Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - The Ontology of the Birthday

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00:01:23.300 called pc product corner um hi i have so much to discuss oh my god you do well first of all

00:01:30.480 the ontology of the birthday because i had my birthday classically by the way sweetest thing

00:01:35.460 in the world i woke up in the morning on my birthday and saw that jacqueline had texted me at

00:01:38.680 1201 midnight a minute after midnight to wish me happy birthday which i found very sweet

00:01:44.220 and really warmed my heart i like to try to get there in case someone's still awake

00:01:47.460 you're feeling like the somber passage into the day totally i was asleep but it was really sweet

00:01:53.520 to wake up to i mean i have so much to say yeah i'm ready to lay down roots in oh hi my god so

00:02:00.820 many other women i just i fell in love with oh hi and that's all i'm gonna shut up spiritual

00:02:07.900 vortex is it i don't think oh hi is oh okay is it yeah no you're kidding 100 it's like why

00:02:14.840 i've been to sedona right no oh hi oh hi is a vortex i mean i'll double check this right now

00:02:20.960 but i mean that's like i had no idea well i know for a fact it is it is known as having like oh hi

00:02:28.940 i wrote spear and i got vortex so let's see oh hi is known as a spiritual vortex believed to

00:02:36.300 possess a unique energy and attract those seeking serenity and spirit oh my god oh my god okay now

00:02:42.360 this is this is an ai answer so it's kind of joyless but a little so let me just dig around

00:02:45.800 a little bit see if it can get something better um let's go to reddit we're the real wait but

00:02:50.280 wait but oh hi i just want to say this makes a lot of sense also because i had i had a powerful

00:02:55.340 astrological reading on my birthday and yeah and themes of home here we go peace came up

00:03:01.840 and then there there i go off to oh hi really by the way oh hi one thing that's really exciting

00:03:07.520 there's a million things but of course the spiritual vortex because oh hi was able to

00:03:10.960 completely keep airbnb out there's no airbnbs in ohio it's illegal really so that's a sign of

00:03:16.140 spiritual transcendence i thought for a second it was like air and i was excited i was like the way

00:03:20.140 that they have maintained airbnb despite being legally ruled away like i was like i was like i

00:03:26.880 know the seeker is an airbnb figure always has been well i was there also you'll love this yes

00:03:33.320 stayed at a hotel that i'm convinced and i'm going and to the management at el roblar which just

00:03:39.720 opened in ohai please bring jacqueline and i to your hotel yes i was there it's just open so

00:03:47.540 everything's so pristine i mean it's beautiful the same people who made the bowery so the design is

00:03:52.480 gorgeous it's like a western bowery holy kind of uh it was coming out was so fun moly they got the

00:03:59.420 they have the lighting award for me for ambiance for hotel lobby ambiance a mix of up and down

00:04:04.840 beautiful ambiance sconces beautiful romantic sconces and lamps sconces and lamps candles

00:04:11.840 beautiful fabulous food the most by the way okay i have an announcement breakfast included take a

00:04:18.180 minute with that because guess what a lot of these higher-end hotels have taken have done away with

00:04:22.980 so this was not an amex and your rate includes breakfast so breakfast come down right they get

00:04:28.020 my award now careful no no no careful the most beautiful continental breakfast i've ever seen

00:04:32.960 say continental i felt like i was carol king breakfast is notoriously bad continental is like

00:04:38.340 is like the yogurt and the croissant oh wait no i know just making sure that you weren't

00:04:44.280 the spread so this is continental all right yeah no yes yes i repeat most beautiful continental

00:04:50.260 foraged fruit as if like some kind of sprite like a fairy sprite had in the in the dead of

00:04:58.240 night assembled fruit like really beautiful i had my first burnt basque quiche had a basque

00:05:06.780 cheesecake gruyere black pepper by the way it sounds like they're paying me um but they're

00:05:11.400 really not i paid full price and but it was absolutely gorgeous the pool it's just it was

00:05:18.380 great so we got to go back i had a show-stopping meal at the duchess rory's place i haven't been

00:05:23.560 And yet, listen, I'm new in my Ojai journey, and I know what you're thinking.

00:05:27.340 They're going, we know, we've been there.

00:05:29.500 Or they're going, tell us, tell us about a land we've never heard of.

00:05:33.440 Yeah, Ojai, we get it. 0.99

00:05:35.440 Oh, someone who... 0.85

00:05:36.340 Imagine.

00:05:37.220 A woman in Los Angeles who's drawn to Ojai, imagine, you know.

00:05:40.840 But I have an announcement, which is that it was the day before my birthday,

00:05:45.080 which I think going forward, make the day before your birthday fun so that the birthday arrives.

00:05:49.620 Yes, and I agree, by the way.

00:05:50.100 Because two things happened to me, and I was thinking about you.

00:05:52.820 that picture was nice. I was euphoric in Ojai riding bikes at dusk. Okay. Riding bikes at

00:05:58.340 dusk, overwhelmed with beauty. And I go, I'm like, hold on to the moment. Hold on to the moment. It's

00:06:03.200 slipping. You're leaving Ojai tomorrow. I go, oh God, oh God, you're leaving tomorrow. Okay.

00:06:08.420 Yeah. And on my actual birthday, the next day went on a hike. It was too hot. Okay. So I'm

00:06:14.020 feeling the heat, you know, bees whipping past in the heat, dusty trail. I start to have powerful

00:06:19.400 visions of a mountain lion pushing us on the trail I start almost turning every corner expecting a

00:06:24.900 mountain lion to be there fears yeah I start to catastrophize I start imagining snakes I start

00:06:29.980 to get kind of I wasn't very anxious but I go this is a little weird and I start to go I want

00:06:33.880 to leave the hike I don't want to do this hike it's too hot of course and then here's the great

00:06:36.560 thing bailed early you mean the freedom to to make your own choices the freedom of that going

00:06:40.280 let's turn around you know and then right right right but then yeah in life yeah and I go well

00:06:45.780 I'm doing the full hike because it would be crazy to turn back now.

00:06:50.400 It's not monetary.

00:06:51.720 It's not social, right?

00:06:52.840 There's no one else involved.

00:06:53.660 It's not that bad.

00:06:54.400 It's not like you're on a thing with a group and you're turning back.

00:06:57.520 No, yeah.

00:06:57.940 It's just the two of us.

00:06:58.700 Yeah.

00:06:58.880 So it's like turn back.

00:07:00.100 So much freedom.

00:07:01.800 Start to get that, listen, as much as we try to run away from it, that little unsettling

00:07:07.020 birthday things, what is it?

00:07:08.780 And listen, I actually don't have an issue with aging.

00:07:12.020 I'm not like, oh my God, another year.

00:07:14.020 That's not it at all.

00:07:15.100 What is it?

00:07:15.640 It's just, it brings you into the passage of time, of course, but also I had this feeling

00:07:18.900 of like, well, you know, I've discarded about myself.

00:07:21.340 I'm not proud of this.

00:07:22.700 I become someone who tells people it's their birthday.

00:07:25.020 Oh, you mean to strangers?

00:07:26.100 I was like, wait, where were we?

00:07:27.980 There were little things I go, well, it's my birthday.

00:07:29.920 It's like, as it comes out of my mouth, I'm bringing it back.

00:07:32.180 What are you doing?

00:07:33.820 Why do I?

00:07:34.720 Direct, please.

00:07:35.600 Not to everyone, but kind of working at it.

00:07:37.000 Can I have a little more?

00:07:37.640 It's my birthday.

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00:09:04.400 Oh, here's what happened. I'm not going to say the restaurant, but I was given a comical light

00:09:14.040 pour of champagne. Was it in a flute? And I'm talking about, we all have been to a high end

00:09:17.760 restaurant, light pour, no wine glass, a pour so light. It was like, what is this? This is a

00:09:24.640 tasting. This is a $19 glass of champagne. You're giving me a taste. So, and I almost fear, or I

00:09:30.340 wanted a second glass I almost feared ordering a second glass lest I be humiliated again and

00:09:34.980 internally I'm going I'm gonna say something because then I look at another table with a

00:09:38.560 different server they get a normal pour completely normal pour healthy pour now I want to understand

00:09:44.300 because you know how there's that feeling of like adjusting to the shock of what a true you know

00:09:51.120 correct you know pour is in a restaurant right there's that right and it's like you know and

00:09:56.560 there's that and it basically and hey it's not heavy yeah i'm getting real tired of saying

00:10:01.200 basically i think it's gotta go um you know is subbing in essentially gonna do it for me i i

00:10:10.140 don't think so but you know maybe as a placeholder for now like the true pour in a wine glass right

00:10:15.320 that is you know that is eight ounces or whatever it is that that you're supposed to be getting

00:10:19.660 right looks like it looks just below where you think the line would be to cross towards even a

00:10:27.400 good pour right that's and that's the standard so now you're taking me below that yeah it's

00:10:33.740 and i'm wondering how below short yeah oh i'm taking you below that this was not this i mean

00:10:40.540 this was like you gotta be kidding when he stopped pouring i almost thought right i almost thought

00:10:46.480 oh is he giving me a really generous taste because it's my birthday so it'd be genius

00:10:53.440 and by the way take take a sip swirl it around you know like one guzzle like it's down you're

00:10:58.420 like yeah that's good that's good i'll take it yeah exactly he started slowing down the pour

00:11:06.420 and i go oh he's giving me a taste that's kind of unusual like taste of champagne i guess

00:11:11.340 slowing it down. Oh my God, he's ending it. That's the pour. I couldn't believe it. And then again,

00:11:17.340 like I said, eyes on other tables, normal pours. So I start, I go, you know what? If he, if it's

00:11:24.240 so light, I'm going to do a little, can I get a little more for my birthday? I'm going to do a

00:11:27.720 little one of those. So interesting. Okay. I don't. So here's what happened. I was on one

00:11:32.780 milligram of a weed gummy, which hit the second he was pouring my second glass, which, and then

00:11:39.080 I became socially I couldn't do it all all the faculties went out the window and then what

00:11:43.380 happened was I looked up I looked at my friend and I started because I had talked to them about

00:11:48.380 oh like on the guy's return how I was gonna you know say something and then the social then it

00:11:53.840 became too much and then I looked into his eyes and I kind of started to laugh and then it was

00:11:57.760 too much and it was pouring so here's what happened and this was hard for me he pours

00:12:02.400 a micro pour maybe a hair above the micro pour from last time but still very short

00:12:06.700 I say nothing. Wait, hold on. Clarity is needed here. Okay. I'm actually,

00:12:10.760 cause I'm actually a little bit confused, right? So I've experienced the, this is a tasting. Oh

00:12:15.680 God, that was the pour and he leaves. That happened. Okay. I'm sorry. Right. Okay. Then

00:12:19.440 the discussion came with the group about if it happens again. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That happens.

00:12:25.140 Yeah. So then I'm talking, I'm talking to the group. I'm going, can you fucking believe this?

00:12:27.920 Everyone's like, that's crazy. That's the, that's the lightest pour I've ever seen. And I'm looking 0.96

00:12:31.880 around other tables. I go, okay, I have confirmation of normal wine pours at other tables. If

00:12:36.580 If he starts, if he gives me the short, short pour again, I'm going to say a little something.

00:12:39.780 I'll keep it light up.

00:12:40.400 You mean on your second glass.

00:12:41.840 I want to be clear that you're not trying to say, to call him over and go, this is not enough.

00:12:45.500 Yeah, on my second glass.

00:12:46.560 On my second glass.

00:12:47.400 So you're going, I'll have another glass of champagne.

00:12:49.320 No, no, no, no.

00:12:50.340 On my second glass.

00:12:51.540 So then he starts to pour.

00:12:53.180 I'll do another.

00:12:54.040 Yeah, that was delicious.

00:12:54.860 I'll take another.

00:12:55.860 As he's pouring, I become stoned in the moment of him pouring.

00:13:00.900 And I can't do it.

00:13:02.160 I can't do my little plan. 0.97

00:13:03.460 and so i start smiling like a fool into my friend's eyes he pours the short pour maybe 0.70

00:13:10.520 maybe a hair more but essentially and something happened and this is what filled me with terror 0.82

00:13:16.080 he gives me a little more after so like i had telegraphed i'm like did he see me us talking

00:13:23.720 about the light pour still was withholding but then he could intuit that i do you mean he

00:13:28.980 consciously you know what i mean and this is also when marijuana when even one milligram will have

00:13:34.700 you be doing will have you doing forensic dissection of slight micro social interactions

00:13:40.300 do you think but are you suggesting that like your energy psychically kind of nudged him

00:13:45.760 unconsciously to kind of like tip his wrist for another more or or a conscious overheard yeah like

00:13:52.220 he saw something he saw something in my face or something because also i will admit this when he

00:13:59.560 did the first light pour he walked away and i held up the glass to the table it's two people at the

00:14:04.240 table to be clear to kind of be like whoa and i think he saw that a magnifying glass yeah but i

00:14:09.880 wasn't looking at it like right you could have been going look at this glorious color or whatever

00:14:13.740 magnifying like i could it could have almost looked like i was just doing a cheers but on

00:14:18.200 On some level, you must have known who's playing games.

00:14:21.100 Well, it's so interesting because if someone's doing a light pour, okay, let's just say,

00:14:25.900 or someone's withholding to a line, okay, in some way.

00:14:29.840 Yeah.

00:14:29.960 So first of all, I am curious.

00:14:30.760 It's not your family's winery.

00:14:32.260 Yeah.

00:14:32.660 Yeah.

00:14:33.240 Okay.

00:14:34.460 Champagne served in flutes often for whatever reason.

00:14:38.360 And by the way, I actually had, I used to love the flute now.

00:14:40.980 Although.

00:14:41.320 I prefer.

00:14:42.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:14:42.540 Or did you panic going, it's my birthday, so I have to believe that I love.

00:14:45.640 I love a flute.

00:14:46.240 Come on.

00:14:46.600 I'll be too upset if I'm getting, you know, getting it in the wrong way.

00:14:50.200 I actually love the wine glass.

00:14:54.000 Like, but like two months from now, you can admit it, like safely further away from your

00:14:57.220 birthday.

00:14:57.540 You're like, I think actually I'm back to flute.

00:14:59.540 But when you are served a glass of champagne, it is the same ounces as a glass of wine,

00:15:04.540 you think?

00:15:06.340 Like, what is a glass of champagne, I ask?

00:15:08.860 You know?

00:15:09.640 It's a really good question.

00:15:11.300 Because if it's less, then we have our answer.

00:15:13.100 How many ounces is...

00:15:15.400 I mean, it wouldn't seem like it would be given...

00:15:17.820 I really, really don't think so.

00:15:21.100 No.

00:15:21.760 Six ounces or something?

00:15:24.640 Oh.

00:15:25.420 Oh, my God.

00:15:27.420 Oh, my God.

00:15:28.140 Okay, so, whoa.

00:15:29.800 Okay, I'm feeling embarrassed.

00:15:31.840 But I still...

00:15:32.480 Okay, but before I read this, I want to say, I don't think this is practiced in the field.

00:15:37.080 Honestly, though, can we take a minute with my forensics, my exploratory nature?

00:15:40.700 I don't know what's coming, but I'm impressed, okay, with myself.

00:15:43.920 I've had champagne.

00:15:44.920 i've had i don't think this is practiced in the field but here's what google says

00:15:49.640 this is going to be hard to hear this is going to be really hard to hear

00:15:52.940 a standard champagne pour is typically four ounces this smaller pour size compared to a 1.00

00:16:02.400 one pour helps to preserve the bubbles and enhance the overall experience go fuck yourself 0.99

00:16:06.820 okay so this is really hard to hear and not practiced in the field so 0.99

00:16:11.300 shame on me i suppose he's doing yeah we weren't at per se in the 90s do you know what i mean this

00:16:18.240 wasn't a this isn't a tasting menu meal this is uh i ate a burger do you know what i mean so i'm

00:16:25.380 a little like it's definitely a nice bottle wait but wait wait i thought there was more info coming

00:16:30.300 it sounded like you're about to lay another one on so what is a normal wine glass though they give

00:16:33.940 you what six ounces or eight ounces or oh standard wine pour is five ounces what the fuck ounces and 0.91

00:16:42.980 all of it but then i just want to say quickly for do you tell the restaurant it's your birthday do 0.95

00:16:48.480 you not tell the restaurant it's your birthday typically and this and i want to do a psa to

00:16:52.860 everyone listening don't make your friend tell anyone it's their birthday don't make you know

00:16:57.260 it's on you to tell the restaurant we've got a birthday you have to know you have to know the

00:17:01.620 birthday person well enough to know will they be mortified by any special tension or do they

00:17:05.740 secretly want it or do we just give it to them anyway the point is i happily what was like hey

00:17:11.000 oh i don't know i think don't panic i love the details i don't know why i'm getting bogged down

00:17:15.440 the details i don't know why i'm panicking okay okay i'm not okay okay so so but the point is

00:17:20.980 something happened which hasn't happened in maybe a million years which was that

00:17:24.400 we ordered dessert i want to say eight people from the restaurant do a full song come out

00:17:30.580 booming song huge song dessert in like a shell bell jar big thing candle really initially i felt

00:17:39.160 genuine embarrassment and then it transformed yeah i actually felt like oh no no no no like

00:17:44.600 and my embarrassment actually wasn't so much oh other diners knowing it's my birthday 0.99

00:17:48.580 it was like oh i mentioned it was my birthday like gun to their head you better fucking do 0.97

00:17:55.660 know what i mean oh they they know the request came from you an adult woman asked like i felt 0.98

00:18:01.260 like of adults they were like she wants this so in that way it's like it is on your friends or it

00:18:06.760 is on you to ask your friends to do it yeah like i told that's kind of funny by the way i know as

00:18:11.400 principle i mean just like well because i i want it yeah because if they give it to me after i ask

00:18:19.740 meaningless yeah yeah exactly well i actually i actually had to do that a few years ago and this

00:18:25.660 is the thing in life where you have to tell people what you need yeah or else you're not we're going

00:18:28.500 to get what you need okay you have to let people know what you want we can't always assume people

00:18:33.040 are going to intuit it where a couple years ago i was having a birthday party and i had to say

00:18:37.980 please get me a birthday cake if i have to get my own birthday cake it'll break me i told

00:18:43.300 something about that was too but were you were you i mean if you're inviting people to your house or

00:18:51.160 birthday girl should not have to get her own cake i think it's laughable to just expect people to

00:18:57.040 show up with a cake yes they're gonna assume it's taken care of by the host literally the only thing

00:19:02.920 you do offer to provide at a birthday party is a cake you have to tell them yeah yeah i oh that's

00:19:08.340 interesting so i provided booze i provided food and i said please get me a cake i literally told

00:19:14.140 john i go please get buy me a birthday cake i mean but you essentially assigned it to john which is

00:19:18.660 fine that's different than sort of this vague somebody get me a cake yeah then then they all

00:19:24.620 have to coordinate you know it's like yeah of course and john really brought it out he got me

00:19:29.640 an unbelievable quarter sheets cake so and i felt loved okay so but they come out singing i feel

00:19:36.880 immediate embarrassment then it quickly transforms and i'm shocked wait but when did you tell them it

00:19:43.320 was your birthday okay so i want to be clear too i know the host like you know what i mean friendly

00:19:48.960 with the host so it was like a thing of like i didn't make the reservation my partner made the

00:19:54.260 reservation thank you and then we had to switch the time at the last minute so i messaged directly

00:19:59.820 and was like hey can we switch it by an hour or whatever and then because and i was like i'm

00:20:05.540 coming for my birthday tonight to kind of be like so that was what was embarrassing coming in

00:20:10.320 tonight for dinner for my birthday why did i have to say that but i did but i did yeah and even made

00:20:17.120 even more embarrassing that my partner when they made the reservation said it was my birthday so

00:20:21.340 now i've got and so she's reading my she's going we know it's your birthday yeah we got birthday

00:20:26.300 girl self-reminding and now i'm piling on and it's it's my birthday so then the booming song

00:20:32.500 i feel the shame and then someone takes over that i'm not expecting and i it's just it's i have an

00:20:40.560 uncomplicated relationship to the singing and i enjoy it okay and i think part of yeah something

00:20:46.840 i go okay it was it wasn't really long it wasn't belabored it was totally fine one thing that i

00:20:52.340 think helped me not be embarrassed it wasn't a big okay take out the phones it wasn't the thing

00:20:56.740 of okay guys let's get this on film right there were no cameras there it just it just happened

00:21:01.180 It was like it was 1932, okay?

00:21:04.260 But I realized, because we've all been in the restaurant where someone gets their birthday thing, right?

00:21:08.500 And standard is you, everyone, you turn to the birthday girl and you smile.

00:21:13.300 The other diners, you mean?

00:21:14.380 You have to do that.

00:21:15.040 So as a diner, I've been sometimes mid-conversation.

00:21:17.520 Yeah.

00:21:17.960 I usually applaud.

00:21:18.960 Yeah, I do a little applaud.

00:21:20.040 And occasionally, if I think it needs a little boost, I'll sing.

00:21:23.840 Oh, wow.

00:21:24.600 It needs a boost.

00:21:25.900 Yeah, yeah.

00:21:26.740 So.

00:21:27.240 Okay, I'm like, and I'm not trying to make it like I'm singing.

00:21:30.080 Yeah.

00:21:30.280 Like, oh, look, the whole restaurant's singing for you.

00:21:32.680 I'm trying to literally fill in their own chorus to have more fullness.

00:21:37.040 Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

00:21:38.740 They did such a loud song that there wasn't pressure on the other diners to sing.

00:21:42.300 But a couple people, I locked eyes with a couple people.

00:21:46.540 They sent me a lot of warmth.

00:21:48.140 They sent me a lot of warmth.

00:21:49.240 Are you serious?

00:21:49.940 And I actually went, it was subtle.

00:21:51.200 It wasn't a big deal.

00:21:51.860 They weren't laying it on thick.

00:21:52.960 And I go, let this be a lesson.

00:21:55.420 Walk in and give them a little something.

00:21:57.620 and then there was even woman i had an ecstatic experience because i love observing people on

00:22:02.000 dates and i was enjoying my birthday dinner but also had a hawkish hawkish eye on a straight

00:22:07.960 couple having a date and i go how many dates is it whatever and then they're stiff they're stiff

00:22:12.660 and then gradually i see a second cocktail a third cocktail afford and i'm counting their drinks

00:22:16.900 no oh my god like not actually but kind of and then by the end they're touchy they're having fun

00:22:22.580 i go oh look at them they are in love and she kind of does it on her way out happy birthday

00:22:27.000 not in a condescending way in a sweet way yeah and then it has a little something about him

00:22:31.420 comes up has a joke well he and then i and then um whatever and i just always feel happy for people

00:22:37.660 wait wait wait hold this wait wait wait what was the okay so you backed off it you backed off it

00:22:49.200 was that a joke you made about him to her it's also it's poor storytelling technique is why i

00:22:54.020 backed off but so i because i can't fully remember it was something like well you know what it was

00:22:59.360 i'll tell you why i backed off of it it involved an identifying detail about the restaurant

00:23:03.900 and in the moment i felt the urge to withhold the detail why but that's why because you haven't yet

00:23:10.820 decided if everything you're going to say about the restaurant is glowing enough it's glowing

00:23:16.780 and so i think you know perhaps you've made the right okay so to the listener i say i've backed

00:23:21.140 off of that because of that reason. But the point is they were tipsy. They were definitely going to

00:23:27.640 go have sex. And, um, I thought, and you, your eyes all the way out that door. Let me watch. 0.97

00:23:35.600 What kind of cocktails? My interest in the drink. Fabulous. Um, well my, my current,

00:23:41.580 my cocktail of the year is the Vesper Martini. And, um, right. I didn't have that though. I just

00:23:46.560 stuck to champagne. I just had the two glasses, which let's call it one glass is what it was.

00:23:51.140 strangely i'm actually asking about the couple oh their drinks because you just had margaritas

00:23:56.020 i saw like a okay mezcal kind of like sexy elevated marg um yeah and then there was something else

00:24:03.960 that i saw something we've talked about this when the heart because my heart plummets my friend

00:24:08.580 um ordered a drink not the highball not the highball yeah we've been through this when you

00:24:13.660 order highball and ice and you go oh i was on my way to being sexually active tonight and now

00:24:20.780 because it's like a diet it's a it's a diet coke it's a diet coke like it's being 96 in the

00:24:28.940 blistering sun at a horse track and you've lost all your money and they paid you yeah you know

00:24:35.640 no it's it's um it's it is the absence of pleasure if i see a highball glass they not a cocktail

00:24:43.080 on a cocktail it's what went wrong with the mojito there should be a warning and by the way

00:24:47.560 some restaurants i'm trying to remember which one it was one every every freaking cocktail 0.95

00:24:54.880 tiny illustration of what what glass it's in okay and i just i know exactly what the fuck i'm 0.96

00:24:59.800 ordering there should be a little warning alarm sign next to a cocktail if it comes in a high

00:25:05.200 bowl glass because certain like okay i mean i it's like if you know it's a topic i like to revisit

00:25:13.120 I don't know, every six months, right, to ask where I'm at with, you know, a rocks, you know, glass, whatever, the big cube, I can absolutely get into this kind of masculine cocktail glory with that.

00:25:26.720 It can be done, right?

00:25:27.920 The sturdy, you know, we've seen so much of that in film, right, that there's a romance to the rocks glass, right?

00:25:37.060 I think that's what it's called.

00:25:37.880 Yeah.

00:25:38.660 Whatever, Tumblr, I don't know.

00:25:39.720 then why is sipping something out of a straw in a vertical column of ice

00:25:48.080 why is it joyless now is it because oh i think i know it's the only cocktail

00:25:55.200 where they are kind of forcing you to use a straw yeah they're forcing you to a straw

00:26:01.940 also you know what it is i don't want to pay for that do you know what i mean you mean i could make

00:26:08.720 that in my own home yeah it's something about it it's just like it's not special i mean okay

00:26:13.640 if you showed me a magazine again someone was doing doing a valentine's party and they had

00:26:19.760 these a tray and these highballs that works and the ice cubes and this glorious um you know you

00:26:26.640 know striped straws popping out of them someone hands me that off of a tray that's cute as a

00:26:32.440 welcome drink at a baby shower yeah i am not complaining i'm excited by anything interesting

00:26:37.700 and visually appealing about a cocktail, you know, in that setting.

00:26:41.780 So I'll give it that, right?

00:26:43.820 But at a restaurant, I guess it's because there's not enough,

00:26:48.400 there's nothing happening with the weight of the drink in the hand, okay,

00:26:51.660 the energy of the weight of the drink in the hand

00:26:53.400 that feels specific to the cocktail experience.

00:26:55.760 I think that's kind of what it is, right?

00:26:57.800 Yeah.

00:26:58.120 Of course, a martini glass, I mean, you know, of any kind, a coupe, right?

00:27:03.680 Yeah.

00:27:04.060 You feel the liquid, you feel the thing,

00:27:06.440 and you feel the stem below it, right?

00:27:08.500 It's a whole kind of strange – to set it down is weird

00:27:12.560 because you're not holding it from the thing you set it down on.

00:27:15.760 So it's like this strange act.

00:27:17.740 Like, how else do we set things down like that?

00:27:19.620 Do you know what I mean?

00:27:20.080 Where we're not – I don't know.

00:27:20.680 It's like weird and specific.

00:27:21.960 And then rocks, glass.

00:27:24.560 I'm like, why does that not feel like – why is that one special?

00:27:28.660 Because it is.

00:27:29.900 Why, Kate?

00:27:31.100 I don't know.

00:27:31.900 Oh, well, quick.

00:27:34.040 on and pivot to another cocktail humiliation of a glass i was humiliated by a cocktail in a way

00:27:39.980 i've never have been before at a really nice establishment several months ago where i ordered

00:27:44.500 a spagliato which is you know a negroni with like prosecco on top essentially or that is what it is

00:27:51.080 that is served in a negroni glass in a in a tumbler whatever the fuck why can't it comes

00:27:58.000 over in a fishbowl size aperol spritz like a chardonnay glass filled spagliato with a huge 0.95

00:28:06.980 straw and it was it was maybe 9 30 in the evening i you found it vulgar i found it very vulgar and

00:28:12.300 i was at a dimly lit bar in manhattan and i go no no spagliato should be and it was it was as if i

00:28:20.340 were a tour it was my your first day in honolulu it was like if it were the afternoon i would enjoy

00:28:26.760 that but at night and they were so huge they were beautiful i would love it in the afternoon

00:28:30.780 but in the evening i didn't even want it i i don't even think i finished it it was like

00:28:35.080 such a turnoff and i felt like the other tables looking over going jesus it's like

00:28:39.660 my first time having alcohol like it looked like oh my god did you take a pick

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00:30:09.680 Wait, wait, wait.

00:30:10.940 The birthday.

00:30:12.000 I'm sure you're going to move on.

00:30:13.580 you stimulated me which is so so i've been doing these like working at night different like i still

00:30:19.720 have some work to do but come on we're in a different phase i take my laptop to to the local

00:30:25.200 bar okay and they're open really late and there's a booth in the back wow it's the novak writer's

00:30:31.680 booth okay there's a plug wow um and it's usually empty and i get a margarita and they don't mind

00:30:40.440 I'm not taking up a table.

00:30:41.740 You know, it's not a big deal.

00:30:42.700 It's not like I have to like drink for like – anyway, sometimes they bring it in a rocks glass.

00:30:48.300 Sometimes they bring it in, you know, a sort of voluptuous wine glass almost, right?

00:30:57.200 And I think it's got to be rocks.

00:31:00.620 Yeah, totally.

00:31:02.040 Right?

00:31:02.480 I mean, it's – there is a really nice appreciation and I don't know.

00:31:08.800 It's funny.

00:31:09.400 it's like i really like to be the sort of familiar yet mysterious regular right

00:31:16.500 it's like it's like the identity of you know well she comes here and she does her writing yeah right 0.82

00:31:22.780 but we don't even call it writing they don't fucking know what i'm actually doing on my

00:31:26.420 computer right it's not like i'm performatively writing right it's like this dream kind of like 0.94

00:31:33.040 I'm sorry I just had a vision of you

00:31:35.280 how do you erase

00:31:37.060 like I was imagining you

00:31:39.260 as this kind of shadowy regular figure

00:31:41.300 you never lay down the roots of hi and this is

00:31:43.380 so the tip of the hat

00:31:45.480 but like they don't really know you but

00:31:46.960 I imagine you going in with

00:31:48.920 a quill pen like I imagine you

00:31:51.040 furiously writing the back feather quill

00:31:53.120 pen and that you show up at the bar

00:31:55.240 with one of the things of the candles

00:31:56.860 that you hold you know what I mean the candlestick

00:31:59.080 in the like you with that

00:32:01.140 with the cool pants and coins in the back

00:32:03.380 and he was drinking

00:32:04.840 a margarita with that.

00:32:07.840 Well, I mean, I do have my...

00:32:09.060 And then being like, who, her? Yeah, she's here every night.

00:32:11.460 No, it's like, that's what

00:32:13.180 I think I'm doing, except it's like, my knee is

00:32:15.140 bouncing under the table and I'm wearing my black

00:32:17.200 and green gamer headset. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:32:19.100 You know, and it's a silver laptop and

00:32:21.360 it's...

00:32:23.400 I'm just laughing

00:32:25.020 because then there's

00:32:27.100 like Chris joins and his setup

00:32:29.120 is just a keyboard.

00:32:31.140 okay it's a fold-out keyboard his phone down so he's just typing right right right nothing

00:32:37.660 because it's going into his phone so it looks he's like saying yeah it looks like like like

00:32:44.860 the most pretending like to yeah like he like it's uh you know yeah it yeah like he's playing

00:32:51.080 an instrument for his own amusement well that reminds me of of a moment a memory i always have

00:32:58.100 of being a child at the library i went to the library law as a kid and there was a man in there

00:33:03.820 writing you know perhaps unhoused who knows writing furiously in a notebook and i'm like

00:33:12.220 yeah like i remember i was maybe eight years old i was like yeah like look at him go he's he's in

00:33:16.800 here he's writing his novel whatever and i was like i passed by him a few times and then i passed

00:33:21.360 by and i looked down and the writing was just squiggles yeah it was just squiggles and i was

00:33:27.560 like okay yeah yeah that was a foundational memory no that is uh well it's also like in um

00:33:38.340 okay for some reason i'm blanking on is it gwyneth paltrow playing sylvia plath perhaps

00:33:45.340 like i don't know and then her father's notebooks are are you know like the discovery the father's

00:33:50.560 notebooks are filled with chaos i mean i know it happens in like a few movies you know they're

00:33:57.080 working on the theorem it's it's like anyway i'm not sure it's floating past the way cinema lives

00:34:03.240 in the mind okay but um but when yeah there's like a there's like a nodding of the head

00:34:11.480 and it always feels very like it could be i don't know there's something it feels like

00:34:17.720 many lifetimes of this sort of thing and there's this other restaurant i'm going i wonder if i

00:34:22.680 could i could make them it's like can i become a regular in a way where i'm granted the privilege

00:34:28.520 to not talk well certainly but like pull you know if i respectfully understand the rhythms of the

00:34:36.540 restaurant right and i'm in the back or something in some spot where it's not offensive to pull out

00:34:41.600 my laptop during the quiet hour whatever do you see what i'm saying yeah yeah it's a balance it's

00:34:46.800 a balance if you want to take liberty is you know you better show that you know how to not ruin

00:34:51.280 people's good time right i'm not like pulling it out completely yeah you gotta be careful with the

00:34:55.540 laptop in certain spaces but that's why i told you my my my idea for i know i mentioned soft cover

00:35:01.440 but a cover for a laptop that's sort of the textures are all very restaurant table like

00:35:06.000 almost like a cloth napkin nice yeah yeah okay so it's not cold metal it's like that's smart

00:35:12.880 that would be respectful yeah it's an illusion all right take take us away yeah vortex no one

00:35:19.060 birthday thing that that i i had fixated on my mind i'm gonna get myself i was like birthday

00:35:24.780 blush i want this chanel blush birthday blush i go to so so let me just make sure i'm processing

00:35:30.440 this correctly yeah expensive blush need a reason to birthday blush well i like that what it was

00:35:36.120 special this is kind of something that i think i do over the years i really like around you know

00:35:40.520 in the days before my birthday i like going to the makeup counter at a mall i like going to like

00:35:45.700 the chanel counter i bought myself remember a couple years ago my birthday bought myself this

00:35:50.480 beautiful chanel like four different shades of kind of a blush palette like

00:35:55.580 something i wouldn't ordinarily anyway i become obsessed with this i'm just laughing because it's

00:36:00.900 the it's i'm laughing because it's so it's such an ongoing and real thing and not just you but

00:36:08.240 everyone right and i bought myself right and it's like versus i bought i know no truly i bought

00:36:14.440 myself i'm imbuing you are the gifter and the gifted doing it with something else so

00:36:17.880 really interesting thing happened where went to the chanel counter the guy didn't know

00:36:23.320 what he was doing okay so the thing where i was like i was like oh is this i noticed this product

00:36:29.560 that i have that i love that's a really really sheer tint like almost no makeup at all love that

00:36:36.160 own that noticed it looked similar but was in a different bottle and i went oh is this

00:36:41.460 a different product and he was like no that's just the travel set or no that's just different

00:36:46.240 same product just a different bottle you could see it was and i go it was not

00:36:49.380 yeah and i but what am i gonna do fight with them well if they start like you know picking

00:36:55.780 it up and looking yeah like like almost like well let's figure it out together right i'm like okay

00:37:01.320 i wish i just stayed silent did my research at home right right right so he's like no he throws

00:37:06.700 it away nope that's the same and i go oh okay they were out of the blush color that i wanted

00:37:11.760 i go to a different chanel counter you're hearing this i go to a different chanel counter in a

00:37:17.580 different in a different place entirely same mall there was this was the macy's one yeah

00:37:22.680 i go to another one i go hi because there's the blush i'm after the birthday blush that i'm after

00:37:30.400 i go hi wait i want to get this right yeah yeah i go i'm looking for this color and blush

00:37:35.600 she goes da da da here it is i see this same product and i go and this time i'm looking at it

00:37:41.940 i'm sure it's a different product i go oh how this is um i have this at home this is this is

00:37:48.540 different and she repeats no it's just the same i pick up the bottle i put it a little on my hand

00:37:55.140 i go oh this looks like a lot more coverage than the other one she doubles down oh my god so this

00:38:01.780 is crossing no it's the same and then I almost get a little I'm obviously not being rude but I go

00:38:07.060 no this is um this is a different product and then she kind of I think somehow is forced to admit

00:38:16.440 or she's like oh yeah like it's different I'm like I like it I want to purchase it I go well

00:38:24.680 I really I'm gonna I'd love to try this they don't have my color that's always a shock they

00:38:28.260 don't have my shade I buy the blush I go back to the other counter where the guy who didn't

00:38:34.000 understand what was going on was because I want to see if he has my shade because I'm ready to

00:38:37.960 buy now so I go back and he hello again hi again yeah dying to know if you went with I want to get

00:38:44.980 my shade in the travel size or well no so I said I'd like to oh I wanted to see if you had this in

00:38:51.340 the shade I don't even engage with the difference I'm like I'm not going to tell him he starts 0.81

00:38:55.400 ripping through the different drawers where is it where is it i see a woman concerned from another

00:38:59.720 makeup counter come over to him hey do you need help looking for something and he goes i mean the

00:39:05.080 point is they were out of my color too they're out of my shade but the birthday blush has been

00:39:09.440 transformative yeah i was convinced right a couple things my imagination soaring i was convinced that

00:39:16.600 he's looking in the wrong drawers okay because of a core misidentification of the product yeah

00:39:22.900 that's why i'm glad he would actually be forced to speak up you know what i mean yeah i was really

00:39:27.200 glad he had backup and then to not have an endless supply well this is what i say they're making us

00:39:33.260 go online yeah i wanted to go to the chanel counter and i look i was and i was open to buying

00:39:39.060 my eye wandered i go blush i wander over to a new foundation i am i am a fish in a in your barrel

00:39:46.120 yeah he could have upsold me anything he could have gone you know what looked great with that

00:39:51.040 this lip color i could have done it something that i want that i'm really excited to talk about

00:39:57.360 so jacqueline as we know jacqueline for a while now on the pod has been feverishly excited about

00:40:03.460 the instapot i have joined your community yes the instapot and by the way we have to go by the way

00:40:13.180 i'm still learning the ins and outs i refuse to read i refuse to read instructions because i just 0.73

00:40:18.340 go that feels unbearable to me i go i'll figure it fucking out yeah okay which isn't always why 0.84

00:40:23.940 you'll tap your fingers wildly and then i did a little no i google i go like instapot start 0.82

00:40:28.600 whatever it's it's definitely we should come out with the instapot because it is the instant pot

00:40:34.900 it's like it's not instapot no but i always say that it's instant pot we basically we basically

00:40:41.020 that's so crazy instant pot i had no idea i would have sworn it said insta pot insta pot to bring

00:40:49.220 well it makes perfect sense but anyway so you know the excitement that you're in and my first

00:40:55.300 note from just the only thing i saw you do is more you should always fill it up because that's

00:41:01.240 the whole point yeah totally so why are you cooking like you're just like don't cook for two

00:41:06.180 You know what I mean?

00:41:07.140 Because whatever you make is, it's like, then throw it in one of the, you know, caraway

00:41:11.660 glass things.

00:41:12.460 Pop in the freezer.

00:41:13.360 And by the way, every stew gets better the next day.

00:41:15.680 Pop it in the freezer or in the fridge.

00:41:17.520 Well, that's the truth.

00:41:18.920 Oh, definitely.

00:41:19.700 No, no.

00:41:20.040 So you guys, the Instapot is unbelievable.

00:41:22.820 So I've been making now what I call, what I now call nun food.

00:41:27.060 And it is, okay, so here's what I did.

00:41:30.160 Yeah.

00:41:31.020 Sauteed some garlic, saute function.

00:41:33.400 So saute function, folks.

00:41:34.620 Sauté function.

00:41:35.720 Olive oil.

00:41:36.240 Put a little olive oil in there.

00:41:38.100 I'm sautéing garlic.

00:41:40.140 I'm throwing in a frozen mirepoix.

00:41:43.040 I repeat, frozen mirepoix you can get in a bag.

00:41:46.640 You can get it in the frozen section of Whole Foods.

00:41:49.000 You know, and it's like, well, it's changing.

00:41:51.180 That's what Chris uses as well.

00:41:52.600 What am I going to do?

00:41:53.560 Since he's taken over the pot.

00:41:54.820 Really, I love that.

00:41:55.920 He uses a mirepoix.

00:41:57.200 Chopping up.

00:41:57.540 It's like, yes, of course, I could chop up an onion.

00:41:59.460 I could chop up carrots and celery and shave an hour out of my day or whatever.

00:42:04.620 so i froze a mere pause in there when are you supposed to read to your daughter what what did

00:42:09.800 you say no no it's just like when are you supposed to read to your daughter you know like

00:42:13.500 like buying back your own time via you know the one the one valid claim you know what i mean

00:42:19.780 well i've already when i'm using that i go oh i could have kids now with this right so then i i

00:42:25.480 hold barley which we received from re-grocery god bless yes hold barley in there and then it's just

00:42:33.380 you know sometimes we get a farm box and it's always a thing of oh god how are we going to

00:42:36.940 cook the vegetables they just all go in there they just all go in there the farm box finally

00:42:42.860 can work this is the farm box no this is the farm box okay if you don't have an instant pot

00:42:48.920 then you have no business having a farm box yeah okay so i mean i've said it once and i'll say it

00:42:54.800 again okay okay i dropped my like pumpkin in there like like took it off the front stoop like

00:43:00.400 my favorite yeah we gotta get rid of this little cooking pumpkin that's like our holiday throw it

00:43:04.720 in you know like what i might throw in i'm gonna grab it yeah on air live for lunch yes and look

00:43:14.260 it up because i did it and it was it was perfection did you cut it in half first obviously

00:43:18.880 oh yeah you have to get the seeds out um i don't think so i think i think it was um

00:43:23.820 i think it was i don't remember but it was it was easy i have some cashew cheese i'm gonna do i have

00:43:30.260 some tomatoes um the insta pot though but your nuns do nun food and it's just it's and I did

00:43:40.220 shiitakes and then I'm just doing the bouillon the vegan like you know better than bouillon 0.98

00:43:46.080 whatever the fuck tastes like chicken which is like disgusting I guess what I mean that's just 0.95

00:43:50.400 salt oh and then um no but it's great miso yep set it and forget it folks and moaning it's so 0.99

00:43:58.180 good moaning and you know back to the world of plant diversity right okay remember remember that

00:44:03.040 40 plants a week right when we hang up i'm i'm doing it the ease with which you can get that

00:44:07.980 in your instant pot the ease because you just throw it in i don't know how else to tell you

00:44:13.900 you guys if you're on the show throw it in i went to the as we know everyone frozen vegetables

00:44:21.220 they are more nutrient dense it's hard to hear of course if you're going right from the farm sure

00:44:26.840 but in your conventional grocery store you're going to get more nutrient dense items in the

00:44:32.200 frozen food section it's really hard to come to that understanding but it's true so there i am

00:44:36.480 find me but then it's then it's pretty satisfying by the way when you're missing i'm laughing i'm

00:44:41.360 in the frozen food section i'm laughing yep yep yep yep yep and i go guess what i don't have to

00:44:46.160 do wash this chop this it's unbelievable guess i don't have to do wash it and then dry it so

00:44:52.440 that it doesn't hit the oil in the pan scald me permanently and hot burning oil doesn't fly into

00:44:57.200 my cornea so then i'm i'm laughing i i have a joy in the produce i have a joy in the aisle and so

00:45:05.200 and there's a new blend there's this like one blend that's just like you know organic like

00:45:09.860 whatever it's like zucchini carrot and cauliflower forget what i bought it so oh it's like the like

00:45:15.960 it's like yeah yeah yeah it's like one of those throw a couple of those in there okay they got

00:45:21.600 i'm doing this this is gonna be getting beans in there yet i haven't done beans yet shockingly

00:45:26.160 you put them in hard right raw either holy shit by the onion like it either cooks the bean just

00:45:32.880 chop up an onion boom i mean it's i have sweet potato i mean as soon as we finish this recording 0.90

00:45:38.720 i'm gonna go in there and do it and then guess what you have takes 25 minutes to cook it waits

00:45:44.100 for you and then you've got you've got lunches you've got it's and you have none food and you

00:45:49.340 save 14 million dollars from not ordering in okay so that's it it's like whatever happens in there

00:45:55.000 happens in there okay oh yeah and there's no adjustments along the way it's like you've put

00:46:01.060 it in you've made a choice like you know i mean the other than kate like when you get into like

00:46:05.640 the herbs and the and the seasonings and different different well i've been throwing in just spices 0.52

00:46:09.740 and it's been delicious i haven't fucked it up yet yeah so but i'm throwing in also from re-grocery

00:46:15.360 like a provenal like whatever just like yes mix yeah the mixes salt pepper obviously you know i 0.82

00:46:24.200 throw the turmeric like in there like like for medicinal you know i'm like get that in there

00:46:30.140 okay so then so this is the the instapot so then i start going appliances interesting

00:46:35.540 as you know we were generously gifted from shark ninja a real fan of the a real friend of the pod

00:46:42.620 a creamy the ninja creamy so i've been intimidated by the ninja creamy i'm going to admit it i've

00:46:48.000 been like hmm i decide what's the worst thing that could happen i decided to do the most bare

00:46:53.960 bones thing possible which is a cup of soy milk a scoop of a vanilla protein powder i have on hand

00:47:02.160 some vanilla extract and i did go the extra mile and i purchased some um like pudding mix like the

00:47:09.760 powder a tablespoon of that dash of salt i mix that together i freeze it you have to freeze it

00:47:17.100 for 24 hours so you do have to think ahead it's in there that's the one thing for me it's really

00:47:22.500 tricky so it's really hard for me so i've never once in my life wanted ice cream tomorrow 0.91

00:47:28.920 so then i yesterday i go let's do it let's mix it up let's see what happens it's fucking easy 0.87

00:47:38.340 guys it was creamy it was smooth i was floored and this is like the most bare bones this is 0.88

00:47:46.100 no mix-ins this is with protein powder i did the math it was 30 grams of protein

00:47:52.520 creamy as the day is long i couldn't believe it that's the ninja creamy by the way this was like

00:47:59.660 this is like gym ice cream that i'm making or whatever there's a full ice cream function you

00:48:04.220 could make imagine this you have guests over you make them gorgeous ice cream and they go how'd

00:48:10.080 you do this you go yeah it's ice cream that i made from the berries from the from the local farms

00:48:14.040 like coconut milk ice cream i've been thinking about it i'm gonna make that for you you can do

00:48:21.340 you can do really anything in there i'm getting really excited about my my appliances it's

00:48:26.100 appliance freedom because appliances can free you or they can constrain you yeah and the instapot

00:48:31.680 I'm looking at it right now. 1.00

00:48:32.480 I'm locking eyes with it right now going, you fucker. 1.00

00:48:35.520 Although I have in panicked moments been reaching out to you because of confusion because I 1.00

00:48:39.620 refuse to read instructions.

00:48:41.040 Well, and I've tried to resist Googling for you because that's what I do.

00:48:45.780 Well, I Google, but I Google too, but it doesn't work.

00:48:48.820 Or the information I get, I need it from you.

00:48:51.840 No, but like you're like, you send me like whatever the code on the screen of the Instant

00:48:56.400 Pod.

00:48:56.760 It's like a couple of letters and numbers, right?

00:48:59.120 That I'm like, I don't know what that means.

00:49:00.380 i start googling because you know i have a curious mind but i'm like wait i'm in the middle of doing

00:49:05.040 something why am i googling this like you know what i mean like no like well it's like i need

00:49:10.960 the like emotional support of like i need the human touch because the ai because this is this 0.65

00:49:15.800 is actually i asked a question it's like oh you said hey siri what the fuck yeah well i've been

00:49:20.140 doing that a little bit just to experiment and um she's been helpful but i but i just what it's an

00:49:26.200 ADD thing I'm sure but it's like the instructions I just I don't understand them I cannot metabolize

00:49:31.060 it so I go on YouTube to watch the instruction videos I'm still confused I'm going to say this

00:49:35.320 now because anyone with the Instapot who's new might have the same question I'm still confused

00:49:39.340 Jacqueline so when I put it in at the top do you screw that is no screw there's nothing you don't

00:49:44.140 touch that thing and by the way it's loose anyway so you're always be loose I'm sealing it up with

00:49:48.160 like a child it should always be loose going and now it's sealed closed literally you could just

00:49:52.660 tap it yeah yeah totally that's just like that's a loose thing that keeps the steam from being one

00:49:58.540 like sharp stream it just sort of filters it it's like a loose cap after you do saute mode

00:50:04.180 do you hit cancel and then do pressure cook you've asked this before i don't recall it's like try

00:50:10.820 hitting pressure cook and see if it lets you do it do you know what i mean okay okay okay sorry

00:50:14.920 this can all be settled if it you know i think you can probably go straight to it without like

00:50:19.640 shutting it off yeah but i mean it is pressing it once or twice okay so it's sort of like got it

00:50:25.960 i've done probably like if if it doesn't allow you to you know off and on you know what i mean but

00:50:31.460 but you need to start with bigger portions because it's like like i mean like utilizing the fact that

00:50:37.980 it can just handle i know all this stuff in and then the next day i mean that's a huge benefit of

00:50:45.020 it so yeah i really want you to try to like like fill it up you know fill it up and it'll bring it

00:50:50.700 down i've got a couple japanese sweet potatoes yes chop chop chop if you or me would you chop

00:50:58.180 this up versus what yeah this onion well it's a red onion cooked red onion are you going what

00:51:02.800 else can i do that's easier no i'm just like red onion do you think that would be tasty in there

00:51:07.860 of course yeah i mean well guess what i also have i think every vegetable is tasty together

00:51:15.160 i think that's actually really true that's beautiful okay well this has been a real joy

00:51:21.920 to talk okay on to product corner for the paid subscribers i got something for product well i

00:51:26.360 got a couple things gathered for product corner if you can imagine one of them is f1 branded but

00:51:31.860 i won't say any more do you know what it is and i've got the lipstick i wore last night on the

00:51:35.640 red carpet holy shit all right see you in product corner in one second all right love you love you 0.85

Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - July 29, 2025

The Ontology of the Birthday

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