. I saw a thing. 1.00

00:43:17.520 This is fun. Hold on. In a sort of 1960s way? No, this is fun. She says, my husband's never

00:43:23.400 see me without my makeup. I have my day makeup. I have my evening makeup and I have my bedtime

00:43:28.720 makeup. And she goes to bed with makeup on. Does she say the my husband thing? She said,

00:43:34.960 my husband's never seen me without a face. I mean. Her famous bedroom eye. Can you believe?

00:43:40.860 Makeup to bed.

00:43:41.940 Are you sending it to me?

00:43:43.240 I'm looking to find.

00:43:45.620 Yeah.

00:43:46.180 I take off my makeup,

00:43:47.520 do my skincare.

00:43:48.060 Does she say it with pride?

00:43:49.360 I take off my makeup,

00:43:50.540 do my skincare,

00:43:51.320 and then I put on my Color Theory eyeliner

00:43:52.980 that lasts 16 hours

00:43:54.140 and my mascara.

00:43:56.140 George has never seen me

00:43:57.320 without a bedroom eye.

00:43:58.460 Never.

00:43:58.800 I see her.

00:43:59.240 I tell you,

00:44:00.000 keep the magic alive.

00:44:02.360 A bedroom eye.

00:44:03.680 You know-

00:44:04.160 I support her whatever she wants.

00:44:05.720 I mean,

00:44:06.260 I of course support her

00:44:07.940 whatever she wants,

00:44:09.000 but-

00:44:10.860 Did she say, wait, what was the last part?

00:44:12.640 Did she give prescriptive advice?

00:44:14.640 Never let the magic, whatever.

00:44:16.360 Never let the magic die is what she said,

00:44:17.820 but that's where we take issue, of course.

00:44:20.240 Well, right.

00:44:20.720 I just, yeah, I think to me,

00:44:23.580 it's like what she's missing out on, right?

00:44:27.080 Yeah.

00:44:28.140 She's never, like she's missing out.

00:44:30.080 She's never had the experience

00:44:31.340 of having her naked face

00:44:32.680 looked at with love by her husband. 0.65

00:44:34.500 I know.

00:44:35.440 Take a minute with that.

00:44:36.640 I know.

00:44:36.960 We got to take a minute with that, yeah.

00:44:39.440 So is it keeping the magic alive or is it not?

00:44:42.040 Of course.

00:44:42.300 It's a fundamental misunderstanding of the magic.

00:44:44.940 Yeah.

00:44:45.720 But it's not magic if you have a white knuckle grip.

00:44:47.460 Does she not live in fear?

00:44:48.500 Yeah.

00:44:48.720 Exactly. 1.00

00:44:49.200 Like she can do it as she pleases. 0.88

00:44:51.040 I'm not here to shame Charlotte because I love her makeup.

00:44:52.740 No, and I don't think she feels any shame.

00:44:54.480 I just think it's, to me, it just feels like you're missing,

00:44:58.080 like you're not getting one of your experiences.

00:45:01.500 It's like your naked face is another look and she's not,

00:45:05.560 like it's one look that's always in your repertoire.

00:45:08.300 Yeah.

00:45:08.500 it's like she's not playing one of her cards

00:45:10.760 yeah totally

00:45:11.840 and it sort of assumes

00:45:13.440 it sort of just takes

00:45:14.680 like to say like keep the magic alive

00:45:16.320 it just takes for granted this idea

00:45:17.680 that the naked face is inherently less

00:45:19.800 and it's just

00:45:20.220 something to be covered

00:45:21.280 yeah

00:45:21.680 enough of it

00:45:22.540 but it is interesting if you go 0.93

00:45:26.000 this is a woman who doesn't think anyone should see her naked face 0.97

00:45:29.020 then okay 1.00

00:45:30.260 maybe then her makeup is the fucking shit 1.00

00:45:32.260 you know what I mean 1.00

00:45:32.960 yeah

00:45:33.380 because this is like survival makeup in her mind 0.82

00:45:35.740 this is like

00:45:36.220 right right 0.99

00:45:36.740 makeup to fucking live 1.00

00:45:38.120 or you know like that one detail could make or break her for someone i guess right right i'll 0.98

00:45:45.060 never forget it i'll probably forget it this is interesting i'm doodling now as they say with um

00:45:53.460 digital pen i remember someone's being like doodling well because i'm a doodler as well

00:45:58.700 sometimes if there's you know and it's like oh it's a sign of um i had someone as a when i was

00:46:02.880 a child was like that's a sign of extreme intelligence like doodling while you talk

00:46:07.360 destructive i think there's something add helpful about it well that's the truth it's a little it

00:46:16.580 takes away part of the brain it does something again we're avoiding knitting needles at all

00:46:21.620 times well that that right that's what i was gonna say the needle repetitive action occupying

00:46:27.720 some of the brains

00:46:28.280 that it's just enough

00:46:29.220 to tolerate

00:46:30.300 basic focus.

00:46:32.380 I've started being served

00:46:33.580 these like ADD accounts

00:46:35.660 and I'm loving them.

00:46:37.820 Oh yeah.

00:46:38.080 I think I sent one to you.

00:46:39.300 I got one.

00:46:40.420 But

00:46:40.700 yeah,

00:46:42.320 it's pretty,

00:46:43.040 my God,

00:46:44.720 this is like death.

00:46:46.080 I'm like,

00:46:46.440 yeah,

00:46:46.580 it's pretty.

00:46:47.580 I know.

00:46:48.120 I'm so sorry to the eavesdroppers.

00:46:49.340 This is a true eavesdropper one.

00:46:52.140 I really don't think

00:46:53.060 I can ever do poo

00:46:53.780 right after therapy.

00:46:54.800 I was talking for,

00:46:56.320 you know,

00:46:56.540 it's like too much.

00:46:57.220 It's like,

00:46:57.720 talking and you're excavating and you're illuminating and then i gotta excavate and

00:47:01.320 illuminate here yeah yeah i think what we should consider sometimes doing on poog performing yeah

00:47:11.040 no i think it's smart i'm not even joking because like i feel like we have so we're too comfortable 0.71

00:47:17.160 god damn it it happened we're too comfortable

00:47:22.100 i mean i mean imagine if someone had never listened to pook yeah and a friend was like 0.98

00:47:28.420 you know what i like pook check it out and they turn this on they go what the hell is wrong with 0.82

00:47:33.640 you a couple of broads sitting in silence um let me think what lives in me is this just me or is 0.67

00:47:46.960 this universal when I cry at all I am just exhausted that's everyone I mean no no I think 0.94

00:47:58.060 I mean I think probably it's just I mean what are we talking what level of crying are you saying any

00:48:02.720 not not like sobbing but like tears are falling I'm crying I was crying yeah and then and I'm by

00:48:07.940 the way I'm fine everyone but I was crying and you gotta cry felt good I'm glad I cried but I'm not

00:48:14.420 glad just because of the exhaustion dehydration dehydrated haven't left the room today lost all

00:48:19.040 the salt it's four o'clock i haven't left the room well that's part of your problem i i've been

00:48:24.420 making element cocktails element with alcohol yeah tequila wow cool because i i was like i

00:48:31.900 wanted like a drink and i didn't have anything i kind of wanted like a margarita and i was like

00:48:35.540 what if i grapefruit salt watermelon salt citrus salt one of their things and it was delicious i

00:48:44.280 You heard me.

00:48:45.400 What did I bring on my trip?

00:48:46.580 Oh, here, this is Pug.

00:48:48.120 What did I bring?

00:48:48.960 I've got my Armra. 0.99

00:48:50.580 I converted you.

00:48:51.520 I've got my Moon Juice Super U immunity supplement.

00:48:56.400 I've got the Lyphoceric Vitamin C, and I've got Elements.

00:48:59.680 You stay on that.

00:49:00.280 I cannot stay on that.

00:49:01.920 What?

00:49:02.560 I have no belief in Vitamin C's benefits for immunity.

00:49:06.280 Something dropped away from me, and I just don't buy it.

00:49:09.040 I think that's fine.

00:49:09.840 I read somewhere, like, there's no proof or something.

00:49:14.020 I was like

00:49:14.480 I'm going to do an espresso

00:49:15.500 I'm going to shoot that back

00:49:17.460 the sun's out

00:49:18.820 it was raining before

00:49:19.640 I've had two cups of coffee

00:49:20.940 and yet

00:49:21.480 I feel nothing

00:49:22.800 oh well you know what

00:49:24.260 you know what

00:49:25.080 I mean

00:49:25.900 we're pretty

00:49:26.480 we think addiction to

00:49:28.020 Celsius

00:49:28.560 has occurred

00:49:29.540 in this household

00:49:30.160 oh no

00:49:30.920 we've caught it

00:49:31.900 and we're like

00:49:32.580 we need it

00:49:33.700 I can tell

00:49:34.480 I can tell that you're so addicted

00:49:36.660 because you never talk about it with me

00:49:38.220 never talk about what

00:49:39.240 I feel like you know

00:49:40.480 that I disapprove 0.97

00:49:41.360 of the Celsius

00:49:43.300 Celsius

00:49:44.380 Yeah.

00:49:45.980 Oh, you mean like I'm hiding it almost?

00:49:48.800 Like I'm showing like addiction behavior around it?

00:49:53.320 Right.

00:49:53.760 Like I've gone silent about Celsius.

00:49:55.560 No, it's because you were doing like two a day.

00:49:57.780 That was sort of, I wasn't, that was sort of by accident.

00:50:00.820 Like that was sort of like, I just love just flavors.

00:50:02.980 I think.

00:50:04.400 Yeah.

00:50:05.000 I'm not sure.

00:50:05.920 I just, I don't know.

00:50:07.080 I can't really tell, but I feel like there's something going on with the Celsius that just

00:50:10.640 other caffeine isn't doing. 0.99

00:50:12.160 Maybe it's the fucking taurine. 0.99

00:50:13.520 Oh, you know what I begged for? First, I tried to buy it out of pocket. Okay. Good idea. It's 1.00

00:50:19.420 some like sparkling drink that has something to do with blood sugar. And I was like, okay,

00:50:23.960 I want it. And I want a new sparkling drink to enjoy that isn't Celsius. And they're sending it.

00:50:31.600 I went to the Whole Foods or wherever that they said they stocked it. No, they said they stocked

00:50:35.660 it at Erewhon on the site. I went there. They said, we did. No, we don't. Something. I went

00:50:40.160 home that's when i begged and it's it's on route i've provided i've provided your um your po box

00:50:47.180 thank god thank god oh you know what we got to get into i forgot what it's called but

00:50:56.480 huberman's pushing it but it's it's this andrew huberman he has a popular podcast and

00:51:03.920 he's a neuroscientist I think

00:51:06.260 he's very like 0.99

00:51:07.600 kind of masculine

00:51:10.060 life like masculine

00:51:12.260 health hack kind of 0.80

00:51:14.380 you know what I mean like that's just

00:51:16.160 that is kind of like over on reddit

00:51:17.920 people talking about cold plunge

00:51:20.040 right right right right and

00:51:22.000 some kind of study

00:51:24.280 related to something something something I

00:51:26.220 don't know but basically

00:51:27.760 the following being like as effective

00:51:30.140 as antidepressants or whatever okay

00:51:31.900 regulating this this this

00:51:33.260 and it's taking these sighs.

00:51:37.900 So basically you inhale

00:51:39.240 and kind of when you get to the end of your,

00:51:41.280 you know, top of your inhale,

00:51:42.380 you sneak in a little more breath

00:51:43.840 and that really fills those sacks

00:51:46.480 and then you let it out.

00:51:48.840 Okay, so, and then.

00:51:57.280 And you don't even have to do it vocalized,

00:51:59.160 but I say, why not throw in a little toning,

00:52:01.060 the healing method of toning.

00:52:03.260 to literally vibrate the body

00:52:06.960 I mean I'm sorry

00:52:08.580 but tell me singing isn't healing

00:52:10.140 you're vibrating the body

00:52:12.340 I always want this with someone

00:52:13.720 the voice stuff

00:52:14.660 it's good

00:52:21.800 free the voice 1.00

00:52:23.320 your ass will follow 1.00

00:52:25.120 your ass will follow 1.00

00:52:27.020 wait were you being witty 1.00

00:52:29.380 or have you always thought that

00:52:30.820 that was free the mind 1.00

00:52:33.080 your ass will follow. 1.00

00:52:34.760 Isn't that a Funkadelic thing or something? 1.00

00:52:36.720 Isn't it the rest will follow?

00:52:38.080 I think Funkadelic had a joke. 1.00

00:52:39.520 It was like your ass will follow or something. 1.00

00:52:41.140 Oh, a joke. 1.00

00:52:42.180 Yeah.

00:52:42.380 Or it's like Bootsy Collins to say it or something.

00:52:44.760 Panicking.

00:52:45.820 Panicking that we've turned into a podcast

00:52:47.340 about misunderstood lyrics.

00:52:49.940 We have to wrap up because we're entering

00:52:52.800 into defamation territory of our brand.

00:52:56.780 See, I always think we got to double down and go harder.

00:52:59.220 I know, I know.

00:53:00.040 But also for my own mental and spiritual health,

00:53:02.920 I have to leave this hotel room.

00:53:04.500 Okay.

00:53:05.620 All right, great.

00:53:06.600 Thanks, guys.

00:53:10.240 That was POOG.

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00:53:45.820 Biggie.

00:53:46.400 You put on Biggie when you feel uncomfortable?

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00:54:12.880 This is Ryder Strong,

00:54:14.020 and I have a new podcast called The Red Weather.

00:54:16.460 In 1995, my neighbor, Anna Trainor,

00:54:19.020 disappeared from a commune.

00:54:20.280 It was nature and trees and praying.

00:54:23.300 And drugs.

00:54:24.220 No, I am not your guru.

00:54:27.880 Back then, I lied to everybody.

00:54:30.020 They have had this case for 30 years.

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00:54:36.940 Listen to The Red Weather on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

00:54:43.180 You know Roald Dahl. He thought up Willy Wonka and the BFG.

00:54:47.220 But did you know he was a spy?

00:54:49.500 In the new podcast, The Secret World of Roald Dahl, I'll tell you that story and much, much more.

00:54:55.320 What?

00:54:56.220 You probably won't believe it either.

00:54:57.680 Was this before he wrote his stories?

00:54:59.640 It must have been.

00:55:01.020 Okay, I don't think that's true.

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00:55:12.940 The more you listen to your kids, the closer you'll be.

00:55:16.880 So we asked kids, what do you want your parents to hear?

00:55:20.920 I feel sometimes that I'm not listened to.

00:55:23.200 I would just want you to listen to me more often

00:55:25.180 and evaluate situations with me and lead me towards success.

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