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00:02:36.100 Hi, I'm Kate Berlant.

00:02:37.620 I'm Jacqueline Novak.

00:02:38.740 And this is POOG, an ongoing conversation about wellness between two obsessive friends.

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00:03:00.100 Hi, y'all.

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00:03:11.460 See this?

00:03:12.900 Oh, yeah.

00:03:13.640 Did you get this?

00:03:14.460 Yeah.

00:03:15.300 I was like, that's how you do it. 1.00

00:03:16.720 That's how you fucking do it. 1.00

00:03:17.280 Gorgeous box. 1.00

00:03:18.180 It's this huge.

00:03:19.040 Well, I had a bad news.

00:03:19.600 The big ribbon on it is so pretty.

00:03:21.140 I know the news.

00:03:22.480 that it's all blush it's all blush and it's so pigmented it's insane i tried it literally

00:03:28.540 yesterday i went like put a drop and i was like well it's literally acrylic paint yeah so i just

00:03:33.900 pulled one out i was like oh maybe every gift okay see you you're the speed of you right and

00:03:40.260 i think this can go in because because first of all a lot of people are desperate for a

00:03:44.020 high pigment um product okay i'm just trying it right now

00:03:48.900 but i will say i do want some of their other products and i'm gonna want them to

00:03:56.000 okay like no no we need the whole line i do want the whole line but look i just put it

00:04:02.560 i just put on my lip and my cheek with just fingers you look pretty

00:04:06.380 not bad actually i saw a picture of what this is what's that poppy just for the curious

00:04:14.600 she has a gorgeous sigh say how do you say oh yeah we never said the words that's funny we

00:04:21.580 hadn't said yet i do believe my microphone will fall at some point during this i saw a picture

00:04:27.480 of myself earlier that I took on my phone yeah and I saw um 11s um bursting forth in a way that

00:04:37.400 I and I go is it powder is it retreating into the face yeah retreating into the face and that's the

00:04:43.760 thing with 11s or wrinkles and again we're embracing wrinkles but the 11s I go you can

00:04:50.360 kind of erase them week to week I go you have 11 literally and the next week they're gone literally

00:04:54.380 but it's like one week you're gorgeous the next week you're hideous one week you're you know like

00:05:01.020 everything can change i do believe 11s if three days on someone's botox is okay because i was

00:05:08.680 telling a friend like i was begging her not to get yeah botox botox for the 11s just because i was

00:05:15.160 like you'll never believe like if you start that now you'll never believe the truth that like 0.97

00:05:19.520 you can erase them retrain yeah and and stop fucking firing that furrowing brow just stop 0.89

00:05:28.620 doing it and it will go away so yeah like and they're like saying like oh after three days 0.96

00:05:37.000 like doctor said like it'll take a couple days to notice and it's like so what they're saying 0.95

00:05:41.460 is that literally a couple days of not using that muscle oh shit see i'm saying well you're a genius 0.99

00:05:47.800 i never thought of it that way fuck and so versus a magic potion right it's literally 0.99

00:05:54.040 so i feel like it's one of the easiest um things to to get rid of uh i mean it's like if i'm out 0.97

00:06:05.220 in the sun and you're squinting squinting it like squinting like yeah i'll be like it's like

00:06:11.660 there's the wrinkle you age seven you age seven years in 45 minutes yeah yeah but you just work 0.95

00:06:17.300 it out just don't do it yeah and then yeah the gua sha of it all absolutely absolutely there she

00:06:25.220 is drinking the celsius i've been so dehydrated my water consumption has plummeted i've never been

00:06:30.360 more dehydrated i think the water was on a road trip and um you can't drink water on a road trip

00:06:36.160 unless you want to piss every 22 minutes and so interesting massive dehydration that's very

00:06:43.520 interesting i've never been someone that considers um oh i'll have to pee i don't do that i just

00:06:52.040 you just hold it i live i don't yeah i don't know i i just i feel like i'm massively hydrating

00:06:58.340 yeah like i mean i have to tell myself how often are you trying not to stop

00:07:05.560 you think you'd actually be stopping like every 20 minutes oh if i'm drinking water in a real way

00:07:15.360 yeah i am pissing how small is that bladder i wonder okay well guess what's been going on over

00:07:21.420 here waking up on the night to pee now for weeks no yeah talk me through it because i because at

00:07:27.480 first i went oh is that i've been having i don't want to say poor sleep but you know that i pride

00:07:35.200 myself on going to sleep sleeping 10 hours dead dead asleep waking up grading the day i've been

00:07:42.160 having some some a little bit of tossing a little bit of turning peeing in the night okay waking

00:07:48.700 and tossing and turning like being like what's going on uh rollover yeah having a couple well

00:07:53.580 i had by the way you'll love this lucid dreams this is huge jacqueline i may have seen my first

00:08:00.000 ghost excuse me okay so listen to this i'm gonna give it to you here i am here i'm gonna set the

00:08:07.260 scene i can barely stand i'm in an old hotel near the grand canyon what yeah listen to this on your

00:08:15.540 road trip you were so secret about your road trip all right but anyway we'll talk about that

00:08:19.620 i wake up something fishy is going on so imagine this dead of night eyes boom open my eyes just

00:08:28.500 jet awake and i knew i was aware i'm in the hotel room i knew exactly where i was so i was like i'm 0.77

00:08:35.260 awake okay and i saw this woman are you fucking serious i already know it's a ghost okay i don't 0.68

00:08:42.820 know i don't know i don't mean by you i don't mean by you just like well because here too so i've 0.93

00:08:48.860 never seen a ghost i've always said hey love you yeah i don't want to see you i'm not open to it

00:08:52.760 i i thought if i ever saw a ghost i would my life would be over i'd be too scared um to continue

00:08:58.280 wait so when you go into an old space you preload with that sentiment oh yeah i'll if i'm in a place

00:09:03.620 i go oh it's haunted i go not open to it and i just feel like also just psychically like i just

00:09:08.120 internally i'm just like don't show me i don't want to see you like i wish you well and i'm

00:09:12.600 i you know but don't i'm not i'm not open to it the assumption they can read minds is is a big one

00:09:17.880 no no i because i thought about this because i think i think that is like like i'm not even

00:09:23.700 saying it's wrong i think there's a belief read minds one thing like i think some of them could

00:09:27.760 okay i think like god can the angels totally right oh yeah god the guides can huge question

00:09:33.980 okay you don't have to speak it out loud a common ghost no but i'm saying but a common ghost i'm

00:09:38.240 not so sure well i don't think it got through because i wasn't even thinking about ghosts and

00:09:42.040 then but here's what was so strange about it i always thought if something like that happened

00:09:45.520 i'd be terrified no fear no fear i'm not surprised so here's what happened not coming back eyes

00:09:50.540 opened picture this picture this life you're very involved okay go on we talked about that on the

00:09:55.220 show okay so wait i so i go from dead asleep imagine this eyes open just boom i see a woman

00:10:00.860 and okay wasn't a full body though this is why i go was it a dream but it wasn't a dream yeah i saw

00:10:05.820 but she was very clear i didn't know her i'd say woman blonde woman her mid 50s smiling in a really

00:10:12.120 nice way like smiling body i mean what not full body i'd say waist up like it was more like a

00:10:19.280 bust like i saw like a spirit to me wait are you serious it's not just the full body i don't know

00:10:25.480 about this stuff oh so i saw her and she was it was really nice and she smiled at me this big kind

00:10:31.760 of toothy not in a scary way though like that almost sounds scary like a ghost smiling at you

00:10:35.700 like it felt yeah it felt like really benevolent it felt really positive i wasn't scared but i was

00:10:40.620 jolted like enough where i got the adrenaline of like whoa oh like i went in the room yeah or just

00:10:45.260 like and then i was able to fall asleep okay what so you you thought okay that's a ghost and then

00:10:52.520 decided to go to sleep it was enough that i was again awake i'm in the room whoa okay but then it

00:10:59.800 was kind of this in between right state where i just closed my eyes and i was like all right and

00:11:05.400 then i but i woke up and you know instantly thought about it okay hold on so let me just

00:11:10.180 think for a minute because i have questions i didn't know that a bust that a ghost could be

00:11:15.520 just a bust kind of a floating bust i mean i've never seen any of my work okay okay this is a

00:11:21.180 huge part yeah sure okay it wasn't an orb she was she was a woman she was broad she was a

00:11:27.320 no i know i mean i'm joking i'm joking but but i mean well for one did it happen did i see a ghost

00:11:35.560 did it happen i think it might happen no no but there's a couple questions so during checkout

00:11:41.580 where you asked the question of the owner didn't check out just left well i don't check out either

00:11:47.460 but i actually think only a fool checks out until i'm so pointed out that that's how you check

00:11:53.180 you check the receipt for where they like charged you for valet parking and you right you go actually

00:11:58.580 I didn't get the Denver Omelette twice.

00:12:00.340 I got it once.

00:12:01.480 Yeah.

00:12:02.220 You wish I got it twice.

00:12:04.740 Usually I did get it twice, but I like it.

00:12:10.300 Can I do it again for dinner before I leave?

00:12:13.200 How many more times can I have this experience before I leave?

00:12:15.320 Okay, wait.

00:12:16.040 So.

00:12:17.720 Watched six hours of Shark Tank.

00:12:19.380 Okay, keep going.

00:12:20.580 In the hotel?

00:12:21.580 Yeah.

00:12:21.920 Raw TV.

00:12:22.740 Raw to the dome.

00:12:23.940 Yeah, yeah.

00:12:25.260 Commercials and everything.

00:12:25.780 By the way, commercials, I mean, it is crazy.

00:12:27.840 we've talked like raw commercials just prescription drugs candy yeah um surgeries i don't know it's

00:12:36.660 crazy on there but wait so checking out i didn't say right hey is there any ghost activity what

00:12:43.580 about google did you google anything no okay interesting like google the hotel name plus

00:12:50.220 the word haunted oh okay it's definitely an old it's one of those situations where it's like an

00:12:56.300 old motel that they kind of like spiffed up a little bit yeah yeah but not even it's very it

00:13:02.000 was very authentically okay it wasn't a reconditioning wasn't a fancy spot very limited

00:13:08.720 options in the grand canyon right but did you read some reviews to arrive at that choice you

00:13:13.740 must have it's a it's complicated no this was kind of a last minute it was one night only one

00:13:18.440 night this wasn't like yeah you were probably focused more on cheapness yeah i love to yeah

00:13:23.880 i pinched a penny because i went big in sedona yeah right okay i need to get to sedona the

00:13:30.520 jealousy okay don't be jealous because literally watch shark tank it wasn't like a it wasn't like

00:13:35.240 i was at the vortex well the whole thing it was healing luckily okay this is interesting you go

00:13:40.660 to sedona right healing city all about the vortex go sure we went on a hike but i wasn't engaging

00:13:45.840 with the mystical properties of sedona but i was watching so you do reap the benefits of sedona

00:13:50.220 even getting room service watching shark tank just in the hotel room blind shut curtains closed

00:13:56.140 not even looking at the view yes yeah i mean a vortex isn't a vortex if it's not big enough to

00:14:03.120 permeate a hotel room am i right jack then other huge news guess what was listened to and completed

00:14:09.620 on the car ride add 2.0 oh my god i'm fully i can't find the app that i read the half chapter

00:14:16.580 in visually it's maddening by the way i thought about you there's stuff that's you there's stuff

00:14:20.520 that's me there's stuff that's us oh wait there's stuff for you like jacqueline you're like you're

00:14:26.960 like you're like you know jacqueline yeah how's that obnoxious quality i don't but not obnoxious

00:14:31.920 just i know no i'm just joking i'm just no no but but but wait but uh really yeah what do i

00:14:37.300 what like hyper focus stuff dude let's talk about my email face perhaps

00:14:41.760 it was like face going into freakish i don't know this is too close to the bone for air

00:14:49.920 but this is but i think that you'll be this is fine and we can always cut it or whatever

00:14:53.860 but this is your face just dropped it's such a it's nothing bad it's just like but i think that

00:14:59.460 you would openly identify as this they talked about rejection sensitivity dysphoria are you

00:15:05.040 aware of this not really but let's hear it well that's kind of it but it's just like because i

00:15:10.560 know you as many of us as many of us don't soften it just give it to me people but no because i've

00:15:17.740 you think i think people hate me you've said this which i don't see myself as no i don't think the

00:15:22.160 no no no no that's what it is okay but but but you have yeah you have sometimes like you know

00:15:27.260 oh kind of a comment that maybe is vaguely critical about poog or something you're like

00:15:30.820 well i'm not we're not doing anymore so but that's what it's about yeah i think it's called

00:15:35.260 rejection sensitive dysmorphia or dysphoria dysphoria and it's about like um yeah there

00:15:41.060 was fear of or like small criticisms like totally like being or you know like anticipating criticism

00:15:47.340 even if you don't receive it and that kind of like shutting you down yeah totally oh god yeah

00:15:52.740 yeah you think it's the add it's a major adhd thing i think i think i read about that but

00:15:58.700 anytime there's anything that's broad enough to depression like or to whatever like anything that

00:16:03.620 goes like that that sounds like it could be a symptom of like everything yeah I almost sort of

00:16:08.840 like don't really like take it as like that's my ADD because like sometimes they're do you know

00:16:13.140 what I mean like it's almost like that's like such a massive cornerstone of you know like every

00:16:20.000 mental health problem would be in my mind like rejection dysphoria or something right it just 0.76

00:16:24.980 sounds like totally but it's nice to hear it all fitting I thought it was interesting and then

00:16:30.360 the thing that i'm feeling the most is like the um by the way my face dropping at the i mean

00:16:37.100 obviously a symptom of i mean of the exactly exactly preemptively dropping yeah yeah before

00:16:43.680 anything has been before anything has been said about me okay go on but also what it talked about

00:16:48.480 is um the irritability which i feel for myself the like yeah the rage like for example this

00:16:55.160 happened i woke up in the middle of the night i was like is this my life now i just can't sleep

00:17:00.240 through the night like what's going on and then i fell back asleep and then it was like the early

00:17:05.320 light came in was hitting my eyes and i was like i need my my jazzy eye mask went over anger surging

00:17:12.200 through my body like feeling like wronged fury yeah like this fury of like couldn't you know it

00:17:19.000 was like feeling around for the eye mask ripped apart my suitcase i mean i took everything that

00:17:24.920 it was in the suitcase and i jumped it on the floor i did kind of almost like a childlike like

00:17:28.900 where is it and i wasn't screaming i was being silent but i just was like yeah and i was like

00:17:32.860 well guess what it's all coming out of the suitcase so i emptied out the entire content

00:17:36.060 of my fully packed suitcase and really because i was packed to leave the next morning right

00:17:40.700 emptied the contents onto the ground yeah every pack to head out this was not just an

00:17:46.460 right okay so i'll make this was this was pre-packed to leave the hotel the next day

00:17:50.920 devastated emptied and this is no exaggeration the entire contents onto the ground to search

00:17:55.700 for the eye mask and i had so much anger as it was happening and it's kind of like like i just

00:18:01.140 and i found it i'm fine woke up happy everything's fine but like those moments where it's like and

00:18:08.040 that's when i degrade myself or i'll you know use violent words about myself yeah um but about about

00:18:15.400 the like misplacing of the mask kind of like just basic yeah yeah or just like when or like

00:18:20.720 for example i mean this is hysterical you know how maybe you've heard me talk about how i need

00:18:24.240 smog check so okay my car i don't know if i've heard about that so my car the registration

00:18:30.480 expired in july it is currently right late feb i think i remember us all discussing like

00:18:36.940 the fact that we're all expected to remember to that's it get our oil and all this i feel like

00:18:42.260 we discussed that many months ago and then okay so okay so listen to this okay what was it caused

00:18:46.800 by oh wait i'm losing it i'm losing it i had a day of huge euphoria because i checked things off my

00:18:52.540 i was being productive i was going to get my cart still haven't done the smog check got the oil

00:18:59.480 check got the window remember that the windshield wipers replaced it was a day of euphoria imagine

00:19:04.220 this eight o'clock at night or 6 30 at night why is that important that's a detail doesn't need to

00:19:09.280 be said the point is this later in the day the sun was down i needed it i needed it well well

00:19:13.660 listen to this i order vintage clothes from the real real the website often and i often buy things

00:19:19.240 that obviously are returnable well you must be doing well 83 dollar dresses okay okay there's

00:19:25.660 theater does not pay as i've been devastated to realize awake in the night doing the numbers

00:19:30.680 going wow okay so welcome to the last i know it's crazy do people know people need to know

00:19:36.020 we need to go come out they literally people have reached out thinking that they think that you get

00:19:40.360 the ticket money that you pocket it you don't and that's actually education you know what i want to

00:19:44.880 do audience education yeah we don't get the money just to be abundantly clear and god bless we're

00:19:49.940 doing theater because we're trying to save culture but we don't get the money and then also i actually

00:19:54.720 want to say this formally if you buy a ticket though because we get the money in that there's

00:19:59.980 a little money okay but it's not like but you wouldn't imagine percentage you'd be shocked

00:20:04.740 you'd be absolutely shocked you'd be absolutely shocked so but but do it please please please we

00:20:09.120 have to you know we have to do this we have to continue to to have live experiences as we become

00:20:13.080 more and more disembodied every day it's actually gonna and i'd love to say about this how it's all

00:20:17.000 coming back around to live by the way because it's like one of the only opportunities oh anyone's

00:20:21.560 gonna have anymore i've never been more i've never been more radicalized by the theater and i and you

00:20:27.880 know fuck the money obviously but it's like it's actually completely essential and i mean i mean

00:20:33.260 ticket prices will raise when it when it has value again at least they're sad but but this is why you 0.97

00:20:39.120 have cheap seats they'll drop ticket prices will drop people will be able to come that's why so 0.97

00:20:43.100 much theater is unwatchable exactly exactly i say that with love because who the fuck can afford 0.98

00:20:48.920 this shit i mean it's insane no you're right it's not that ticket prices need to rise like i got 0.97

00:20:52.480 confused okay no i understand yeah a dollar sign in the eyes no no there's no value it's one of the 0.99

00:20:59.500 only it's one of the only places god still exists i mean my god

00:21:03.860 this is rider strong and i have a new podcast called the red weather it was many and many a

00:21:18.600 year ago in a kingdom by the sea in 1995 my neighbor and a trainer disappeared from a commune

00:21:25.340 It was hard to wrap your head around.

00:21:26.720 It was nature and trees and praying and drugs.

00:21:30.340 So no, I am not your guru.

00:21:34.120 And back then, I lied to my parents.

00:21:36.760 I lied to police.

00:21:38.020 I lied to everybody.

00:21:38.800 There were years, Ryder, where I could not say your name.

00:21:42.000 I've decided to go back to my hometown in Northern California,

00:21:44.660 interview my friends, family, talk to police, journalists,

00:21:47.480 whomever I can to try to find out what actually happened.

00:21:50.840 Isn't it a little bit weird that they obsess over hippies in the woods

00:21:53.760 and not the obvious boyfriend?

00:21:55.340 They have had this case for 30 years. 0.92

00:21:58.360 I'll teach you sons of a** to come around here and my wife. 0.90

00:22:01.360 Boom, boom. 0.97

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00:23:17.280 Welcome to Boys and Girls,

00:23:18.640 The podcast where dating isn't dating, it's a full-on love triathlon.

00:23:23.700 A morning what-if, an evening maybe, and a 3pm chai with a could-this-please-be-the-one.

00:23:30.580 Because in the arranged marriage universe, you're basically on a sushi conveyor belt.

00:23:34.720 And like raw fish, you've got a shelf life.

00:23:38.340 And the wild part? You're not just looking for someone you like.

00:23:41.680 You're casting for a mythical hero your entire family approves of.

00:23:45.360 A saint, a demigod, a unicorn.

00:23:47.700 I know because years ago, I sacrificed myself to this chaotic, soul-crushing tradition, hoping to find love the correct way. 1.00

00:23:56.180 Boys and Girls is our absurd, cringy, heartfelt ride through the highs and lows of the Indian arranged marriage, 1.00

00:24:02.340 finally giving you the validation and healing you deserve. 0.94

00:24:06.680 Listen to Boys and Girls starting February 19th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

00:24:13.720 When you feel uncomfortable, what do you put on?

00:24:16.680 Biggie.

00:24:17.480 You put on Biggie when you feel uncomfortable?

00:24:18.940 Because I want to get confident.

00:24:20.120 This is DJ Hester Prince's Music is Therapy,

00:24:22.760 a new podcast from me, a DJ and licensed therapist

00:24:26.160 that asks one simple question.

00:24:28.820 Who do you want to be?

00:24:29.940 And what's the song that can take you there?

00:24:32.280 Music changes what you feel.

00:24:34.020 And what you feel changes what you do, right?

00:24:36.300 That moment where a song shifts something inside you,

00:24:39.500 that's where transformation starts.

00:24:41.520 This year, I'm talking to experts across every area of life,

00:24:44.900 Like personal finance icon Gene Chatzky, New York Times journalist David Gellis,

00:24:49.840 relationship legend Dan Savage, human connection teacher Mark Groves,

00:24:54.280 and the man who shaped my ear more than anyone, Questlove.

00:24:57.540 They'll bring the strategies.

00:24:58.840 I'll pair them with the right records and we'll teach you how to use the music to make change stick.

00:25:03.580 This isn't just a podcast.

00:25:05.040 It's unconventional therapy for your entire year.

00:25:08.000 Listen to DJ Hesterprin's Music is Therapy on the iHeartRadio app,

00:25:11.660 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

00:25:14.900 wait i forgot what i was saying entirely i'll bring you back i'm sorry i just got really excited

00:25:25.940 i was on to something theater so so so i'll tell you i'll tell you it was the real real it was the

00:25:29.460 real real it was the return yeah wasn't there something else okay but point is you were soaring

00:25:33.400 a dress arrives okay i try it on hate it i'm leaving the next day i look at my phone i go

00:25:41.900 this is the kind of thing that ordinarily would crush me right the return window i have one day

00:25:48.520 i'm leaving the next day if i don't return it today i'm going to pass the return window by the

00:25:51.780 time i get back from the trip and i will have just paid for this dress that i don't like

00:25:55.160 wait instead of sinking to the floor crying yeah because by the way i could sink to the floor

00:26:01.040 crying right now for a thing i shelled out for before a wedding in desperation several hundred

00:26:05.680 dollars i think i remember i have a dress you remember i sent me pictures yeah it's hanging

00:26:10.320 in the real real bag unworn and i was like i gotta return it like like the day after i bought

00:26:14.880 it i was like this was a wild mistake anyway the returns crush so so i didn't sink to the floor

00:26:21.220 i said and then okay here's another obstacle the post office place where i go was closing in 20

00:26:27.060 minutes i go you're getting in the car you're going to return it i printed the label at home

00:26:33.820 can you imagine the strength by the way that is one of the greatest when you actually succeed it

00:26:37.760 and printing and it's coming out and it's warm in the hand the fact of the printer because i thought

00:26:46.280 i thought well i'm going to get the exclamation mark it's not going to be connected and then i'm

00:26:49.520 going to hurl the printer out my front door i mean i thought yeah it connected the the printing

00:26:54.860 seeing a red the return a red label a red exclamation i know the bouncing when it's

00:27:00.540 bouncing at the bottom bounce up and chuck it out the window mac thought apple they thought

00:27:06.780 the bouncing there's a word for it the bouncing thing would be you know like oh then we would

00:27:11.340 jovial yeah like the pinwheel oh god the pinwheel the beautiful sign of death yeah so yeah i i go

00:27:19.360 it prints i get in the car i'm driving there i feel like i feel like i'm a mom of four okay yeah

00:27:26.700 i get there return it it was so it felt so easy and i said to the guy go that's it he goes that's

00:27:34.440 it oh and i and i just handed him the label you didn't even have to like no no i came in with the

00:27:39.800 package with the dress in the thing the label and i go oh oh um do i need to uh because i didn't have

00:27:45.120 you know i was like oh would you mind taping that for me he goes oh exactly that's what i'm asking

00:27:48.320 about oh it's already it's already the real thing that it's like a reusable envelope there's already

00:27:52.840 a thing that you pull it itself tapes and he did that in front of me and i go you're kidding he

00:27:56.900 goes yep i go that's magic and he you know laughs a little i go that's it he goes yeah that's it and

00:28:01.600 And then I felt part of community.

00:28:03.620 And I go, glad I caught you.

00:28:05.060 Caught you right there before you closed.

00:28:06.240 Only 50 minutes to go.

00:28:08.420 We're smiling.

00:28:09.480 We're laughing.

00:28:10.020 I am cartwheeling out of there.

00:28:11.700 I get in the car.

00:28:13.380 Euphoria.

00:28:14.120 I feel like I've made money, you know, even though I actually lost 14.

00:28:18.480 No, this is triggering something here.

00:28:20.820 This is triggering some kind of memory for me.

00:28:23.060 And I'm trying to think about what it was.

00:28:25.000 Like a feeling.

00:28:26.300 Well, there was, okay, you would literally crumble rage.

00:28:30.380 and then i don't know what you'd do okay if you experience what i am going through right now with 0.99

00:28:36.640 i don't mean to say you'd crumble in rage like you know i mean only to say it is so fucked up 0.94

00:28:42.780 okay like the way you know when you're like my eyes are glazing over like i'm gone right like 0.98

00:28:47.640 about complexity or some some specific thing that's uninteresting smog check anything yeah okay

00:28:53.120 i've been paying out of pocket for wellbutrin okay oh you text for several days okay a couple

00:28:59.880 pills at a time going like hey did the insurance go through yet kind of thing okay don't even get

00:29:05.780 me to even explain the details of prior authorizations and you got to call the doctor

00:29:12.180 to call the pharmacist who will trigger the thing that will send it to the insurance i really i

00:29:16.380 really understand with my migraine medicine it's it's it's it's and and my whole thing comes down

00:29:21.900 to like trying to prescribe um my doctor trying to keep me on brand okay instead of going to the

00:29:28.260 generic right because like i had a problem with it many years ago and she has to write in the

00:29:32.300 authorization note like or she has to write in the thing to the insurance and she said

00:29:35.480 lack of efficacy of the medicine is not covered as an excuse for why you're allowed to use the

00:29:40.400 other thing are you what if the medicine doesn't work what else could there be you have to say

00:29:45.700 you have like allergic like negative symptoms in reaction unbelievable whatever so you know the 0.85

00:29:54.060 healthcare whatever it's fucked but i'm in i'm in this zone of showing up and it's sort of like

00:30:00.840 everybody's doing the best they can it's one of these things where like everyone's doing the best 0.95

00:30:04.020 they can and there still are no answers now i'm ordering it from canada the strength to google

00:30:09.460 like how to get it from canada and it was a strength i was unable to achieve myself chris

00:30:15.460 said okay he googled it while i like grumply got in the shower with with a bowl of chili okay yeah

00:30:21.460 i was thinking about you i was like chili in the shower this could this because it was i cook it

00:30:27.580 up and i go i'm cold okay okay i had a chili in my bones yeah i make a little heat up a little

00:30:32.400 chili in one of those gorgeous bowls from w&p porter whatever okay yeah the silicone covering

00:30:38.800 to protect the hand yeah and i'm like i'm gonna run the shower now and then i'm like i'm actually

00:30:42.520 gonna get in the shower now and like finish the chili like like i rested on the side of the thing

00:30:47.340 I can't tell you what it does for me when I'm in that particular kind of mood.

00:30:51.500 This sort of, to just be sort of inappropriately eating in the shower is.

00:30:56.920 Yeah.

00:30:58.640 I want to try it.

00:30:59.720 I want to try it out because I've never eaten in the bath.

00:31:02.420 It doesn't sound good inherently, but I mean, I guess it does and then it doesn't.

00:31:07.300 It's not my instinct when running a bath.

00:31:09.080 It's not like, oh, I need a bowl of berries there or something that they sometimes show

00:31:12.300 in these.

00:31:13.200 By the way, not to scale.

00:31:14.760 i'm really tired of online or an amazon okay when they're showing up a product how it's fully not to

00:31:20.320 scale and it's obvious like so they've just put a woman like they've floated the image of a woman

00:31:24.880 under like a bathtub tray they're smelling you yeah yeah and there's like a huge bowl of berries

00:31:29.840 it's like the size of her head the berry you know it's like and how are you supposed to tell

00:31:34.520 anything anyway i'm always looking at those every every like 12 months there i go looking for a

00:31:40.740 bathtub tray where i'm going to live out my life in the tub do you have a tray

00:31:45.680 so i spend a lot of time in the bath don't have a tray i don't think i'll ever have a tray i just

00:31:52.260 long for one day home ownership and to have a separate bathtub right and i dream of the side

00:31:58.180 space sorry like a shelf not shelf you know i'm saying like a ledge a huge protected ledge

00:32:03.020 you can put candles imagine the products then you can have a candle imagine reaching without

00:32:10.200 bottles falling in the clanging falling cascading yeah yeah all of it i know well i've actually

00:32:15.980 realized i can't be living like this i need a vanity i might need to downsize because i have

00:32:22.020 you know an office in my home i have a room i'm like yeah downsize the desk the office i'm actually

00:32:28.660 might take a picture of it and post it on the on the gram because this makes me go if you saw if

00:32:33.300 you open ADD if you saw mental illness my office right now it looks like it's not an office and

00:32:40.240 it's an impossible it is every surface and also this is another ADD thing of anger was looking

00:32:45.560 for something at the bottom of my purse couldn't find it yeah I go went into the office dumped it

00:32:50.640 all out onto the floor yeah and it felt actually satisfying much like a little child would feel

00:32:55.240 satisfied totally yeah turned it completely the content upside down a big bag sweetheart I'm not

00:33:00.240 talking about a night evening bag i'm talking about a day bag no i know you jumped it out

00:33:03.560 and by the way a toothpick case open all the toothpicks scattered yeah i go good you think 0.99

00:33:08.260 i fucking care i'll walk on it till i bleed objects yeah fuck you objects exactly yeah 0.98

00:33:13.480 flowing out flowing out still there that's maybe two and a half if not three weeks ago i did that 0.99

00:33:18.160 and i've been stepping over it well these are the dark and dark channels i can't blame these people

00:33:24.800 who don't understand who post things like you know like chaos in the office and it's like

00:33:30.220 literally the most like it's nothing neatness i've ever seen in my life it's just it's okay

00:33:35.820 like people their lives are relative to themselves you know yeah it's just like you know not of what

00:33:42.100 you speak i mean whatever it doesn't i dropped a starbucks i sent you a picture oh yeah being

00:33:46.860 witnessed was the only it was really sweet i got a text from jacklyn that said drop my box

00:33:52.660 yeah bux dropped my box and it was a starbucks emptied out yeah side down just down it went

00:33:59.680 i even it hits the ground and i go and it's add because it's like i forget there's something in

00:34:07.860 my hand i mean it's it's constant the dropping the i took a spill on an escalator trying to run

00:34:13.820 back up it wait you know you start going down oh wait i'm not we're not going down yeah someone

00:34:20.260 realize and then i go i go let's run it okay because i i i've seen people do that i was late

00:34:26.460 okay i was late and i was like i'm strong yeah late yeah that's not even the bruise i mean it

00:34:33.340 is one of them okay that's not even it but you know what i want to tell the hags can you see it

00:34:39.440 i see a big bruise on your leg jam that's from an escalator wow now i'm just sort of

00:34:47.200 now you're just kind of showing i'm just enjoying being uh like like i gotta convince the people

00:34:51.920 that's my neck wait yeah on this ice poop video do you think my neck looks uh do you think my

00:34:58.220 neck looks thinner kate not up and down yes all right sorry yeah um wait but wait you were talking

00:35:07.400 about soaring doing tasks like a while ago and i'm not done with it because i got excited and

00:35:11.580 then just decided to tell you like the most boring thing ever about the pharmacy but wait

00:35:15.260 but me leaving soaring from community but without the meds like me leaving be like being like we

00:35:21.820 left where like well it's like i got another couple pills while i'm waiting and i'll never

00:35:26.700 be refunded and it's hell okay so and i go i'm like america again in two days abject hell yeah

00:35:32.740 see you again in two days i had that experience with my pharmacist where i go because again we've 0.67

00:35:38.780 talked about this i'm gonna get off of it these poor hags i've heard this from me a million times

00:35:41.840 but it was like a thing of paying out of pocket i get the insurance i got the coupon my medication

00:35:45.760 that would be nine hundred dollars out of pocket i got down to 200 and then actually to five dollars

00:35:50.680 so i got it down too is like hysterical you mean that's what the insurance rate was but i had to 0.98

00:35:58.140 the fuck this is where i go how did i do it well no you can't of course you can't haggle but it was 0.97

00:36:02.900 like i found the coupon online i had to sign up for a coupon thing where for a year you get it you 0.99

00:36:08.520 know so i got it down because it did feel like that yeah yeah care mark no plus it's this whole

00:36:13.320 other thing for aim of aim of egg the injection i used got it to five dollars 900 to five okay and

00:36:19.200 i was begging for free samples along the way to not to pay the 900 or the 200 point is one time

00:36:24.120 with the pharmacist something happened where it was some freak thing where they didn't authorize

00:36:27.380 it whatever and he was like for you to pick it up today it costs 900 and i said but it's usually

00:36:32.300 five dollars and then he said i know that and i said it's so evil i said this is just so evil and

00:36:37.300 he said i know it is evil it is evil imagine imagine that you're the person behind the desk 0.94

00:36:43.240 i mean i mean what these people fucking go through a woman who's 942 hunched over who has to write a 0.98

00:36:49.860 check for 14.99 for i mean it's just it's just whatever it's it's just fucking hell so crazy 0.97

00:36:54.860 anyway i am experimenting with a million times but just the pharmacist me like like i don't know 0.73

00:37:02.820 between some meds in new york and like i don't know 2009 or something like being like and like

00:37:09.180 i'm waiting in line it's like i'm like not in great shape waiting in line to get like the

00:37:12.800 prescription filled and it's like really like just 14th street cbs like oh that's a tough one

00:37:18.180 and it's like the pharmacist sort of trudging around and just goes i'm gonna freaking kill

00:37:25.660 myself that's a classic that's amazing it was amazing

00:37:30.380 this is writer strong and i have a new podcast called the red weather it was many and many a

00:37:45.580 year ago in a kingdom by the sea in 1995 my neighbor and a trainer disappeared from a commune

00:37:52.320 it was hard to wrap your head around it was nature and trees and praying and drugs no i am not your

00:37:59.320 and back then i lied to my parents i lied to police i lied to everybody there were years

00:38:06.960 right where i could not say your name i've decided to go back to my hometown in northern

00:38:10.880 california interview my friends family talk to police journalists whomever i can to try to find

00:38:16.120 out what actually happened isn't it a little bit weird that they obsess over hippies in the woods

00:38:20.740 and not the obvious boyfriend they have had this case for 30 years i'll teach you sons of

00:38:26.400 You come around here with my wife.

00:38:28.360 Boom, boom.

00:38:29.680 This is The Red Weather.

00:38:32.640 Listen to The Red Weather on the iHeartRadio app,

00:38:35.260 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

00:38:40.420 Hello, it's me, Anna Sinfield, from The Girlfriends,

00:38:43.480 the number one hit true crime show

00:38:46.120 that puts women right in the center of their own stories.

00:38:49.960 I'm back with more one-off interviews 1.00

00:38:52.380 with some truly kick-ass women on The Girlfriend's Spotlight. 1.00

00:38:57.320 I want to introduce you to Sylvia. 0.97

00:38:59.820 I'm going to climb this.

00:39:02.180 And then there's Vaisaka.

00:39:04.300 Let's see how we can stop killing and save lives.

00:39:08.400 Leila dared to ask the question.

00:39:10.900 Is badness hereditary?

00:39:12.920 And finally, we'll meet Rosamund.

00:39:15.020 If it wasn't for the year where Ella lived,

00:39:17.860 she wouldn't have died on that fatal night.

00:39:20.800 You'll even get to meet my mum in that one,

00:39:22.520 who I can always count on to keep my feet on the ground.

00:39:25.560 I'm not too intimidated by her.

00:39:26.960 What are you talking about? 1.00

00:39:29.940 Listen to the Girlfriend Spotlight on the iHeartRadio app, 1.00

00:39:33.340 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

00:39:40.220 Ever feel like you're being chased by the marriage police?

00:39:44.240 Welcome to Boys and Girls, the podcast where dating isn't dating.

00:39:47.820 It's a full-on love triathlon.

00:39:50.400 A morning what-if, an evening maybe, and a 3pm chai with a could-this-please-be-the-one.

00:39:57.560 Because in the arranged marriage universe, you're basically on a sushi conveyor belt.

00:40:01.720 And like raw fish, you've got a shelf life.

00:40:05.340 And the wild part? You're not just looking for someone you like.

00:40:08.660 You're casting for a mythical hero your entire family approves of.

00:40:12.360 A saint, a demigod, a unicorn.

00:40:14.680 I know because years ago, I sacrificed myself to this chaotic, soul-crushing tradition, hoping to find love the correct way. 1.00

00:40:23.180 Boys and Girls is our absurd, cringy, heartfelt ride through the highs and lows of the Indian arranged marriage, 1.00

00:40:29.320 finally giving you the validation and healing you deserve. 0.94

00:40:33.660 Listen to Boys and Girls starting February 19th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

00:40:40.700 When you feel uncomfortable, what do you put on?

00:40:43.660 Biggie.

00:40:44.460 You put on Biggie when you feel uncomfortable?

00:40:45.900 Because I want to get confident.

00:40:47.100 This is DJ Hester Prince's Music is Therapy,

00:40:49.740 a new podcast from me, a DJ and licensed therapist

00:40:53.140 that asks one simple question.

00:40:55.800 Who do you want to be?

00:40:57.000 And what's the song that can take you there?

00:40:59.260 Music changes what you feel.

00:41:01.000 And what you feel changes what you do, right?

00:41:03.280 That moment where a song shifts something inside you,

00:41:06.500 that's where transformation starts.

00:41:08.500 This year, I'm talking to experts across every area of life,

00:41:11.880 like personal finance icon Gene Chatzky,

00:41:14.780 New York Times journalist David Gellis,

00:41:16.820 relationship legend Dan Savage,

00:41:19.120 human connection teacher Mark Groves,

00:41:21.260 and the man who shaped my ear more than anyone, Questlove.

00:41:24.540 They'll bring the strategies.

00:41:25.840 I'll pair them with the right records

00:41:27.260 and we'll teach you how to use the music to make change stick.

00:41:30.560 This isn't just a podcast.

00:41:32.020 It's unconventional therapy for your entire year.

00:41:34.980 Listen to DJ Hester-Krin's Music is Therapy

00:41:37.260 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

00:41:39.660 or wherever you get your podcasts.

00:41:41.880 i've begged burrow for a couch it's time burrow's been good to us burrow gave me shelves that i 0.83

00:41:52.600 fucking love that are in my office they're fantastic you know who's also been good 0.86

00:41:56.140 a dress arrived page denim okay okay on a on a cycle they sent jeans i wore them 0.98

00:42:04.600 someone sent out a push through someone said i actually want to post it on the gram because

00:42:09.220 some company i'm forgetting it was a weird company god bless but they were like well

00:42:12.740 send you something went on the website there was some kind of like sexy kind of slutty like

00:42:16.760 lingerie adjacent slip thing and i went i'll get it in a small right because it's just like

00:42:21.700 it is for a eight-year-old it's for a thin eight-year-old i was like

00:42:26.780 it was like a it was for a dog it like wasn't even curious it was shocking was it for a dog

00:42:34.900 maybe it was definitely wasn't for pets definitely not for pets it wasn't some confusion it was for

00:42:40.520 an adult yeah i could not believe yeah of course some companies they're small it's so small like

00:42:45.720 it's sure but i was like small this is this would be a petite you would order this as like ultra

00:42:52.360 petite it was shocking anyway i almost attempted to bring it game i'll tell you i never knew you

00:42:56.560 left oh no i'm still wearing it's time for a re-up oh brick and mortar's dead i want to talk

00:43:01.480 about it actually oh yeah well free people anyway go on i um can you believe this jacqueline i would

00:43:09.020 say about 45 minutes ago i drove by your house you're and i actually thought should i call her

00:43:15.000 and say hey but we can't record together because we don't have the equipment yeah but i have two

00:43:20.880 weird thing to drive by your house and i was driving home to record poog yeah half an hour

00:43:25.600 from my home interesting right i almost felt like deception like totally yeah it was like confusing

00:43:32.240 i feel like i'm driving by her house i know well but i knew that if i called it didn't make sense

00:43:36.920 for me because i had to go home because i was rushing home to make the recording time no i get

00:43:40.880 it those those are strange moments conundrum yeah that's a strange moment driving by your home

00:43:47.780 rushing haven't seen you in yeah weeks in order to in order to see you i had to ignore your home

00:43:55.440 i had to not no it's almost like you'd be making a beeline towards a friend at a party and then

00:44:00.820 suddenly realize like the quickest route to them is like around back and so yeah right and they go

00:44:06.260 yeah yeah totally uh well there is that thing where like if amongst a group of people you see

00:44:13.140 the person that you know and you go oh i can't get to them i'm not gonna say hi to them yet

00:44:17.100 but you've already sort of said hi to them in your mind and then when you do start talking to them

00:44:20.340 you don't have the oh hi the energy because it's like yeah i saw you 30 feet away right right nine

00:44:25.540 minutes wait wait break okay a couple things okay okay i've been going into the tracy anderson studio

00:44:32.000 and you know i've i've been leaning on in person being i need to join you a motivator okay i need

00:44:40.340 to email these people because jacqueline i want a private i decided to shell out i go teach it to

00:44:44.020 me yes remember last week i was like you just click on it and then okay we'll figure it out 0.81

00:44:49.100 honey i tried i've uncovered a raw tomato allergy what are you fucking serious finally a food 0.67

00:44:56.060 sensitivity my mouth is torn listen to this i ate a raw tomato okay the acidic so i've in the past 0.95

00:45:05.720 been like oh it's i'm allergic to it i woke up lacerations sore itching kind of tingling nothing

00:45:11.600 terrible i took a benadryl i was high in a really fun way it was easy because again it was a long

00:45:20.120 car trip partner taking the wheel i was like you know they've got it it's fine so i got to just

00:45:25.060 kind of like be like laughing in the passenger seat but i was like quite stoned in a way that

00:45:30.980 kind of i used to be afraid of benadryl because i don't like pills i don't like that feeling of

00:45:34.580 like being such a 70s stone like i just 80s i'm i know you i don't like pills like as though like

00:45:43.120 benadryl is inherently a pill like versus like because benadryl it comes in liquid form it

00:45:48.280 scare me i know but you know but like the shape like it just but it reminds me of like guess what

00:45:54.060 in my book about ad they talked about literally subscribe subscribing prescribing dramamine to

00:46:02.040 people with add okay because of inner ear like dizziness balance something about strengthening

00:46:06.960 the cerebellum that some people responded well to dramamine as an add my like stomach just turned

00:46:13.840 in a knot with the feeling of like no one listens okay because i've been talking about this for

00:46:20.380 years okay are you serious not the dramamine but i've been telling you and it makes sense that it

00:46:24.720 would be an ADHD 2.0 okay because I read in some obscure texts way back when I was like

00:46:31.900 gonna heal my own brain and become a god this whole thing about the cerebellum exercises

00:46:40.360 okay the name is cerebellum okay that's where it all is for us and that that because it was not

00:46:45.680 the main theory it was not okay no so basically these balance exercises strengthen it and crossing

00:46:51.600 the line is a whole thing you know crossing the midline and then they do you do these and like

00:46:56.000 balance boards and so i would like i remember like in new york again okay i remember like walking

00:47:00.900 along on these getting a little balance beam work in wherever i could and balancing that's truly

00:47:07.080 what balance what they say but wait going into studio i've been wearing my home unitards my

00:47:12.340 various and you know i'm always trying to do a unitard roundup i really like the one from what

00:47:17.440 it's not as you like it it's it's oh you are m m r as i am it's something that like confusing

00:47:25.740 it's a it's a it's a active wear brand remember i sent you that photo of me in that like insane

00:47:31.820 little short romper the whorish one yes yes and can't work out in it whatever but their other

00:47:38.060 one their leggings and their long sleeve you can't work out because people just come up to you and

00:47:41.500 start railing you from behind i couldn't even work in work out in it safely at home okay no but 1.00

00:47:48.300 couldn't it wouldn't hold it wouldn't hold me in okay oh like tits tits okay yeah yeah tits and 1.00

00:47:55.280 ass pouring out in all directions like just not it was not for working out and yeah whatever but 0.99

00:48:00.580 their leggings were great whatever but then i go in i sweat completely through everything so the

00:48:06.680 heat in there it's a complete sauna experience every time so you're getting like once a day

00:48:11.800 right the clothes are soaked after but the light colored unitards are a problem once you're sweating

00:48:20.920 and you're doing these high splits okay or these out you can just see contours of everything it's

00:48:28.960 like you know like that period where like lululemon was like it was like a whole thing about lululemon

00:48:34.540 oh kind of they were like we won't we won't you know like it was an issue that that everyone

00:48:40.580 could see their like crotch like in class it was a good issue and then they had to i've never been

00:48:47.060 in that world so then so so whatever the point is dark units and then the other point is the

00:48:54.740 supremacy of the free people i think it's the good karma onesie okay continues to to sort of

00:49:02.240 sore in these classes. And it's interesting because it's one of my favorites and it's not

00:49:08.480 perfect, but it's a cut above the rest. Okay. And so it's holding strong in my Unitarn roundup from

00:49:15.200 last year, the goddamn free people. So I decide I'm going to free people late one night because 0.97

00:49:21.120 I have a class the next day and I want a fresh one. I look it up. I go, there's no way anything's

00:49:25.480 open i go maybe the mall oh okay i look it up up the mall westfield like free people fp movement

00:49:32.640 store open till 10 okay whoa go chris can we go to the mall the child okay yeah okay we go it's

00:49:42.140 like 9 15 i walk up someone's in there door's closed okay i'm staring in i'm going what the

00:49:49.020 hell every store in this mall is supposed to be open till 10 i start seeing that some are just

00:49:53.500 boldly closing early i drove there kate i got in a car no i drove there okay and i believed

00:50:00.340 i believe you knock on the door the hours i stared at the hours okay i just stared in and i i didn't

00:50:07.900 knock on the door and beg but i was irritated enough to walk 20 feet away and call the store

00:50:14.120 and go hey um you guys are open till 10 right

00:50:19.000 this is like a psychotic act

00:50:22.420 of like of like you know

00:50:24.440 because what am I even doing but I needed to

00:50:26.400 understand and it was sort of like

00:50:28.660 well actually

00:50:30.260 like this location

00:50:32.060 was very sort of questionable

00:50:34.500 it was like we normally and I'm like

00:50:36.420 you know it says a lot and they're like yeah

00:50:37.940 so then I'm like

00:50:40.080 okay so wait you didn't just like stand outside and wave

00:50:42.500 and go oh can I come in

00:50:43.880 no because it was just done I could just see

00:50:46.460 it was just over and there you gotta let them close

00:50:48.620 then you gotta let them go home so then a week later i'd go to return some beans at the grove

00:50:54.480 at that store in person return unimaginable okay i go let's now i'll walk to the grove be fun you

00:51:01.640 know i go open till whatever 10 9 whatever i show up within with 35 minutes to spare okay

00:51:07.960 the point is it was half hour plus before closing time same thing you're just closing up shop i knock

00:51:15.960 i see them i knock i'm like okay and they come over and they go we're doing inventory

00:51:22.580 so we close early on this night to do inventory and i go just return so sad and he goes i can

00:51:31.200 take it for you and take your information and return it first thing in the morning

00:51:34.140 and i go sure okay and chris was like you trust i walked away with no bag he's like you trust that 0.98

00:51:41.620 i was like fuck i was like i did trust it and i've been burned that really i've been burned 0.96

00:51:49.540 not with a specific scenario but things like that where you just you just think it's gonna 0.99

00:51:55.140 be fine because how could it not be and then there's no evidence and there's no there's no

00:51:59.400 whatever this is i'm sorry i'm like trying to trying to put people to sleep like actively you

00:52:04.440 included okay but then okay one more one more so then i decide i'm gonna hit a different free

00:52:12.860 people movement store okay before class to try to get a fresh a fresh uh unitard i go to the store

00:52:22.100 i've studied the the stuff online there's so many different unitards okay okay okay sorry sorry i'm

00:52:28.380 walking on ventura boulevard i know that the free people store does not contain the free people

00:52:32.260 movement stuff anymore because it's its own store now but i go holy shit i see a unitard in the

00:52:37.460 window i go oh my god i think they got it they got it finally this makes sense i go in i see the

00:52:43.160 mannequin with the unitard i go up to a tiny sign that says do you like this unitard go to fp

00:52:47.200 movement oh no so i go i should know fine go to fp movement go in they have two of their unitard

00:52:55.320 styles in stock okay only two you're saying yeah when they have like nine i went to the store so i

00:53:03.000 could try on the unitard styles that's crazy they're not there and i'm so sorry so boring

00:53:13.700 i just can't stop and i'm sorry but i just need you to understand you know the whole thing with

00:53:18.280 like nine colors okay it comes in like or like 15 colors and they had like two yeah

00:53:24.400 what where what it's yeah

00:53:28.460 no they're pushing us they're pushing us away they're pushing us online yeah

00:53:35.780 i oh i have a new ritual and it literally involves a sponsored product the hatch that

00:53:40.640 they sent us wait so you okay they deserve a little something kick them a little something

00:53:45.520 a little love yeah kick them well they're an actual thing that i don't need to record an ad 0.56

00:53:51.720 for you i don't know what's going on okay but they did send it you love it you texted me you're like

00:53:56.100 you're like i'm falling asleep to the hatch bird sounds i'm waking up to the natural light

00:53:59.380 yeah i thought great i gotta get one of these for my mother yes okay so i knew i now have a

00:54:04.300 nightly ritual which is instead of passing out on the couch and then and then going okay this

00:54:10.220 like i'm tired enough to sleep and running upstairs and then like quickly like brushing

00:54:13.680 my teeth and whatever i'm actually like actively going to bed okay huge congratulations i go up

00:54:19.180 there i play uh one audio book while i brush my teeth and do all that so i can just settle in and

00:54:25.820 i don't feel like i'm rushing through it i turn on the hatch to these ocean sounds white noise

00:54:31.400 sounds i'm really into white noise lately you know you can do that for yourself on your iphone

00:54:35.420 iphone has an unbelievable white noise continue so continue i get in bed i crank that's kind of

00:54:41.900 loud i kind of like it and i read like stuff like i read like joe dispenza like how to become

00:54:48.320 supernatural i read stuff that's like very like to me uplifting like neuroscience about oh this is

00:54:54.040 the heart okay the electromagnetic field that the heart generates three feet it can be measured

00:55:01.060 literally and by the way the heart is full of neurons it has its own brain it has its own

00:55:07.140 memories it's not just a blood pumper anyway we got to get our heart rate variability we got to

00:55:13.280 get our heart coherent sends more information to the brain and the brain sends to the heart

00:55:18.760 Wait, what?

00:55:22.540 Point is, I lie there.

00:55:24.220 And I read, and then I go, okay, okay, got it.

00:55:26.260 I'm going to take this.

00:55:27.200 I go, my eyes are starting to close, and I'm trying so hard to keep,

00:55:29.720 so I do the thing, I keep one awake, I mean, one open.

00:55:32.360 One eye open, yeah.

00:55:33.900 You're still reading with the heart.

00:55:35.800 And then I'm reading with the heart, and it's going, it's going.

00:55:37.540 And I go, okay, okay, lay down, put the phone down,

00:55:40.040 and then I go, I'm going to go off into my mind and do things like,

00:55:43.340 I'm going to, like, soar around in here and whatever,

00:55:45.440 and I'm going to go apply what I'm reading.

00:55:46.840 and off to bed i go and then

00:55:49.600 i couldn't think about how to make a bird sound so i was

00:55:56.500 your language all right tell me about your life we've got to get into jewish mysticism

00:56:03.620 i'm feeling the and you know kabbalah i'm going to be the person who's in a kabbalah class

00:56:10.000 yeah now in los angeles in 1998 yeah yeah exactly yeah rabbinical or hellenistic i'm

00:56:16.720 not sure which one but the point is we have nothing we have nothing but but this heart

00:56:23.660 stuff okay like you know the heart math institute nope so like they've been measuring like their

00:56:30.220 hearts magnetic electromagnetic field whatever for years okay again and and even like their

00:56:37.620 instagram account is kind of like the graphics look a little goofy but the information's quality

00:56:42.040 goofy graphics will fuck you it's no no no it's like it's like the the incredible information 0.67

00:56:49.240 that's been lost to the goofy graphic and then the pristine graphic familiar graphic that says 0.99

00:56:56.720 nothing but that you know it's like it really is shocking yeah yeah well at this point right

00:57:01.340 the right font on it and it's almost at this point the sort of not good design is starting

00:57:08.720 to become a symbol of like they're really doing science intelligence yeah totally yeah it's not

00:57:13.380 like they like had money and just hired like and everything is graphic designer yeah yeah so 0.91

00:57:19.020 breathing exercises it's like you can measure on your goddamn iphone okay okay apparently like

00:57:26.480 the heart rate variability thing you can actually measure for me the data helps okay data helps it's 0.97

00:57:31.240 not just you know you can measure your heart from your iphone what i mean you can heart rate

00:57:38.320 variability i think is the thing and now like i think like the apple watch tracks it anyway and

00:57:42.520 lets you know like your heart rate variability i'm vehemently anti-apple watch we know okay we

00:57:48.200 know girl we don't we haven't talked about no this isn't about we have about trying to save

00:57:53.360 ourselves no no you can't be walking around with an apple watch on and expect humanity no i know

00:57:59.780 i know unless you're at a fall risk unless you're a fall risk yes for the elderly for the criminally

00:58:06.140 insane who not or you know somebody is that even a term anymore it sounds correct i don't think so

00:58:13.900 i've been i was making myself laugh today i called i said something about criminally insane i think

00:58:18.040 it's an s it was a law and order thing i was like the criminally insane it's like oh definitely

00:58:22.920 doesn't mean it's like you can't yeah or it just what does that mean yeah like like people that

00:58:28.640 have been like deranged by you know poverty but they're not insane anyway but no i don't think

00:58:35.760 that's what it referred to i mean i think i think i think it just meant they're criminals

00:58:40.060 okay like like it's criminally insane is that even the term he doesn't need an apple watch 0.99

00:58:47.620 criminally insane wait is that the term like you're so insane you're so crazy that you're 0.98

00:58:53.300 running into the street with knives slicing and dicing because you've lost it criminal 0.83

00:58:57.360 no okay so by the way martin bashears michael jackson doc required watch has have you seen it 0.95

00:59:04.600 no are you absolutely fucking kidding me i need everyone to write in maybe it's an age thing but 0.85

00:59:10.400 no no martin bashears michael jackson one hour bbc special unfortunately some segments are 0.98

00:59:17.260 missing from youtube one of the most oh haunting fucking psychotic things you'll ever see but 0.67

00:59:22.680 unbelievable and also the access they had to mj where he's back there and they're like i mean it's 0.99

00:59:28.380 really fucking wrenching it's talking about his dad beating the absolute fucking shit out of them 0.98

00:59:32.140 yeah and it's like this really where you're like oh right of course you went on to become this 0.99

00:59:35.980 like you were by the way you can't let people get so famous by the time they're six and expect them

00:59:41.580 not to become child rapists and psychopaths you can't give people that it's like and of course 0.52

00:59:46.020 you know it's it's like he's but then yeah but it's amazing he goes to las vegas to like hang

00:59:50.660 out he's like he's like i was visiting michael in las vegas he wanted like he's living in in

00:59:56.100 you know some crazy hotel top floor he has a little automatic like um wheelchair like an

01:00:02.800 electric wheelchair and he's like yeah at night when i can't sleep i just roam the halls are you

01:00:07.100 hearing this michael jackson in the chair alone roaming the halls of a las vegas hotel at like

01:00:12.220 4 a.m because he can't sleep okay and then it's him in this thing and he's playing video games

01:00:16.760 and he has huge like insane bizarre sculptures in there like the green giant like the jolly green

01:00:22.320 giant like he's like figures from his childhood from ads and he goes into a las vegas store and

01:00:27.420 he's buying things and it's it's really actually influential for me it's like he goes in he's like

01:00:31.700 i want that i want that i'll take that oh that's pretty and he's pointing at like fabricate eggs

01:00:35.280 that are like you know 220 000 like most hideous thing you've ever seen he's like isn't that

01:00:40.180 beautiful you know he's like buying all this like he's buying like huge like egyptian like fake like 0.96

01:00:44.540 the most like grotesque shit you could ever see yeah and he drops like he truly drops like two 0.98

01:00:50.160 million dollars like just one little shopping visit and like what kind of story i don't know 0.99

01:00:54.140 how i got on that no this is interesting what kind of store is this like like it's like what

01:00:59.020 kind of los angeles store is it like las vegas oh sorry a key wait you said usually influential

01:01:05.340 do you mean like not like comedically influential yeah yeah not aspirational yeah no um i mean i

01:01:12.000 didn't think you meant aspirational but i was curious what you meant wait wait wait take me

01:01:15.240 back where were you imagine someone's like who you're like who is like who you aspire to michael

01:01:21.100 jackson well by the way i actually had i had when one of my sick when i had a cold and i was doing

01:01:27.720 my show kate here in la and i was doing you know eight shows a week yeah and there was one day i

01:01:32.960 never cracked i never cried i never broke down and i can't do this but there was one day where i

01:01:36.760 felt i just felt so run down and really yes emotionally and just like truly just physically 0.66

01:01:42.360 exhausted and the most fucked up thing i said i said i have sympathy for michael jackson 0.81

01:01:47.720 i was like in terms of kind of like i just meant like performer or i'm like judy garland i'm like 0.95

01:01:54.200 these people it's like i'm not even performing uh you know one hundredth of like what they were

01:02:00.080 doing these people of course he needed industrial horse tranquilizer to take a nap imagine the

01:02:08.340 energy he was absorbing on stage every night the ghosts and spirits attaching to him well sure

01:02:13.900 we never figured out so it was a ghost that i saw this is a really all over the place one sorry

01:02:19.140 folks and i am not how would you apologize for being all over michael jackson i want to say

01:02:22.900 whatever you know i'm not gonna you know i'm not gonna engage in yeah no be littling or diminishing

01:02:27.080 our audience is smart enough people know i'm not up here going i don't like michael jackson i think 0.75

01:02:30.500 he's a cool guy and i'm glad he he absolutely savagely raped children for centuries without

01:02:34.500 anyone caring like obviously i'm not saying that but i do do i feel a little bad for the guy yeah

01:02:39.300 i'm human enough to to know that he went through hell

01:02:42.860 but okay cut it no no i enjoyed all that wait wait wait but there was something wait hold on

01:02:50.880 hold on oh i don't know man i don't know i just can't soar i'm fine i'm relaxed you're relaxed

01:03:00.120 that's great hey hey look at us by the unusual for us a late afternoon poob it's five o'clock

01:03:06.700 here what i'm gonna do required mandatory have to go on a walk 40 minute stroll um i gotta get

01:03:15.920 you to dinner yeah we never did our our celebration of the poop tour dinner i'm ready whenever

01:03:20.640 okay great this is huge i love going out to dinner yeah you and i i need a steak i need

01:03:26.640 onion rings i need a lychee martini stat i have a question i have a good question 0.98

01:03:32.820 okay i have another restaurant is there a smoothie at air one that isn't um fucking 0.97

01:03:37.120 no the smoothies at air ones are for 12 year olds you don't get the smoothie at air one that's a 0.96

01:03:41.320 complete rookie move you don't go to get hair ones i mean to be clear i'm not no i'm saying

01:03:45.760 this to others i'm just saying this to the culture it's like no that's for 12 and also

01:03:48.880 like the ones that are like you know so and so well here's actually something people don't know

01:03:53.820 at air one you can make your own smoothie yeah like the smoothies the ones that they have that

01:03:58.440 are at least 18 that are ridiculous that go to foster's freeze like what actually no well that's

01:04:05.800 maybe that's only a california thing it's an ice cream place but the point is you oh go to 0.70

01:04:09.640 you're like a local girl like go to baskin and robbins folks go to salt and straw yeah yeah but

01:04:17.660 um the smoothies are ridiculous you don't you can make your own smoothie there with minimal

01:04:23.140 ingredients that are smaller for like ten dollars but i got the soft serve there i was curious the 0.99

01:04:27.920 coconut soft serve tasted like coal whip i wasn't impressed um wait fuck i i had said something oh 0.67

01:04:33.860 well i i wanted to so there's a there's a minimally disgraced restaurant in los angeles that i'm 0.97

01:04:39.760 i had one of the most fabulous nights out meals out i've had in a long time um oh okay listen to

01:04:46.360 this listen to this maybe i'll talk about where i was another time but it's too embarrassing to

01:04:50.380 drop the name so i ate at this place many many months ago and at the end of the meal

01:04:55.740 had such an ecstatic experience with the server we hugged at the end okay amazing we hugged

01:05:01.940 months and months pass i go on a sexy date on a great meal we go top to bottom excellent meal

01:05:11.520 oh moaning over the flavors beautiful ambience i go where am i new york city bottom i was

01:05:17.560 imagining the hug from the waiter okay okay time being top to bottom so listen to this

01:05:21.600 entry so last time i was there many many months prior i made a note in my phone with the name of

01:05:28.720 the server i made a note on my phone of the name of like the bartenders yeah so i could come back

01:05:34.420 hey because i thought i'd be back in like two weeks right i'm connecting having i'm sailing 0.98

01:05:40.020 at the dinner i go fuck i don't remember their fucking name by the way not a crime how who would 0.97

01:05:46.180 like that's okay i go to the bathroom i go wait if i know something about myself i look at my note 0.99

01:05:52.660 full names with positions at the restaurant i had made a note three different names so then i come

01:05:59.280 out emboldened so you didn't actually remember that you you took the note you go i bet i was

01:06:03.940 smart enough to take a note kind of thing yep i go i know myself i bet i took the note and i had

01:06:08.480 taking the note come back and i had said i had said to my sweetheart on the way there i was

01:06:13.980 laughing about how last time i came here i'm not gonna make any promises but i connected so deeply

01:06:17.940 that i got a hug okay another reason they got a hug we both mutually went in for the hug at the

01:06:21.520 same time okay we're laughing about that and they're making fun of me okay guess what happened

01:06:26.740 again different server a natural hug and embrace at the end of the meal because we were popping

01:06:31.620 off so hard had so much fun oh wow do they have cocktails natural hug do they have cocktails

01:06:38.460 cocktails yeah the cocktails are so explosive i ordered okay i like a cocktail menu to look at it

01:06:43.600 i don't order off a cocktail menu i'm not like i'll have the lavender infused gin i don't give 0.99

01:06:47.280 a shit i want classic cocktails only what a bitch their cocktails are so transcendent i i i'm 0.99

01:06:52.880 disgusted i'm horrified because of migraines because of migraines they're always too sweet 1.00

01:06:57.340 for me i can't do it i ordered off they're usually the bar menu they were incredible

01:07:02.600 also they serve till 1am

01:07:04.880 it's horses everyone knows I'm talking about horses

01:07:06.760 I've never been

01:07:08.440 we're gonna go

01:07:09.500 what kind of food is it? exquisite

01:07:12.000 Italian? I guess it's a brasserie 1.00

01:07:14.720 kind of like

01:07:15.900 explosive food

01:07:18.200 some darkness transpired over there

01:07:20.840 the owners believe it's been switched of hands

01:07:22.720 the monster is no longer there

01:07:24.460 okay

01:07:25.480 great well

01:07:27.820 love ya

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Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - March 05, 2024

Warm in the Hand

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