Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - August 19, 2025


Thick with Fairies

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49 minutes

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8,959

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603

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00:00:00.000 two best friends both alike in dignity nurturing phantoms and courting the muse
00:00:07.220 the hag divines when something must die yes that was poog but this is huge the ego loves
00:00:13.240 to seek but never to find it was berlant and novak the whole time
00:00:17.920 greetings greetings hello oh hello uh apologies let me how are you actually i'm not well because
00:00:28.400 I just made a matcha that's not good, and I don't understand, and I bought premium-grade
00:00:33.640 matcha.
00:00:34.020 I've got the whisk.
00:00:34.960 I've got the sifter now, and it's just a flavor thing.
00:00:39.560 What's the milk?
00:00:40.460 What's the milk?
00:00:41.480 Well, here we go.
00:00:42.860 This is a cashew-soy blend.
00:00:44.540 Okay.
00:00:45.440 Is that the issue?
00:00:46.240 Yes, it could be.
00:00:47.160 Yeah.
00:00:48.560 I mean, is that what's different?
00:00:51.020 Yeah.
00:00:51.800 Miss you.
00:00:53.380 You know what happened to me today?
00:00:54.700 Sorry to be all over the place, as if that's not what it always has been.
00:00:58.400 You know, we talk about when the walk doesn't heal, the walk healed today.
00:01:01.900 Well, I feel like it heals for you.
00:01:03.500 Not a full heal.
00:01:06.480 Walks don't heal for me.
00:01:07.900 Walks, I mean.
00:01:08.940 Really?
00:01:09.480 I've read the books.
00:01:10.920 Okay.
00:01:11.740 It's never lifted me out of depression.
00:01:15.940 I was, well, by the way, you know what's odd?
00:01:20.480 It's just not big enough.
00:01:22.140 It's just not extreme enough.
00:01:24.460 It's too gentle.
00:01:25.620 And I bought shoes.
00:01:27.040 I also bought Manolo Blahnik shoes. 0.99
00:01:29.020 Are you fucking serious? 0.99
00:01:30.120 You bought shoes? 1.00
00:01:31.480 So.
00:01:32.500 I bought, well, on the real real, I bought Manolo Blahnik discounted down to $92 heels.
00:01:39.160 So that also gave me a little, a little, a little something.
00:01:42.480 A little boost.
00:01:48.060 Before we go into the episode, I just, I need to say this to the group.
00:01:51.560 We started Berlant and Novak six months ago, and this was a transformative time for us. It was a
00:01:57.380 real risk. We felt abandoned, not by you, by corporations. Anyway, we're not getting into
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00:03:06.440 Oh, look at that. Look at the angel. Freshly fucked, as you would say. No, but the point is,
00:03:14.060 the walk i did a thing where i was well i had a miserable migraine last night which i didn't
00:03:20.120 think was a migraine because as we all know my migraines are always consolidated to the left
00:03:23.660 side this was full cranium sides and top so i thought and i knew i was dehydrated and i had
00:03:29.940 been in the sun i was like so is this just a terrible headache ice pack helmet fell asleep
00:03:35.360 from the pain at like 9 30 like i just like knocked myself out woke up with it ice cap with
00:03:40.660 a k when i like no no i just met just a literal ice pack i put on my head and um i have to get
00:03:47.900 something's happening i'm like oh cool i'm developing food allergies later in life like
00:03:51.740 how great like suddenly anyway woke up with a stomach ache and i was in a miserable mood i mean
00:04:00.000 just like i said to naomi i was like you should stay away from me like i'm i'm bad today like
00:04:06.500 it's like going like so i'm trying to mitigate i'm trying to like i'm trying to actively mitigate
00:04:12.080 the harm that my personality is going to cause you today like it's like you know what i mean
00:04:16.460 it's like it's like and i cannot be responsible for like all i can do is be responsible now it's
00:04:21.560 like turning into a vampire like like once the moon turns yeah you know what i mean or that well
00:04:26.640 that would be a werewolf but you follow me it's like it's like yeah sometimes it's like that and
00:04:32.360 And then it's like later, if you're in that, and you're like, what?
00:04:35.320 I told you.
00:04:36.320 You know what I mean?
00:04:36.940 Like, I told you this was coming.
00:04:39.560 And then I actually, and that's why, yeah, and I was like, get out of the house now.
00:04:46.980 So I forced myself to just take a walk.
00:04:50.100 And I'm sorry, but I'm not kidding.
00:04:53.220 Hearing, again, neighbors, community, hearing an older woman say good morning to her neighbor, I go, it's all going to be okay.
00:05:00.620 Well, there was a chemical, I'll say it, okay, a chemical specifically.
00:05:07.340 That's released when you say good morning?
00:05:09.440 Yeah.
00:05:10.060 A community chemical.
00:05:12.200 I could find it.
00:05:13.100 My friend did a documentary about it.
00:05:17.100 Community chemical.
00:05:20.340 It was like, you know, there's one, but yeah, the point is, it's real.
00:05:24.620 Surprise, surprise, so is everything.
00:05:27.580 You know what I'm saying?
00:05:28.420 it's like oh yeah
00:05:30.980 well i have found i guess my version my loner version you know you know how i love to be a
00:05:37.980 regular i found it here in edinburgh a spot that i've been oh wow visiting and to me it's like in
00:05:45.020 my mind it's run by six loosely affiliated scottish brothers you know like like some some
00:05:51.440 are brothers some aren't you know what i mean but to me they're all scottish brothers and
00:05:55.620 i have become a regular okay and what does it mean it means so now i get there and it's funny
00:06:03.380 when you know you're gonna be a regular before they do like they won i was like okay this place
00:06:08.240 this place is gonna work for me okay they've got like exceptional plugs at this breakfast bar like
00:06:14.640 like not only is there the plug an outlet oh plug not only is there the outlet but there's a usbc
00:06:20.260 port right next to that so you could have two things going and it's called um brunswick book
00:06:27.780 club and they've got a charming thing where they've got a book on every table and then the
00:06:32.500 drink menu is in the book but i want to be very clear yeah they don't cut out interior pages of
00:06:37.900 the book okay to charmingly put in their drink menu as this oh we love books but only so much
00:06:44.740 as to cut out key pages right nope they're held in there like like something would be held in a
00:06:50.060 travel notebook with a rubber band point is they've got some vegan options whatever i go this
00:06:56.180 place gonna be regular i tell it chris i go i got this vegan scottish breakfast okay i i got it and
00:07:02.840 it's like all this stuff that's sort of ridiculous as a substitution like the vegan sausage is just 0.98
00:07:07.780 like a fried like vegetable roll like it you know it's like point is why do i want those goddamn 0.96
00:07:14.680 Scottish breakfasts I'll tell you okay I want the whole thing it's all about that cooked tomato yeah 0.67
00:07:20.560 the whole one that they plopped down yes next to the baked beans so I go like that's really what
00:07:25.300 I'm about I'm and I'm like ordering entire vegan breakfasts I mean the Scottish breakfast through
00:07:29.800 my years here to get to get this tomato at what point will I have the courage and I go I go give
00:07:34.080 me a few days Chris and I'll be ordering tomatoes alone and guess who guess who's there on the side
00:07:39.780 I was like, hey, so you know those tomatoes from the full Scottish breakfast?
00:07:44.520 And I've been getting them.
00:07:45.700 That seems totally valid.
00:07:47.040 And they know, okay, when they're shopped at first, but now they know the girl loves the tomatoes.
00:07:51.860 And then I also get double a special.
00:07:53.500 So what do you get, like four tomatoes on a plate?
00:07:55.220 Well, I also get other things, like their house salad, and I get their vegan plant-based chili.
00:08:01.760 So the point is then I just go, and a couple of those tomatoes, you know.
00:08:05.260 And now they know.
00:08:05.800 And then I actually had a great experience in Brooklyn where one of the gorgeous tomatoes in a salad, it went flying off the plate, landed on the ground, picked it up, and I just, I wasn't going to leave it on the ground.
00:08:17.060 It was gorgeous.
00:08:17.700 You know what I mean?
00:08:18.220 And so I just said that.
00:08:19.680 It's not that I'm not eating that.
00:08:21.040 It fell on the ground.
00:08:22.420 Yeah.
00:08:23.480 They brought me another.
00:08:25.120 Well, that's what you do.
00:08:27.660 Okay.
00:08:27.920 And I go, oh, my God.
00:08:29.020 I go, and I was just so embarrassed.
00:08:30.280 I go, I need you to know when I told you I lost a tomato, it was not trying to get another tomato.
00:08:35.740 I accepted it as a loss of my own 0.98
00:08:38.680 tomato beggar 1.00
00:08:39.420 okay yes I wasn't like
00:08:41.900 I lost it you know I just didn't
00:08:44.180 wait seeing it on the ground and just think like
00:08:46.120 I don't know so
00:08:47.620 discarded but today I get there
00:08:49.800 I'm not even into the restaurant okay
00:08:51.560 double double okay and he's like 0.92
00:08:54.080 it's like my quadruple
00:08:56.120 shot of espresso over ice 0.99
00:08:57.420 and they've been fucking nailing it 0.98
00:08:59.440 to the best degree I've seen in this country 0.99
00:09:01.820 because I've talked about this right with the ice
00:09:04.060 the begging for ice
00:09:05.240 no like no you know they they think we're strange and how much ice we want in our drinks and stuff
00:09:10.360 okay so i it's totally an american i've said like i like a crazy i go like a crazy amount of ice
00:09:17.040 like i go like insane i'm like can i just get like okay like i've done these i've done these
00:09:21.420 jester acts okay to try to explain because how much ice do they give you here's here's what it
00:09:27.080 is the ice is floating it's not clinking against itself yeah yeah okay and if there's not enough
00:09:33.340 it melts too quick of course so it's it's it's like it needs to be clinging against itself like
00:09:39.960 like clatter clatter clatter feeling not floating yeah so and then i started going into place and
00:09:46.300 going can i get um you know you know four shots of espresso and can i get a glass of ice cup of ice
00:09:51.280 yeah i said that here to try to you know just set things up from the top and they come out
00:09:56.600 but they've served it or they have to go will this do you know like they already have pre-done
00:10:00.100 it and it would they did a good job so they understand me great anyway i go in there you know
00:10:07.700 it's a little embarrassing getting this giant platter of chili and sort of like
00:10:12.200 you know like not really i guess what it is is it's too much chili and i can't not eat it all
00:10:18.860 because it's so damn good and i'm like you guys like you know it's too much do you think it's
00:10:26.540 because it's plant-based.
00:10:27.740 I've got to see a picture of this big chili. 1.00
00:10:29.760 They're like, we need to fill her up. 1.00
00:10:30.900 Yeah, totally.
00:10:31.560 They're like, she's not having steak. 0.97
00:10:32.580 We've got to give her extra chili.
00:10:33.860 Anyway, I'm quite happy to have, and then I go there,
00:10:35.680 I've got my computer going and got my earbuds in.
00:10:37.720 I've got nine kinds of software running on my computer,
00:10:41.040 including my new time management software
00:10:42.960 that every couple days I remember I'm using, Timo, T-I-I-M-O.
00:10:47.880 What does it do?
00:10:48.440 Well, you know, it talks to you in a nice voice.
00:10:52.080 Really?
00:10:52.920 It's designed for sort of ADD kind of thing.
00:10:56.420 it's like it's got a few things going for it
00:10:58.500 it's got a few things going for it
00:11:00.680 it's worth trying
00:11:01.520 I need to try for ADD and everything
00:11:04.620 I gotta get back into microdosing
00:11:06.380 I've got a little microdose vial of
00:11:08.640 LSD
00:11:09.380 I need to get the little mushrooms
00:11:11.920 someone at a party gave me a
00:11:14.740 microdose molly gummies 0.72
00:11:16.920 I go whoa 0.98
00:11:17.720 I'm scared of molly because the last time I did molly
00:11:20.460 10,000 years ago it gave me a 3 day migraine
00:11:22.900 oh wow
00:11:23.220 you might want to be careful
00:11:24.880 yeah um exactly so i'm like what but hypothetically i love it what about these guided therapies like
00:11:32.740 or these assisted therapies you know what i mean i'm kind of intrigued we can't seem to get the
00:11:37.920 answers oh you mean like ketamine and then there's some other ones i think there's other kinds of
00:11:42.380 like psychedelic you know guided in office kind of things i mean do you know much about the ketamine
00:11:48.200 thing they'll guide you they'll guide you through anything i've had a couple of friends that have
00:11:52.700 done it and loved it and saw a lasting change neuroplasticity rewired i think so i think so
00:11:58.880 it's just funny like you know it's like you go through that like let's say you do these sessions
00:12:02.700 and it's like yeah for the next couple weeks you're gonna be really plastic like you're gonna
00:12:06.880 be really porous you know and so you're you're basically like you're walking around like a
00:12:12.480 mouth guard that's cooling into a position you know and like yeah and then like you know your 0.93
00:12:18.100 mother a lot comes you know what i mean it's like yeah careful yeah yeah fucked up the mold 0.74
00:12:24.280 yeah i don't know i'm interested i am doing a whole my new thing that's gonna save me is my 0.61
00:12:30.860 garden and i'm doing a big backyard situation native plants shout out to solace gardens and
00:12:38.040 then i and yesterday i had a healing community experience going to alexander pain foundation
00:12:42.800 which is this unbelievable outdoor nursery like sanctuary where you walk through the gardens and
00:12:48.380 you look at all the plants and they're like you know so knowledgeable and it feels like okay
00:12:54.000 we're gonna be okay we're gonna get we're gonna get through this thing it's drought tolerant you
00:12:59.080 know plants yeah smell amazing it's like all it takes is someone going smell this takes a leaf
00:13:05.660 off brings it to my nose it's like the most fragrant it seems like it's been made in a lab 0.80
00:13:09.400 like in arkansas it's so it's like how could nature produce this anyway so i'm like that's 0.62
00:13:15.320 gonna when i have the butter i'm doing like plants the wool track butterflies when i'm back there
00:13:21.080 and i've got the they're gonna be one of these i have grape grapes grape vines little bunches
00:13:26.560 of grapes dripping no yeah what was your remember you thought you killed your tree did that ever
00:13:31.920 come around or solace help you out with that i mean it is endless solace is helping tree i'm gonna
00:13:39.480 i have to get well this is the thing i gotta you know it's a water situation i gotta because i'm
00:13:43.340 gonna gonna gonna do drought tolerance i won't be needing a ton of water but i gotta do a bunch
00:13:48.540 of water on the orange tree i don't know it's it's yeah why don't you go cactus only almost
00:13:52.360 can you just do full cactus yeah i don't but i i don't just want cactus i love that i think that's
00:13:58.000 cool that's not me i love that though i think that's cool i need some plants i need some
00:14:02.580 flowers i want to see some flowers i want some color not the cacti don't produce flowers of
00:14:07.520 course there are drought tolerant things that aren't fully cactus the point is you want blossoming
00:14:12.160 blooms yeah i want some it's going to be a it's going to be a mix but um how interesting i'm
00:14:18.820 fully like and i want them to send a new model to experience it shout out to aura ring who sent
00:14:25.180 like who sent us aura rings in the olden days of poog and now i'm back on it i'm wearing it every
00:14:30.160 day to experience your garden not all day sorry completely separate from the garden completely
00:14:34.560 separate from the garden i just mean the sleep tracker and the steps trackers is fun you're 0.78
00:14:41.680 gone again you're gonna be this like here it is folks i'm gonna say it apple rolls shit out it 0.61
00:14:49.040 has not figured out too soon for example siri remember when they rolled out siri oh well siri's 1.00
00:14:57.600 siri can't do shit okay it's like sometimes i say to her you fucking useless bitch i get angry and 0.99
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00:17:01.620 Is that your new banquet?
00:17:02.900 No, that's not Dennis Gross. 1.00
00:17:04.720 That's, um, bitch. 1.00
00:17:07.520 Oh, yeah, bank head. 1.00
00:17:08.340 Bank head is here.
00:17:10.780 Yes, I'm so happy for you.
00:17:12.180 Isn't it gorgeous?
00:17:12.460 it's beautiful i'm gonna send you the full pictures thank you for noticing thank you for
00:17:17.240 noticing and there's book storage below you can't see it right now i'll send you a picture
00:17:21.400 it's fabulous shout out to sky chamberlain incredible artisan i saw someone what do you
00:17:28.680 do when this happens i was on my walk i saw someone it's so fascinating someone i don't
00:17:33.360 even know well acquaintance over the years i recognized him didn't see the side just back
00:17:38.160 of the head just back of like recognized him like it was it was just kind of weird because there's a
00:17:43.120 lot of things we don't notice that we notice i know and i don't even know like i don't know if
00:17:48.880 he has tattoos or not like i just know i did but he does but i didn't know that like i but i was
00:17:53.300 like that's him haven't seen him honestly in years and i saw him do something like he didn't know
00:18:00.900 that anyone who's being observed but it's something that i was like wow that's kind of
00:18:04.560 cool and i want to steal that i saw him do almost he like bowed to a tree are you sure he did like
00:18:11.080 he are you sure is the perfect question by the way no he like kind of yeah it was like a like
00:18:20.820 put his hands up like put his hand it was like i saw it as prostrating before a tree it certainly
00:18:26.380 could not stretching his back using the tree as soon as i said i'm realizing it could like trying
00:18:33.020 Trying to get the upper between those traps.
00:18:36.600 He could have just been going.
00:18:37.420 It's a very good feeling.
00:18:38.620 Yeah.
00:18:39.480 Also because he was like, he was jogging.
00:18:42.500 And then was he definitely the man you thought he was?
00:18:45.500 Yeah, because I texted, did I just see you?
00:18:47.200 And he goes, yes, that's me.
00:18:48.480 Turns out we're like neighbors.
00:18:49.960 I know.
00:18:50.600 And like, I saw you prostrating before nature.
00:18:52.780 No, I thought it was cool. 0.99
00:18:54.020 I was like, that's fucking cool. 0.86
00:18:55.140 I should be doing that. 0.96
00:18:55.800 So you're telling me Oaxaca with a W is a chain in the UK of plant-based Mexican food?
00:19:03.600 Yeah, honey.
00:19:04.920 I've seen it in London.
00:19:06.120 This is great.
00:19:06.320 This is great news because I've been loving it.
00:19:10.060 By the way.
00:19:11.180 What you got there?
00:19:12.100 Well, I'll definitely experience it when I go to London.
00:19:15.520 Guess what?
00:19:16.440 I am a fish.
00:19:17.280 By the way, I tried to start this week.
00:19:19.320 Got a slight tech hiccup, but it's happening soon.
00:19:21.840 Oh, my God.
00:19:22.680 The light phone?
00:19:23.540 Yeah.
00:19:23.940 You didn't give mine away yet, did you?
00:19:26.500 Of course not.
00:19:28.280 Give it away.
00:19:29.100 To your cousin? 0.93
00:19:30.180 If Novak wants it, she should have come back to the country sooner or something.
00:19:33.020 cousin ain't getting this are you excited yes i'm hoping that i can get it installed so that i'm
00:19:38.840 because because guess what sweetheart guess who's going back to el roblar and oh hi
00:19:42.760 can't stay away um now i'm gonna take it what do you think it's gonna do for you
00:19:50.760 i don't mean that as a doubt doubt and negativity oh like the light phone or oh hi light phone
00:19:59.400 Okay, so here's what I'm going to do.
00:20:00.980 I'm going to get a separate phone number.
00:20:02.300 Yeah.
00:20:02.680 It's going to be involved.
00:20:03.880 This is kind of a thing.
00:20:05.380 And I really hope it can work because, listen, and I'll tell people, if you're looking to
00:20:10.620 minimize phone use, I purchased a brick.
00:20:13.200 It really does help.
00:20:14.280 I can never remember what the hell that is again.
00:20:16.520 And so ostensibly, it's like, just use a brick.
00:20:18.680 You lay it down on something?
00:20:20.120 Like.
00:20:20.560 Oh, right.
00:20:20.960 I always.
00:20:22.000 It's literally a tile that has a magnet on it.
00:20:25.660 And you can block whatever apps you want.
00:20:28.280 So I've done it where, for me, because, again, I'm addicted to the most pathetic thing, which is Instagram, okay?
00:20:34.440 So if I don't have Instagram on my phone, sure, I'm texting, and that is the issue, right, texting, emailing, all of it.
00:20:40.040 But the point is, you can brick the apps.
00:20:43.740 I brick email, Instagram, internet, you're free.
00:20:48.860 So I think that is good.
00:20:49.860 It's also a more cost-effective alternative, I think, of brick. 0.97
00:20:52.340 Have you started my thing, my trick of when you lift up your phone, like I want to fuck around on my phone and you just open a book on your phone? 0.98
00:20:59.480 It's huge. 0.98
00:21:00.020 I really like that, your idea of that.
00:21:01.960 Like I did some focus modes where I like slimmed it down.
00:21:05.780 Like, okay, this is like a whatever mode.
00:21:08.200 And you go into this particular focus mode and it like blocks every app except for like three that are nutrient dense.
00:21:14.340 Yeah, totally.
00:21:15.400 Well, the thing with the light phone that's tough is that I just fucking do rely sometimes, of course, on rideshare apps, whatever.
00:21:22.340 but another thing you can do to minimize your phone use is this, is making it go grayscale.
00:21:28.560 My friend was describing watching a toddler, like his friend's toddler was immersed in the iPad.
00:21:36.800 Toddler's parents should be tried at the hay.
00:21:38.880 Oh, wow.
00:21:39.620 And then my friend went in there and changed the settings on it to make it grayscale.
00:21:45.980 And he said he watched the kid pick it up and just go, ugh, and put it down.
00:21:49.460 Like didn't even, it had lost all of its power.
00:21:51.880 Wow. Although I remember years ago, something was wrong with the television in the apartment I was living in and everything was, it was essentially green scale, you know, like grayish, but like shades of green.
00:22:05.540 TV's different though.
00:22:06.420 And like, you know, it was like insane, but then quickly did I adjust, right? And it was like, how can you watch that? It was like, what do you mean? You know, like it, it just, it just becomes what it is.
00:22:18.420 Yeah. We adapt. What was I just saying about this? I was like, the way we adapt, the speed with which we adapt is shocking.
00:22:28.220 Yeah. And it can be a tool or it can be your fucking demise. It can be the end of you. 1.00
00:22:35.580 Certainly. I'm enjoying something, which is at night, I like to watch a crime show called Department Q that takes place in Edinburgh.
00:22:45.080 Oh, yeah.
00:22:45.520 It takes place in Edinburgh.
00:22:47.440 So it's really cozy.
00:22:49.240 People love that.
00:22:50.120 Oh, really?
00:22:50.340 They do?
00:22:50.840 It's really cozy to watch it here.
00:22:53.100 Ooh.
00:22:54.560 In Edinburgh.
00:22:56.880 Huge news for the community.
00:22:58.640 What?
00:22:59.220 One video.
00:23:00.700 Oh, wait, but I do want to talk about what it feels like watching television at night.
00:23:04.580 There's something about specifically getting into routines.
00:23:08.620 Two things.
00:23:09.200 One, I'm into this thing, which is like, so I watch the show.
00:23:13.380 I stay up late.
00:23:14.220 like chris has fallen asleep i i plow ahead okay and there's this feeling of when i'm just saying 0.98
00:23:20.480 fuck it like i'm not gonna try to adjust to the time okay i'm gonna just go deeper into the belly 0.94
00:23:25.900 of the night and the show and then i know that because i'm actually looking forward to say the 0.99
00:23:31.960 next night settling in to do some some tasks okay i'm a computer while he catches up okay
00:23:39.960 Oh, I see.
00:23:40.940 So it's really cozy to sort of have already seen it, have it going.
00:23:45.080 It's like half entertainment.
00:23:47.940 And so I can get stuff done while being cradled by the television program that I've already seen, right?
00:23:52.880 That sounds really nice.
00:23:54.200 It's seven.
00:23:55.020 Okay.
00:23:55.540 That sounds really good.
00:23:56.400 But then I catch him not paying attention.
00:23:59.540 And I'm like, hello?
00:24:00.980 You know what I mean?
00:24:01.660 Did you see that?
00:24:02.040 Well, actually, I'm happy to do it again.
00:24:03.660 I'm happy to do the same routine again.
00:24:04.880 I was like, you know, become a scholar of just the show I happen to be watching is also kind of an interesting act.
00:24:11.460 Like not going, what is the show I should become a scholar of? 0.95
00:24:15.020 Just whatever the fuck you're watching, just see what happens if you watch it 10 times. 0.91
00:24:19.060 What might be revealed? 0.98
00:24:21.380 So two things.
00:24:22.620 One, I wonder if you saw this too.
00:24:25.100 It was like someone on Instagram watching another video of a cheek exercise thing and being like,
00:24:30.300 these exercises where you're bulking the facial muscles instead of using filler or something, right?
00:24:34.880 this this one lady was like no like that's not the answer like yeah it'll work in short term but
00:24:42.080 blah blah blah blah actually all the problems are related to tension in the face and bulking
00:24:45.980 these muscles that are supposed to be mimetic muscles actually isn't the water and it really
00:24:50.020 and i was like oh you know i was like oh my god yeah okay okay and then makes me thrilled because
00:24:57.340 i haven't done a single cheap squat right and then i mean but the real but you know and then
00:25:03.420 And someone commenting below, you know, can you respect that there are different modalities and different approaches and da-da-da-da-da.
00:25:09.240 And then, you know, I wasn't coming for you specifically, blah-blah. 0.99
00:25:12.120 Right, right, right. 1.00
00:25:13.100 It was interesting.
00:25:17.620 You know, that's what we do.
00:25:21.160 We chase the latest.
00:25:24.360 I mean, not even really.
00:25:25.860 I don't know.
00:25:26.680 It just felt like news.
00:25:27.280 We chase it down.
00:25:28.280 It felt like news, given what a proponent, how taken I've been with the idea that cheek squats, I don't know, I'm tired of it, I'm tired of it all, I've changed.
00:25:41.820 Guess what I'm getting in two weeks?
00:25:47.020 Microdermabrasion.
00:25:49.260 Microneedling?
00:25:51.740 Microneedling with salmon sperm.
00:25:53.600 Oh, right. 1.00
00:25:55.260 You little L.A. bitch. 1.00
00:25:58.280 slut I know you little you are you know what do you think of this Jacqueline what do you think of 1.00
00:26:04.680 this because Jacqueline and I were told directly from a very high profile facialist don't ever do 0.98
00:26:14.040 radio frequency right she said don't ever do that multi-fat in the face whatever I go I'll never do
00:26:19.480 it mommy I'll never do it then I was just told this idea she goes what what I would suggest is
00:26:27.720 such a low level of the of the radio frequency she's like it's not melting your fat she's like
00:26:34.580 i'm not going that deep she's like i would do such a subtle amount that what you would just get
00:26:39.340 is lift what are your thoughts don't even touch it i can't remember what rf does or is i can't 0.76
00:26:46.420 i haven't done any of this shit i've done nothing the rf thing like i can't even remember that that
00:26:53.520 I remember the person we were talking to, and I didn't remember that that was what— 0.84
00:26:58.440 But you're saying that someone came in and said,
00:27:00.540 no, I'm going to do it to you, but I'm going to do it so light that whatever?
00:27:03.900 Yeah, yeah. 0.89
00:27:04.620 She's like, yeah, it can be damaging if you're doing it really hot.
00:27:08.120 And then they brought out the card reader.
00:27:11.040 Yeah, exactly.
00:27:12.380 Well, I haven't done anything yet.
00:27:14.000 I don't know.
00:27:15.020 I'm having trouble mustering excitement for skincare at this time.
00:27:19.160 I got to say, my untouched, you know, naturally drying hair, fresh out of the ponytail, pretty good.
00:27:26.440 Gorgeous.
00:27:27.160 What is it?
00:27:28.140 It's way leave-in conditioner spritzed into the ends after shampooing.
00:27:32.180 I just shampoo, that's it, and then spritz this into the end.
00:27:34.920 And I comb it getting out of the shower so long, I basically have to comb it.
00:27:39.700 Do you ever diffuse?
00:27:41.100 I mean, not really.
00:27:42.180 You go natural dry.
00:27:43.680 Natural dry, I really think that is – because I'm really diffusing. 0.98
00:27:48.120 I let my hair dry naturally the other day, and I was like, damn. 0.84
00:27:51.260 The reason why I don't do it is that very often I'm rushing to go somewhere. 0.93
00:27:55.560 I can't just show up with wet hair.
00:27:57.420 I always show up with wet hair.
00:27:58.620 I think it's one of the classiest looks.
00:28:01.320 I actually saw someone.
00:28:02.680 You're never so clean.
00:28:03.240 I was actually very moved by a woman that I just know barely were acquaintances.
00:28:09.320 And I think she's gorgeous between us.
00:28:11.700 And I ran into her at an event.
00:28:14.680 There I am, dressed to the nines.
00:28:16.360 there she is kind of wet hair she's also like gorgeous and 25 or whatever but i was like whoa
00:28:24.840 the power move of showing up at an event where other people are like done up and you're in you're 0.98
00:28:30.820 partially wet hair what was that like no makeup but again she's like a super are there jeans like 0.68
00:28:36.180 how much is because i mean again no she was wearing a skirt she was she was dressed she was
00:28:40.940 wearing like a cute skirt she was wearing like a dressed up shoe i mean i want to be very clear
00:28:46.940 i go on stage with wet hair okay okay yeah i want credit right now as as king of showing up with wet
00:28:56.280 hair because to me it's like i don't know men have wet hair a lot and it just dries it's a very
00:29:04.140 clean look. I mean, hair dries pretty quick. Am I wrong? I think conditioner is one of the
00:29:12.380 biggest lies for my personal hair texture because I haven't used it in years, okay?
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00:30:53.920 was healed by the ocean went to the ocean the other day unbelievable it's amazing what just
00:31:03.260 a couple dunks in the water restored femininity restored nothing like it god i got it i might
00:31:11.400 have to get into these scottish waters because i don't know there's something about i found the
00:31:18.180 woods here have you done the hike the thing where you go up on that hill not this time up to arthur's
00:31:23.360 seat. But Chris like runs through a forest up a hill like 10 times here. Like there's some crazy
00:31:29.860 thing he's doing. I could see a restaurant on the top and I can't bring myself to walk up there.
00:31:34.300 Just in a restaurant. Yeah. But he's like, and like all the times that I've gone through parks
00:31:42.060 here or these other parks, these forests here, there's something when I see the trees here,
00:31:45.780 just on the edge, you know, beyond a wall or something, something's up. Okay. I really feel
00:31:51.880 there is something mystical in these
00:31:53.820 I believe it. In these Scottish woods.
00:31:56.740 Like, you
00:31:57.840 can feel it. Like, they're
00:31:59.840 thick with fairies, is the feeling. 1.00
00:32:03.220 I believe it. 1.00
00:32:03.940 It really feels like it. It's like
00:32:06.060 Oh, thick with fairies. 1.00
00:32:12.160 It really does. It really does feel 1.00
00:32:13.960 like, it's like
00:32:14.620 Speaking of just magical little encounters
00:32:17.920 with nature, taking a walk
00:32:19.860 the other night in the neighborhood.
00:32:21.880 There's a guy, two women, I see, wait, what are they holding?
00:32:26.080 Two of them are holding tiny kittens, like sweet little kittens.
00:32:29.220 Not like so little that they look like bugs, like at full kitten status, like tiny, but great.
00:32:35.080 And I'm like, oh, my God.
00:32:37.220 They've never looked like bugs to me.
00:32:39.240 I mean, do you mean that negatively or do you just mean like?
00:32:41.580 I mean when they're like so little that they can't open their eyes.
00:32:44.220 Like they registered as kittens.
00:32:45.120 Like these were full kittens.
00:32:47.200 And then it turns out, oh, this is our neighbor.
00:32:49.940 He's fostering five kittens.
00:32:50.940 He goes, come on in.
00:32:52.620 We go into his house.
00:32:54.060 He's offering us tea.
00:32:56.100 There are five kittens, like, jumping all over each other, tripping all over each other, jumping on our shoes.
00:33:01.860 Can you believe how cute?
00:33:03.060 Okay.
00:33:03.700 I mean, it just was a magical experience.
00:33:05.980 Okay, I'm listening.
00:33:07.680 And then you each opened two of your own pockets.
00:33:12.800 He was like, you sure you don't want a kitten?
00:33:15.420 He's like, and they were so sweet.
00:33:17.800 their their little personalities immediately making themselves evident like oh this is the
00:33:22.320 one that really wants to like jump all over the place completely that's the one who's shy it was
00:33:25.660 like so sweet watching them like bite each other's tails and like i mean it was it was crazy but
00:33:30.640 imagine a neighbor do you want to come in tea we said oh no no no we're just on our walk
00:33:36.280 sure you don't want any tea he's making up tea can you believe it poison poison tea
00:33:42.140 it's wild well yeah yeah of course oh I can believe it um what were the kittens what did
00:33:52.200 they look like two were kind of gray or not kind of gray gray and then two were kind of the classic
00:33:58.620 kitten thing of like black and not black and white but like the the tortoiseshell coloring
00:34:03.620 yeah abby look yeah um standard issue cat they call it sometimes on reddit they're like I just
00:34:10.600 This is my SIC or whatever.
00:34:12.280 There was another standard issue, like when it's like this sort of tabby.
00:34:17.320 And then there's like, you know, I've probably talked about this in here, but God, the community, the cat community on Reddit, it's unbelievable.
00:34:23.400 But it's like the void cat or like the black ones.
00:34:26.780 Void cat?
00:34:27.140 Like, you know, like they all, yeah, like the ones that like are pitch black, like a proper like Halloween cat.
00:34:35.400 And then the orange brain cell or no, no, no, orange ones are like the one brain cells.
00:34:39.120 They have all these communities for people like, but the joke is like, you know, they're all domestic short hair.
00:34:44.900 I told you that.
00:34:45.880 It's like they have different colors.
00:34:48.240 They're not actually different breeds, really.
00:34:50.080 Oh, just different colors, of course.
00:34:52.080 You know what I mean?
00:34:52.700 They're just like, they have different like calico.
00:34:55.100 It's just like different fur patterns, whatever.
00:34:56.720 I mean, there are different breeds of cats, but like all these people being like, well, my cat, my cat.
00:35:01.740 It's like, I don't know, I'm half repeating secondary Reddit cat humor, but I got, you know, you go, I'm not going to open the Instagram, but you do, sometimes you get rewarded.
00:35:18.000 You go, well, thank God they fed me this.
00:35:20.120 And it's just like earlier I saw, you know, a scared kitten that an older cat came in and like showed the way.
00:35:28.580 So sweet.
00:35:28.920 It was so scared and it was hissing and the whole thing.
00:35:31.000 and then I watched that. 0.99
00:35:33.080 I watched the shit out of that. 0.99
00:35:35.740 I know. 0.97
00:35:36.180 I can't believe you have foster kittens nearby.
00:35:38.020 I need to show you two things
00:35:39.220 and I want you to show you like a meme
00:35:42.040 that really got me
00:35:44.220 and I will be posting it.
00:35:47.480 Okay, maybe I already talked about this
00:35:49.020 on the podcast.
00:35:49.720 Remind me.
00:35:50.840 It said it was a picture of a spider
00:35:52.680 with a tear,
00:35:53.600 like an animation,
00:35:54.500 like a crude animation of a spider
00:35:55.900 with a tear drop.
00:35:56.560 Is that how I tell you this?
00:35:57.440 And it said,
00:35:58.180 I'm sorry for scaring you
00:36:00.120 but I did not know that being seen would cost me my life. 0.97
00:36:04.380 And it fucking tore through me, wrecked me. 0.98
00:36:09.740 I'm looking. 0.99
00:36:10.740 I thought something humorous was coming.
00:36:12.200 I found it. 0.99
00:36:14.540 This truly fucking wrecked me. 0.94
00:36:19.100 I'm texting it to you and we will be posting it. 0.98
00:36:21.740 Look at this.
00:36:23.560 Oh, okay.
00:36:25.040 It's animated.
00:36:26.060 Sorry.
00:36:26.240 As it was coming into view, I thought I was, like, starting to see the scariest image of a spider I've ever seen and had an authentic reaction to it.
00:36:34.860 All right, all right. 0.97
00:36:36.420 It fucking really worked on me. 0.96
00:36:38.540 And I have to say, I mean, I don't go out of my way to kill spiders, and my loving partner will take them all out of the house. 0.99
00:36:45.960 Like, they really don't want to kill them.
00:36:48.200 But then yesterday, I'm getting into the bath. 1.00
00:36:50.220 There's a fucking spider in the bath. 1.00
00:36:51.680 I go, you're going to die. 1.00
00:36:55.020 I know.
00:36:55.740 Like, and I was saying to it, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
00:36:59.580 But it's like, I can't, yeah.
00:37:01.880 Really?
00:37:04.340 Because you were just like a napkin or whatever. 0.99
00:37:06.640 I thought you had that thing for vacuuming them. 0.98
00:37:08.800 I don't know where, by the way, where the fuck is it? 0.89
00:37:11.200 It's something that I feel like got lost in the move. 0.98
00:37:12.780 Yes, I have a spider catcher.
00:37:14.760 I just feel like it needs to be 10 feet longer, that tube.
00:37:20.620 I don't want my hand a foot from it.
00:37:22.140 Honey, it's less than a foot.
00:37:22.960 The whole point would be that I'm afraid.
00:37:24.020 We should invent one or produce one or produce an add-on that fits onto that thing.
00:37:30.320 That's the POOG long one.
00:37:32.340 This is a contraption that I got years ago that I love.
00:37:35.220 It's a bug catcher.
00:37:36.480 Never forget, my friend bought one, and he ended up catching a mouse in it.
00:37:41.800 But there's a little window so you can observe them because I love observing insects.
00:37:47.100 But you can put it down, snatch it, and then you can fling it out the door or whatever.
00:37:51.860 but I didn't have if I'd had it handy I would have done that but I didn't and quite frankly I
00:37:56.800 was naked I was there in the bath and I was like I'd I can't put the spider on the piece of paper
00:38:02.320 and make the journey from the bathtub to the front door it's not happening yeah but that that little
00:38:06.560 illustration no it's it's um I did not know being I'm sorry for scaring you but I did not know being
00:38:12.280 seen would cost me my life it does the human drama yeah exactly it's um well that yeah yeah
00:38:20.000 I mean, the one thing, you know, when a mosquito's on you and you slap, that feels pretty much God-given, right?
00:38:30.040 Mosquitoes. 0.99
00:38:30.600 Sucking your blood. 0.98
00:38:32.380 Mosquitoes actually probably the one insect I feel like the one – it's like I feel no remorse for a mosquito. 0.99
00:38:37.440 Yeah.
00:38:37.720 I mean, who does?
00:38:38.880 Which is, you know, not fair, right?
00:38:42.200 Can spread disease.
00:38:43.000 disease well but i do think given that they carry disease and suck our blood it's like we're just
00:38:49.100 like we're built to swat at them um i don't know so once i start getting into trying to get like a
00:38:56.560 fly out the door from between or between the two window you know the window pane and the screen or
00:39:02.860 something like that and it becomes like i'm involved in this scenario with it i i start to
00:39:07.860 feel like who am I to snuff out its life like who am I to snuff out the the uh you know the fly
00:39:16.280 it's just totally what am I doing I don't know it becomes it becomes like
00:39:20.740 there she blows hey speaking of television last night I watched or began to watch and then fell
00:39:30.980 asleep due to the horrible migraine new alien series just dropped on fx alien earth oh really
00:39:37.800 Seems a little fun.
00:39:38.660 Cool.
00:39:39.220 I have to say, it's very top shelf, well-made.
00:39:44.940 I go, you know, the original Alien is one of my favorite movies.
00:39:50.640 And it's the weird moment that we're in culturally where we just cannot imagine a future.
00:39:55.760 Like the earth, we cannot imagine a future.
00:39:58.420 So we just endlessly reproduce the past.
00:40:01.540 You mean in visions of the future?
00:40:03.240 Like it looks like the 50s again? 1.00
00:40:04.540 That kind of shit? 0.99
00:40:05.040 Yeah, well, I just mean like all culture now. 1.00
00:40:06.720 Everything's a remake.
00:40:07.800 I mean, for about a million reasons, but I mean, just like the only thing we can do is
00:40:12.400 regurgitate the past, and that's obviously being mirrored with AI, too.
00:40:15.120 AI can't create anything new.
00:40:16.360 It can only reproduce what's been made or cobble together things that have already been 0.99
00:40:19.920 made, and that's why it fucking has to be destroyed, and it's the end of humanity, but 0.99
00:40:22.420 it's too late. 1.00
00:40:22.920 We can't destroy it.
00:40:25.300 Because people in power don't care.
00:40:27.820 Anyway, the point is, but in the show, I got a little, because they're kind of expertly
00:40:33.420 trying to capture the amazing scene alien of them all around the table and it's you know 70s
00:40:41.440 like but it feels embarrassing to watch it when you love the original because it's like 0.88
00:40:47.260 you think i'm this little whore that's just going to go this reminds it's it's the uncanny valley
00:40:52.800 thing it's so close to the thing because it's not it's so eerie it becomes so removed this is not 0.68
00:40:58.920 a criticism of the show and i would love um i'm going to watch more but i just meant like it's
00:41:04.580 just such a depressing time to be alive in a few way in a few ways but you know what i mean where
00:41:10.260 i was like god they're really they go hey we love alien we love that scene in alien when they're all
00:41:15.340 around the table yes we all love that scene that's what's so amazing and really and literally
00:41:19.820 gonna remake it yes and we watch that scene and we go wow like and also when you watch that scene
00:41:25.400 when you watch i've seen an alien today you're like god now movies big alien movies right are so
00:41:31.060 dumbed down and so like they're it's just pure comfort cinema they would never allow a scene
00:41:36.100 to kind of linger in this conversational thing of here are the astronauts or the astronauts what
00:41:40.460 would you call them yeah they're in space and they're having you know they're like waking up
00:41:44.220 eating chinese food smoking cigarettes after being put down for 65 years or whatever it's like
00:41:49.260 Anyway, I just found it eerie.
00:41:53.040 Well, right.
00:41:53.660 Tanako, we loved it.
00:41:54.780 Why did we love it, right?
00:41:56.120 Let's recreate it exactly.
00:41:58.240 Because this was a genre, and instead, you know, well, what was it?
00:42:01.840 It was a kind of scene you wouldn't see in this sort of genre thing.
00:42:06.280 Okay, well, what might that look like here?
00:42:08.040 How might we apply that here and do something interesting?
00:42:10.780 Instead, it just becomes this bizarro.
00:42:13.280 Replication.
00:42:14.020 You know, reference.
00:42:15.300 Yeah.
00:42:15.680 Yeah.
00:42:16.180 There's no driving intention guiding it.
00:42:19.260 With stiff movement.
00:42:20.720 It's what we would refer to as authorless.
00:42:23.760 However, it did do a good job, and I will be watching more.
00:42:27.800 Media report.
00:42:28.760 Can't wait to see.
00:42:29.400 I keep calling it Watchers.
00:42:30.760 Weapons.
00:42:31.120 I'm just trying to see.
00:42:31.900 I really want to see Weapons.
00:42:33.440 But I've been calling it Watchers.
00:42:35.420 What is it called?
00:42:36.740 It's called Weapons.
00:42:38.000 Sorry, I'm jumping.
00:42:39.120 I thought it was called Alien Earth.
00:42:39.700 This is a movie.
00:42:40.160 Alien Earth is a television show on FX.
00:42:42.760 Weapons is a theatrical film.
00:42:45.860 Theatrical release.
00:42:46.860 Yeah, I feel really out of that.
00:42:49.260 Oh, Weapons is Julia.
00:42:52.880 Love Julia, honey. 0.70
00:42:53.940 Love Julia.
00:42:54.760 It's going to be good.
00:42:55.820 It's going to be good.
00:42:57.720 I'm just thinking about ordering from Oaxaca tonight.
00:43:03.060 This podcast is unbelievable.
00:43:05.620 Cue up the department queue.
00:43:08.980 Well, now it's almost like I'm not saying that I'll never be aiming for, you know, to really turn it on or do entertainment.
00:43:17.640 As a friend.
00:43:19.260 It's a spectacle of continuation.
00:43:22.580 Yeah, the episodes are a spectacle of commitment and continuation.
00:43:26.760 It's like I'm dying.
00:43:29.060 I'm lying on the floor.
00:43:32.260 I'm in the rock climbing position.
00:43:33.640 Oh, yeah, totally.
00:43:34.280 You know what I'm talking about?
00:43:35.000 You're clinging.
00:43:35.520 No, but I love that.
00:43:37.380 Did you get served this?
00:43:39.000 Okay.
00:43:39.320 It was like they were like, do you sleep like this?
00:43:42.900 I do.
00:43:43.600 Is that a problem?
00:43:44.420 They're like, that's trauma.
00:43:46.140 Okay. 1.00
00:43:46.500 Oh, shit. 1.00
00:43:48.020 I know. 0.99
00:43:48.440 I know it's like so is everything right but it's like they're like you can't really relax like jump
00:43:53.060 you're ready to spring
00:43:55.340 they're like you're ready
00:44:01.340 the idea that now
00:44:20.740 now i podcast like this
00:44:23.920 i make money
00:44:29.040 I can't believe that's really funny
00:44:32.940 By the way 0.99
00:44:35.520 You're a full
00:44:37.880 You're a toddler
00:44:38.640 But that really is funny
00:44:41.320 Sleeping like that because I do do it
00:44:42.940 Ready to spring
00:44:44.320 Ready to the predators coming
00:44:46.580 So you can like a frog leap away
00:44:49.080 Some of the springs are bent
00:44:56.400 they're in the coil the muscles are in the coil position uh but yeah it's like it's like that
00:45:03.320 what else is it it's um well i sleep like this sometimes yeah but that's not this actually on
00:45:08.140 your back well yeah for the mausoleum arms cross sometimes which really does feel good to me
00:45:13.540 oh i tried i tried did i try that last night and but then my it went to the point of my eyes 0.70
00:45:21.020 hurting doing the thing oh my god so i've been doing it and it fucking works for me i did it 0.69
00:45:24.880 of the night it almost made me nauseous like it felt weird how how long i was like no kind yeah 0.77
00:45:30.740 kind of it kind of uncomfortable yeah it kind of has that yeah it's right left down round and
00:45:38.580 around don't go too fast though it's up down right left right and then in a circle up right
00:45:44.380 and then you cross your eyes yeah wait it's only one circle i thought it was clockwise
00:45:49.300 counterclockwise. I heard one circle, but who knows?
00:45:52.220 Maybe it's both.
00:45:54.680 I was just thinking
00:45:55.280 if strictly through the answer of magic,
00:45:57.660 magic of consciousness,
00:46:00.240 we were to
00:46:01.300 create our own
00:46:03.040 arbitrary set of
00:46:05.180 movements
00:46:05.840 and get people doing it while going to sleep
00:46:09.740 to connect with the group.
00:46:12.680 I don't remember.
00:46:13.780 You didn't listen to telepathy tapes
00:46:15.580 because you were a debunker?
00:46:17.200 Well, I don't remember.
00:46:20.080 Did you listen to it?
00:46:21.060 How dare you?
00:46:22.800 No, remember, I was frustrated because, well, first of all, I started to,
00:46:28.180 and then I was reading a Reddit about it before I started,
00:46:30.980 and I got frustrated because I said, listen, and I'm like,
00:46:34.200 they're going to come for, like, this is, I'm like, this is,
00:46:37.840 I completely believe it's real, and I'm frustrated that it really seemed like,
00:46:43.460 I'm hearing this sort of, I'm hearing this, like,
00:46:45.400 And so I brought along my, you know, like my camera guy who's really skeptical.
00:46:51.700 Like, and I'm like, you're making the effort to document this.
00:46:56.120 Okay.
00:46:57.440 And you're like not bringing in even a single person other than your skeptical friend to maybe put in place certain things that would make it really like demonstrate it.
00:47:10.840 Yeah, yeah.
00:47:11.480 Okay.
00:47:11.900 Great.
00:47:12.040 You got to keep going, Jacqueline, because Jacqueline, you're going to be weeping.
00:47:15.400 When you get to episode nine, you're going to be weeping.
00:47:18.320 Yeah.
00:47:20.020 No, it's just, I want it.
00:47:21.640 I believe it.
00:47:22.400 I was reading, like, accounts.
00:47:23.780 Like, it was just moving really slow, and I was frustrated and hearing it secondhand, and I just wanted the videos, and I don't know.
00:47:28.420 So it was like, maybe I'll push through, but I was hungry.
00:47:32.240 Yeah, well, I made a reference to the, that's what, yeah.
00:47:37.720 I said the hill.
00:47:38.800 We'll meet on the hill.
00:47:39.980 That's a telepathy tapes reference.
00:47:42.820 Oh.
00:47:43.340 Well.
00:47:43.660 I was going to say pushing the astral realm on the audience members, but I don't want to get too into it.
00:48:00.380 Oh, Jacqueline, speaking of Product Corner, an eyebrow item that I purchased and a certain eyebrow product that you referenced, I purchased it and I'm liking it.
00:48:12.120 Oh, yeah?
00:48:12.740 I think I already talked about this on last week's episode, the prequel.
00:48:15.720 It's serious, right?
00:48:17.940 Yeah.
00:48:18.960 I'm obsessed.
00:48:19.680 Oh, yeah.
00:48:20.160 I'm obsessed.
00:48:20.900 You did.
00:48:22.580 I'm thinking that for Product Corner today, I can tell you about the five most recommended cameras for vloggers.
00:48:32.400 Hey.
00:48:34.340 All right.
00:48:35.020 Sell us on your Product Corner because I got to think.
00:48:37.400 I've got a couple makeup items that I've really been enjoying for the eyes.
00:48:40.780 I have a new mascara that I'm enjoying.
00:48:43.140 We all know how I've been really obsessed with the tubing mascara.
00:48:45.700 Now I have a more daytime, casual look mascara.
00:48:49.200 The tubing mascara, I'm realizing, really is for stage, things like that.
00:48:53.080 Wow.
00:48:54.060 And I've got a makeup brand I've never used before.
00:48:59.680 And I have to say I'm enjoying some of the items.
00:49:02.640 Really?
00:49:03.760 Someone was going to send us something.
00:49:05.660 Well, that's the brand.
00:49:06.420 I haven't gotten through that.
00:49:06.820 I'd be curious if you have received from them yet.
00:49:09.600 All right.
00:49:09.780 We'll talk about the product corner.
00:49:10.780 because I've got to give them my requests.
00:49:13.700 I mean, I don't think they're going to ship to Scotland.
00:49:15.060 You might have to wait until you're back on American soil.
00:49:18.920 Yeah.
00:49:19.420 Okay, well, with that, love ya.
00:49:21.360 Love ya.
00:49:22.100 And, you know, thanks, folks.
00:49:23.360 Look, I know that, you know, I'm stomach on the floor on a blanket like a toddler.
00:49:30.500 And I'm diminished.
00:49:31.520 I've been diminished for years.
00:49:32.420 Please do me tell me time.
00:49:33.340 Okay.
00:49:34.120 But that's part of the journalism here.
00:49:37.560 All right.
00:49:38.220 I'll see you in Product Corner.
00:49:39.440 Okay.
00:49:40.780 Love you.
00:49:42.000 Love you.