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00:02:39.380 Hi, I'm Kate Berlant.

00:02:40.880 I'm Jacqueline Novak.

00:02:41.940 And this is POOG, an ongoing conversation about wellness between two obsessive friends.

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00:02:55.920 Sack Lunch, Sedona, Panna Cotta.

00:03:03.460 I made the bed.

00:03:05.340 I haven't done it in years.

00:03:06.580 Cleaned up slightly.

00:03:07.460 I'm a little, I'm growing a little tired of living out of a suitcase.

00:03:11.920 Officially.

00:03:13.140 Well, question, do you unpack?

00:03:15.300 No.

00:03:16.100 Not at all?

00:03:16.660 I mean, no, that's not true. Slightly. Yes, slightly. But it's so easy for it to spiral

00:03:21.760 into absolute chaos. And I, of course, brought way too much clothing, whatever. I don't want

00:03:28.640 to talk about packing. It's so excruciatingly boring. It's interesting you say that as it's

00:03:32.780 a topic we've enjoyed and I've actually received feedback from close friends that if that was all

00:03:37.500 the podcast was, they'd be happy. In fact, they wouldn't mind if we leaned a little more in that

00:03:41.580 direction okay okay i'm open to that and also it's my life right now well i know me too i did

00:03:48.940 what i laid down on the floor everything that i take to the theater okay this is because that's

00:03:56.500 gonna have to be one realm the packing the stuff that leaves the hotel room every night going on

00:04:02.800 tour jokes not like the calm dear god get tickets okay so i lay that all out and then i'm figuring

00:04:09.580 out what is going to go and what, the whole thing. And then I have huge news. Okay. I've reached out

00:04:15.940 to the Tom Bean people. I don't know if that's how it's pronounced. It's B-I-H-N. To me, clearly

00:04:20.020 Bean is sort of right. But Ben, we're getting backpacks. We're getting backpacks. I'm so 0.98

00:04:25.840 excited. I don't have a backpack. Yeah, I knew that. And so I went for it and I was like,

00:04:31.440 I sent you the site, but I knew you were not going to be able to go deep because it's a rabbit hole.

00:04:37.920 And so I was like, Kate, you want the Cynic 30?

00:04:41.760 S-Y-N-I-K.

00:04:42.840 Yeah, I was like, just ask for whatever. 0.99

00:04:44.680 They're like, it's the one you've been waiting for is the tagline under it

00:04:47.600 because they've incorporated feedback from the community.

00:04:51.320 All I'll say for the backpack heads out there, full clamshell.

00:04:55.960 What does that mean?

00:04:57.160 Well, picture how a clamshell opens.

00:04:59.380 Okay.

00:04:59.900 Backpack does that.

00:05:00.980 Okay.

00:05:01.600 So they just lay it back down.

00:05:03.000 No.

00:05:03.580 Although there is a like...

00:05:05.120 I don't want it hard.

00:05:05.960 You can have that hardens it up.

00:05:07.120 Okay, so lay the backpack down, like just throw it on the bed.

00:05:10.460 Can you imagine? 0.99

00:05:11.540 And then open it up like a fucking clam. 1.00

00:05:13.680 Cute. 0.99

00:05:14.080 Okay, all the way down, flat. 1.00

00:05:16.320 Clams don't open all the way, 180 degrees.

00:05:18.260 You know what would transform my life?

00:05:19.660 What?

00:05:20.000 So I have a carry-on that I've cursed for years, which is one that might—

00:05:23.000 Okay, the one you haul.

00:05:24.540 Yeah, you've seen me.

00:05:25.720 I've seen you, yeah.

00:05:26.920 Go on.

00:05:27.140 Sorry, sorry. 1.00

00:05:27.480 I'm not talking about the wheelie.

00:05:28.360 I'm talking about the black bag that sits on top of my wheelie.

00:05:30.240 Oh, I know.

00:05:30.820 You know the bag.

00:05:31.580 Before you left for New York, I was like, you're not going to the airport with that.

00:05:36.320 I know.

00:05:36.700 just slung over one shoulder. Exactly. It's chaos. And constantly cursing it. I'm constantly on the

00:05:43.040 jetway screaming and also remarking to people, I hate this thing. It's been a couple of times

00:05:49.180 getting into a car or something like, oh, sorry about this. This thing, I hate this thing. A few

00:05:54.260 times I've gone, I'm going to burn this. They don't know why I'm saying that. Do they love that?

00:05:58.540 No, no reaction almost. Oh, wow. And this backpack could really change a lot for me. So I'm excited.

00:06:05.020 it's a really big deal and there's like this insert that uh like folds out that your laptop

00:06:10.480 can go and specifically i'm like looking into whoa uh looking that's why you were asking me

00:06:14.960 what kind of laptop i have yeah yeah i was like flying ahead i was like i was like i have to move

00:06:20.320 swiftly before the mood changes over to over tom bean and i'm like anyway i'm gonna maybe also ask

00:06:26.900 for the laptop thing i'm just really excited about it and um i think i'm gonna do a thing like they

00:06:33.880 have these like nearly like perverted like videos on their site where they like show it being packed

00:06:40.100 up in all these compartments they lay all the stuff out that fits in the bag like spread all

00:06:44.660 the way out and then you see it all in the bag and it's just so excited about that i want tatcha

00:06:51.280 i want the tatcha people to reach out this morning i came across two tatcha items that i i don't

00:06:57.360 remember where they came about that mask from a shoot once the vitamin c mask yes from the infamous

00:07:02.860 In an effort to save it for a day when I deserve it,

00:07:05.820 it's obviously spoiled on the shelf, I'm sure, by now.

00:07:08.100 Because that's vitamin C, right?

00:07:10.640 Yeah.

00:07:11.220 I mean, vitamin C is the thing that rots.

00:07:13.520 But I feel like maybe the fact that it's sort of dispersed into the cream.

00:07:17.620 It's different.

00:07:18.320 Yeah.

00:07:18.840 This morning, I finally finished that Josie Argon face cream,

00:07:24.500 but I was worried that it's been rotting.

00:07:27.860 Like, my hands dipped.

00:07:28.860 Yeah. Yeah. No, when the hands dipping into the jar, creating the Petri dish in the jar.

00:07:33.900 So I like rubbed it like all over my body. I was thinking of you like almost like,

00:07:36.940 you know, like bottom of the feet, like too afraid to put it on the face, but I finished it

00:07:41.000 and in it goes recycled. Okay. I've pulled the product this morning. So I got it this morning.

00:07:46.760 I went down to my chair. I put on my sunlamp because I've been doing the protocol back in,

00:07:51.140 you know, sunlamp in the morning. Okay. Reset the circadian rhythm. People don't understand.

00:07:56.260 it's not just about waking up. If you do the sunlamp in the morning, it suppresses the

00:08:01.880 melatonin, right? Thus setting up a cyclical cycle that then later on that night produces

00:08:08.580 the melatonin, the suppression. So just saying, get into it. Carex lamp. And today I blast red

00:08:16.860 light as well. I'm doubling up, red light on the skin, on the full torso and face. And then I did

00:08:23.780 three of our devices. Okay. I haven't done any skincare in months.

00:08:28.520 But that's not true.

00:08:29.400 It actually is. Like I have not applied a single serum.

00:08:31.760 Jaclyn.

00:08:32.200 Like in two weeks. No, I've spritzed, of course, because habit stacking, they're everywhere.

00:08:38.100 Well, two weeks and three months is a big difference.

00:08:40.640 No. Okay. Well, no, but I haven't used a device really in like three months.

00:08:44.440 Yeah. I've only really been doing gua sha. I sound exactly true. I've been doing my zip

00:08:48.160 just for acne.

00:08:49.360 So face massage the whole thing. This morning I did it. I tried to take a little video to be like,

00:08:52.920 see if one side of the face if it was visible like I did pure lift so I did pure lift

00:08:57.720 I want that device for free yeah I I gave it to myself for Christmas like two years ago does it

00:09:04.540 work well all I know is that you feel it and so I'm like those muscles are twitching oh you feel

00:09:10.920 I had it used on me at face gym I had it used on me yeah it actually was a little alarming yeah

00:09:17.180 It's like vibrating my incisor or whatever.

00:09:19.960 Yeah.

00:09:20.540 But I just drag a tongue across the incisor.

00:09:23.320 And it's not microcurrent.

00:09:24.640 It's electromagnetic something or something.

00:09:27.520 It's electric.

00:09:28.120 I forget what it is.

00:09:28.980 It's not micro.

00:09:30.260 But yeah, it goes deeper.

00:09:32.500 Like literally like goes to a deeper layer of muscle.

00:09:35.720 Which to me is where cheek squats.

00:09:37.680 You know, like this is like, as I believe, one of the keys.

00:09:40.920 Yeah.

00:09:41.240 I did my own buckle massage. 1.00

00:09:43.360 You know this shit? 1.00

00:09:44.100 No. 1.00

00:09:44.400 One thumb in the mouth.

00:09:46.060 Ew. 0.99

00:09:47.440 Oh, up the cheeks? 0.98

00:09:48.820 Up the cheeks. 1.00

00:09:50.360 Release the jaw.

00:09:51.780 I did derma roll.

00:09:52.900 Why today?

00:09:54.640 Because I'm sitting there under the sunlamp.

00:09:56.880 So I'm trapped in a location.

00:09:59.780 And it's like I'm sitting next to my shelf with all my products.

00:10:03.480 Another atomic habit thing, environmental cues.

00:10:06.180 Yeah.

00:10:06.900 It's like if it's there.

00:10:08.520 And I just, I don't know, I'm in treatment mode.

00:10:12.420 It was also like 7 a.m.

00:10:13.960 Oh, yeah.

00:10:14.200 You texted me so early.

00:10:15.520 Yeah.

00:10:15.760 You know why?

00:10:16.260 The sun lamp, the melatonin production.

00:10:18.840 Yeah, it's simply a suppression, but it's setting me.

00:10:23.100 So I'm just doll's eyes opening up in the morning at six, six fifty fives.

00:10:30.460 How many hours are you getting right now?

00:10:33.180 Oh, I mean, a little less like seven when I accidentally wake up like that.

00:10:37.780 But like and for some people, seven's OK.

00:10:39.680 There's actually a misconception that like eight.

00:10:41.740 It's like for me, it's actually not enough.

00:10:44.020 It's the bare minimum.

00:10:45.260 Yeah.

00:10:45.780 I used to, well, I used to, 11 was bare minimum for me for years.

00:10:50.160 Or no, no, 13.

00:10:51.540 Sorry.

00:10:51.800 No, it was 13 because it was one hour after the hour I'd gone to bed plus 12.

00:10:57.760 See what I'm saying?

00:10:58.980 So go to bed at two, wake up at three.

00:11:00.920 Oh my God.

00:11:02.960 I mean, there were a lot of things going on there.

00:11:05.880 Yeah, it's hard.

00:11:07.160 I've been doing like 11, 10, 12 the other night.

00:11:10.800 So last night I got nine and a half and I'm tired today.

00:11:13.500 Well, I mean, okay, the depression years, you know, I was ahead of the curve on research,

00:11:19.480 okay, and on this, right?

00:11:20.800 So I ordered from Switzerland back in the day, this thing, this was pre-Apple Watch,

00:11:27.060 you know, it was pre the other things that would measure where you are in your sleep 0.92

00:11:30.160 cycle and wake your ass up, right? 0.99

00:11:32.140 And wake your ass up. 0.98

00:11:33.520 I don't know what happened there. 0.98

00:11:34.680 I spaced out, actually.

00:11:35.760 Yeah, that's okay.

00:11:36.180 I felt myself spaced out and then culture came in.

00:11:39.320 Yeah, and took over.

00:11:40.180 So I ordered this like weird, clear plastic clock from Switzerland that had a wrist thing

00:11:48.060 you added on.

00:11:49.320 I mean, this is like 2009, 2007.

00:11:54.940 And by the way, you told me to drive.

00:11:57.260 Okay.

00:11:57.760 So I just need the listener to understand.

00:11:59.960 You are driving.

00:12:01.080 I know.

00:12:01.660 That's what I say.

00:12:02.440 Like, that's why I'm just talking.

00:12:03.660 Tell the listener.

00:12:04.420 I texted Jacqueline, you got to drive.

00:12:07.180 You got to drive this up.

00:12:08.280 So I'll tell you a few more things about me

00:12:09.480 and then we'll launch into diving.

00:12:10.880 I'll dive deep into you, okay?

00:12:12.500 Okay, great.

00:12:13.760 So, well, this is about you, actually.

00:12:16.480 I just realized it's my knowledge, your life.

00:12:18.700 So it's not just about quantity, okay?

00:12:22.820 She ons, okay?

00:12:23.800 It's not just about quantity, okay?

00:12:26.120 So it's about where you wake up in the sleep cycle.

00:12:28.980 Yeah.

00:12:29.600 Okay, if you are roused during REM, for example,

00:12:33.860 or whatever it is, right?

00:12:35.120 There's a point in the sleep cycle.

00:12:36.080 So these devices, what they would do, I mean, I used to not be able to get up, okay?

00:12:43.140 Yeah, yeah, totally.

00:12:44.200 I mean, like, just could not retain consciousness.

00:12:48.040 And then I'd go, hours pass, it's evening, you know, walk down to the corner store in New York City and chug a vitamin water.

00:12:56.180 Just, it was, so, so, so.

00:13:02.860 vitamin water is that what that memory was no it was actually remembering that at that corner

00:13:08.980 store i would get um coffee heat spark crunch before they changed it to non-gmo ingredients

00:13:14.120 aka when it tasted right they changed the formula yeah they like no longer use what's gmo

00:13:20.380 in the heat i'm throwing out gmo there in kind of a vague sense but no i mean i mean

00:13:26.860 the cocoa sounds like greenwashing well that's what i mean it's reverse greenwashing 0.87

00:13:31.580 you know I'm like it was shit um what am I trying to say oh oh so your sleep cycle okay yeah now 0.97

00:13:40.960 there's about 63 different ways okay 74 apps I'm definitely dehydrated that will figure out 0.98

00:13:47.500 water where you need uh to wake up so your phone okay whatever you lay it next to your pillow

00:13:53.640 there's these apps it senses where you are in the sleep cycle based on how moving how much you're 0.97

00:13:59.160 moving well you know what's really disgusting and i'm gonna fucking say it okay you know i was 1.00

00:14:05.800 about to recommend like the real shit and then i was like she's too much of a fucking snob to ever 0.99

00:14:12.960 consider wearing an apple watch and i've been meaning to talk about this for a while with you 0.99

00:14:16.960 okay you wear an apple watch no you don't sure do now okay not as a out and about uh status item

00:14:24.840 I'm fine with you

00:14:26.000 I wear it for tracking workouts

00:14:27.560 I wear it for tracking sleep

00:14:29.280 no I hear you

00:14:30.080 but here's my question

00:14:30.820 because like

00:14:31.680 remember the whole thing

00:14:32.600 with the phone

00:14:33.180 it's like oh the steps

00:14:34.200 but then it turns out 1.00

00:14:35.120 like it's total bullshit 1.00

00:14:35.980 like it's like 1.00

00:14:36.800 your phone actually

00:14:37.720 can't measure your steps

00:14:38.640 like all this stuff

00:14:39.540 like I'm sure the Apple Watch

00:14:41.500 has more accuracy

00:14:42.440 but something about

00:14:44.280 this is laughable

00:14:45.040 put the phone on the thing

00:14:46.280 and it

00:14:46.560 what?

00:14:47.600 absolutely laughable

00:14:48.200 why?

00:14:48.600 okay okay yeah

00:14:49.340 put the phone on the thing

00:14:50.600 if you're not gonna

00:14:51.380 I'll wait

00:14:52.120 what do you mean?

00:14:53.520 I'm just looking at my finger

00:14:54.720 Oh.

00:14:56.980 Okay.

00:14:57.760 Okay.

00:14:58.520 Look, if you're not going to order a specialty device from Switzerland, which you're not,

00:15:03.900 the next step is using the phone, laying it next to the thing.

00:15:07.620 I'll try it.

00:15:08.580 Okay.

00:15:09.180 But really, there's about 62,000 wearables. 0.99

00:15:14.180 And then you put them the fuck on. 0.99

00:15:16.560 Okay. 0.99

00:15:16.960 And we've been sent them.

00:15:17.840 Not an Apple Watch, but you have an Oura ring waiting for you at home.

00:15:23.100 That's exciting.

00:15:23.500 You actually, you sold me on that.

00:15:25.140 It was a big ticket item.

00:15:25.620 You sold me on that.

00:15:26.060 I'm going to give it a try.

00:15:27.180 If I send you the data, you know, it tells you whatever, how much sleep you got, how

00:15:30.560 good it was, everything.

00:15:32.600 But I want you to get woken up at the right time.

00:15:35.320 Okay?

00:15:35.620 Me too.

00:15:36.820 So, first of all, the Apple Watch can measure your steps.

00:15:41.200 You want to know how?

00:15:42.640 No, I believe the Apple Watch can.

00:15:44.460 It knows you're walking.

00:15:44.940 I'm saying the phone has been debunked.

00:15:47.180 The phone has not been debunked because here's why it has a GPS in it.

00:15:50.040 So it can track exactly where you've gone.

00:15:53.020 Okay?

00:15:53.500 I thought it was tracking the kerplunk of your foot.

00:15:57.060 That's a different thing.

00:15:58.880 It tracks a few things at once, but no, it's not.

00:16:01.260 I mean, there is a gyrometer or whatever.

00:16:04.320 Okay.

00:16:04.800 Look, I don't want the answers,

00:16:06.020 but I know those aren't questions that are breaking it down.

00:16:10.420 So give me your problem.

00:16:13.280 Give me your issue.

00:16:14.180 I can feel your...

00:16:15.320 Well, by the way, I'm definitely dehydrated.

00:16:16.900 So I decided, well, I'm going to drink during Pug and that'll be...

00:16:19.820 Oh my God.

00:16:20.720 I got a drink.

00:16:22.460 Wow.

00:16:23.500 is that plastic yeah don't get me started you got to i don't have the filtration system here

00:16:30.860 so i'm having to drink plastic i have a takaya whatever it's called like big 64 ounce

00:16:37.240 thermos thing that's huge it looks like a lantern i'm carrying around new york city

00:16:41.900 and i fill that up what'd you say takaya yeah i saw kendall jenner had one on keeping up with

00:16:50.160 the Kardashians 0.99

00:16:50.840 when I did my

00:16:51.460 Is it Takaya

00:16:51.620 or are you just

00:16:52.060 thinking of the

00:16:52.760 the restaurant?

00:16:54.640 Because Takaya

00:16:55.700 Mexican 0.93

00:16:56.200 Organic Mexican

00:16:57.020 No 0.93

00:16:57.520 no no no 1.00

00:16:58.220 Takaya bitch 1.00

00:16:59.540 T-A-K-E 1.00

00:17:00.340 You know what 1.00

00:17:00.780 T-A-K-E-Y

00:17:03.660 and I got

00:17:04.900 the 64 ounce

00:17:05.900 one

00:17:06.140 it's absolutely

00:17:06.960 huge

00:17:07.460 and so I

00:17:08.460 filled it up

00:17:08.900 at the theater

00:17:09.480 but then I

00:17:10.420 We have 64 ounce

00:17:11.360 I'm lugging water

00:17:12.180 back and forth

00:17:12.840 like prehistoric

00:17:13.840 era

00:17:14.220 Yeah

00:17:14.860 Chopped wood

00:17:18.060 carry water 0.99

00:17:19.840 water my mom has said that to me in my darker moments yeah it's the goddamn truth i chopped 0.97

00:17:25.480 you know what chopping wood is too taking out the trash obviously to say that absolute obvious 0.90

00:17:30.160 took out the trash made the bed i was like okay okay new god suddenly understood yeah just it

00:17:37.660 was a subtle shift open the body okay yeah looking outside sky's pretty blue but i am blaming

00:17:43.960 dehydration on my last night on stage i started to get almost dizzy and i was like well probably 0.71

00:17:48.880 because you've had like 16 ounces of water today bitch it's wild i had to breathe through it there 0.58

00:17:54.300 are days where i you know pray for that i mean i brought a glass of water up here i was like 0.98

00:17:59.520 i've already had two coffees i'm going to try to not and then i was like i can't i need it and so

00:18:05.140 then i brought water with it and i'm having a couple sips um but there's something i wanted

00:18:10.540 to say though your hydration right uh oh the 64 ounce thing right and then when's the last time

00:18:18.260 you had a Cosmo policy oh um well my dad will make them on on request no and so back in like

00:18:25.800 the Cosmo launch period you mean section city he would offer them he never watched it but he just

00:18:34.080 was like you know heard of it or whatever my mother would order it or something and like you

00:18:39.220 know of course there's like this oh the Cosmo like tastes good and they came back last summer

00:18:45.020 like two summers ago.

00:18:46.700 There's a throwback.

00:18:47.460 Yeah.

00:18:47.940 Yeah.

00:18:48.380 There's something 0.94

00:18:49.000 and they're goddamn good. 0.72

00:18:50.820 You know what I'm interested in right now? 0.96

00:18:52.260 Lemon poppy smoothie,

00:18:53.680 Dr. Hyman recipe.

00:18:54.920 What?

00:18:55.340 Lemon poppy. 1.00

00:18:56.540 Poppy.

00:18:56.960 As in poppy seeds. 0.93

00:18:58.380 Stop.

00:18:58.620 Apparently they're good.

00:19:00.340 Oh, wait, wait, wait.

00:19:01.800 What?

00:19:02.040 What's this recipe?

00:19:03.540 Remember I was saying

00:19:04.380 that I'm trying to get,

00:19:05.340 because my father was like,

00:19:06.300 I'm on a protein smoothie.

00:19:07.400 I said, what?

00:19:07.920 We got to get him off.

00:19:09.120 Yeah.

00:19:10.380 He's on like sawdust powder.

00:19:12.480 Yeah.

00:19:12.680 Fell backwards,

00:19:13.460 like a vertical line.

00:19:15.020 Yeah.

00:19:15.460 Yeah.

00:19:16.580 So, he's like, yeah, he's like, my sister, I told you, got him the Vitamix.

00:19:22.620 Oh, I didn't know that.

00:19:23.340 For Christmas.

00:19:24.120 Wow, big ticket item.

00:19:25.660 That ain't cheap.

00:19:26.500 Yeah.

00:19:27.000 And so, he's doing his athletic greens now, but he's doing it inside of a smoothie, including, you know, lettuce, greens, whatever.

00:19:35.140 He's like, I'm experimenting.

00:19:36.340 He's like, got a protein butter, whatever.

00:19:37.720 And then he said that.

00:19:38.280 And then he was like, threw some peanuts in there.

00:19:39.900 I was like, all right.

00:19:41.340 Peanuts?

00:19:41.680 I got to look up some recipes.

00:19:42.620 that's

00:19:44.640 wait you did say he threw some peanuts in there

00:19:46.760 sure he did

00:19:48.180 he said nuts and then he said peanuts

00:19:50.420 and I was like

00:19:51.720 peanuts are actively bad for you

00:19:54.720 I know but I don't remember why

00:19:56.940 and so I couldn't pull it up

00:19:58.260 if the data I give him is false

00:20:00.520 like it seeds doubt

00:20:02.700 hurts the case yeah of course

00:20:04.200 with my other recommendations I have to be careful

00:20:06.580 but I was like alright I need to give you some recipes

00:20:08.380 because he's also making them for my mother

00:20:10.120 and he was like

00:20:11.220 she likes them a little sweeter, you know, like, I don't know.

00:20:15.000 So I might put some honey in there.

00:20:16.160 I was like, hold, please.

00:20:18.260 Yeah.

00:20:18.760 Hold.

00:20:19.400 Okay.

00:20:20.440 And then I was like, I was like, okay, I think he was like, thank God not putting, you know, bananas.

00:20:25.760 By the way, honey, peanuts.

00:20:26.660 I'm trying to manage their glucose.

00:20:28.340 Fab, yeah.

00:20:29.860 Although that hyper overwrapped banana is filled with probiotics and easier to digest.

00:20:34.900 And that unrivened banana is loaded with prebiotics.

00:20:37.560 Right.

00:20:37.860 So you got to do both.

00:20:39.300 No true banana.

00:20:40.320 You need one green and one brown, I guess.

00:20:42.620 I want seed.

00:20:43.660 If there's a yellow banana in your smoothie, get out.

00:20:46.160 Oh, my God.

00:20:47.140 That's really true.

00:20:49.360 The bananas that are like at the airport, they're the size of a forearm that are always Crayola yellow.

00:20:56.620 Wait.

00:20:58.020 Lemon poppy smoothie with vanilla powder.

00:21:00.200 Okay, thank you.

00:21:00.780 I knew there was like, you're like, there's something in this for me.

00:21:03.380 Where is it?

00:21:04.100 Mark Hyman has a new girlfriend.

00:21:05.380 Have you seen?

00:21:07.960 No.

00:21:08.400 yeah he posted

00:21:10.040 I remember

00:21:10.940 I remember

00:21:12.560 the content of this

00:21:14.060 I remember like

00:21:14.780 our podcast

00:21:15.440 by the way

00:21:16.080 maybe this was years ago now 0.97

00:21:17.180 who fucking knows 0.97

00:21:18.180 but following Mark Hyman 0.99

00:21:19.500 on Instagram

00:21:20.200 and it was like

00:21:20.880 him being like

00:21:21.880 me and my wife

00:21:22.940 like here we are

00:21:24.320 and then I was like

00:21:25.400 oh

00:21:25.860 and then about

00:21:27.100 I don't know

00:21:27.840 fairly recently

00:21:28.580 he posts to Grid

00:21:30.480 some new broad

00:21:31.580 and I go 0.99

00:21:32.680 Marky

00:21:33.520 uh oh

00:21:35.820 but i was like good for i was like good for both of them yeah wait a minute wait a minute okay now

00:21:43.420 we're really getting worried because i'm on his grid right now i don't see that post anymore oh

00:21:48.040 really did he take off the to the new love of my life maybe maybe it caused too much of a stir

00:21:54.380 i'm sure it did because wait it's like the post is gone sorry i'm just opening something up and

00:22:01.060 seeing i'm opening it up and i'm seeing things we've dm'd each other in the last couple days

00:22:05.140 including you just sent me something six movements your body's probably craving oh yeah

00:22:09.200 this is a man dancing around on a on a rug yeah uh-oh December 2nd 20th Mark Hyman okay okay I'll 0.71

00:22:20.700 stop oh whoa oh my new wife in town paid partnerships they're so fucking cool I'm not 0.84

00:22:29.180 even joking who okay i mean i said i said just like it's cool like i'm like heart and get your

00:22:36.420 money you mean you support pay like yeah like when someone does a pay partnership i want to just be

00:22:41.440 like in case you're embarrassed don't be and you know people have done worse oh yeah yeah so you

00:22:46.340 there are assassins who get paid such a good point you're mad i found the post i just want to say i

00:22:51.900 found the post it's not all right let me hear what i'm sorry but that jacket do you don't think i

00:22:56.380 The listener has to see.

00:22:58.160 What if the listener,

00:22:59.080 what if they listen?

00:22:59.840 I fear this is too gossipy.

00:23:01.720 Don't stand behind gossip.

00:23:02.940 By the way,

00:23:03.240 I knew you were going to say this,

00:23:04.180 but listen to this

00:23:04.740 because this rolled.

00:23:05.400 All right.

00:23:05.920 Okay.

00:23:06.420 This is Mark Hyman's post.

00:23:07.680 I just read,

00:23:08.120 I read the first line of this

00:23:09.100 in my mouth open.

00:23:10.580 This is about,

00:23:11.060 this is not gossipy.

00:23:11.800 This is about his post.

00:23:12.700 No, right.

00:23:13.100 This is sharing what he wrote.

00:23:14.860 Love is often elusive.

00:23:16.540 What?

00:23:17.000 Often because of our own childhood programming

00:23:19.060 or trauma.

00:23:20.200 Oh my God.

00:23:20.720 Okay.

00:23:20.860 We've got a grammar issue.

00:23:22.960 Often because our own,

00:23:24.380 okay, got it.

00:23:24.860 Often because our own childhood programming or trauma corrupts our ability to love securely and from a place of personal sovereignty and wholeness.

00:23:32.840 It's taken me a long time to heal.

00:23:35.480 But when I did, this extraordinary human showed up and met me.

00:23:39.120 And I met her.

00:23:41.000 We have explored all our joys and our struggles over the last nine months.

00:23:47.500 Oh!

00:23:49.740 She's fresh.

00:23:50.820 Rilke

00:23:52.520 the German poet

00:23:53.380 once wrote that

00:23:54.080 love consists of

00:23:54.920 two solitudes

00:23:55.620 that protect

00:23:57.280 and salute each other

00:23:58.200 absolutely 100%

00:23:59.540 yeah

00:24:00.260 wow

00:24:01.080 wow

00:24:02.340 they're supporting

00:24:03.740 each other's solitude

00:24:04.740 and they are having

00:24:06.660 I referenced that 0.94

00:24:07.340 24 hour tantric sex

00:24:09.260 I think my comedy album 0.84

00:24:10.480 alright go on

00:24:11.400 wait wait

00:24:13.340 sorry I missed the end

00:24:14.340 let's just say

00:24:15.860 they're howling

00:24:16.960 during sex

00:24:19.820 happy for them

00:24:26.160 by the way

00:24:27.120 that was

00:24:27.500 that was the most

00:24:28.860 quote

00:24:29.180 gossipy thing

00:24:30.140 we've ever done

00:24:30.800 in all of our

00:24:31.440 poog time

00:24:32.160 oh I want more

00:24:34.760 by the way

00:24:37.640 and that was not

00:24:38.640 I would

00:24:39.180 Mark and

00:24:40.200 his girlfriend

00:24:40.760 could listen to that

00:24:41.420 and I'd be thrilled

00:24:41.940 I mean yeah

00:24:43.060 well that's

00:24:43.700 that's what's most important

00:24:44.840 we support and we salute

00:24:46.080 yeah

00:24:47.760 the point is

00:24:49.080 I mean

00:24:49.820 The point is, yeah, so I've converted my father to believing in Mark Hyman.

00:24:54.800 So now I can just, like, shoot him a thing from Hyman.

00:24:59.080 Mark, yeah.

00:25:00.000 And be like, here's what you need to know about protein.

00:25:07.620 We were completely silent.

00:25:09.300 Just eye locked.

00:25:10.340 Your face.

00:25:11.260 Your face was.

00:25:14.700 Wait, what happened there?

00:25:16.080 And what's funny is, it's not eye locked.

00:25:18.580 This is the thing we always remember.

00:25:19.820 Because you're staring at an image of me.

00:25:21.500 I'm staring at an image of you.

00:25:22.480 We're not staring into the camera.

00:25:24.100 We're not.

00:25:24.560 We're not.

00:25:25.140 Which is the new eye lock.

00:25:27.600 Is it eye contact?

00:25:28.700 I know.

00:25:29.680 Where I went is I had a fantasy of waking up next to Mark Hyman.

00:25:32.860 I had a fantasy of-

00:25:33.800 As in you're the woman?

00:25:34.640 What would it mean to be in a relationship with Mark Hyman?

00:25:37.000 What would it mean to be in a relationship with someone who's constantly like,

00:25:40.020 well, here, eat this for your mitochondria.

00:25:41.580 Here, here you go.

00:25:42.620 Like, do you know what I mean?

00:25:44.000 Would that-

00:25:45.800 Of course it sounds like hell.

00:25:47.760 I know.

00:25:48.200 Well, that's the thing.

00:25:48.640 Imagine going on a jog with Mark Hyman.

00:25:51.160 Well, going on a couple's jog.

00:25:54.640 I think, you know, go to the path together.

00:25:58.700 You know, Chris and I used to go to the West Side Highway.

00:26:02.380 And say, see ya.

00:26:03.720 You know what I mean?

00:26:04.480 That's so funny.

00:26:05.620 Go to the path and say, see you back here in 45.

00:26:08.380 Literally, yeah.

00:26:09.200 That's cool.

00:26:10.360 There was one time that like, like my father, like, you know,

00:26:14.280 has been running forever.

00:26:15.260 and uh like i went to the path that he like my mother will walk my father will run i went once

00:26:22.560 and i was like i hadn't run in like two years and then i went there and i was like i'm gonna do it

00:26:27.780 and i like overdid it like i think i did ran like six miles okay because i i went into this like

00:26:32.120 perception i like had this thing like where i was analyzing what what it feels like to

00:26:40.500 like tolerate pain like another step another step another step yeah and like sort of the not

00:26:47.740 wanting to like the whole thing i was like because this was like depression years so it's like yeah

00:26:51.940 it's always like okay if i don't want to take a single step why don't i master uh running six

00:26:57.840 miles you know what i'm saying it's like let's like face it oh yeah oh but by the way like i

00:27:02.800 the storm i think if you're in a relationship with mark hyman it's like it's like i prefer

00:27:07.200 Mark Hyman, obviously, at a distance, right?

00:27:09.240 I want to dip into his world, grab 1.00

00:27:11.340 a smoothie recipe, and get the fuck 0.98

00:27:13.180 out, right? But 0.89

00:27:15.020 I imagine if you're actually face

00:27:17.380 to face, if you're actually in the eye of the storm

00:27:18.980 with a Mark Hyman, there's more to it.

00:27:21.640 You know, like, he's not

00:27:23.340 saying that all day. He might

00:27:25.320 enjoy, you know, trash. 0.99

00:27:27.260 He's going to have panna cotta. 0.99

00:27:29.700 Yeah. You're telling me

00:27:31.480 you worked that hard not to be able to,

00:27:33.420 you know, enjoy a panna cotta.

00:27:36.160 And the, I

00:27:37.100 I can actually, I can hear him go, and the Pantacota, please.

00:27:40.200 I can hear it so exactly in my ear.

00:27:42.220 It's strange.

00:27:42.740 Oh, my God.

00:27:43.260 It almost seems to feel like he's ordering it right now somewhere,

00:27:45.860 the way it came through.

00:27:47.060 It's like a direct channel.

00:27:48.080 Yeah.

00:27:50.240 Well, 110, it could be a lunch dessert.

00:27:52.000 Oh, absolutely.

00:27:52.900 Dessert at lunch.

00:27:54.540 Oh, wait, I have something to say about exercise.

00:27:55.880 Oh, but I was like running.

00:27:56.760 Yeah, there you go.

00:27:57.440 Oh, but just the realization.

00:27:59.060 So I was like, what's going on here with the past, present, and future in this moment?

00:28:02.160 Like, I was like, okay, I'm worrying sort of about the next step

00:28:04.840 and whether or not I can, like, oh, it's going hard.

00:28:09.000 But I'm like, as I'm worrying about the next step,

00:28:11.600 I am achieving a step right now.

00:28:13.840 Yeah.

00:28:14.300 So it's like, I'm capable of doing the very thing that I'm about to do.

00:28:18.100 And obviously, you know, endurance,

00:28:19.940 the belief that with every single step you're losing energy, right?

00:28:24.720 But I was like, somehow I got into this thing in my head

00:28:27.260 where I literally was like, how do I get to this idea of I will, right?

00:28:31.960 Like believing that I'll be able to take those steps.

00:28:33.360 I was like, I will.

00:28:34.400 And I was like, how do I get to that?

00:28:35.500 And it was almost like, I was like, I have.

00:28:37.920 Like, I've already done it.

00:28:39.360 I can.

00:28:40.380 I have, which means I can.

00:28:42.880 And I am.

00:28:44.800 And so I will.

00:28:46.240 And I said it over and over again.

00:28:47.840 Yeah, I am being the main thing.

00:28:49.500 So I heard this about doula, about doula stuff.

00:28:54.000 Instead of saying to someone who's giving birth, like, you can do it.

00:28:57.860 You can do it.

00:28:58.460 You can do it.

00:28:59.140 Yes, there it is.

00:29:00.000 You're doing it.

00:29:00.760 You're doing it.

00:29:01.340 You're doing it.

00:29:02.020 Yeah, there it is. 1.00

00:29:02.900 Holy shit. 1.00

00:29:04.040 Can you believe? 1.00

00:29:04.800 You are.

00:29:05.400 You are.

00:29:06.060 You are.

00:29:06.700 And so, wait, I have something to say about exercise.

00:29:08.720 So I haven't done my Pilates, whatever, my Melissa would.

00:29:11.680 Yeah.

00:29:12.160 Which I was really committed to.

00:29:13.880 Felt it.

00:29:14.480 Loved it.

00:29:15.000 Seeing results.

00:29:15.660 Feeling it.

00:29:17.040 15 minutes a day.

00:29:17.860 That's it.

00:29:19.160 15, to be clear.

00:29:20.600 Right?

00:29:21.360 1-5.

00:29:22.060 15 minutes.

00:29:23.060 I didn't want anyone to think you'd said 50.

00:29:24.900 Oh, my God.

00:29:25.260 No.

00:29:25.480 1-5.

00:29:26.000 And then feel like, you know.

00:29:27.740 All I can commit to.

00:29:28.600 Doing 15 minutes a day.

00:29:30.340 Loving it.

00:29:31.200 Start to get pain, I think, from all the planking and all the, whatever. 0.98

00:29:34.040 as fuck I started I had pain in my chest for like guys like two months which I looked up and 0.97

00:29:39.740 whatever I pulled I saw a thing that was like this injury can take weeks to months to heal 0.99

00:29:44.560 and I was like by the time I was like months yeah right I'll take two months okay yeah and then the

00:29:49.360 other day I was like I think I can finally get on my like plank again do a push-up I think I can

00:29:53.280 finally do this again I did 15 minutes fine I was like great didn't have pain in my chest next day

00:29:59.700 no pain in the chest day after that middle back bad pain like like was laying on the floor like

00:30:05.840 oh fuck what did i do the time where you can't move or like pain or like i can move no not spasm 0.73

00:30:10.780 but like pain certain like i had to protect you know i was performing and i couldn't do like full 0.98

00:30:15.920 range i just felt oh yeah yeah my back i like the like the bra line like that part on the back like

00:30:20.660 that was really hurting and i just want to say that and i was like and this is why exercise can't

00:30:25.380 do it. The day after that, pain was basically gone. So it was one day of pain. So what does

00:30:30.260 that mean? Well, and is there meaning to be had? Yes. Because I was like, do I do I work

00:30:37.840 out again or is it too much of a risk? I mean, impossible to say from outside. I can't believe

00:30:44.400 it hurt. Unfortunately, I'll do some light stretching today, I guess. But apparently

00:30:49.580 stretching is like bad for you. I would actually say no, I would say it's not stretching. I would

00:30:53.700 actually say it's strengthening. And there it is. Okay. Well, because if your back hurts,

00:30:58.700 the core is what has to be strengthened. And the core does actually, as far as I can tell,

00:31:03.820 include back muscles. Okay. Look at that. Look, I just changed my posture. I was slumped,

00:31:08.320 brought it up, engaging the core. Oh, and I'm wearing, I'm going to put my upright go on today,

00:31:13.040 which, you know, buzzes me when I slouch. So last week there was a spinal focus in my Tracy

00:31:19.300 Anderson, the week's workout. And it was interesting because it was like, this is your

00:31:25.880 spine. You got to feel into it like what's happening. You got to know where it feels

00:31:31.440 weak and wiggly, but you're doing it and you're engaging the core and you're making it strong

00:31:35.260 and where you're just hurling your leg around and being dangerous with it. You literally,

00:31:40.540 this is your practice. You know what I mean? And it was a really interesting spinal week

00:31:48.960 for me. Spine's huge. Oh, sorry. I'm pivoting, but it's on topic, which is always when I come

00:31:56.320 back to LA, you know, everything's going to change, et cetera. Whole new life, whatever.

00:32:01.120 Birth of a new me. I'm, uh, have you heard of this exercise class called the class?

00:32:07.160 Yeah, I've tried it. Okay. Shut the fuck up. Am I so late? Wait, wait, wait, wait. Like pre-COVID?

00:32:12.620 Like pre-COVID or like alone in your house? That doesn't count to me. Oh, for you it's about like

00:32:16.260 the group energy yeah no i it was online so so so here's the thing i had a friend that sent me a

00:32:21.920 video was like what is this called the class and it's a video of all these people working out

00:32:27.220 crying and i was like okay and they're like in such a cramped space that it's like oh god like

00:32:34.600 that is the thing like in covid world i'm like i just i feel like it's the last thing that i'm

00:32:38.740 going to be able to do again it's like a group workout class it's already a struggle yeah no

00:32:42.780 exactly. We're like, doing primal stream therapy. Yeah. It was like 40 people in a carpeted room.

00:32:50.200 What about hot yoga in a carpeted room? You ever do that? Yes, for two weeks. I had a revolution.

00:32:54.300 It's like, why the hell are we on carpet? Do you remember when I did hot yoga for two weeks? I was

00:32:58.340 like, this is my new life now. Maybe it was as much as a month. And I was so into it.

00:33:02.560 I did hot yoga at Core Power for like two years. Remember that in Hollywood? The Starbucks of yoga,

00:33:07.500 they call it. And I was like, sign me up for a double. I loved it. I told you about it because

00:33:11.960 the place i went was like completely not fancy it was like ashram like i was like this is cool

00:33:16.580 this feels like full-blown like the yoga to the people experiment like happening it was really

00:33:21.020 it was cheap it was it was kind of nasty in there oh it is very was this in new york the studio was

00:33:27.100 run down no this was in la this was like it was like kind of run down carpet carpet honey and i

00:33:31.600 think it was early poog because i put on my face my facialist or something was like right you should

00:33:37.460 put a serum on your face because you'll sweat and you'll, and I put Biologique Cherish Amniotique

00:33:43.120 serum on my face. As soon as it was activated by the sweat, it smelled like literal piss. 0.70

00:33:49.200 Oh yeah. And I was laying down and I was like, why does it smell like high octane piss? And I was

00:33:56.600 like looking around like, who's pissing? And then I was like, it's my face. I'm smelling my cheeks.

00:34:01.480 It's just disgusting. The point is I loved it and I started breaking out. I guess it brought

00:34:07.300 stuff to the surface purged even though apparently purging is not real but i think i was doing that

00:34:11.960 i mean everyone doesn't mean that all products do it really i don't know i i feel like the serum

00:34:18.180 before to me it's gonna just slide right off right yeah yeah or like then you're kind of like

00:34:23.380 bringing the sweat and the serum together i don't know like it it's appealing as a concept but i'm

00:34:27.240 not sure i buy it i'm like sweat sweat freely after class rinse spritz whatever then apply

00:34:33.180 your serum on the way out.

00:34:34.240 Yeah.

00:34:34.940 One time I did like two

00:34:36.040 kundalini yoga classes in a row

00:34:37.760 in New York at Golden Bridge.

00:34:39.420 I want to do that with you.

00:34:40.240 It was like a class

00:34:40.880 and then there was like

00:34:41.580 a special thing like after

00:34:42.880 like a workshop

00:34:43.560 and I was like,

00:34:44.100 I'll do it.

00:34:44.980 And then I remember

00:34:45.820 going down to the subway

00:34:46.660 and the man,

00:34:48.740 you know,

00:34:49.040 at the water and snacks thing

00:34:51.140 I was buying water

00:34:52.340 was like,

00:34:52.820 you are glowing.

00:34:56.760 But he said it like

00:34:57.940 not just like you're glowing,

00:34:59.140 like you said it almost like

00:35:00.620 he gestured around

00:35:02.640 the head, not the face.

00:35:05.900 Hell yeah.

00:35:06.360 And I was like, yeah.

00:35:09.380 I gotta go.

00:35:10.380 I gotta go.

00:35:11.600 We gotta get.

00:35:12.140 I just gotta get out of here.

00:35:13.300 I gotta go do that.

00:35:15.300 I gotta get.

00:35:16.180 Yeah, we gotta work the, don't forget you have an aura.

00:35:19.480 Don't forget you have an energy field.

00:35:21.040 this is writer strong and i have a new podcast called the red weather it was many and many a

00:35:35.840 year ago in a kingdom by the sea in 1995 my neighbor and a trainer disappeared from a commune

00:35:42.560 it was hard to wrap your head around it was nature and trees and praying and drugs no i am not your

00:35:49.560 and back then i lied to my parents i lied to police i lied to everybody there were years

00:35:57.200 right where i could not say your name i've decided to go back to my hometown in northern

00:36:01.140 california interview my friends family talk to police journalists whomever i can to try to find

00:36:06.380 out what actually happened isn't it a little bit weird that they obsess over hippies in the woods

00:36:11.000 and not the obvious boyfriend they have had this case for 30 years i'll teach you sons of

00:36:16.660 You come around, you're in my way.

00:36:18.600 Boom, boom.

00:36:19.940 This is The Red Weather.

00:36:22.900 Listen to The Red Weather on the iHeartRadio app,

00:36:25.520 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

00:36:30.680 Hello, it's me, Anna Sinfield, from The Girlfriends,

00:36:33.720 the number one hit true crime show

00:36:36.380 that puts women right in the center of their own stories.

00:36:40.220 I'm back with more one-off interviews 1.00

00:36:42.620 with some truly kick-ass women on The Girlfriend's Spotlight. 1.00

00:36:47.560 I want to introduce you to Sylvia. 0.97

00:36:50.060 I'm going to climb this.

00:36:52.440 And then there's Vaisaka.

00:36:54.540 Let's see how we can stop killing and save lives.

00:36:58.660 Leila dared to ask the question.

00:37:01.120 Is badness hereditary?

00:37:03.160 And finally, we'll meet Rosamund.

00:37:05.280 If it wasn't for the year where Ella lived,

00:37:08.100 she wouldn't have died on that fatal night.

00:37:11.060 You'll even get to meet my mum in that one,

00:37:12.760 who I can always count on to keep my feet on the ground.

00:37:15.820 I'm not too intimidated by her.

00:37:17.220 What are you talking about? 1.00

00:37:20.160 Listen to the Girlfriend Spotlight on the iHeartRadio app, 1.00

00:37:23.580 Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

00:37:30.460 Ever feel like you're being chased by the marriage police?

00:37:34.480 Welcome to Boys and Girls, the podcast where dating isn't dating.

00:37:38.060 It's a full-on love triathlon.

00:37:40.640 A morning what-if, an evening maybe, and a 3pm chai with a could-this-please-be-the-one.

00:37:47.820 Because in the arranged marriage universe, you're basically on a sushi conveyor belt.

00:37:51.960 And like raw fish, you've got a shelf life.

00:37:55.600 And the wild part? You're not just looking for someone you like.

00:37:58.920 You're casting for a mythical hero your entire family approves of.

00:38:02.620 A saint, a demigod, a unicorn.

00:38:04.940 I know because years ago, I sacrificed myself to this chaotic, soul-crushing tradition, hoping to find love the correct way. 1.00

00:38:13.420 Boys and Girls is our absurd, cringy, heartfelt ride through the highs and lows of the Indian arranged marriage, 1.00

00:38:19.580 finally giving you the validation and healing you deserve. 0.94

00:38:23.920 Listen to Boys and Girls starting February 19th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

00:38:30.960 When you feel uncomfortable, what do you put on?

00:38:33.920 Biggie.

00:38:34.720 You put on Biggie when you feel uncomfortable?

00:38:36.180 Because I want to get confident.

00:38:37.340 This is DJ Hester Prince's Music is Therapy,

00:38:40.000 a new podcast from me, a DJ and licensed therapist

00:38:43.380 that asks one simple question.

00:38:46.040 Who do you want to be?

00:38:47.220 And what's the song that can take you there?

00:38:49.520 Music changes what you feel.

00:38:51.060 And what you feel changes what you do, right?

00:38:53.800 That moment where a song shifts something inside you,

00:38:56.740 that's where transformation starts.

00:38:58.740 This year, I'm talking to experts across every area of life,

00:39:02.140 Like personal finance icon Gene Chatzky, New York Times journalist David Gellis,

00:39:07.080 relationship legend Dan Savage, human connection teacher Mark Groves,

00:39:11.520 and the man who shaped my ear more than anyone, Questlove.

00:39:14.820 They'll bring the strategies.

00:39:16.060 I'll pair them with the right records and we'll teach you how to use the music to make change stick.

00:39:20.780 This isn't just a podcast.

00:39:22.280 It's unconventional therapy for your entire year.

00:39:25.240 Listen to DJ Hester-Krin's Music is Therapy on the iHeartRadio app,

00:39:28.880 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

00:39:32.140 so Jacqueline and I are both going to be in New York at the same time I want some kind of

00:39:43.320 double spa experience I also would like to be flown to Bali for example I would like to

00:39:50.320 leave well I want to get on horseback well thank you for reminding I'm okay a couple things Kate

00:39:57.780 one I just want to say it because I've been meaning to tell you okay when I'm gonna get

00:40:00.900 a horseback because I'm watching Yellowstone and I just know that I need it. Okay. You tell me.

00:40:05.940 What? March. I've been praying for March. Okay. No, but that's not the thing I was going to drop

00:40:10.700 on you. And you know what? It's going to be the ultimate laugh. I was wondering if we considered,

00:40:15.520 okay, so my show's in New York City, February 5th, 6th, and 7th, right? That's Sunday,

00:40:20.880 Monday, Tuesday. Okay. And my show wraps Feb 10th. But I'm out of town the next day,

00:40:24.560 off to San Francisco. There's still tickets. Okay. Okay. So shows 5, 6, 7th. Arrive,

00:40:30.440 I believe, on the 4th, I think, aka the day before the show. I like to get in, rest up.

00:40:36.140 That means I'm in New York City looking for dinner on the 4th, the 5th, the 6th, and the 7th.

00:40:42.900 I was honestly going to pitch four dinners. It's not a joke. Now, I know how you are.

00:40:47.160 So my dream's coming true. Finally, my dream's coming true.

00:40:49.260 Okay, I know how you are. You're booked through the roof.

00:40:51.360 No, I'm not. I'm looking at this right now. The 4th, I can't because I... Oh, no, no, no. No,

00:40:55.220 no, no. Shut up. Oh, no. The 4th, I can't because I have a friend literally flying in 1.00

00:40:58.680 to support me and see the show.

00:41:00.760 And so I can't do that.

00:41:03.640 The fifth is my day off

00:41:04.900 and the fifth is your first show.

00:41:07.280 That means I can come to your show.

00:41:09.040 I know.

00:41:09.360 I realized.

00:41:09.980 I realized.

00:41:10.960 Putting it in.

00:41:12.020 So I reached out to Via Crota.

00:41:14.840 So excited.

00:41:15.700 Okay.

00:41:15.900 Because of that room by the coat closet.

00:41:18.260 And basically I DM'd

00:41:19.320 and it was sloppy and desperate.

00:41:20.700 But I just not trying to get anything free.

00:41:23.780 Just being like,

00:41:24.860 what would it cost

00:41:25.860 to reserve the little room?

00:41:27.620 It's like a four-person table, maybe even a six.

00:41:30.400 And I started to do the whole, I'll order six people's amount of food.

00:41:34.820 And then I was like, all right, let's settle down for a minute.

00:41:37.260 You can rent a room.

00:41:40.020 Tell me what it'll cost.

00:41:41.560 I don't know.

00:41:42.960 All right.

00:41:43.320 My point is, I've asked.

00:41:44.940 Because you know I'm trying to, a month of tour, really, really, really trying to not just eat in crowded restaurants.

00:41:52.100 You know this.

00:41:52.600 So I'm on a hunt for private dining for Cape Verlaine and Jacqueline Novak.

00:41:57.620 in New York City.

00:41:59.040 Hey, go for it.

00:41:59.640 I got news.

00:42:00.900 Some might say, hey, we're not doing that for you. 0.98

00:42:06.560 Others might say, holy shit, there are four slots on the Poog calendar 0.97

00:42:12.540 for a bespoke and controllable dining experience, 0.99

00:42:18.920 which they will post the shit out of. 0.78

00:42:21.340 Yeah. 0.97

00:42:22.140 Yeah.

00:42:22.580 You've got a back room.

00:42:23.640 I know you do.

00:42:24.440 Yeah, yeah.

00:42:24.720 The back room, the back room.

00:42:26.340 So I'm starting to just think about that a little bit.

00:42:29.440 And then I'm wondering what else we can do together on New York.

00:42:34.160 Yeah, I would love some kind of a something.

00:42:38.140 Well, I would love side-by-side facials.

00:42:41.440 Well, here's what I really want, is I want the Bali.

00:42:44.780 I want to go to Bali.

00:42:45.880 Okay, so I have to go big here.

00:42:48.440 I want to go.

00:42:49.100 Well, sometime in March, I will have a moment where I go,

00:42:53.380 now I need to relax.

00:42:54.380 And so, you know, that's on the horizon is the point, but it's not as soon as you look at my face.

00:43:01.840 Well, guess what? I'll wait for you, sweetheart. Oh, my God.

00:43:07.640 Oh, wait, wait, Jacqueline, Jacqueline, Jacqueline, can you commit to me on air?

00:43:11.440 This is a huge friend. OK, huge moment. Is it balling?

00:43:15.500 We'll do something. We'll do something really special, please.

00:43:21.840 Relaxation, please. Yes.

00:43:23.260 us. Are you listening to me? Here we go. Here we go. Ready for this? Listen to this. Three

00:43:28.640 night minimum. I know because anything more. Can you commit to a three night minimum? Yes.

00:43:35.940 Oh my God. I'm going to start crying. Okay. Because by the way, I'll be done with this

00:43:39.460 run of the show. You're going to have just completed something major. We have to mark

00:43:43.580 time. We have to mark time. It's all we have. And celebrate things. And celebration. Okay.

00:43:48.660 Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Hold on. Hold on. Here's a question. Are we on horses? Are we

00:43:53.160 Switches broke out.

00:43:54.140 Are we in Utah on the river?

00:43:56.380 Are we in Utah on the river?

00:43:57.780 I know it's not what you think,

00:43:59.580 but I once was on a-

00:44:00.740 I know it needs to be side-by-side nature.

00:44:02.320 I could do mountains.

00:44:02.840 I could do river.

00:44:03.500 Lying on my back, looking at-

00:44:05.320 I think maybe it's not beach.

00:44:06.020 It's not beach.

00:44:06.740 I think it's mountain.

00:44:07.300 It's river.

00:44:07.640 Really?

00:44:08.340 It scares me.

00:44:09.440 It could be beach.

00:44:09.940 It could be beach.

00:44:12.560 I think, I mean, maybe we look around the globe. 0.99

00:44:16.220 We fucking set aside. 0.99

00:44:17.920 Start setting aside. 0.99

00:44:19.100 Send your funds now.

00:44:20.880 Funds now.

00:44:21.360 I'm serious.

00:44:21.900 She's like, you build it week by week. 0.99

00:44:23.900 The latte fund.

00:44:24.960 You take a latte and you invest it first in a shoebox.

00:44:27.200 I'm ready to invest in the March.

00:44:30.320 What's it called?

00:44:31.280 Let me just think about this for a second.

00:44:32.560 What do we need? 0.97

00:44:33.300 Okay, what if we got our asses somewhere? 0.97

00:44:35.820 I know you always make fun of me for being cheap. 0.99

00:44:37.380 I'm ready to throw down, okay?

00:44:39.760 A free all-expense page.

00:44:43.000 Well, sure, sure, sure.

00:44:44.880 I mean, we will offer up, you know, we will partner, of course, okay?

00:44:51.160 We are open.

00:44:51.580 We are willing to partner with any spa.

00:44:54.300 You can own our face.

00:44:56.120 You can own it.

00:44:57.660 Yeah, yeah.

00:44:58.280 We could do POOG recorded live at fill in the blank,

00:45:01.640 your hotel, nature.

00:45:04.320 We need luxury.

00:45:06.120 We need, and we will launch your business

00:45:10.200 into the stratosphere.

00:45:10.860 Now, when I say we, now this is the truth.

00:45:13.460 It's not always about like, you know,

00:45:17.120 it's the target of our audience.

00:45:21.580 Okay, they are hungry for selling.

00:45:26.620 This is supposed to be like, you know, it's funny.

00:45:28.420 It's like, this is the product.

00:45:29.900 This.

00:45:30.680 And it's like, where it collapses on itself.

00:45:34.000 Where it's like, no longer selling.

00:45:37.580 Yeah.

00:45:37.700 When you understand, Jacqueline, I broke out into a sweat from the anticipatory joy of the trip, knowing that it's coming.

00:45:47.380 This is what I have been, A, longing for, B, requiring.

00:45:49.880 You need to relax and believe it's happening.

00:45:52.080 You don't have to check every day from now on.

00:45:54.600 I'll relax.

00:45:55.180 If it's still locked.

00:45:55.920 Just trust.

00:45:56.900 I'm not going to check every day, but guess what?

00:45:58.440 Guess what?

00:45:59.800 I just want to say to everyone out there.

00:46:01.940 Accepting recommendations.

00:46:03.260 For where we, you know what I'd love to do?

00:46:05.760 Okay.

00:46:06.040 Drive cattle. 0.97

00:46:07.060 Okay, no.

00:46:07.960 I don't know if you've ever seen the movie City Slickers.

00:46:09.780 And I want to be really clear.

00:46:11.080 I see water going over rocks.

00:46:12.840 So do I.

00:46:13.460 Okay.

00:46:13.900 I see like boulders and rocks.

00:46:15.720 Okay.

00:46:16.120 Yeah.

00:46:16.500 Okay.

00:46:16.700 Rainforest and horse.

00:46:18.560 I'm imagining riding on a horse, okay,

00:46:21.800 down sort of a rocky path, okay,

00:46:24.440 through lush forest jungle that lands us on the beach.

00:46:29.280 Mm, mm, mm, mm, mm.

00:46:34.520 Sack lunch?

00:46:35.840 Yep.

00:46:36.680 Okay, listen.

00:46:38.380 Question for you, darling.

00:46:40.640 When we were in Turks and Caicos,

00:46:41.840 was that four nights or three?

00:46:43.040 Oh, it was at least four because I, 0.99

00:46:46.760 if I'm going to fucking haul, 0.93

00:46:48.100 last like that because I think we I think we're looking for I think we're looking for five nights 0.97

00:46:53.540 doll and we're gonna be we are going to be I know I mean this is I mean I'm beside myself and I and

00:47:00.420 here come the recommendations and here we fucking go proud of you remember when I mean proud of us

00:47:07.320 yep me doesn't it help doesn't it help to know it's coming really helps me yeah well it's a 0.63

00:47:15.200 container because guess what the last vacation that was a year ago yeah almost exactly that we

00:47:19.600 took that trip that was amazing i remember when we were in bed together remember drinking pina

00:47:23.420 coladas and i said you're not having a single step that was amazing remember we were crying

00:47:27.360 you cried because you were safe with me and i said it's okay i'm not mad when we we were on

00:47:33.020 that trip we said we would do a trip once a year and we're keeping our promise i know

00:47:45.200 This is Ryder Strong, and I have a new podcast called The Red Weather.

00:47:49.860 It was many and many a year ago in a kingdom by the sea.

00:47:55.060 In 1995, my neighbor, Anna Trainor, disappeared from a commune.

00:47:59.080 It was hard to wrap your head around.

00:48:00.400 It was nature and trees and praying and drugs.

00:48:04.020 No, I am not your guru.

00:48:07.820 And back then, I lied to my parents.

00:48:10.440 I lied to police.

00:48:11.700 I lied to everybody.

00:48:12.480 There were years, writer, where I could not say your name.

00:48:15.720 I've decided to go back to my hometown in Northern California,

00:48:18.360 interview my friends, family, talk to police, journalists,

00:48:21.160 whomever I can to try to find out what actually happened.

00:48:24.520 Isn't it a little bit weird that they obsess over hippies in the woods

00:48:27.440 and not the obvious boyfriend?

00:48:29.120 They have had this case for 30 years. 0.92

00:48:32.040 I'll teach you sons of a** to come around here and my wife. 0.90

00:48:35.100 Boom, boom. 0.97

00:48:36.380 This is The Red Weather.

00:48:39.400 Listen to The Red Weather on the iHeartRadio app,

00:48:41.860 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

00:48:46.960 Hello, it's me, Anna Sinfield, from The Girlfriends,

00:48:50.480 the number one hit true crime show

00:48:52.800 that puts women right in the center of their own stories.

00:48:56.660 I'm back with more one-off interviews 1.00

00:48:59.080 with some truly kick-ass women on The Girlfriends Spotlight. 1.00

00:49:04.000 I want to introduce you to Sylvia.

00:49:06.480 I'm going to climb this.

00:49:08.860 And then there's Vaisaka.

00:49:11.000 Let's see how we can stop killing and save lives.

00:49:15.100 Leila dared to ask the question.

00:49:17.580 Is badness hereditary?

00:49:19.600 And finally, we'll meet Rosamund.

00:49:21.720 If it wasn't for the year where Ella lived,

00:49:24.540 she wouldn't have died on that fatal night.

00:49:27.480 You'll even get to meet my mum in that one,

00:49:29.200 who I can always count on to keep my feet on the ground.

00:49:32.220 I'm not too intimidated by her.

00:49:33.660 What are you talking about? 1.00

00:49:36.560 Listen to the Girlfriend Spotlight 1.00

00:49:38.420 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

00:50:08.420 And like raw fish, you've got a shelf life.

00:50:12.040 And the wild part?

00:50:13.520 You're not just looking for someone you like.

00:50:15.380 You're casting for a mythical hero your entire family approves of.

00:50:19.060 A saint, a demigod, a unicorn.

00:50:22.060 I know because years ago, I sacrificed myself to this chaotic, soul-crushing tradition,

00:50:27.100 hoping to find love the correct way.

00:50:29.540 Boys and Girls is our absurd, cringy, heartfelt ride 1.00

00:50:33.080 through the highs and lows of the Indian arranged marriage, 0.96

00:50:35.840 finally giving you the validation and healing you deserve.

00:50:40.360 Listen to Boys and Girls starting February 19th

00:50:43.020 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

00:50:45.440 or wherever you get your podcasts.

00:50:47.400 When you feel uncomfortable, what do you put on?

00:50:50.360 Biggie.

00:50:51.140 You put on Biggie when you feel uncomfortable?

00:50:52.600 Because I want to get confident.

00:50:53.800 This is DJ Hester Prince's Music is Therapy,

00:50:56.420 a new podcast from me, a DJ and licensed therapist

00:50:59.840 that asks one simple question.

00:51:02.460 Who do you want to be?

00:51:03.460 And what's the song that can take you there?

00:51:05.840 Music changes what you feel, and what you feel changes what you do, right?

00:51:10.240 That moment where a song shifts something inside you, that's where transformation starts.

00:51:15.200 This year, I'm talking to experts across every area of life,

00:51:18.920 like personal finance icon Gene Chatzky, New York Times journalist David Gellis,

00:51:23.520 relationship legend Dan Savage, human connection teacher Mark Broves,

00:51:27.960 and the man who shaped my ear more than anyone, Questlove.

00:51:31.220 They'll bring the strategies, I'll pair them with the right records,

00:51:33.960 and we'll teach you how to use the music to make change stick.

00:51:37.260 This isn't just a podcast.

00:51:38.700 It's unconventional therapy for your entire year.

00:51:41.700 Listen to DJ Hester-Krin's Music is Therapy

00:51:43.960 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

00:51:46.360 or wherever you get your podcasts.

00:51:54.220 I saw a photograph come in yesterday,

00:51:58.080 come in through my phone,

00:51:59.680 served me by machinery, okay,

00:52:02.440 that was pictures of us on the beach,

00:52:06.380 none of which I've posted,

00:52:07.300 none of which I've posted.

00:52:08.180 I've taken thousands.

00:52:09.000 We have thousands at the beach.

00:52:11.400 It's amazing because when you go for it

00:52:13.320 in photography,

00:52:14.080 go for it in a pose 1.00

00:52:14.980 and a fucking suit, right? 1.00

00:52:17.260 You know, bathing suit, etc. 1.00

00:52:19.660 It's like this wonderful sort of

00:52:21.760 high stakes risk

00:52:24.060 because the photo either looks horrifying

00:52:26.520 because you've gone for it

00:52:27.600 or you get the greatest photo you ever took, right?

00:52:30.220 Remember, you took that footage of me

00:52:31.640 my bikini which is never before released footage that is so by the way i might just go ahead and

00:52:36.820 go we're posting it on poog because i can't post on the personal it's too shocking to post like

00:52:40.840 oh bikini imagery but like i will post the freaking video on poog instagram no i struggle

00:52:48.860 with it i struggle with it yeah because i posted you may recall i posted like a very modest

00:52:54.520 shot on Poog from the Italian beach. Okay. Where you could see the top of my like seventies,

00:53:02.060 you know, bathing suit shape. Because remember the two rabbit ears? Yeah. And like, I was like,

00:53:08.280 I can't post like anything more than this because like, it feels too like influencer here. And

00:53:12.400 people are like, we want it, you know? I mean, a couple of people. And, you know, the perversion of

00:53:18.560 of this false I mean because it's not modesty right really me refusing to post it is um

00:53:25.180 another form of vanity which is yes well the vanity of the soul you know like the vanity of

00:53:31.780 like I will not let you think I mean reckoning with the image of the self in social media well

00:53:38.200 you're already at the fucking we have it's too late I mean the dignity is gone I mean there are

00:53:44.140 ways to you can try to conceal but at this point I mean conceal is a joke and then and then the 0.98

00:53:50.300 other side they're like I'm doing it is a joke I mean like it's a like yeah I agree there's almost

00:53:55.660 nothing to do but just post the photos like I mean like and say nothing and be like okay so

00:54:00.420 listen I know you don't I'm not I promise but you know why also why what why post well yeah I just

00:54:07.780 theoretically I whatever but then I go what you know then there's something I just go why

00:54:11.740 No, absolutely. Of course. I just want to thank you for giving me, and I'm not going to bludgeon

00:54:19.420 you daily, but we have on air that you have committed to a three-night minimum trip with

00:54:24.780 me. Really, it is three nights for me. Minimum. Minimum, I'm saying. Sorry. Because I don't like

00:54:31.660 to travel for two. It's five nights, really. Yes. Okay. Because there are times we're traveling for

00:54:36.520 two. Okay. I mean, for like two nights or getting away for a weekend can be huge. Sure. But planning

00:54:41.620 a trip and taking a long flight, I mean, paying for a serious flight somewhere, you got to linger.

00:54:47.700 My dream for us is that I think we are getting on a plane to go, honey, wherever we're going. I

00:54:52.960 think it is by plane. I don't think we're doing just an hour and a half out of town.

00:54:56.580 And I think we're wearing our matching POOG Air sweatshirts.

00:55:00.460 I know.

00:55:01.060 That JetBlue sent us.

00:55:02.700 Yeah. You know, if.

00:55:05.300 Two mint tickets.

00:55:07.140 We'll wear them if.

00:55:08.860 If.

00:55:09.060 if they remember the semi-fredo remember the semi-fredo so for those who don't remember 0.84

00:55:15.040 or so fucking good then jack and i went on our trip last year screaming cackling because the 0.62

00:55:21.340 semi-fredo dessert at jet blue was so good that i'll never forget i'll say it again mulberries 0.96

00:55:27.280 there were mulberries there weren't boys there were mulberries it was a mulberry compote on top

00:55:32.520 of the semi-fredo it was better than it was like it was 10 p.m and i was in the finest restaurant

00:55:38.760 New York City

00:55:39.280 I know

00:55:39.660 and that's an ad

00:55:40.440 you can't pay for

00:55:41.360 and for that

00:55:42.020 I would like

00:55:42.720 to be paid

00:55:43.860 mint tickets

00:55:45.580 yeah

00:55:46.860 don't you remember

00:55:47.440 a few years ago

00:55:47.980 they were doing

00:55:48.400 something like

00:55:48.800 comedians performing

00:55:49.540 on airplanes

00:55:50.980 it was like

00:55:51.740 Virgin Atlantic

00:55:52.600 or like comedians

00:55:53.580 and planes getting

00:55:54.400 and they were paying

00:55:54.860 comedians like

00:55:55.440 14 million dollars

00:55:56.620 getting napkins

00:55:57.380 or whatever

00:55:57.720 like was it a play

00:55:58.800 or just

00:55:59.800 it was a regular flight

00:56:00.820 and there would be

00:56:01.380 like a comedian

00:56:01.980 in the cabin

00:56:02.920 doing material

00:56:03.620 yeah

00:56:04.460 and the idea was to

00:56:05.740 like spice up

00:56:07.080 airlines

00:56:08.080 Very interesting.

00:56:09.100 So I think they can,

00:56:10.080 I think they've got it in the budget.

00:56:11.320 I would work those aisles.

00:56:13.200 I'd be down the aisle.

00:56:14.800 I'd be back around the back

00:56:16.000 and coming up the other side of the angle aisle,

00:56:18.900 you know,

00:56:19.560 and I'd still be yelling from the back

00:56:21.180 when I crossed,

00:56:21.940 you know,

00:56:22.140 when I crossed over in the vestibule.

00:56:23.820 I would put roller skates on.

00:56:25.480 Well,

00:56:26.060 why don't you see more people on rollerblades?

00:56:28.240 Wouldn't that,

00:56:28.580 wouldn't that really be helpful

00:56:30.000 for flight attendants as well?

00:56:31.400 Oh, for flight attendants?

00:56:32.160 To be on wheels?

00:56:32.440 Because you know my,

00:56:33.340 my large scale,

00:56:34.300 like theory about rollerblades.

00:56:37.020 and basically anything on wheels, including roller skates.

00:56:41.340 I think it's possible that at any point in the next several years,

00:56:45.720 people are going to finally get hip to it,

00:56:48.220 realize that it's a better way to move,

00:56:49.920 and they're going to exclusively, almost exclusively move that way.

00:56:54.680 Okay.

00:56:54.880 On wheels? 0.87

00:56:55.640 Well, they tried to do that with the shoes. 0.99

00:56:57.100 No, I know, but, and it took for the kids.

00:56:59.520 Okay.

00:57:00.340 Yeah.

00:57:01.680 Everyone on wheels in the streets?

00:57:03.240 Everyone on the wheels in the streets.

00:57:04.260 Now, what I think will happen, okay,

00:57:06.920 historically they'll go it'll be in the history books whatever they'll be like you know in 2030

00:57:13.420 people started you know moving about the streets pedestrian became wheeledustrian and you know and

00:57:20.540 and the rest is history right right right and someone's gonna go a kid is gonna raise their

00:57:27.080 hand and go but it says here rollerblades were you know invented in in i'm saying rollerblades

00:57:34.720 because they're, I think, more stable than roller skates.

00:57:36.840 But like the roller blade was invented in the 80s

00:57:39.100 and roller skates, you know,

00:57:40.840 they first came out in 1932, okay?

00:57:44.280 And I'd be like, why is it that the great whatever

00:57:46.920 didn't happen until 2030?

00:57:49.160 And they're just gonna be like,

00:57:50.060 it's just one of those curiosities of history.

00:57:53.560 Like it just didn't take until it took.

00:57:57.400 Yeah.

00:57:58.880 I think about this a lot.

00:58:00.000 Like when is it gonna happen?

00:58:01.180 And I say this as a non-roller blader.

00:58:03.260 I'm still convinced.

00:58:04.240 Just, you know, it's coming.

00:58:06.800 Yeah, and I do want in.

00:58:08.920 Did you see the 96-year-old gymnast?

00:58:11.440 It's like a meme, and I sent it to you.

00:58:14.440 Were you not stunned?

00:58:15.420 Yeah, I think I did.

00:58:16.260 I loved it.

00:58:17.300 It really brought joy.

00:58:18.720 Oh, wait, I haven't.

00:58:19.720 Sorry, I'm conflating it with the getting on thing.

00:58:22.480 I'm getting on.

00:58:23.400 Oh.

00:58:24.020 The HBO, the unbelievable. 1.00

00:58:25.920 And I will say this now to all the hags out there. 1.00

00:58:28.000 If there are people listening here who have not watched Getting On on HBO, 1.00

00:58:31.780 which is an adaptation from a British series,

00:58:33.400 Drop whatever you're doing

00:58:37.020 All I'll say is the performances

00:58:38.600 Getting on

00:58:39.560 Go

00:58:40.260 You'll laugh

00:58:41.460 You'll cry

00:58:41.800 You'll be astonished 0.68

00:58:42.500 You'll grip your skull

00:58:44.500 If you're interested in acting

00:58:47.180 Well yeah sweetie

00:58:48.580 I would say if you're interested in acting

00:58:50.560 Run

00:58:50.900 I would say maybe turn it on

00:58:52.200 If you're interested in laughter

00:58:53.460 Crying

00:58:54.160 Acting

00:58:54.840 Performances

00:58:55.560 Tone

00:58:56.540 If you're interested in an environment

00:58:57.880 Playing it straight

00:58:58.640 Playing it authentically

00:59:00.520 Yeah if you would ever like to laugh again 0.97

00:59:02.120 Okay not fucking elbowing 0.98

00:59:03.380 the audience in the bibs. 0.98

00:59:05.040 Yeah.

00:59:05.740 How about a little thing

00:59:06.580 called Character is Story?

00:59:07.860 Yeah.

00:59:08.100 How about a little thing

00:59:09.240 called Story isn't a,

00:59:11.040 you know,

00:59:11.400 a house a character

00:59:12.420 runs around inside.

00:59:14.660 Character is the house.

00:59:16.400 Stolen from Robert McKee,

00:59:17.720 I think.

00:59:18.100 So apologies there.

00:59:19.040 No, I think it was

00:59:19.760 Vicky King,

00:59:20.680 How to Write a Screenplay

00:59:21.520 in 21 Days.

00:59:22.300 No apology needed.

00:59:23.960 Nothing like a day-based

00:59:25.460 promise for me.

00:59:26.580 To carve the world

00:59:27.300 in a more meaningful form.

00:59:28.500 As promised,

00:59:29.840 Poog has completely 1.00

00:59:30.840 turned me around. 1.00

00:59:31.580 I knew it.

00:59:32.360 Who promised you?

00:59:33.080 near nude in bed thinking there's no way. I said, you have to drive. Here I am. That's

00:59:40.520 so interesting. I've secured a life-changing celebration relaxation trip with you. And now

00:59:47.140 I have something to productively obsess about. Yeah. Well, it's a container, okay, right now

00:59:53.380 that we have. We have this box in the future and we can start throwing things in it, okay?

00:59:57.440 As we approach it, throwing things and going, ooh, you know what? The reward for the work now.

01:00:00.480 I need to be on a horse

01:00:02.200 I just know that

01:00:03.680 well we're gonna be

01:00:04.640 also you know what

01:00:06.040 I'm very interested in 1.00

01:00:07.280 like getting my ass 0.99

01:00:08.880 to like Sedona 0.99

01:00:09.760 and like

01:00:10.600 some of those places

01:00:11.420 some of that

01:00:12.040 desert Arizona

01:00:13.080 that might be it

01:00:14.180 that might be it

01:00:15.420 vortex

01:00:15.780 that might be it

01:00:16.620 if we're not at a place

01:00:17.560 that is known for having

01:00:18.780 you know

01:00:19.260 being a spiritual vortex

01:00:20.220 I have concerns

01:00:22.240 I also

01:00:23.080 I need to be in a sauna

01:00:24.360 yeah

01:00:25.040 like rocks

01:00:25.980 hot rocks

01:00:26.520 private

01:00:27.160 is this because

01:00:27.900 Mark Hyman was talking

01:00:28.780 about dry sauna

01:00:29.640 no

01:00:30.660 Oh, possibly.

01:00:31.580 I just want to say one thing about a pen that you might be interested in.

01:00:35.440 Okay.

01:00:35.920 So I am going to reach out.

01:00:37.520 Okay.

01:00:38.060 Okay.

01:00:38.820 Just want to, just tell me if this cost you at all.

01:00:42.060 All right.

01:00:42.220 It's this brand called Bennu.

01:00:43.600 I don't know how it's pronounced.

01:00:44.920 Okay.

01:00:45.460 They're kind of outrageous.

01:00:46.680 They look like glittery and wild or whatever.

01:00:49.200 Okay.

01:00:49.800 What is it?

01:00:50.260 Steel nib.

01:00:51.060 Oh, it's the pen.

01:00:51.820 It's called Bennu.

01:00:52.180 It's a pen.

01:00:53.080 Okay.

01:00:53.200 This is the Talisman collection.

01:00:54.180 I literally thought it was a sauna for a second.

01:00:55.620 Okay.

01:00:56.060 This is called, I just want to speak of this and then I'm going to go

01:01:00.040 I'll beg for it, but because this is where pens are poog.

01:01:02.820 You ready?

01:01:03.580 I'm listening.

01:01:04.440 Bennu introduces their marvelous collection of pens, Talisman,

01:01:07.780 inspired by great legends and mystical beliefs that surround Talisman's amulets

01:01:12.580 and other magical items.

01:01:13.720 Okay.

01:01:13.940 Of course.

01:01:14.380 I'm skipping ahead.

01:01:16.100 Whether you're an avid believer in the magical power of plants, stones, herbs,

01:01:19.200 and crystals, et cetera, or you're in skeptical, blah, blah, blah.

01:01:21.660 Okay.

01:01:22.180 The Talisman collection is made complete with five pens,

01:01:25.260 each named after a special substance.

01:01:27.080 I know you're going, okay.

01:01:28.880 Mandrake, dragon's blood.

01:01:30.040 peacock or foxgloves and edelweiss. Okay. You ready? Sure. You know, drawn from certain tales

01:01:35.860 of yore, blah, blah, blah, inspiring the design of the pens. And then we set out to convey these

01:01:43.100 stories, not only in the color and the style of the pen, but by actually infusing a part of each

01:01:49.160 substance into the five different designs. That's fun. Okay. I was expecting screams. Okay.

01:01:56.100 I was expecting screams.

01:01:57.700 My eyes are wide.

01:01:58.660 Look at the eye widening I have here.

01:02:00.360 I'm very excited.

01:02:02.000 And I will be, Benu will be getting a call.

01:02:03.940 These eyes widen to the size of quarters.

01:02:06.040 How am I supposed to decide?

01:02:08.260 Yeah.

01:02:09.300 Really excited.

01:02:10.820 You ever get into Oregon?

01:02:12.540 I'm excited.

01:02:12.920 It's like resin in these sacred geometry shapes.

01:02:16.960 And then they pour like charged crystals.

01:02:19.000 And it's very, I'll send it to you.

01:02:21.180 It's pretty interesting.

01:02:24.360 Well, I'll see you in Sedona.

01:02:25.700 I'll see.

01:02:26.340 You know what I see for us?

01:02:28.000 Here's what I'm imagining.

01:02:30.700 You know what that is?

01:02:31.420 Hold on, hold on, hold on.

01:02:32.260 That's room service.

01:02:33.260 Oh my God.

01:02:34.160 Can I say hello?

01:02:34.940 Wait, can we just spend,

01:02:35.980 I know we got to go soon.

01:02:37.000 Okay.

01:02:37.160 But honestly,

01:02:37.640 can we just spend a few minutes acting?

01:02:40.240 Okay.

01:02:40.580 By which I mean going into the environment.

01:02:42.780 Okay.

01:02:42.900 Listen, listen, don't respond yet.

01:02:44.600 All right.

01:02:44.960 Here's what I'm picturing.

01:02:46.140 Us in our,

01:02:47.700 and at this point,

01:02:48.420 you know,

01:02:48.600 in our last trip,

01:02:49.200 we shared a bed,

01:02:49.800 but we could for this,

01:02:51.060 we could call in two side-by-side kings.

01:02:53.140 Yeah.

01:02:53.300 Two side-by-side queens.

01:02:54.840 There's a way.

01:02:55.420 And again, and that's a huge, that's a huge thing to say to the, to call out there.

01:02:59.620 We're able to share a room so the room can be ultra deluxe presidential suite because

01:03:03.220 we're sharing.

01:03:04.120 Yeah. 0.69

01:03:05.400 Presidential always is hysterical.

01:03:07.080 What?

01:03:07.820 Presidential suite.

01:03:08.660 When you see that, it's like, this is where we put the president when he comes.

01:03:11.940 I just think it's funny.

01:03:12.840 All right, go on.

01:03:13.880 Okay.

01:03:14.140 So I'm imagining, I see the white linen of the hotel bed.

01:03:18.940 Of course.

01:03:19.220 And I'm, I'm imagining you and imagining us in our robes.

01:03:22.780 and I hear.

01:03:26.540 Sorry, I got chills

01:03:27.800 hearing the softness.

01:03:29.000 You can act.

01:03:30.680 You can act.

01:03:31.240 Talk to you.

01:03:31.880 All right, I'll just do it.

01:03:32.780 Okay.

01:03:33.440 Oh, okay.

01:03:34.220 Imagine what would happen.

01:03:34.900 Okay, hang on.

01:03:35.580 We're talking.

01:03:36.380 The order's in.

01:03:37.300 We're talking.

01:03:37.780 We're laughing.

01:03:38.460 You're going to have to play two roles.

01:03:39.200 Yourself and whatever's coming.

01:03:40.520 Okay, so we're excited.

01:03:42.480 Yeah, I wonder.

01:03:43.240 Oh my God.

01:03:43.580 The question is going to be

01:03:44.500 whether we,

01:03:45.400 I think we do horsebacking tomorrow.

01:03:46.980 Do you know why?

01:03:47.720 I think we should get there too

01:03:48.640 because by three o'clock.

01:03:50.020 Oh my God, we're doing the same thing.

01:03:50.960 It's just so funny.

01:03:51.780 obsessive planning okay no i'm thinking we do coming wait i didn't hear the knock yeah okay

01:03:58.000 okay hold on hold go give me a minute of the first part um okay i have it i know kate i know

01:04:03.580 what we're doing i know what we're doing okay we're doing horseback riding tomorrow because

01:04:07.100 we're gonna get sore we're gonna get dirty yes but that's what i'm thinking today maybe we should

01:04:10.680 oh my god wait is that the knock wait oh my god coming all right hold on hold on i have to close

01:04:16.200 my rope i'll get it all right it's closed actually will you grab it you're closer to the door fine

01:04:20.260 hold on let me grab my mask okay okay hold on hi hi oh thank you so much you know what you can

01:04:31.740 just yeah leave it right there okay oh yep here's me signing thank you have a good day click turn

01:04:38.360 back and off come two silver tin hats there's a steaming carafe of java next you run to the door

01:04:47.980 You say, I'm sorry, I never do this,

01:04:49.660 but is there anywhere you could steam this cream?

01:04:51.880 Okay.

01:04:52.900 That's a real moment that happened.

01:04:54.860 Us, us.

01:04:56.560 Oh, you know, it's really like the dream. 0.99

01:04:58.060 It's fucking happening. 0.99

01:04:59.300 It's just huge. 0.99

01:05:00.480 Okay.

01:05:00.680 This is me to you.

01:05:02.560 Hello?

01:05:03.000 Oh, good.

01:05:03.380 You're up.

01:05:04.320 You're not up.

01:05:04.980 You're not up.

01:05:05.500 Okay.

01:05:05.640 Hold on.

01:05:06.120 You're going to let me in.

01:05:06.780 Oh, that's separate rooms?

01:05:07.420 That's separate rooms?

01:05:07.920 Okay.

01:05:08.120 Hold on.

01:05:08.560 Okay.

01:05:08.860 Yeah.

01:05:09.020 I'm going to knock on and come in.

01:05:10.040 You're still asleep.

01:05:11.100 All right.

01:05:11.480 Okay.

01:05:11.740 I'll play this out.

01:05:12.660 You have a key.

01:05:13.240 You have a key to my room.

01:05:14.040 All right, fine.

01:05:14.600 I'm going to knock and then open, but sure.

01:05:15.860 Okay, okay, okay.

01:05:16.280 See a warning.

01:05:17.120 Do I wake up?

01:05:17.860 Yeah, you're asleep.

01:05:18.820 You'll wake up.

01:05:19.280 Just play this out, okay?

01:05:20.800 Okay, okay, okay.

01:05:23.240 Kate?

01:05:24.980 Kate?

01:05:26.040 Oh, come in.

01:05:27.160 It's me.

01:05:28.180 Okay, sorry.

01:05:29.640 Hey.

01:05:31.280 All right.

01:05:32.460 I know you say you want to sleep in,

01:05:34.600 but breakfast is ending in 45 minutes.

01:05:39.120 And it looks amazing.

01:05:40.860 I'll wake up.

01:05:41.460 I'll wake up.

01:05:42.220 Okay, hold on.

01:05:42.780 I'm giving you your sweatpants.

01:05:44.040 your shoes are ready

01:05:45.700 thank you

01:05:46.980 your socks are ready

01:05:47.700 let's go down

01:05:48.560 okay

01:05:49.200 okay

01:05:50.000 you really

01:05:50.820 you'll go down

01:05:51.400 should we order in

01:05:52.440 or do you want to eat it

01:05:53.060 in the dining room

01:05:53.900 today I want to go down

01:05:54.740 I want to look around

01:05:55.840 I see what you mean

01:05:56.580 we've had luxurious room service

01:05:58.180 a few days in a row

01:05:58.940 now we should go down

01:05:59.900 slept like a baby

01:06:03.180 I want to go down

01:06:03.780 in the sun

01:06:04.240 okay

01:06:04.580 oh and don't worry

01:06:05.400 I brought

01:06:05.920 vitamin C serum

01:06:06.880 to cover our faces

01:06:07.680 while we eat

01:06:08.260 alright this is

01:06:09.260 I'm not acting

01:06:10.020 because I'm too locked

01:06:10.880 into just like

01:06:11.600 setting it out

01:06:12.240 okay but

01:06:13.100 like hello it's horseback riding time okay this is not how i'm sorry okay okay okay all right

01:06:23.500 okay here's the one wait here you can have some of my my suntan lotion okay jesus that's not what

01:06:28.940 i'd say by the way we can do separate rooms if they're literally directly next to each other or

01:06:33.540 across dare i say connecting connecting ideally and i'll be clear i'm willing to fly up to 12 hours

01:06:41.680 i am as well wow i'm not afraid to sit in a chair i'm certainly not afraid to sleep

01:06:48.900 um you know i'm certainly not afraid of sitting a chair next to you yeah for 12 hours sounds like 0.95

01:06:53.360 a fucking fantasy what is the problem there if you enjoy company i'll ask you this i guess the 1.00

01:06:59.380 hum of the fuck the hum of the airplane is too loud we could record poo in the sky not too loud 1.00

01:07:03.820 but we can't because it will be there'll be a mic in our mouth and then we throw a blanket over the 1.00

01:07:08.660 top of our heads okay we don't even need that people pay a lot of money to listen to airplane

01:07:13.820 white noise go to sleep on an app literally wow okay we could just do an airplane you just get

01:07:19.980 used to it no that's what i'm saying it's a it's a white noise that people enjoy and it could

01:07:24.140 probably be like you know okay great okay so we're going basically we're flying 11 hours up to 12

01:07:30.280 hours to somewhere spectacular and i can't wait and this is exactly the kind of thing i needed to

01:07:37.060 push me through.

01:07:38.460 I'd love to lift you up.

01:07:39.300 You lift me up as always.

01:07:40.620 I love you.

01:07:41.280 Love you.

01:07:41.620 Talk soon.

01:07:42.180 Bye.

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01:07:59.280 We are going to get on a fucking plane. 1.00

01:08:00.580 We're going to go somewhere unbelievable 1.00

01:08:01.440 because we have to celebrate our lives.

01:08:03.500 Yes.

01:08:04.180 Yes.

01:08:04.880 We have to.

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Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - January 31, 2023

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