Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - October 25, 2022


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00:02:35.480 Hi, I'm Kate Berlant.
00:02:36.940 I'm Jacqueline Novak.
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00:02:54.980 hi uh okay good morning good evening so this is huge guess this is my first morning back on i've
00:03:09.760 not because i rejected it but i have been off athletic greens i fell off for i don't want to
00:03:15.180 say three months this morning i'm starting back the entirety of my travel i'm starting back up
00:03:19.760 again. Cheers. Well, it's interesting you say that because yesterday I had the first athletic
00:03:25.280 greens I've had in months because I found a rogue, a rogue travel packet. What? That's weird. In my
00:03:33.760 toiletry bag, my hanging toiletry bag. And I said, you know, maybe I need something. Maybe I need
00:03:44.320 some nutrients isn't that wild yesterday and today as both um because i've wondered if i'm
00:03:51.200 getting you know my diet has been reduced to certain things that are very you know good fish
00:03:57.460 nightly fish you know etc inflammatory the pasta the bread the oil and sort of not the usual amount
00:04:05.980 maybe of i mean i get a contorny i've said this you know i get a green i get a salad okay
00:04:10.560 uh rocket is rocket is everywhere here of course the rucula i think i love i've been thinking about
00:04:18.020 rucula lately i have to say i don't think i ever updated on the pod that i got a vitamin iv drip
00:04:23.380 did you because you didn't say it or you said you were going to oh right yes i didn't say it
00:04:29.760 can you believe it so all right i didn't even say i was going to i said i wanted to first of all i
00:04:34.320 also i haven't been i think because of covid the lockdown everything i haven't had a cold in like 0.99
00:04:40.060 years by the way you got one now right can you hear it yes fuck or you got something no 0.98
00:04:48.780 here's what this is it's i woke up 30 minutes ago my voice was so dry morning sleeping next 0.99
00:04:55.140 to the humidifier but voice so dry that i want to buy when i was in new york i got a pure mist
00:05:00.680 to steam my vocal cords open up the passages heaven on earth i left it in new york i think
00:05:08.060 i'm gonna get a new one i think i'm gonna get one for la i think i need one on each coast
00:05:11.660 because my throat what you're hearing is that that raspiness that horrendous where i don't
00:05:17.600 think i actively have a cold but i'm forgetting i had a cold about a week ago colds last they can
00:05:24.860 last right well ain't that the truth i mean there's a couple days that are they're at the
00:05:31.160 height but they don't end after that it's like your life kind of becomes habituated to having
00:05:36.360 a cold i'm just looking up the pyramids to see if this oh my god this is okay here's a huge question
00:05:40.720 yeah is the pure okay i think i did have a pyramids because here's the thing about the
00:05:44.500 pyramids and correct me if i'm wrong it requires special capsules correct there it is and and
00:05:50.020 that's where i've never moved beyond the initial the initial pack i mean it's like these little
00:05:55.140 um it's very like sci-fi like they go into the glass room behind two doors and then they go
00:06:01.060 you open the thing up yeah exactly those little bullet looking things yeah and by the way that
00:06:07.660 was incredible storytelling and yes and they give you those i think they're like you know it's like
00:06:11.580 hyper distilled i don't know what the hell it is but it's water yeah yeah but they make it really
00:06:15.900 easy to put it in there i'm still on my initial capsule round but but just back to the cold because
00:06:20.920 it's been so long that i forgot that this is what people this is what a cold is right maybe two days
00:06:27.080 of like oh i actually kind of want to be in bed and then this you're hearing it in my voice
00:06:31.120 having some fatigue i almost bailed on a really um i'll just say a socially explosive dinner last
00:06:39.500 night i almost bailed on it i almost bailed on two dinners boom boom because i thought well
00:06:44.580 also i by the way i want to be clear i'm not so sick there is nothing in this world and this is
00:06:49.280 before covid there is nothing i find more repulsive than when someone shows up to something sick like
00:06:55.180 blowing their nose coughing physically visibly unwell or when you you've been spending the
00:07:01.620 evening with someone they go i'm actually going to go back i'm not i'm going to go home not feeling
00:07:05.180 well why the hell are you here with me then well i think that's the classic i mean i mean i i'm
00:07:12.860 getting out early getting out yeah yeah yeah and that's where find a new excuse power illness is
00:07:18.320 power and then manifest it's very next headache the next night god if we could lose the word
00:07:24.220 manifest wouldn't be great i mean like it entered it's stuck and it won't go away like i mean and i
00:07:30.780 love it it serves like just the word the word serves so many different purposes but it's just
00:07:36.600 hell to use you mean you mean that it's so it's so defined between the kind of culture yes yes
00:07:43.860 certainly that meme culture of like i'm manifesting my fucking oh yeah ever yeah yeah and it's a very 0.88
00:07:51.520 like irritating word that you know first hit the big leagues for me in school with 0.95
00:07:57.680 talk of manifest destiny you're sort of like what like and then and then like you hear about
00:08:03.320 and this is that and then there's sort of like later on you're like well such and such made
00:08:07.280 manifest by so there's this sort of made manifest by period and then there's there's there's you
00:08:13.860 know um success literature and and and that whole world and it's just and it's sort of like
00:08:19.820 there are those who are successful while using the word manifest and there are those who aren't
00:08:26.160 and i'm not saying they're not using the same principles okay but there are those who you're
00:08:31.220 using the jargon i've manifested a snorkeling trip among other things yeah no i i mean no no
00:08:38.820 we've been manifesting since the 80s yeah who are you talking to okay i quite literally um
00:08:45.480 but what are you manifesting anyway so the cold stuff is huge yesterday i i went to air one ran
00:08:53.880 into a pook hag actually and i was in the middle of what happened for me
00:08:59.220 running into a hag at air one at any oh you've been to air one like eight times max excuse me 0.57
00:09:08.420 I live by an Erewhon.
00:09:09.920 I live by an Erewhon.
00:09:10.740 Are you there a lot? 0.52
00:09:12.940 I mean, what? 1.00
00:09:13.560 Whole Foods is trash for the hags. 1.00
00:09:16.060 Ralph's is trash for the hags. 1.00
00:09:17.500 I mean, they're everywhere. 1.00
00:09:19.580 Absolutely not.
00:09:21.000 But Erewhon is practically like a nightclub.
00:09:23.520 All I'm saying is I feel I am unrecognizable.
00:09:27.400 Okay, there's something in me that people just don't claw.
00:09:31.280 They see me and they go, plain Jane.
00:09:34.360 I don't think so.
00:09:35.300 I think it's the gag.
00:09:37.280 i think it's actually regional what you're what you're describing i see but but yeah but i'll just
00:09:44.760 want to say that i had a my first it was a shot that had a few things in it but one of the main
00:09:49.720 ingredients was wheatgrass do you remember when wheatgrass was the limit was it was everything
00:09:55.020 ceiling of health in the culture because i remember it was the event horizon i'll never
00:10:01.280 forget and i think this is origin of who of poog in some way was after school snack my mom would
00:10:06.620 take me to jamba juice like every day sorry so i'm going back to being a child at jamba juice
00:10:11.380 and watching them shave down the wheatgrass because they they offered a wheatgrass shot
00:10:15.440 at jamba juice okay this is when jamba juice when you say shave down i'm sorry when they trim when
00:10:21.500 they trim the hedges of wheatgrass so yes when they yeah they trim the hedges it's very because
00:10:27.680 they trim it to get the to take it and move it into the yeah yeah to grind it down juicer and
00:10:33.200 And I remember being a child at Jamba Juice, kind of captivated by Jamba Juice and watching
00:10:38.800 them clip the wheatgrass and the smell of it and being, and, and asking for a wheatgrass
00:10:43.500 shot, which as a child was bizarre.
00:10:45.960 You don't want that.
00:10:47.000 It's grass. 1.00
00:10:47.660 No, the, the other girls, the other girls want razzmatazz. 1.00
00:10:50.740 Red hots and bubble gum and yum, yum.
00:10:54.240 And I, I also have a haunted memory of wanting a kiwi berry burner, which was the weight
00:11:00.120 loss Jamba Juice smoothie because.
00:11:02.040 burner burner because it was like something about it was praising like and it has
00:11:05.980 it something about it wasn't just like weight loss was like it had something else in it that
00:11:10.440 was extra so whatever yeah well just the berry booster just the idea of a child being like the
00:11:17.980 idea of like a 40 pound child being like the cutie berry burner please and a wheatgrass shot yeah it's
00:11:22.400 like horrifying but that's not all i ever got and like let's keep it yeah let's keep these fires
00:11:28.020 some of my metabolism burning. I mean, words like boost, right? Like, like the, the, the presence of
00:11:33.460 a word like boost in this world. Okay. They're like, they're like, it's a, it's a metabolism
00:11:38.060 booster. They're like, they're like, yeah, boosts metabolism. Like boost is the most like
00:11:45.160 unclaimable, you know what I mean? Like a boost, like it can mean anything. We all know, you know,
00:11:51.580 but, but anyway, I just, I just was briefly taken with the word boost. Okay. I don't blame you.
00:11:58.020 metabolism boosts and i'm thinking of well speaking of boosts i'll just say it weeks and
00:12:04.800 weeks ago i was in the middle of my of my run i got really run down like there was like a day i
00:12:09.880 was like am i getting covid am i getting cold what is this yes i thought really run down which
00:12:13.760 makes complete sense which is also sometimes it's like no you're just run down because of course
00:12:16.960 you're run down you know whatever the point is a dear friend your favorite thing i say
00:12:22.600 gifted me an IV drip so I did it so now I see how she ended up in the chair so that's how I got the
00:12:31.920 chair so I'm in there and by the way hated the experience I really didn't like it I didn't like
00:12:36.720 the needle of it all of course sitting there the bag it's going into your arm you kind of feel it
00:12:41.620 your arm is cold really creepy to me I of course had images images of all the infections I was
00:12:46.840 getting in the air bubble going into the vein you know anything just somehow i was like i'm doing an
00:12:52.460 iv like a cosmetic iv this is horrible right and then afterwards i didn't i still felt i mean i'm
00:12:58.920 talking about immediately afterwards i felt the same of course and i'm looking at my arm with like
00:13:02.520 the bandage and i just really felt gross woke up in the middle of the night to pee rose from the
00:13:09.000 bed middle of night i went i feel amazing i was like i'm fine now next day i'm not gonna say i
00:13:16.500 was a hundred percent but oh oh was i improved and that's it wow and by the way i'm sitting here
00:13:24.940 right here and i'm thinking am i gonna get one today am i gonna do a i'm gonna run down because
00:13:31.340 well you're in los angeles now and now there's one on every corner and that's the thing i don't
00:13:36.880 want to go to a smoothie shop and get an iv drip that freaks me out i want to go somewhere i want
00:13:41.500 i mean i guess there are nurses that are doing it there too well that's yeah i know i saw a place
00:13:47.900 i mean you can you can suss it out i mean but you know a needle in the arms a needle in the arm
00:13:53.060 i mean at least at the smoothie shop okay they're afraid like they know they're a smoothie shop and
00:13:59.220 so they're like we better not fuck this up or we're the smoothie shop job giving people disease
00:14:03.720 we're over at the hospital right perhaps they're a little overconfident this is a medical facility
00:14:10.620 i'm wearing my medical wear and so they're just staring off across the room flirting with the
00:14:16.840 other nurse tech and next thing you know into your arm goes the bubble oh also um yeah but then of
00:14:26.800 course and then we'll move off it but i'll just say i got the iv and then i was googling iv and
00:14:32.260 all this and the nutri drip yeah of course there's like there's absolutely no proof if this does
00:14:36.360 anything we get vitamins through food through whatever like there's been no actual trial there's
00:14:42.080 been no there's no there's been no proof that this actually where are the dreamers i say where
00:14:46.860 are the dreamers well exactly well exactly and that's why uninterested in hearing like that's
00:14:52.740 why i want to go today well you know what it's like it kind of reminds me of i was very pleased
00:14:57.900 because so i've i google you know the other day maybe after we spoke about i don't know but i'm
00:15:03.800 like microbiome i forgot all about it i haven't been taking those probiotics that i got really
00:15:07.460 pumped about okay okay really pumped about months back i was like i'm committed i believe so i needed
00:15:12.740 like a research article to to re stimulate the interest so i google like you know microbiome
00:15:19.580 and cravings and whatever and i don't know how to tell you it's worse and better than we thought
00:15:24.720 okay okay they're lit and i'll stop saying they because it's repulsive okay it's too disturbing
00:15:30.300 i'm just gonna say the microbiome like it's an organ because actually some of them are calling
00:15:34.220 it an organ now its own organ here we go okay so they're like literally like and this is like
00:15:40.820 these are articles from like 2019 okay this is not even new like like they know uh the microbiome
00:15:49.500 and and the species there okay they are absolutely manipulating us as hosts okay
00:15:56.740 1 000 and directly so so and we know this in other things there's this whole thing blah blah
00:16:03.400 i'm gonna get it wrong but serotonin in the gut yes more serotonin in the gut than the brain
00:16:08.440 is that true yes can't be more i mean it's something like that but but let's just but
00:16:14.020 the second brain thing that they say it almost like sounds like it's like okay interesting yeah
00:16:18.240 but like am i really thinking from there i don't know it's like but when they say it like this
00:16:22.200 okay when they say like like that whatever those chemicals are produced there so literally here's
00:16:27.960 what we need a diversified microbiome okay here's what we need diversified if one of them the one
00:16:33.180 that loves sugar gets in the majority okay it it one starts releasing toxins to to suppress the
00:16:42.500 other ones so that it can have a majority okay and two it sends out like receptors mega vibes
00:16:49.760 keep going okay so well it's even more disturbing so so they they well two pieces so first they send
00:17:01.340 out stuff that makes you crave you know the sugar that they want whatever they like to eat
00:17:06.140 okay literally they send out the cravings okay so once again it's another article thank god
00:17:12.140 someone's finally saying it's not sloth it's not gluttony of course not okay it's not that your
00:17:16.520 friend, you know, Sherry is, is more, has more self-control than you. She has a different
00:17:25.140 microbiome and she's acting like she's closer to God because of it when she's not. Okay. Okay. And 0.72
00:17:31.240 so, you know, it's a whole thing. Okay. They change, they can change like the receptors on
00:17:35.700 your tongue for taste. So they do this experiment with these mice. Always with the mice. Well,
00:17:39.500 first of all, there's a whole thing about these mice. Okay. The tox, I know, but the toxic plasmosa,
00:17:43.780 blah blah blah okay i'm just gonna just try to say it without saying i don't have a perfect but
00:17:47.500 the point is there are these mice that get sexually turned on um you know by the smell of cat pee okay
00:17:53.220 in there and this is created by the by the by the toxic by this uh thing in them okay which wants
00:18:01.680 which survives best in the cat's belly so it wants to get the cat's belly so so the the toxoplasmosa
00:18:07.540 in the in the mouse's belly wants to get eaten by a cat so it makes that mouse attracted to
00:18:13.000 cat urine scent and then they endanger themselves and they get where they want to go inside the
00:18:17.520 cat's belly. Okay. And it's sending me to the Snickers. That's all I'll say. It's sending me
00:18:21.600 back to, oh, I love sourdough. Okay. And I think I'm really, uh, you know, I have sophisticated
00:18:26.440 taste, whatever. Okay. Oh, Italy, gelato. Meanwhile, meanwhile, it's just trying to send
00:18:31.280 me to the, you know, so there's a self-forgiveness involved, which is, it's not me. It's them.
00:18:37.100 Good. It's them. And then there's a, and I'm going to take control. So here's the other thing
00:18:42.580 that's disturbing not okay if they get a majority they're more able to are you ready this is a real
00:18:48.800 term form a quorum okay okay and now when they reach a certain like level of control or they're
00:18:56.460 big enough or whatever they have big enough army they're able to sort of think as one mind in a way
00:19:01.520 they're not able to do when there's less of them and they can coordinate more elaborate campaigns
00:19:07.160 onto controlling you and your body puppet master are the campaigns always straight sugar yeah
00:19:14.500 the ones i'm reading about are okay because because that's but but it's no but it's everything
00:19:20.460 and it's you know and you can change the receptors so now these mice don't crave blah blah blah
00:19:25.100 okay the point is like the articles are there all you have to do is google you know cravings
00:19:29.980 microbiome or are they in control okay they are they are but there's an answer diversify the
00:19:38.800 microbiome okay i mean this is where this is what happens okay you understand i read the article
00:19:44.520 purple cabbage yes okay all of it well you know they say kimchi they say the whole thing
00:19:49.980 colors whatever and you know and a you know serious probiotic so then i lock in probiotic
00:19:55.140 is god or whatever right i go it's it's what we need of course i've locked that in years ago
00:19:59.340 meanwhile don't take one right yeah exactly this is what i'm trying to say so so i read the
00:20:03.700 research to re-stimulate the determination right but then i forget the reasoning behind and then
00:20:09.940 it becomes kind of just a slogan in my head gotta get on a probiotic it means nothing yeah and then 0.88
00:20:15.600 i i lose it away so i'm just saying i'm not fucking around anymore and you're about about 0.64
00:20:21.660 what though the probiotic all of it so i have actually reached out to viome on behalf of us 0.89
00:20:27.960 I don't know if you, I think, and I think they're coming through.
00:20:30.920 They're going to send samples to the whole team because I won't have anyone
00:20:35.900 on this team, you know, not checked with the screaming biome.
00:20:40.980 Yeah. So, so it will be, and then they can tell you like, you know,
00:20:45.000 they can tell you what's who's in charge and what you might want to avoid and
00:20:49.960 what's going on. Oh, we'll tell you who's in charge.
00:20:52.520 I'm taking back control, which is where I saw an article,
00:20:56.600 headline said does your self-care routine need a bit more what do they say use a dose they're like
00:21:03.040 need a dose of self-discipline you know they're like they're like we're drowning in self-love
00:21:07.660 over here in the culture folks yeah we're drowning yeah we're drowning i mean and yet are we right i
00:21:15.460 mean right no yeah and yet are we we're not actually i guess well right we're no no no i
00:21:21.240 think I think what we are saying is completely right and and uh it is and if it hasn't yet but
00:21:29.140 stated no but I think what we're saying is that um get a job confusing self get a job self-love
00:21:36.660 and pleasure exactly it's a dangerous game so where does self-discipline come in this has been
00:21:43.460 a new question for me you know I've been thinking about we talk about pleasure we talk about pleasure
00:21:46.860 and I was thinking I'm changing I actually was imagining us talking like being like you know
00:21:50.360 okay i'm done i was like i'm done with pleasure now maybe this is the eat pray love you know
00:21:55.660 i've i've eaten and now it's time to pray going to yeah yeah it's me like time to come home from
00:22:01.200 from from not bali you know italy i think it was all a lot of pleasure by the way her kind of being
00:22:07.580 like no more it's like well bali's the one where you're being right where you're disciplined yeah
00:22:13.560 well no that's not that was love no oh that's right anyway i mean she was up for like seven
00:22:19.020 hours praying and that's true in uh the ashram i mean regardless of where she is yeah you know
00:22:24.640 getting up early oh by the way and i want to say because there was a recent poog episode where i
00:22:28.300 was talking about that scene where where her father yes and and someone recently was talking
00:22:33.640 about you pray love and i brought up that scene and i brought up that moment and they were like
00:22:37.860 that really was strange that he didn't run over the kid that they made it so that he almost ran
00:22:43.580 over the kid they agreed is what you're saying they agreed and i just want to say i still think
00:22:47.920 it smells of a reshoot it was either a reshoot or they shot both they shot both versions and
00:22:53.860 they were too scared i mean i can't i read the book and i can't remember i gotta i gotta find
00:22:58.680 out we gotta reach out to elizabeth gilbert and ask her yeah it might be an indirect path
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00:27:18.260 Oh, I also have a huge announcement.
00:27:20.740 Yeah?
00:27:21.000 well one of them is that i think i actually have to do the forbidden and go blow my nose you're
00:27:25.360 hearing this yeah this is this is have you ever in your life heard my voice like this it's the
00:27:31.400 morning combined with the after effects of the cold i guess it's kind of yeah it's kind of
00:27:36.280 comforting it's kind of wintry it's kind of like um the winter in the suburbs you know
00:27:42.040 feeling to me but yeah why don't you go blow it ew i'll be right back just do it and do it quick
00:27:49.180 I'll do it so fast.
00:27:50.780 Do it fast and do it loud.
00:27:53.740 We all want to hear it.
00:27:57.140 The fact that Kate Berlant sits in
00:27:59.180 and what appears to be, whether it's real or not,
00:28:02.120 and I think it is real.
00:28:02.840 I think she got it off of, got it secondhand.
00:28:05.660 An Aeron, classic Aeron.
00:28:08.040 An Armand Miller Aeron chair.
00:28:11.260 I think it would shock the listeners.
00:28:14.420 Perhaps they've seen it before.
00:28:16.940 Perhaps not.
00:28:17.740 And I'm back. 0.91
00:28:18.360 and i i just do mute because we didn't hear shit i didn't mute i didn't mute i even was thinking 0.58
00:28:23.540 is it going to be in the distance okay i want to quickly just say i have two huge life announcements 0.91
00:28:28.200 okay yes that's a little dramatic but no it's not okay listen today something here at poog
00:28:33.080 headquarters at my personal poog headquarters my home sorry the church bells are ringing i am
00:28:40.780 I'm so excited. I could hardly, I could hardly say the words. I'm getting a water filtration
00:28:49.020 system installed under my sink. Okay. So listen to this. It's finally happening. Oh my God.
00:28:53.940 So, so, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, something else huge happened. Okay. I come back from New York
00:28:59.240 where I have been. And you know what? I know what's coming and I have a lot to say about this
00:29:05.280 because it's absolutely laughable you know you know all right now go ahead go ahead let's hear
00:29:10.680 it okay I know what you're gonna say I know I know okay listen two things two things one I had
00:29:16.900 a real dependence on plastic in New York on plastic water okay yes and every time I bought
00:29:21.880 a plastic water bottle I thought well you deserve so good job yes I mean I was so filled with loathing
00:29:29.340 and I did over explanation to everyone who saw me doing it I was like oh my god right like random
00:29:33.960 people the boat yes your head is tilted to the side to the point to 90 degrees also there was
00:29:39.620 yeah yeah yeah yeah so then i come and the aqua true i can't do it anymore and we'll get into it 0.91
00:29:48.360 you can't clean it you refuse to clean i can't with the with the moss with the green scum that
00:29:53.600 grows on the inside doesn't if you use it as i do like it literally doesn't so i just don't don't
00:30:00.100 don't like don't besmirch their name okay okay i'm not i'm not disparaging you're right okay
00:30:06.080 you're completely right i'm not i don't have the i don't have i don't have the boss to do it okay
00:30:13.480 how dare you say moss and their name in the same sentence all right go on i just simply don't have
00:30:19.640 the discipline okay so then it's happening i have a friend who recommended the system
00:30:24.620 and it's coming and oh this was a huge moment and i wonder when you say it's coming and you
00:30:29.960 better mean i bought it because today they're installing in two hours you're using suspicious
00:30:34.640 language you're distancing yourself for purchase and so here it is uh something tells me something
00:30:41.160 is amiss they're coming in two hours did you ask for it no did you ask for it for free and you're
00:30:47.320 trying to know i paid in full i'm paying in full all right just checking and then here's a big
00:30:52.840 question there was two tiers there was one tier which was the like reverse like five time triple
00:30:57.820 osmosis and then there was an alkaline one which jumped in many hundreds i decided against the
00:31:02.600 alkaline i repeat i said i decided against the alkaline the alkaline is adding minerals
00:31:06.660 the opposite imagine the opposite so alkaline is that's the danger that they say of drinking
00:31:13.840 alkaline only is that you you have so much mineral depletion and that they even say that if you're
00:31:19.260 because and people even recommend if you're drinking a lot of alkaline water that you add
00:31:22.820 trace minerals back into the water so i decided against the alkaline saved a few hundred bucks 0.96
00:31:27.360 and I'm going with the with the with the reverse osmosis whatever the fuck and it's going to be 0.97
00:31:31.900 here in my sink coming out of the spigot by the way I live in fear that he's going to get here 0.99
00:31:36.200 and go oh the sink is too old you know like whatever I can't do this because my kitchen
00:31:41.000 like whatever it's coming okay so this was this is a huge moment for me okay and then I was reading
00:31:47.480 about microplastic last night as I as I fell asleep apparently I'm ingesting on credit cards
00:31:51.320 worth a week at least oh I bet it's more I bet it's more particularly when I was in New York
00:31:57.160 drinking those essentials and so then god and then i i came home from new york and i i kept
00:32:05.780 this detail i didn't want to get into it but let's just say the moths are back okay let's just say i
00:32:10.240 came back yeah so and let's just say hold on let's just say i hear that and i go but how can that be
00:32:17.580 when the moths have come up a good three times on poog in separate occasions uh minimum two um 0.99
00:32:23.800 and each time I've said, stop fucking around. Have you called a guy? And so I'm going, how 0.99
00:32:29.820 after three, three visits, two to three visits now from an exterminator, could the moth still
00:32:35.380 be a problem? And what, what's the news? And then I told Jacqueline, well, I never called
00:32:39.960 the guy. Okay. So how dare you complain? No, no. I have to say something. I'm here to praise
00:32:46.140 poison because, because I, the first time around I was at, I got rid of it myself. I mean, I just,
00:32:51.600 the rug was the rug was we all saw it if you were on the poog instagram you saw it on stories the 0.95
00:32:56.460 larva dancing at noon yeah i really didn't appreciate you posting that okay okay the rug
00:33:01.460 was thrown out the rug was thrown out it was it was beyond i came home here's a question
00:33:06.160 it wasn't that bad no larva no larva you find the source you find the source you've only found and
00:33:14.900 you throw out the source you've only found the source not what came from the source i know i
00:33:18.380 the fact you thought you were okay is embarrassing i want to say one thing too which is just the
00:33:22.800 blessing that they're not in my closet which i still can't believe my luck not a single moth
00:33:26.540 in the closets thank god so what i did is i came home i arrived from the airport i get the house
00:33:31.160 11 p.m i look over at the rug oh cool i see about i'd say 12 different rug and my new rug my
00:33:38.880 moroccan wonderful rug i see about 12 to 18 live moths flopping around the rug i go okay and i go
00:33:45.940 i'm calm i grab the vacuum i start vacuuming them up i put the vacuum oh cool another self
00:33:50.760 self-service another um another diy wait what do you mean just you oh the diy job no no no
00:34:00.140 here i'm you're about to be proud you're about to be proud i made a list when i got home i said
00:34:06.620 what do i have to do i said moths water pillows that's coming haven't done that yet need some
00:34:12.340 new pillows okay anyway the point is i called a guy okay and i go and i start going oh god what's
00:34:18.540 the poison did it i go you're getting it and that's it and i talked to him on the phone i'm
00:34:23.180 like so is it toxic they're like well you know you got to leave for like an hour because after
00:34:28.300 it dries you're fine but we don't recommend you being in the house inhaling it directly while
00:34:32.480 it's fine don't we don't like pets to be on it while it's wet because yeah the guy comes he
00:34:37.880 sprays by the way this was the big moment lifts up the couch i thought that was going to be
00:34:41.420 festering hellfire under the couch yeah it was fine no larva there were a few flopping around
00:34:46.000 thank god yeah he sprays the poison i leave and open i open the windows i turned on my blue air
00:34:51.960 air purifier hi blue air i take another one i leave i come back when i tell you haven't seen
00:34:58.840 a moth in days and by the way trying to break up the egg cycle it doesn't mean another won't hatch
00:35:03.700 but every day i walk in this room i look at my carpet and i go we're gonna be okay and here's
00:35:10.520 wait did you schedule another appointment to break up the cycle within 20 weeks yeah is that
00:35:15.500 on the calendar if it's not no i signed up for the quarterly it's like every other month they're 0.97
00:35:19.540 coming out to make sure all right all right all right thank you and by the way i had no fucking 0.85
00:35:24.140 clue this was all about i can't can't believe this was a fear of poison i'm literally shocked 0.54
00:35:28.540 no there's fear of poison but listen to this all right listen to this but did i already talk about
00:35:33.380 the guy trying to scam me the moth guy trying to scam me a different company i called because i
00:35:37.080 did the thing where i was in a panic and i googled like moths la same day and then this company i
00:35:43.360 called them something was weird because they started doing this the woman goes well a lot
00:35:49.180 of other companies will just schedule for you one or two but we really want to break up the cycle
00:35:52.480 and we really want to make sure that the moths are gone so what we're going to do is we have you on
00:35:56.100 it it started it was like a little bit of a hard sell i was like okay okay i was like well i rent
00:36:01.000 um you know whatever the point is i'm talking about that she goes i'm going to connect you to
00:36:06.740 my supervisor this guy gets on hey we want we want to give you a good deal here um so what we're
00:36:11.760 gonna do he starts coming with all the good deals he's gonna give me i'm like all right yes he says
00:36:16.800 okay so we're gonna come here i'm gonna send you over the contract you just sign that send it back
00:36:20.480 i was like sounds a little weird i get off the phone i schedule it i get off the phone i immediately
00:36:24.540 google this company yelp do not scam they're spraying something weird to keep the bugs coming
00:36:30.460 back they will not no no truly they were like this is your view after review scam scam don't
00:36:36.980 hire them scam hands practically shaking i call back and i just i go i'm not gonna get in the
00:36:41.300 fight i just go hey i'm actually not gonna do it did you say i heard you're a scam no but i was
00:36:47.380 planning to if they continue to persist because they called me back the next day i just blocked
00:36:51.200 i just blocked i said i'm not getting into it yeah and i'm just to say i gave them my credit
00:36:55.560 card number so i'm checking my credit card statement to make sure i don't have a
00:36:58.700 uh talk about an egg retrieval of retrieving the egg mobs that
00:37:03.380 anyway the point is the point is the poison worked the the water's happening and i want
00:37:10.560 new pillows okay that's the base that's where it is back on athletic greens
00:37:14.600 that might get a vitamin drip today had the hydrofacial
00:37:18.100 oh soaring had an incredible facial i'll just say this i have i have not gone to a
00:37:27.060 dermatologist for a facial in years going to the dermatologist cutting out the spa experience i
00:37:33.420 don't need the lotion on my hands i don't need the dim room yeah i don't need the lavender i don't
00:37:38.040 want it i'm talking about a 30 minute facial it took maybe 30 minutes 0.89
00:37:42.220 fucking glowing the next two days hydrofacial no downtime unbelievable is it the brand hydrofacial 0.81
00:37:49.300 like as in that device because hydrofacial is a brand with a specific device and they offer it 0.97
00:37:55.660 in certain uh places yeah hydrafacial that's what it is then it's that thing that like like
00:38:01.340 shoots the fluid in and then sucks it out and they're like this is your goblet of hell from
00:38:07.240 your face yeah well it was a little bit that it felt like a little wand that they're like
00:38:11.240 scraping a little bit yeah but i mean did they like show you a jug at the end like this is no
00:38:16.340 i know that thing i've had that thing where they suck it's like the vacuum this wasn't really that
00:38:20.740 this was so i was moved they said the words hydrafacial what they said the words hydrafacial
00:38:27.520 yes now i didn't know that you could just call up the derm and say can i get a facial
00:38:34.280 well you sure can let me tell you is that los angeles serious and they're fast and they go here
00:38:40.780 you go and then i said and by the way i said to and this is when you're really going to get excited
00:38:44.380 jacklyn listen up to this i'm in the chair i go it's really time for me to start integrating
00:38:49.180 retinol i think and vitamin c she goes i've got what you got to get she recommended this and and
00:38:56.200 i'll say this the dr dennis gross under eye skin firming lifting vitamin c serum i'm gonna rebuy
00:39:01.660 it i swear to god wow under the eye it's great i and i'm i'm using and i've also been using the
00:39:07.300 the point is the oil the oil sorry yeah the vitamin c oil which felt too heavy for me i've
00:39:12.680 been using it nightly post sun here how do you feel about it well it's the only thing i mean
00:39:18.660 i've been barely taking care of my skin and i haven't really been looking at but i just mean
00:39:21.480 i've been i've been running into it as a savior nightly so well she gave me i'm i love that stuff
00:39:26.780 i'm trying that she she gave me sent me home with a skin suiticles which is a whole world that we
00:39:31.340 have yet to really even talk about yeah but the trust is there for me send me one of those well
00:39:37.280 a brand name that's sort of hideous you have to trust exactly it's like the biology you're like
00:39:42.880 suiticals yeah it sort of sounds gross so it does sound like with a name like smuckers it's got to 0.98
00:39:49.460 be good shit like that i i adore uh god that really worked on me of course because it should 0.97
00:39:58.960 oh it really they weren't afraid to say it they weren't not it reminds me of this billboard in 0.98
00:40:03.660 brooklyn it was like forget it was a specific kind of paint like literally like house paint
00:40:08.620 or something but they were like we are frankly the best and it was like okay it was like fabulous 0.99
00:40:15.700 i'm like good for them like like they're like look we're not gonna fuck the fuck around here like 0.98
00:40:19.640 we're the best oh that's fun and they're like like let us be frank yeah yeah we're the best 0.97
00:40:26.760 like we've held off saying it we haven't wanted to be rude to our competitors but everyone sometimes
00:40:31.180 you have to ask is advertising the only art that remains i mean it's a bold it's a bold statement
00:40:35.400 but it's not a it's not a but it feels fun to say it does feel fun to say and it feels fun to know
00:40:39.900 that it's absolutely true it's the only method we have of expression anymore they're the only
00:40:45.640 ones who aren't uh pretending not to be involved in the commercial pursuit yeah well there there
00:40:52.500 it is there i mean i make it up i you know go on so skinceuticals that vitamin c i'm going to start
00:40:59.740 integrating i'm going to finish my dentist gross that i've been using and then she gave me a retinal
00:41:04.020 it's like a she goes it's a retinoid couldn't don't can't tell you the difference because
00:41:09.440 I haven't gone I have a couple things to say I know I'm excited no I know you're scared so first
00:41:13.600 of all she said and here's it here comes a big drop that I'm gonna I'm gonna cushion this news
00:41:18.100 in the news of this which is she goes here's the retinoid it's like in a moisturizer my gorgeous
00:41:23.320 friend said oh I love that stuff I use that I'm like well if she uses it I'm good oh she said
00:41:28.200 start with this little amount every other night start integrating just a little bit see how you
00:41:32.220 react. I went, well, I'm going to Kauai next week. So I'm going to have a joke. This is me
00:41:40.580 revealing to you and the listeners. I'm going to Kauai next week. And I say, you're squinting. And
00:41:46.860 I say, so I'm going to have unusual amount of sun exposure for five days. I'm not interested.
00:41:51.500 Maybe I start. I'm not interested in your sun exposure or your, um, or, or anything you're
00:41:58.560 saying okay that you think you can sneak are you upset when i when i've had to hear for months
00:42:03.540 months yeah all you want to do is snorkel with me okay plan a snorkel trip with me well it's true
00:42:09.120 to do to do to do to do and then oh you know this and then all of a sudden buried inside of an
00:42:16.860 anecdote she's headed to kawaii and you expect me to what did you expect this this oh yeah well if
00:42:23.520 You're going to be in Kauai next week.
00:42:27.340 Do you think it would just slip down the gullet of my consciousness?
00:42:31.480 Well, no, because I said it was a huge announcement coming.
00:42:35.140 Yeah.
00:42:35.620 You know what, though?
00:42:36.240 It was more like, oops, it's about to fly out in the context of this other thing.
00:42:40.320 No, when I started, I said I have two huge life announcements.
00:42:42.880 One was that I'm getting water installed.
00:42:44.200 The other was that I'm going to Kauai.
00:42:46.460 That was it?
00:42:47.740 Yeah.
00:42:48.180 I thought it was going to be that, you know, the moths were back.
00:42:50.440 I mean, look, you've done nothing wrong, okay?
00:42:52.780 you've done a thing wrong okay you plan a trip you have a good time I'll turn around and go
00:42:57.080 right back to quiet with you but yeah I'm unlimited I have a break before I get back to work
00:43:01.360 and I always claim that sort of thing I've done it myself I'll go you know I'm going for lunch
00:43:07.040 yes but I'll go back for dinner actually though I have gone back for dinner so
00:43:09.740 no I just need a moment to grieve um you know to think to think here in but Jacqueline you've
00:43:21.200 in italy i considered not italy going snorkeling because i was worried it would make you sad to do
00:43:28.140 without you is that true i don't know i feel like hurling it at you i feel like hurling it at you
00:43:32.500 it did occur to me it did occur to me anyway wait let me just pull it back this is a classic moment
00:43:38.940 in a friendship where i have to pull it back and now i go no but anyway i'm super jolly but
00:43:44.500 That's amazing that you're going to Kauai.
00:43:46.660 Tell me everything.
00:43:49.900 When I wish to know nothing, why would I want to know any of it?
00:43:53.940 Well, I think we both know that if I had said,
00:43:56.700 let's go to Kauai in the next two weeks, you would not have gone.
00:43:59.940 Because I'm away.
00:44:01.180 Exactly.
00:44:03.320 Yeah, so you set me up to fail before I...
00:44:07.980 I didn't see a realistic...
00:44:09.720 You owe no explanation.
00:44:11.260 I'm just...
00:44:12.600 You owe nothing.
00:44:13.340 you owe nothing i've been jealous of you being in italy
00:44:16.820 you haven't said a word okay okay you haven't said a word you've lacked interest
00:44:22.260 well you practically moved you've been there for two months
00:44:27.220 i'm just waiting for a good flight deal i can't go home until the until the flight price is lower
00:44:35.220 i'm well the point is i'm going to hawaii i'm going to kawaii and i'm already trying to gun
00:44:43.460 for the free upgrade i don't even know if i should say that on air because i was going to email
00:44:47.660 the resort free upgrade in what context well okay so i'm going with my girl and i was like am i
00:44:54.840 gonna say i was like what if we say it's our honeymoon like no it can't do that because 0.97
00:44:59.260 that's too easily that is that is bad karmically i believe no no i think that's shit i think you're 0.99
00:45:03.980 right it's ugly it's ugly business okay okay okay i i i don't know what it is yeah it strikes me 0.97
00:45:10.160 wrong no no i decided not to i decided not to so instead i'm just going full honesty and i'm just
00:45:13.820 hoping for the best and i'm and we booked it last minute so i know what rooms are available
00:45:17.980 did the partial ocean view gunning for the full ocean view and i think when we get there i'm just
00:45:23.160 gonna turn on the charm and go god you know is there any is there any world of an upgrade
00:45:27.280 do a little song and dance if i hear if the word honeymoon slips out it's not going to it's not
00:45:33.880 going to i promise i promise i promise because i think you know i'm not going to say that i mean
00:45:40.960 yeah but but you know you could certainly say anniversary oh wow no i don't i don't believe
00:45:50.180 that these conditions in your life are what get you an upgrade also they smell it they smell it
00:45:57.040 a mile away somebody going in there going it's our you know what i mean they're used to this
00:46:01.180 well so that's not how it works it's like it's your anniversary so you booked a trip here it's
00:46:05.080 not you're not like you're not it's not like it's my anniversary and i'm about to starve to death on
00:46:09.700 the street will you give me a crumb of bread yes like yes like it's like i just i i think it's
00:46:15.640 it's sort of i think it's better to go like i'm gonna take pictures and put it on my
00:46:20.820 my instagram account for my podcast 100 very interested in travel and that's and i'm going
00:46:26.200 to do sometimes people upgrade me as a result because they want the better picture
00:46:29.620 i don't know like why not go for it and be like i'm going for it like
00:46:33.340 i mean why not at least just be like yeah like god you're good at least just be like yeah um
00:46:40.100 but i don't know like i almost just think there's something better about that do you think do you
00:46:45.020 think i should email them from the poog official poog gmail and say and speak of myself in the
00:46:51.540 third person pretend it's not me and say i'm coming and for a romantic getaway and that i'm
00:46:58.180 very open to discussing it on the pod by the way i am excited this is this should i just
00:47:04.140 go in a no no no okay that would be cut okay or bleep it you know you have me for my own privacy
00:47:14.400 oh oh to wait oh yeah well sure okay no i mean to wait and say like genius i said i was going
00:47:20.040 in hawaii everyone's very excited about it okay here's where i'm going no i'm saying and you no
00:47:27.640 no you tell the place what are you looking at me better be me so i was looking at my quick time
00:47:33.800 your eyes fell i got scared for a second i thought it wasn't recording it is
00:47:37.700 um so it looked a little still look a little still yeah so no i think you need to say um
00:47:45.820 on the podcast you spoke about how i'm coming to a resort in hawaii and i'm excited about it
00:47:49.980 whatever i'd love to name you by name yeah i mean i i don't mean it i i mean people might
00:47:58.220 find this disgusting i don't know what to call it but a common barter yeah i know absolutely
00:48:05.300 but or not even that an absolute common trade and by the way like like in italy i've like reached
00:48:11.620 out to a couple places that are like these spa places and and they say like we we don't do any
00:48:16.660 kind of like trades with you know influencers i scream of course you're used to you know horrified
00:48:21.380 by the idea influencer so i'm no such thing but but one of peabody yeah still waiting waiting
00:48:30.660 I'm still waiting for the acknowledgement.
00:48:36.500 Hello, it's me, Anna Sinfield, from The Girlfriends,
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00:50:38.040 and I have a new podcast called The Red Weather.
00:50:40.580 It was many and many a year ago
00:50:43.580 in a kingdom by the sea.
00:50:45.960 In 1995, my neighbor, Anna Trainor,
00:50:48.520 disappeared from a commune.
00:50:49.780 It was hard to wrap your head around.
00:50:51.140 It was nature and trees and praying and drugs.
00:50:54.420 so no i am not your guru and back then i lied to my parents i lied to police i lied to everybody
00:51:03.240 there were years right where i could not say your name i've decided to go back to my hometown in
00:51:08.100 northern california interview my friends family talk to police journalists whomever i can to try
00:51:13.200 to find out what actually happened isn't it a little bit weird that they obsess over hippies
00:51:17.720 in the woods and not the obvious boyfriend they have had this case for 30 years i'll teach you 0.99
00:51:23.480 Sons of bitches come around here and my wife. 1.00
00:51:25.800 Boom, boom. 1.00
00:51:27.120 This is The Red Weather.
00:51:30.100 Listen to The Red Weather on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
00:51:36.880 The more you listen to your kids, the closer you'll be.
00:51:40.860 So we asked kids, what do you want your parents to hear?
00:51:44.880 I feel sometimes that I'm not listened to.
00:51:47.020 I would just want you to listen to me more often and evaluate situations with me and lead me towards success.
00:51:53.480 Listening is a form of love.
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00:52:11.040 He is edgy. He's fun. He is Chase Matthews.
00:52:14.340 Keith Urban helped make him a global sensation last year, but it's his recent number one hit, Darling, that put Chase on the map
00:52:20.140 and launched a fun and difficult conversation about lovers who cheat and lie.
00:52:25.400 That's why I'm scared to get married. You're giving me trust issues, brother.
00:52:28.300 Crook and Chase Nashville Chats with Chase Matthew.
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00:52:41.860 Well, huge question. I mean, do you wake up with back pain, neck aches, a crook in the neck?
00:52:46.920 No.
00:52:47.120 so what kind of pillows no matter where you are you're fine i have pillows from like i have the
00:52:53.540 pillows that are like stained yellow from i guess 10 000 years of sweat pouring into them like i
00:52:58.120 just it's time like i have this flat they're flat no lifeless i'm not trying to convince you not to
00:53:04.180 make a purchase no i know you're not i'm just saying that i want soft what do you need i need
00:53:08.480 i would say four new yeah soft and and it's soft in what sense it can mean so many things
00:53:17.920 i like mushy do you like when they flatten to nothing like because like a down pillow like
00:53:24.280 feeling in a hotel where then it can fly it's huge but then it can flatten to nothing oh i love that
00:53:28.460 i like fluff it up and then it's all air yeah i don't like when i love the feeling of that what's
00:53:32.860 that feeling when there's so much buoyancy firm oh well yeah bounce bounce when your your neck
00:53:39.140 just is forever up that's bad right that well it's not necessarily bad if you sleep on your side
00:53:46.120 i sleep every which way your head it's a whole yeah i mean and you wake up in no pain so so 0.90
00:53:52.820 like you're you're not you know you just get a fucking pillow it feels good like yeah you know 0.96
00:53:58.580 like you you can live free so do i have to go into because i would love to go into a brick and 0.99
00:54:02.500 mortar and have a pillow experience so do i go but or do i know that sounds like hell i go online
00:54:07.840 who wants to do that lay down on a little piece of felt they lay across a pillow it's that's
00:54:12.520 disgusting and it's like but the one i'm just trusting the descriptions online parking well
00:54:20.420 first of all you know but i love it to the dawn of the new day welcome to the dawn of the new day
00:54:25.640 which is everything's got like a gazillion you know they know i mean this is the whole this is
00:54:31.260 the modern way is like things that you normally wouldn't want to things you'd normally go in
00:54:35.480 brick and mortar for they now have policies that allow you to you know send it back of course of
00:54:39.680 course okay in a in a bag that's already pre-stamped and has stickiness on it you know
00:54:44.520 you get one of those got it got it okay i mean i think i mean you i think give me a website
00:54:53.480 company store brooklin otherwise it's your whole day kate it's your whole day see but that's the
00:54:58.840 something really fun about going i'm getting pillows today i'm gonna get lunch with my mom
00:55:02.040 and maybe i'll go sure yeah but no but i understand sort of 1997 what store though what's
00:55:08.760 what website give me names here are you my mom goes the company store
00:55:15.720 i thought i thought we identified this before because my mom also the company store that
00:55:22.740 catalog yeah it was i somehow yeah i think i do too it's like it's like the company store is sort
00:55:30.660 of government mandated yeah where it's like it's like well they have quality items that like at
00:55:37.860 like reasonable reasonable but it's expensive you know no no i i'm not saying it's cheap okay i mean
00:55:45.340 reasonable as in like as in like it's good quality stuff that you feel like you're not cheaping out
00:55:51.840 yeah right and like you know like i don't think my mom would purchase something from the company
00:55:56.660 store believing it was like disposable i'm gonna like shit instantly i think it's like no like 0.66
00:56:01.900 well you know you know it's it's almost like the kind of thing like well you know you get the 0.97
00:56:05.440 cotton blanket you know the classic cotton blanket you get it from the company store it
00:56:09.520 comes in 12 colors like yeah that sounds like something i've heard someone say about the
00:56:14.720 comfy store or yeah pillows comforters I feel like there's something a comforter even the word alone
00:56:22.460 it's all there it's just there's something about um I mean there's also kind of like a vibe I feel
00:56:30.440 like that feels kind of old school of like you go to like the departments like you almost go to like
00:56:34.580 the Bloomingdale's home department do you know what I'm talking about this isn't something
00:56:38.440 but it's something i've seen will you go with me yeah yes to the mall oh my god that'd be cute
00:56:45.100 oh okay so and this is a classic jacqueline novak which is i come with a huge request
00:56:50.160 and and i love when you go yes and so i just want to say i just want to say because we promise this
00:56:58.260 for the for the hats we're going to go to a brick and mortar we're going to go to the mall and we're
00:57:02.260 gonna do remote remote recordings yeah i mean can you imagine oh i sure and by the way this is
00:57:09.200 gonna soaring on the knowledge i really steamrolled on this episode this is gonna soothe your landing
00:57:13.880 back into la from italy it's the mall trip and we'll go to blue ribbon sushi and we'll get a
00:57:19.520 cocktail oh i love it i can't actually isn't that so exciting and by the way honey the christmas
00:57:28.060 decorations are going to be let me see a movie november i know i know oh oh my god christmas
00:57:35.000 in los angeles my life makes sense can't wait to get my blow mold out your what you know my
00:57:41.760 blow mold my blow mold sammy the sensational oh yeah he's a snowman he lights i light him up
00:57:46.380 your christmas decorations are unbelievable god i can't wait to bring that out still haven't been
00:57:53.280 fully put away as you know they're resting i mean they're wrapped they're resting they're not
00:57:57.580 uh yeah but i just start to go i have a glowing angel you know plastic angel from the from the
00:58:03.660 80s ebay vintage what do i not want the light of her all year round i mean that's that's the
00:58:09.460 question we start to go around that's where you just go all right well i guess i'm gonna have to
00:58:13.020 get a light up crystal you know or light up um angel like for you know sort of for the other
00:58:20.000 months of course i don't know you turn to lights at that time of year you go why aren't i using
00:58:24.820 lights more regularly i always decide well i'll say it my mother my mother understands the
00:58:31.180 importance of glow and twinkles and that and it's year-round at the house well you know i will say
00:58:36.180 here in italy i've been eating outside almost exclusively and it's been it's been ecstasy
00:58:40.880 and a big part of it has become i will not tolerate indoor lighting that's how i know
00:58:47.340 in a restaurant anymore these bright uh nothing works from above fluorescence i go
00:58:52.600 am i in the freezer section of the supermarket my restaurant that i plan to open in my mid 50s
00:58:58.980 will only be illuminated by lamps well yeah yeah yeah there it is lamps candles lamps candles
00:59:06.480 festoons an occasional festoon of light of light festoon festoon is one of my favorite words
00:59:14.160 but a festoon is like an adore it's like um what do you call it it's like no okay yes that's what
00:59:19.120 i thought no no totally like a bit like a banner but a festoon light like an illuminated festoon
00:59:24.360 maybe the restaurant's called festoon what about a chandelier well that's a great restaurant name
00:59:29.440 what about a chandelier sorry i'm i'm yes yes but i'm still stuck on that i finally found the
00:59:37.180 perfect word i finally found the name festoon yeah festoon oh my god let me tell you a little
00:59:44.540 more why it's good table for four at festoon at eight o'clock good luck it's done good luck
00:59:50.220 i know it's done festoon first of all it has fet in it as in celebration okay fet fet this is huge
00:59:57.840 okay what is oon in terms of dinner because there is something oh spoon okay we've got a spoon in
01:00:04.180 there yeah a serving spoon inside of the festoon we've got fet we've got festoon i can i can already
01:00:10.900 feel it well i we went to festoon once again i worry for you that you've said it and it's going
01:00:16.260 to be instantly stolen i know probably well guess what if it is whoever steals it you'll be hearing
01:00:21.840 from the legal team okay because lawyers because they are sharp they have they are they are hungry
01:00:31.440 yeah they are waiting yeah yeah their feet are are cloven okay and they and they are they are
01:00:40.000 weight it's a it's a stiletto heel that's what i was picturing a sharp stiletto heel but then
01:00:45.720 when they lift up the heel on the bottom where normally you'd see the um part that goes under
01:00:49.740 the ball of the foot that's where you see the cloven truth you see that's where you see it's
01:00:54.540 empty you see the cloven foot wait i have to say this just really quickly i was in a business i
01:01:01.800 was in a professional environment recently and there was a businesswoman who i who i had known
01:01:06.800 who's high up she's a business woman okay it's about it's about 1 30 p.m on a thursday
01:01:15.300 this woman who is a she is in a stiletto heel she is and i was like 0.87
01:01:23.300 fucking how it was amazing and i was like just is she wearing sneakers on the way to the subway 0.94
01:01:32.240 like like the 80s businesswoman yeah i don't know but it was unbelievable to see her 0.98
01:01:36.360 crazy spirits on the way what's happening i don't know but it was unbelievable to see her just 1.00
01:01:39.600 working just top of her field stilettoed at 1 30 on a thursday i was like oh my god she's probably
01:01:47.840 you know 50 well to me what it says damn to me what it says it's it's to me it's a master of 0.99
01:01:55.780 both worlds okay it's a real fuck you to everyone okay oh yeah in the in a way that is incredible 0.99
01:02:01.300 because and it's I don't know like I don't know the implications of that which I say okay but I'll 0.99
01:02:07.380 just I'll just say the feelings which are like okay the stiletto a tool of you know the patriarchy
01:02:13.520 to make women you know totter along and be unbalanced right and and and not be you know 1.00
01:02:18.640 and then to go no it's a knife on my foot and I can balance on it and kick your ass yeah yeah like 1.00
01:02:26.520 with like slaughtering you uh through through business maneuvering oh the poetry of it i i was 0.99
01:02:32.740 like oh moved and i almost i didn't say anything but i was like i almost wanted to go right hey
01:02:37.800 hey hey you go girl 0.94
01:02:39.720 fucking loved it all right um did you clock the brand did you clock the brand was there no no no 0.97
01:02:48.840 i didn't even it just was like no no again she was animated she was animating an archetype 0.98
01:02:55.880 she was animated and animating an archetype to the fullest degree and i'm going about her day 0.89
01:03:00.680 and going about her fucking day and it was just it was chanted i know see i always feel like you 0.89
01:03:06.500 know yes i gotta do and then and then these animations you know fall fall to the wind 0.99
01:03:13.060 to the wayside in the wind you know you can only animate so many archetypes in a single day
01:03:18.260 no i know seven maps okay we um actually you gotta go we gotta go okay all right love you
01:03:25.140 Right now, we gotta go.
01:03:26.140 Love you.
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01:03:43.140 When you feel uncomfortable,
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01:04:12.700 this is rider strong and i have a new podcast called the red weather in 1995 my neighbor
01:04:18.580 and a trainer disappeared from a commune.
01:04:20.900 It was nature and trees and praying and drugs.
01:04:24.740 No, I am not your guru.
01:04:28.380 Back then, I lied to everybody.
01:04:30.680 They have had this case for 30 years.
01:04:33.620 I'm going back to my hometown to uncover the truth.
01:04:37.400 Listen to The Red Weather on the iHeartRadio app,
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01:04:43.660 You know Roald Dahl.
01:04:45.180 He thought up Willy Wonka and the BFG.
01:04:47.720 But did you know he was a spy?
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01:04:55.820 What?
01:04:56.700 You probably won't believe it either.
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01:05:00.140 It must have been.
01:05:01.520 Okay, I don't think that's true.
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01:05:13.380 The more you listen to your kids,
01:05:15.800 the closer you'll be.
01:05:17.040 So we asked kids, what do you want your parents to hear?
01:05:21.500 I feel sometimes that I'm not listened to.
01:05:23.760 I would just want you to listen to me more often and evaluate situations with me and lead me towards success.
01:05:30.500 Listening is a form of love.
01:05:32.740 Find resources to help you support your kids and their emotional well-being at SoundItOutTogether.org.
01:05:38.960 That's SoundItOutTogether.org.
01:05:41.420 Brought to you by the Ad Council and Pivotal.
01:05:43.400 Crook and Chase Nashville chats with the coolest cat in country music.
01:05:47.600 He is edgy.
01:05:48.400 He's fun.
01:05:49.420 He is Chase Matthews.
01:05:50.920 Keith Urban helped make him a global sensation last year,
01:05:53.660 but it's his recent number one hit, Darling, that put Chase on the map
01:05:56.680 and launched a fun and difficult conversation about lovers who cheat and lie.
01:06:01.920 That's why I'm scared to get married.
01:06:03.280 You're giving me trust issues, brother.
01:06:04.640 Crook and Chase Nashville chats with Chase Matthews.
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