00:23:44.800oh you know what i heard today hot off of chris mentioning it while reading on his phone
00:23:52.840he's like do you use dry shampoo i'm like not really he's like unilever just recalled
00:23:58.080a bunch of dry shampoo because of like you know oh carcinogens like the powder you mean or the
00:24:04.980spray well hard to say i don't okay because the answer is no i don't use it but i use text i use
00:24:11.920like texturizing spray like the ori bay yeah i'm i'm guessing i mean not to be rude unilever it's
00:24:21.300all poison i just the ori bay i'm i'm guessing isn't using the same like industrial uh stuff
00:24:28.860that unilever's got oh well i'm looking at it there she is folks unilever's you know if you
00:24:36.700buy normal products it's probably by them got it like everything they're in like the caress
00:24:43.980they're like a huge one i just had never even heard well caresses inside of them is what i'm
00:24:49.480saying exactly they have dove yeah read off read off it's kind of interesting they've got
00:24:53.760it's exciting to look at these companies just to like think because you know what this reminds me
00:24:58.200of it's in madmen when they're divvying up and they're like american airlines when they're like
00:25:03.380whole okay listen to this unilever's got pg tips okay ponds slim fast yeah skippy
00:25:12.200suave your whole life vaseline saint ives i mean those are the those are the big ones i'm seeing
00:25:20.220they're the big yeah big and then and then so that's like a big one and then um thermosilk
00:25:26.140procter and gamble's another huge one oh yeah so it's like and you think they're competitive you
00:25:32.960You know, like, you know, like, you know, like you think you're looking at the shelf thinking like Garnier is competing with like Pantene.0.55
00:25:41.200You're like, oh, poor old Pantene, you know, like mom and pop shop Pantene is getting like buttressed by the same fucked by, you know, Garnier's whatever.
00:25:51.540I mean, those might not be the same, but it's just, yeah, the law of the land as it plays out on the shelves, you know, isn't the story it seems to be.
00:25:59.280the brand stability of dove well the story dove told us for years and keeps telling the original
00:26:07.340one or the new one because or the new ones because boy have they gone for it they're like we are
00:26:14.620warriors of justice they're like yeah on the ballot now but yes yeah yeah but it's still about
00:26:22.840beauty make no mistake you know what i mean like oh make no mistake i'll never forget i saw early
00:26:28.960pandemic i saw an ad and it was like they were you know it's like a nurse like her face is has
00:26:35.580huge indentations from the intense mask from like the industrial 95 she's wearing yeah and it's like
00:26:43.140dry skin or whatever and it's like her her face imprinted with the how dare they honestly her
00:26:50.140service go to hell they were like we need to create for dove they were like we need to create
00:26:56.660what uh you know the duck the duck the duck with the oil spill oh yeah yeah the the um don0.56
00:27:05.580exactly yeah don don on the duck genius yeah i would love it's not don but like don on the duck
00:27:14.140okay don on the duck they were like what's don on the duck for dove right and they were like
00:27:19.140woman they're like they're like a woman nurse nurse you know like suffering like yeah you know
00:27:26.320a staple product i mean because like dove to me and then you know there's these classic you know0.88
00:27:31.400these products dove to me will always smell like my grandmother's bathroom you know because she
00:27:37.040always had dove in there dove was really big for my mom you know dove bar soap yeah just and oh i
00:27:45.240use dove oh i just use dove yeah it's uh boy have they held i mean i've i've talked about like the0.91
00:27:52.800olay journey how they had to like they're like poor poor bastards had to run from i mean just
00:27:57.220from this is just my viewing as a shopper but how they had to run from their name oil of olay in the
00:28:02.90090s when when everything was anti-comedogenic whatever oh they were like we're olay
00:28:09.480they had to they had to they were like i felt bad for them i felt bad for them i was like0.93
00:28:16.640these poor bastards have like that word oil in them like god it must be a crisis over there and0.97
00:28:22.480then now then and then that's when they it's like and now we're back it's like doctor doctor that0.99
00:28:28.540dr seuss where all the little creatures get some of them have a little star on their chest and then
00:28:33.780they um the other ones want it and then they the ones who don't want you sorry wait star on the
00:28:39.400five o'clock i don't know what you're saying the creature dr seuss book and it's sort of like0.50
00:28:46.080some of the you know whatever the fucks you know have have a marking or something and then everyone
00:28:54.320wants it so they add it but then it's not cool anymore oh well there it is okay so it is so do0.96
00:29:00.720you do you chop ole I mean do you like I like to fantasize of being like like in the um you know
00:29:08.660I love to sit around and fantasize about if I were in the in the room just just that I would
00:29:12.520have had the courage to say no we're oil of olay and we're not going to stop being oil of olay
00:29:17.440because guess what oil oil is life and right it shall come back around double down yeah yeah yeah
00:29:28.940courage do you have any interest in vampires because i've been going deep i've been watching
00:29:34.120three vampire based series kind of at once no not not classically but once never taken right
00:29:40.760I immediately become intrigued as you saying vampire.
00:31:04.240i could use something like that but that's not even what i'm watching right now that's just
00:31:09.060now i'm doing interview with a vampire and let the right one in simultaneous viewing very fun
00:31:15.640and uh i've relapsed so hard on social media the last couple days just the scrolling particularly
00:31:22.300when travel becomes exacerbated you know just in the terminal for no reason and i'm i have to delete
00:31:28.060i have to even just take a two-day break i just can't look at all it's just i've become and who
00:31:33.840cares but i'm gonna i got no i got it today i'm deleting it today yeah yeah i i basically i've
00:31:40.080i've um yes okay okay because i just wanted to shout out to my cousin i met so i didn't meet i
00:31:48.400saw my cousin in let's let's talk about this she's a junior in high school she doesn't have social
00:31:55.320media okay okay she's like i don't do it explain and i was moved almost to tears she goes she's by
00:32:03.160the way this 16 year old girl she's sitting there is this the is this a kid of a farmer though is
00:32:08.340this dirty girl produce this kid or something okay actually a different farmer but yes she's0.91
00:32:12.320a frog hollow daughter but listen but she's she's and i'm talking to her and i'm going oh my god1.00
00:32:18.660this like vibrant wonderful 16 year old it comes up that she doesn't do instagram that she doesn't
00:32:24.840do snapchat and i was like i was grilling her i was like do you have friends like this are there
00:32:28.980others like she was like yes that's what i was wondering she was like no just her and she's
00:32:33.820being she's sitting there at that table being unbelievable and i was talking to my cousin
00:32:37.280later that night i went can you imagine that age 16 years old so self-assured so sweet like so just
00:32:42.700like and my friend and my cousin goes well it's because she's not on social media and i was like
00:32:47.160of course like i mean who knows there's also something that's just her but right the bravery
00:32:51.960the courage can you imagine and she's and she was laughing she was like yeah people will say to me
00:32:55.780like what's your snap and i'll be like i don't have one and they'll be like what's your instagram
00:32:59.040handle and i'll be like i don't have one and they just kind of go like oh okay and like walk away
00:33:02.880like by the way she's this is not so like nerd okay she's like yeah yeah oh my god gorgeous
00:33:09.520i mean wonderful could not believe it right yeah you're like oops you're like giving her salvation
00:33:21.100by explaining that she's gorgeous and then you're like the panic and wonderful well i'm throwing in
00:33:26.400that she's gorgeous just to be like this is you know you would understand if she were someone who
00:33:31.620was snapping we all know why you're throwing it is gorgeous exactly we don't it's an important
00:33:35.580detail you know yeah exactly we don't i knew i i was moved practically to tears and then the bravery
00:33:42.800knowing that she's that it's not like oh and her and her best friends are all doing this and she
00:33:46.940said she was like yeah i had tiktok for a couple weeks and i was scrolling so much i just you know
00:33:51.220i had to delete it unbelievable i i yeah i i accidentally happened on to uh instagram the
00:34:00.260other day and it it led to a complete personal crisis like oh wow minutes you know what i mean
00:34:05.980like about um my own reclusive nature you know what i mean i was like look at all these people
00:34:12.440just having so much fun together yeah they just love it and like being like and like wondering why
00:34:18.600I don't like I'm not called to that in the same I just why it's so hard for me to show up to a
00:34:23.880yeah picnic yeah yeah why yeah why it's so hard yeah and then and then you know once I'm there
00:34:32.340you know having a blast but then I don't know I mean then the other piece of this is can't we stop
00:34:39.520asking ourselves why we are the way we are i know we gotta stop i know i know i've turned to
00:34:46.600some of the most outrageous guided meditations available on the internet um like i run like
00:34:55.080this this is a woman that i think her name is diana cooper it's like it's like meeting your
00:35:00.080guardian angel it's like we've done that together no i think that was denise lin
00:35:04.800okay we did a guided meditation together in the dark about 10 years this one yes that was
00:35:11.440fantastic that was meeting that was walking with your spirit guides i believe oh yeah yeah the
00:35:15.920flower in the garden yeah like yeah i'm just turning i'm turning to to like saccharine like
00:35:22.060images like this this meditation the unicorn meditation in which you know she makes some
00:35:27.200interesting claims that one you know unicorns um she's like they are they were horses okay
00:35:37.580okay and they've transcended I believe now I have to remind you I was in a I was in a trance state
00:35:42.940of course while she was passing along this information but of course what she's saying
00:35:46.180is that they were horses they've transcended and now they have a ethereal the um the horns
00:35:52.300must be kind of the pineal gland right there's something yeah third eye well it's third eye yeah
00:35:56.680okay it's the absolute clarity of the third eye oh my god that by the way i've never cared about
00:36:03.240unicorn i've never thought until now suddenly suddenly i'm like i need to integrate unicorn
00:36:08.080imagery into my private life just as a personal totem no yes because well the way that unicorns
00:36:15.080have been made into a gag you know um they've they've been stolen from us yes they've been
00:36:23.040lisa frankified they've been they've been stolen i do enjoy lisa frank's work okay but but but
00:36:27.900nonetheless okay but yeah there are worse kind of versions of it and so it's talking about unicorn
00:36:32.420energy it's basically saying like mix and bold claims but it's uh it's like it's like unicorn
00:36:38.380energy comes to those who uh you know are going to help others and and if you like
00:36:44.960leadership and helping others this kind of thing and that they step in and and surround you and
00:36:51.720we'll stay with you and I don't know it was uh it was compelling and and then you know I tried
00:36:58.580yeah yes it's that one guardian angel one you know if they get to the meet too quick
00:37:03.320like you need a long induction if there's not a long induction what's the point I mean yeah it's
00:37:12.020like like when they're like okay you're gonna go on this journey and they're like you know 10 9 8
00:37:18.280down some steps oh yeah and you're expected to just soar in then you know it's too fast um
00:37:27.540and I'm like I'm not in yet I'm not in yet I want to get in the unicorn the unicorn stuff
00:37:32.040you know what I'm okay I'm excited for your return because I miss you terribly and I'm
00:37:37.480excited for let's do some let's do some what about honestly is horseback riding
00:37:41.640on the agenda in any way because it's on my list it's absolutely on my list i of course fear being
00:37:50.120bucked being thrown but i guess that's part of it i will do by the way i know of an excellent
00:37:57.260horseback riding thing that we can do okay and it's a we will ride it and guess what's at the
00:38:03.740you do it's a gorgeous meal a gorgeous meal i think chili and hot and um onion rings
00:38:09.820holy shit and they're but they're apparently my friend who really knows about food says
00:38:14.740they're the best onion rings in the world and you ride your horse to the top and they give you chili0.99
00:38:19.440dinner no we're doing god do you ride it back down yeah oh my god but by the way i've only
00:38:28.020have been on a horse a couple times the spirituality of riding on the back of a horse
00:38:34.340no I mean like I have like photographic memory of just looking at because from the top of horse a
00:38:39.240tree looks different the ground looks different just that simple shift by the way it's not a
00:38:42.740simple shift it's huge but there's something yeah when you're on the back of a horse the world just
00:38:47.940does look different doesn't it it's a completely different town well yeah suddenly your head is
00:38:53.760what four and a half feet higher and your own and it's pure archetype it's like pure archetype
00:38:59.720visitation yeah well also you know the presence of horses just I remember while I was reading the
00:39:09.220listening to the unicorn meditation that I was like oh yeah that period where I like drew horses
00:39:15.200someone gave me a book how to draw a horse and it took me it took me for like for you know a couple
00:39:20.840months as a child and I took some horseback riding lessons briefly as a as a kid and and I
00:39:26.420really just enjoyed um going around around that little dirt patch it's fantastic oh I like I mean
00:39:36.020I like the feeling of you put one foot on the saddle you know and you grab that thing and then
00:39:43.520you know you hoist yourself up swing over and you're just that part I actually don't love
00:39:47.660but yeah i just yeah i guess for me it's just being on top feeling your shoulders move
00:39:55.100it's completely embodying the archetype of the cowboy wait oh you mean the being on top yeah
00:40:01.380yeah there's something about getting like girl there's something about there's a that's how i ride
00:40:08.780god you know those sexual positions really ruined like the tricks you could do on a
00:40:17.520horse because now if someone like is riding backwards on a horse it's like it's got it's0.98
00:40:24.280got a vibe to it like she's trying too hard yeah well side saddle what about side saddle first of
00:40:30.120all like that is what it's called yeah yeah we're we're we're i guess whatever method that was
00:40:36.820called like so the so the long dresses yeah yeah but first of all i feel like the skirt could be
00:40:43.220worn even straddling it imagine if you like straddle the horse and then you pull the skirt
00:40:49.480down around the back of the horse that'd be great like can you picture it like pulling it down around
00:40:54.540its butt kind of and then like yeah it would work if the skirt was voluminous enough it'd be really
00:41:00.140cozy it'd be like you and the horse that's wearing a skirt together yeah yeah well it's0.70
00:41:06.980You're going to be in one of those those horse acts, you know, two women, one horse costume, you and me.
00:41:13.820Oh, my God. That'd be great. We could do that for a POOG event.
00:41:17.400Well, that would be a big deal. That's actually. Wow.
00:41:22.360That's huge. There it is. There it is.
00:41:24.620It is. We'll say no more because while I have choreography ideas immediately, I mean, I will not speak of them because you've you've already been told too much.
00:43:01.420And back then, I lied to my parents, I lied to police, I lied to everybody.
00:43:06.860There were years, right, where I could not say your name.
00:43:09.820I've decided to go back to my hometown in Northern California, interview my friends, family, talk to police, journalists, whomever I can, to try to find out what actually happened.
00:43:18.680Isn't it a little bit weird that they obsess over hippies in the woods and not the obvious boyfriend?
00:43:23.260They have had this case for 30 years.0.95
00:43:26.020I'll teach you sons of a** to come around here and my wife. Boom, boom.0.90