Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - January 06, 2025


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Berlant & Novak - The New Podcast from Poog's Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak Shadow Desires

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00:00:18.900 Two best friends, both alike in dignity.
00:00:21.520 Nurturing phantoms and courting the muse. 1.00
00:00:23.800 The hag divines when something must die. 1.00
00:00:26.140 Yes, that was poog. 0.99
00:00:27.240 But this is huge. 1.00
00:00:28.680 The ego loves to seek, but never to find.
00:00:31.640 It was Berlant and Novak the whole time.
00:00:38.680 Are we in?
00:00:39.920 We're in.
00:00:40.480 No, we're not in.
00:00:41.940 Oh, we're in.
00:00:43.080 We are?
00:00:43.660 Yeah.
00:00:44.160 We're recording.
00:00:45.140 The episode has begun.
00:00:46.420 Well, I have an announcement.
00:00:47.920 I want to, listen, I just want to come in hard and hot and say,
00:00:52.040 Christmas time is here.
00:00:55.600 You know, I see what I'm warming up for.
00:00:56.960 No, no, no, no, no.
00:00:58.040 What's that?
00:00:58.680 oh everybody everybody's waiting for the man with the back i heard it in cvs time in target i
00:01:05.220 still never heard it in the wild i something has taken hold i've never felt the need for
00:01:11.520 it's like christmas more than you do now i'm regressing it's but it's helpful because now
00:01:16.080 i'm a woman i'm no longer a child okay so i'm experiencing christmas through the lens of being
00:01:19.960 a woman and so wow yeah by the way i've been thinking about finally becoming a woman finally
00:01:25.880 again actually oh my god it's a huge huge woman became a woman who okay first of all christmas
00:01:31.100 with the eyes of a woman it's happening it's happening to me live it's happening to me right 0.75
00:01:34.120 now okay second of all i was on a job this week and a makeup artist gorgeous gay man shaved my
00:01:44.520 mustache oh yeah offered to shave it i was off a red eye 8 a.m first i felt pain i felt shame
00:01:53.940 by the way mustache I have to say I really it's not strong I just have like some of the baby hairs
00:01:58.320 but it's really not yeah that pronounced but I for whatever reason here I am and I go yeah sure 0.97
00:02:03.660 at first my instinct was no don't shave me and then I go shave it bitch I go yeah we were all 0.90
00:02:10.080 told to be afraid with the little things with the little probably I immediately texted you 0.99
00:02:14.080 dermaplane-ish with the dermaplane I go yeah you texted me is it gonna girl back spike you one of
00:02:18.200 the greatest sort of is it a myth is it not a myth questions well of course because I was humiliated
00:02:23.840 in high school once in desperation i was like i had a razor you know let's say and i was like i was
00:02:28.300 like like this like i was oh yeah and then i remember like being scolded i was thinking this 0.95
00:02:34.360 yesterday this it must oh because your text it was like like a fucking nerd being like i'm calling 0.96
00:02:41.980 him nerd because he said this he was he's like it looks like you shaved it and it's growing back in 0.97
00:02:46.440 it's like and i like i was like i went with which i never do strict denial sheer denial of course i
00:02:51.800 go no i didn't you know yeah and and i was thinking about that yesterday as you told this thing i was
00:02:58.400 just like you look gorgeous okay but he shaved now yeah you look beautiful right now he shaved 0.97
00:03:03.240 my mustache i have a lot to talk about bum bum bum and i go great who fucking and now so now 0.98
00:03:09.080 my mustache is shaved yeah and i'm a woman experiencing christmas yeah i'm maniacally 0.98
00:03:13.640 i'm on of course john darien the the christmas my christmas mecca that's the holy land of yeah
00:03:19.660 john darian new york shout out and the website's incredible and they do you know they have the
00:03:24.160 most beautiful christmas ornaments in culture now okay but i know that you love john darian
00:03:30.220 okay have you actually identified that they have the best christmas ornaments in culture
00:03:34.400 or you you've done you've looked elsewhere or are you just locked in this is like with lacy
00:03:40.220 lacy edges crispy edges okay yeah i'm locked in where you just believe that like you're like the
00:03:44.600 burger's really good there it has crispy edges crispy lacy edges okay i enjoyed a burger that
00:03:49.020 didn't have crispy edges this is what i'm saying okay and so and then you i feel like for three
00:03:52.180 years you were fixated okay on crispy edges okay but john darien almost to a point of where i'm
00:03:57.740 just wondering if you're like i'm a little here's the thing did you my mother mushrooms the whole
00:04:02.840 time john darien's ornaments like like ever been in bloomingdale's trimetry i'm sorry okay but
00:04:09.060 that's its own cultural experience will you go to the mall with me okay great so for a couple of
00:04:13.480 things. I have only purchased a couple ornaments from John Deere. Oh, you want to see ornaments?
00:04:19.560 Welcome to my mother. So I call my mother. I go, Christmas is coming. I'm so excited. I'm getting
00:04:23.960 the tree. I want to get the tree right after Thanksgiving. I'm going hard this year. And she
00:04:26.980 said, before you buy ornaments, please come to the house, come to the basement. And I was like,
00:04:31.020 oh, of course. Huge, beautiful ornaments. So I'm going to do that. I'm going to ask my mom
00:04:37.900 to send jewish okay my mom of course to send the her i'm gonna ask her for a steady stream
00:04:46.880 one ornament ornament at a time photos i'm gonna send them to you and i'm gonna i want to see oh
00:04:52.540 i'm gonna send you some i'm gonna discern your your your taste which will evolve but how how
00:04:57.340 by the way never forget i okay made you an ornament i know it's so sweet with our photo
00:05:06.500 booth photos and i have it i have it tucked away it'll go on the it'll go on the tree i actually
00:05:11.400 had to mow it privately just now before we were rolling i was looking at christmas tree toppers
00:05:15.160 because i don't have one right and i have so much to say i have a huge idea about the tree i want to
00:05:19.420 do this year okay it's huge really the tree's not huge but the content is huge it's not huge
00:05:24.480 it's simple ultimately i think you're saying it's huge again i'm sorry but i think it's because 0.58
00:05:28.900 fucking fly here are you afraid of it locking do you have any doubt about your idea is there 0.75
00:05:34.180 Any fear of commitment to the idea? 0.99
00:05:35.520 Yes.
00:05:36.000 There's a fear that I won't be able to execute it properly.
00:05:37.880 Oh, well, that I wouldn't worry about.
00:05:39.820 You can force execute it. 0.51
00:05:40.780 That's the fear.
00:05:41.180 But you don't have any fear of choosing, like, this year it's going to be a white tree and then regret?
00:05:47.040 No, I have it solid in my mind what I want, but here's the thing.
00:05:50.900 I'm like, should I guess?
00:05:51.800 But I just had a private revelation where I was looking at different Christmas tree toppers, the star, and I was screenshotting.
00:05:58.620 And I'm like, okay, have it down to the four that I want.
00:06:00.580 And I was going to outsource.
00:06:01.520 I was going to text my partner.
00:06:03.180 You, what do you think?
00:06:04.100 And I went, Kate, Christmas has a woman.
00:06:06.460 You pick the tree topper privately. 0.99
00:06:08.740 You make the decision you commit.
00:06:10.120 So I decided to do that.
00:06:11.000 I just saw a whole home.
00:06:11.760 So now when you come to my house and you see the tree, know that I picked the topper.
00:06:17.520 See, no, no, no.
00:06:19.600 This cannot be overstated, okay?
00:06:21.860 When you just said the thing about, no, I'm the woman, okay?
00:06:24.220 I'm a woman at Christmas, okay?
00:06:27.580 I choose the topper, right?
00:06:29.060 i'm going i saw a whole house like like a pure it populated behind you like it was like a spell
00:06:37.640 okay and i don't it's not about the house itself or your house like i'm picturing something
00:06:42.100 it's like that feeling of it's a totally different thing it's it's it's i mean it's like the one
00:06:51.580 woman privately making choices for the family in this way it is very and making sort of like
00:06:59.220 elegant choices for the family like my this for my family not checking with everyone just knowing
00:07:04.340 just knowing just trusting just knowing trusting one's own taste and then executing it in the home
00:07:09.720 are you kidding unimaginable no no it's changing by the way i was gonna ask you this like huge
00:07:15.720 question like do you have the courage for example to buy a wired sconce because i can't imagine a
00:07:22.760 wired sconce a sconce lamp right oh that's plugged into the wall that is actually wired in the wall
00:07:28.220 versus you know because now they're hiring electrician well yeah it demands so this but 0.92
00:07:32.400 also to to break into your wall and go this is the sconce bitch yeah and by the way and now you 0.97
00:07:37.340 can't hang a huge you can't well that's yeah now because i've been a huge painting there or whatever 0.89
00:07:41.620 I've been going through this, so if I need to bring this up, because I have sconce.
00:07:45.160 Why I assume you were.
00:07:45.700 Well, because there's two sconce areas.
00:07:47.080 I go, I want sconces.
00:07:48.860 I go, we'll do a plug-in for now.
00:07:50.760 I go, plug-in sconce, what is this?
00:07:52.840 But maybe.
00:07:53.640 Well, I think we've talked about this in the past.
00:07:56.300 And you're a pro.
00:07:56.920 And I think I've—
00:07:58.080 Do you have to rip a wall out?
00:07:59.980 Otherwise.
00:08:00.360 How much work?
00:08:01.140 Take down a— 1.00
00:08:01.680 God damn. 0.99
00:08:02.420 I was thinking about the word Joyce has been appearing a lot. 0.99
00:08:06.380 Huh?
00:08:07.320 Joyce?
00:08:07.960 My accountant?
00:08:08.420 The last few days.
00:08:08.860 i wasn't even including that one okay but i was thinking about it there like someone was talking
00:08:15.960 about walls and building walls and joyce joyce you know the joyce is like a beam or something
00:08:20.300 i don't know this at all spell it j-o-y-c-e yeah yeah there's a proud tradition and they've gotten
00:08:27.540 better at it because they understand most people rent okay it's a whole it's a dawn of a new day
00:08:31.760 yeah people rent okay plug it in and as you know there's the other big principle but yeah plug it
00:08:36.480 in and now they do it you know they're gorgeous a gorgeous i mean some of them are not the
00:08:41.100 aesthetic you're looking for specifically but they're all out there okay and it's and the plug
00:08:45.200 okay it goes it it hangs yeah elegantly i mean it could be hidden behind the actual right but a
00:08:52.900 wire can be beautiful that depends on what kind yeah you know woven wire or not okay there's a
00:09:00.580 kind of effortlessness there's a kind of modern we keep it moving yeah that's yeah that's hung there
00:09:06.200 I was thinking, why don't places have sort of like built into the walls, almost like a place where your sconce goes and you get to choose your sconce without an electrician.
00:09:19.540 Much like there's a plug on a wall.
00:09:21.280 A hundred percent.
00:09:22.180 There was a sconce plug in every rental.
00:09:23.960 Pop it off.
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00:10:33.960 to fatty15.com slash hags and using code hags at checkout. I've been going to Ikea near daily. Okay,
00:10:46.880 I've been doing this. It wasn't your deal. I guess I've been twice. But every time I thought I was
00:10:51.500 going again the next day, maybe three times I worked in I did work in the parking lot on my
00:10:55.840 computer yeah no i know it's your new office oh yeah so no but the christmas home the light
00:11:00.200 section okay i had a huge i i had a well a couple revelations and i can't you ready yeah and you
00:11:08.020 making notes because i want to get back to the i want to get back to the ornaments will you
00:11:10.680 remember the question yeah because wait all right down because i was going to write down
00:11:14.440 something what was i just starting to talk about oh lights i have a huge and all right give it to
00:11:20.540 me now i'll get the lights you'll relate to this you'll relate to this so i'm having the urge 0.86
00:11:24.620 i'm having this shit i did it again stuff in the house wanting to want to entertain the home 0.99
00:11:29.940 yeah okay it's not ready right well that's not go fuck it just have yeah have people who cares 0.99
00:11:34.840 and this is a constant issue right temporary the temporary solution versus the more expensive 0.94
00:11:41.960 more expensive thing and then also it's the now versus then where i'm like just now i was thinking 0.74
00:11:45.900 okay do i just go fuck it what can i accomplish okay like for example yeah we're being out of 0.98
00:11:51.860 sink okay don't you have like a goddamn farmhouse sink i'm talking about a bathroom oh okay let me 1.00
00:12:03.000 guess what the guest bathroom the powder room the powder you're trying to show off for the party 0.99
00:12:08.200 goers you think the sink is not sufficient why this thing's fine but no but i go i go i don't
00:12:14.580 like the sink i go could i so i get demolition right yeah home improvement shows i go i just
00:12:20.740 say, well, it's just that things are expensive.
00:12:22.560 I mean, if you took a hammer. I can't
00:12:24.620 take the hammer. But I'm just saying, what if
00:12:26.600 I went, guess what? New sink,
00:12:28.620 boom, in two weeks. Could I make
00:12:30.580 it happen? Of course. Fuck the sink. I actually want,
00:12:32.760 let's cut that. Fuck the sink. The story 1.00
00:12:34.780 of the sink you want cut? Yeah, all of it. Why? I don't
00:12:36.620 know. You're embarrassed.
00:12:38.320 I shamed you. You love to be
00:12:40.720 shamed by me. It's true, but listen,
00:12:42.620 but no, but, oh, huge question,
00:12:44.500 huge question, huge question. Shoes off home
00:12:46.460 versus shoes on home, right? If you're entertaining
00:12:48.740 at a party, obviously shoes are on. 0.99
00:12:50.740 Are we fucking crazy? 0.99
00:12:51.980 Okay. 1.00
00:12:52.260 Shoes are on.
00:12:52.980 If you're entertaining.
00:12:53.800 Yeah.
00:12:54.120 Yeah.
00:12:54.520 Completely for a party.
00:12:55.280 Okay.
00:12:55.400 So shoes will be on.
00:12:56.920 Rug.
00:12:57.420 I've been wanting to get a new rug.
00:12:59.040 This is a huge crisis right now.
00:13:00.720 New rug, living room rug.
00:13:02.280 You don't get a new rug for a shoe party, but then the room's not tied together.
00:13:07.700 Do you get the rug to tie together the room?
00:13:10.700 Okay.
00:13:11.260 I have a couple of huge questions.
00:13:13.060 Or do you, you, that's the rug for the shoes.
00:13:15.600 And after people are there, do you know what I mean?
00:13:19.160 So what do I do?
00:13:19.640 Hold on.
00:13:19.880 What do I do?
00:13:20.120 help me this is huge all right you know this is huge all right hold on i have a couple ideas it's
00:13:23.260 all about now versus then it's all about you know what i mean i know well also yeah the fantasy the
00:13:27.180 win but hold on and then i'm at the party staring at the rug the whole time oh god don't want classic
00:13:31.160 yeah yeah and everyone will feel that no one's ever spilled they'll feel it and also what are we
00:13:37.100 what are we spilling right now cocktails what are we spilling yeah i don't know food
00:13:40.060 shoe detritus what can't be clean well people are gonna trample there we go ever heard of cleaning
00:13:44.460 okay oh my god wait no no i always forget the cleaning i always forget yeah i know just that
00:13:50.260 that's an option yeah the stain because like we're like is it a white rug no well that's the
00:13:53.840 other thing is it a white rug in a movie where the plot is that it's a 90 million dollar rug
00:13:58.260 right no this is this is helping me because it's also and you know it's about me it's a thing of
00:14:02.300 saving things like like i'm like no no i'm gonna get the rug after so it's pristine and soft and 0.55
00:14:06.940 perfect that's no fucking cares by the way what happens next christmas exactly okay you can't 0.90
00:14:11.700 live on the rug that you live on your rug see i always reject don't save clothes don't save rugs 0.91
00:14:18.820 yeah even the even the i'll start the workout after this thing finishes i know it's always
00:14:22.960 gonna be something well that's what you did to me just the other week i go next week i'm
00:14:25.780 next week i'm really excited to talk about rugs i'm not done okay great well the rugs are because
00:14:29.900 we're just getting to it i have another rug issue yes okay big area rug okay here's this nordic
00:14:36.800 knots right nice company whatever or he'll look here's a company that's like a rip-off half off
00:14:42.080 do you go for the half off or do you go for the because here's what i go let's go with the cheaper
00:14:48.520 one right and then always of course if i hate it switch over to the fancy one so i've lost money
00:14:53.460 see i'm saying no just spend the full classic and so that's also temporary versus what are you
00:14:57.640 gonna well okay if it arrives and it looks cheap which also first of all who cares but let's just
00:15:04.120 say yeah right i mean not that i would have the courage you know not that i would have the
00:15:08.460 you know stamina to do this but you could send it back you'll know that instantly
00:15:13.640 i get roll it up also google to see if someone has bought that rug and takes like you're not
00:15:20.180 on amazon here right or oh no or are you what where's the half off point is there's some other
00:15:24.780 company i'm forgetting rugs are google around to see i bought the blah blah blah blah and it's
00:15:30.000 Just as good as that.
00:15:31.200 But I mean to see a photo.
00:15:33.000 Okay.
00:15:33.440 No, no.
00:15:34.240 See, this comes on an essential thing.
00:15:35.340 A person's photo in their apartment.
00:15:37.480 That tells you so much.
00:15:39.360 Wait, hold on.
00:15:39.800 Decision paralysis.
00:15:40.480 Wait, I still haven't really.
00:15:41.740 I mean, I know I've freed you, but I still haven't given you.
00:15:43.540 What?
00:15:44.060 Okay, my breakdown of the concept for the party.
00:15:47.020 I'm getting the new rug.
00:15:48.140 So that's official.
00:15:48.340 And you're getting the nice one.
00:15:49.180 You're done.
00:15:49.660 No, I don't know about that.
00:15:50.660 No, no, no.
00:15:51.160 Because I'm also going, I go solid color.
00:15:52.920 I go print. 1.00
00:15:53.740 I'm not going Persian.
00:15:54.840 Here's the announcement.
00:15:55.640 I'm not going Persian.
00:15:56.800 I'm going solid color.
00:15:58.820 i'm leaning into something more i think i'm gonna go solid modern or i'm gonna go yeah
00:16:03.520 because you've you've you've locked in uncertainty nine times in the last minute
00:16:07.880 you've posed a series of questions oh you're sick you're saying brown what rug
00:16:12.900 hold on okay yeah you've locked in on nine certainties you've locked in on nine certainties
00:16:19.820 in the last three minutes you've posed questions to me answer them yourself okay and then and then
00:16:25.380 locked in on six answers you were then i still need you holding my hand the whole time you're
00:16:29.440 riding high on decisiveness yeah yeah yeah okay it's a drug and i'm left and i'm left in the dust
00:16:35.420 because you know i'm trying to i'm philosophizing about all the things now i want to talk about
00:16:40.440 these things you pose them to me okay let's go okay but you're done no i'm not done because you
00:16:43.420 got your so i'm going a couple ideas one okay well first i have i have a question the sink okay okay
00:16:50.420 i guessed about okay i guessed powder room sink okay because you're thinking about you know
00:16:57.480 entertaining guests you're worried about guests right i guess over for dinner that's the one
00:17:02.140 they're using there's a little half bath it's very tiny right it's a little tiny half bath
00:17:05.280 it's basically just sink in a toilet powder room yeah sink in a toilet a powder room the current
00:17:09.000 sink is very big and it's not okay but i'm like how i think it's big that's that's like it's a
00:17:18.140 huge unit with a drawer they're like i would prefer something sleeker like a like a more you
00:17:23.400 know like a vintage pedestal well i got news for you your guests might appreciate the drawer 0.70
00:17:31.800 no no the drawer is storage what are the guests gonna do in the drawer tampons other shit like 1.00
00:17:38.940 that okay people are in the bathroom they're fucking losing their mind how about a goddamn 0.99
00:17:43.020 plunger okay how about a i was plunging a toilet in my dream last night and it wasn't my toilet to 0.99
00:17:48.720 plunge oh my god i think i just learned about this thing this term because it wasn't my toilet
00:17:56.860 to plunge doesn't is different than it wasn't my toilet right or i was at someone's house or
00:18:01.520 something right i was plunging a toilet it wasn't my toilet to plunge it's obviously and it's this
00:18:06.260 thing i just read about it's really amazing that was last night where like if you say poog is dead
00:18:11.680 long live poog. Okay. That's a, and I forget what the term term is. It's like a
00:18:19.240 linguistic literary thing. There's a term for it when like the word comes at the end. It's at the
00:18:26.000 beginning. It's like the poetry of that. Yeah. It's like animonides. You know what I mean? It's
00:18:31.220 like, but that had that quality, but I was plunging a toilet. It wasn't my toilet to plunge.
00:18:39.500 oh i think it is that thing right this is what the poetry group but obviously i mean you see
00:18:43.020 what's what you've just articulated right like like you've articulated you've articulated an
00:18:48.940 emotional truth okay it wasn't my toilet to plunge it's not the same as i was at someone's house and
00:18:53.720 i had to get that thing yeah yeah it's really interesting
00:18:58.560 now was it someone specific or was it just abstractly not my toilet just abstractly i'm 0.99
00:19:06.620 going in there i'm plunging i go why am i plunging this this isn't my shit this is my toilet it's 0.99
00:19:12.360 interesting and i'm experiencing shame because i go oh they think that i'm plunging this toilet 0.99
00:19:16.580 because i fucking backed up this toilet i didn't and i'm plunging it by the way really for a toilet 0.77
00:19:21.680 to back up literally the tech is not there if that's happening it's crazy if this thing 0.98
00:19:28.420 the entire job as a thing is to get shit out of the house i know and the fact that it anything
00:19:36.840 that it can ever clog because someone really went for it shouldn't you be free i mean it's like 0.91
00:19:43.380 the plunge toilet two things also by the way plunger into a backed up toilet by which let's 0.98
00:19:49.480 get real toilet full of shit floating right my mom has a snake she can snake a toilet she goes 0.99
00:19:55.060 but isn't it going isn't it going into shit water yeah of course so like what what's the 0.99
00:20:01.740 what's the cleaning process immediately after i know is it this look lip lip of the thing it's 0.90
00:20:07.960 hanging in the toilet shake it off i know it's in there like that right it's it's it's between the
00:20:14.020 bowl and the lid okay with it hanging dripping right yeah now is it bleach bleach is a bleach i
00:20:20.600 know into i know pour bleach into the toilet by the way can can it go down there please yeah
00:20:25.200 all right i mean obviously some can wait i have a personality area right two ideas okay one punch
00:20:31.200 party rug for lunch toilet really party rug party rug you encourage spilling wait i have a no wait
00:20:36.000 i'm not even joking i have a toilet bring in a half price nordic
00:20:39.620 jacqueline yeah i have a i think you'll find this this is a plunger story i think it's a
00:20:45.920 personality distinction it's also between myself and my partner listen to this okay here we go
00:20:50.200 imagine this new york city starvation wait actually waiting to eat via carota there's a
00:20:55.640 two boots starvation like you wouldn't believe they go it's gonna be an hour oh no it was for
00:21:00.880 esoti i was waiting for esoti showed up the point is i want to cry so hungry wait an hour i can't i
00:21:07.760 can't wait an hour we decide let's go to two boots get a slice as an appetizer okay at two boots this
00:21:13.840 is unnecessary information the point is sitting down you have to walk there in your mind because
00:21:17.540 i obviously do everyone who listens to me talk knows that i have to journey in my mind you walked
00:21:22.120 from me so it needs to two boots in your mind i don't mean i took the whole path i mean you're
00:21:25.900 like this isn't relevant to the story oh yeah to follow your way there anyway go on i get up to pee
00:21:32.480 come back they get up to pee come back they're kind can i have hand sanitizer sure what happened 1.00
00:21:40.400 so you no no there was someone in between us so naomi name reveal stunning by the way oh my god 0.99
00:21:50.180 yeah waiting in line woman comes out of the bathroom they go in toilet not shit but piss 1.00
00:21:59.120 is rising at a rapid rate toilet water is rising they grab the plunger at this pizza restaurant 1.00
00:22:05.800 I start plunging.
00:22:07.940 American heroism.
00:22:08.340 They fix it, it goes down, they pee, they come out, I had to plunge the toilet.
00:22:12.240 And I start going, I go, no, no, no, no, no.
00:22:14.180 And I go, you do not need, like, here's what I would have done.
00:22:17.820 Talk about not your toilet to plunge.
00:22:19.880 I walk in, I see.
00:22:21.300 Right, you run out and you run to the hostess stand.
00:22:23.400 No, no, no, I walk in, I see, right, I go, oh, you guys, you guys, I go, sorry, not my problem. 0.99
00:22:27.880 I'm not plunging the fucking toilet at the pizza restaurant. 0.97
00:22:30.760 Oh, wait, first of all, I somehow forgot I made this all happening at eSody, okay? 0.98
00:22:34.820 i don't know it's a two boots any boots this is two boots like this is it's even oh if it were
00:22:39.180 yeah two boots is like almost like i'm picturing a different yeah okay
00:22:45.400 by the way like like head out the back winking at the yeah winking at the provider
00:22:56.660 okay so wait wait do you know there's a thing by the way about like
00:23:01.780 everyone's using the plunger wrong or whatever.
00:23:04.400 Oh, yeah, there he's going.
00:23:05.020 It's supposed to be like you're resuscitating someone's chest.
00:23:08.720 Yeah.
00:23:09.560 Cool.
00:23:10.680 Cool.
00:23:10.940 What about CPR?
00:23:12.540 Hey, Bill, can you take over?
00:23:14.200 The whole taking over of CPR?
00:23:16.760 Yeah, because you've got to really go for it.
00:23:18.420 What?
00:23:18.620 Someone told me.
00:23:19.120 You didn't know it breaks the ribs?
00:23:20.720 And you didn't know?
00:23:21.340 Someone told me you've got to break the ribs or else you're not doing it right.
00:23:23.480 I go, Jesus.
00:23:23.900 Well, that is one of those.
00:23:24.980 That's the power of a phrase, or you're not doing it right.
00:23:27.660 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:23:28.000 It's like, give me anything up until it.
00:23:30.680 wait so but don't you find that interesting right but because they come out and I almost
00:23:34.940 I was of course not mad at them but I was almost like I was like you did not have to do that why
00:23:38.920 well it wasn't because um you weren't happy about like the cleanliness no no I just was like it made
00:23:44.260 me sad to think of them plunging until they didn't have to plunge yeah instead of and I was also
00:23:50.160 overwhelmed I was like wow you know what would you do I'm running out it depends if it's falling
00:23:55.740 on my like if it's coming from my feet it was that far away oh it's rising it's an emergency
00:24:01.300 no it is immediately door closed no uh we got problem both yeah yeah exactly so they i mean
00:24:11.740 it's just and i'm like because for a thousand reasons i just that's i find that that's a
00:24:17.500 shocking i mean i would be concerned like for the future like i would be like we need to sit down
00:24:22.260 talk like if we're on a boat and shit's going down okay save me save me save like totally you
00:24:29.240 know yeah if we're on the titanic yeah we go yeah remember i told you about telling uh uh chris like
00:24:38.480 when we were like scared in movie theaters like i get freaked out when someone comes in the
00:24:43.160 backpack oh of course whatever and i was just like i'll sit here and enjoy this movie whatever
00:24:47.920 as long as I know that if I say go, you go.
00:24:52.880 So it became, when I say go, you go.
00:24:55.580 There's going to be no question.
00:24:57.000 Have you ever said go?
00:24:57.440 No, but I have started with, like, with other things.
00:25:00.760 I fixated.
00:25:02.160 On what, a backpack?
00:25:02.880 On a person at the, yeah, or, like, interesting, he came in late.
00:25:06.520 And I go, are they really going to shoot up the 8 p.m.?
00:25:09.980 Well, right, looking for meaning, like.
00:25:12.340 Because, like, we were at Twisters.
00:25:13.380 I was like, what are they going to do, shoot up it?
00:25:14.700 Look at how small this theater is.
00:25:15.800 You mean it was with me?
00:25:16.640 Yeah.
00:25:17.540 And you never said anything?
00:25:18.180 Every time I go into a movie theater, I think about it.
00:25:19.680 I'm really, I'm really, I feel like I'm really leaning into blinking this one.
00:25:23.180 I can't blink the one.
00:25:23.860 Got to even it up.
00:25:24.860 What?
00:25:26.080 Wait.
00:25:27.220 One is easier for you.
00:25:28.340 So much to talk about.
00:25:29.100 Okay, wait.
00:25:29.360 Which one's easier?
00:25:30.580 Right.
00:25:30.980 I never go left.
00:25:31.980 Really quick about the dream.
00:25:33.360 I just want to say.
00:25:34.280 Oh, yeah.
00:25:34.600 Because the plunging of the toilet, not my toilet to plunge, as we know from Jung, symbolism,
00:25:40.980 images, dreams.
00:25:42.260 This is where we're headed.
00:25:42.400 Because I have a lot of repeated things in my dreams, right?
00:25:45.060 Oh, well, my Christmas dreams.
00:25:46.020 I can seriously, but not literally, right?
00:25:50.040 It's like if a certain person's repeating in your dream, it's like, okay, I take that
00:25:54.600 seriously, but not literally, of course.
00:25:57.100 What are you writing down?
00:25:58.220 I see Christmas.
00:25:59.640 Christmas.
00:26:00.540 So, you know, my recurring dream throughout the year.
00:26:03.460 My recurring dream.
00:26:04.260 Look, I will give you peace.
00:26:05.540 Look.
00:26:07.040 What's right there?
00:26:07.680 Oh, my God.
00:26:07.900 It's happening again.
00:26:08.780 Someone's going off my thumb.
00:26:10.340 Oh, no.
00:26:10.920 Oh, it's trembling? 1.00
00:26:11.840 Fuck. 1.00
00:26:12.600 Okay. 1.00
00:26:12.840 Today, I was going like this, trying to text.
00:26:14.500 And I go, why does it feel a little...
00:26:16.500 And, of course, I go immediately, 0.99
00:26:17.620 oh, it's the beginning of a horrific fucking degenerative disease 1.00
00:26:20.180 and here I fucking go. 1.00
00:26:21.900 I know. 0.99
00:26:22.640 I've been dealing with that.
00:26:23.900 But then I go, couldn't it just be...
00:26:25.580 Yes.
00:26:26.600 ...texting and also I was lifting a heavy table last night?
00:26:28.840 Wait, I thought I came up with a theory about something.
00:26:32.260 I'm just remembering.
00:26:33.820 That was, by the way, that was so amazing.
00:26:35.040 That was you being real.
00:26:36.180 That's something if it were in a script,
00:26:37.320 if you had to act that, it would be impossible to act it well.
00:26:39.260 Yes?
00:26:39.640 And you just...
00:26:40.040 No, no.
00:26:40.500 I was thinking about that.
00:26:41.920 Or what did you say?
00:26:42.560 Oh, no, yeah.
00:26:42.940 I thought I had a theory.
00:26:43.560 That was like...
00:26:44.500 in a movie but it was real okay this is one of my we're gonna talk about this for nine hours okay 0.99
00:26:49.800 well on tv shows when people are actually upset and you know fuck put a camera on them the camera 0.61
00:26:53.800 is on them yeah god this is good acting but it's real is that what we're talking about well sort of
00:26:57.960 okay so so i just did uh i forgot what i said already but you said you said you said i had a
00:27:03.880 theory about this i think i had a theory about this right okay really hard when you yeah when
00:27:09.560 you accidentally when you authentically say something in the like most as written kind of
00:27:17.120 like cliche performance of it authentically and it comes out like that yeah versus nudge nudge
00:27:23.400 wink wink i had a theory about this or whatever right okay so like like like one of the hardest
00:27:29.420 things like surprise surprise no no no that i can do oh surprise getting blah blah blah
00:27:39.560 no okay sorry let her talk Kate okay well I don't mind I don't mind that but what um
00:27:45.580 acting surprised oh yeah because exactly okay because yeah to do it in a like drama
00:27:55.640 did because I feel like like have you had to scream with surprise okay because it's I've I've
00:28:03.540 I've I've struggled I had to fake a surprise reaction to a pregnancy
00:28:07.900 see in life i think it's easy oh you're talking about acting yes oh i'm talking about like like
00:28:16.140 showbiz i'm talking about okay they're gonna come in act there were a couple things
00:28:21.820 surprise excitement and surprise scared surprise any of them like look like well like shot that's
00:28:28.020 really hard physical surprise okay as in they're behind you oh that that's really hard okay that's
00:28:32.860 what i'm talking about okay like okay now now but my point being that was pretty good thank you
00:28:38.740 my point being that real surprise is pretty cliche looking isn't that beautiful and let's
00:28:45.420 okay so so so you go the cliches are okay i mean now i tried to do a cliche one to to whatever
00:28:51.820 yeah but like like like yeah so you know that's comforting but i i'm always thinking and this was
00:29:02.140 a huge problem for me when i was at acting camp at seven was fear of overacting the fear of
00:29:07.420 overacting fear of overacting i mean this is my okay yeah it's and and also how dare you it's
00:29:12.680 not overacting it's real it's more real well also how dare you ever heard of artifice i mean
00:29:17.480 literally you you and me arguing for artifice is i like that actually imagine that on a tote bag
00:29:29.720 arguing for artifice that's nice or i heart i heart artifice
00:29:35.280 no i'm laughing because i i thought you were saying i heart radio okay oh yeah
00:29:42.060 um wait wait take me back take me back take me back wait because rugs no
00:29:48.100 you're still in rugs because you want that right you know what you're doing what you know how you
00:29:56.160 rock climb i know you do i think i don't rock climb what do you mean you have no rock climbing
00:30:03.700 experience not even a wall wouldn't go that far not even on a wall i actually did rock climbing
00:30:08.800 for a yahoo ad like wait 10 years ago by the way this has been happening again and i love it what
00:30:15.360 oh this yeah yeah yeah does this does this do anything for you i mean does this trigger anything
00:30:21.480 like for you it looks like you to me wait kind of this looks like you to me yeah yeah
00:30:25.840 okay wait wait hold on you so in rock climbing let's say you're going up the face of a mountain
00:30:32.760 and i don't know much okay but okay you go with a thing that happens spontaneously like ice pick
00:30:40.520 or something yeah okay but you're going up a rock now you're you're you have your harness let's say
00:30:45.520 okay you're not free solo okay you go up you get to a point where you clip in to a little thing
00:30:54.060 coming out of the oh yeah yeah crag yeah okay yeah okay i'm not sure exactly but the point is
00:30:59.960 and then and then you go up more and actually i think if you were like really doing it out
00:31:04.260 in the world i think you are you are sticking something in a rock okay and then essentially
00:31:10.880 clipping rolling your thing through it and then you climb up another 20 feet now and you lock in
00:31:18.100 again there so that every time okay okay we're not there yet okay so every time you're you lock
00:31:27.000 in the new height so that if you fall you only fall like a little bit right okay so you got to
00:31:31.480 go a little bit and then right instead of climbing all the way up and falling all the way yeah you
00:31:38.000 okay in our conversation fixate it no it's not that big okay fixate it on rugs is where you locked
00:31:45.940 in last so every time we go okay bring me back bring me back you keep falling down to the rugs
00:31:51.340 okay but i've got this there are new places man's discovery of of soot on a rock
00:32:00.020 changes everything wait what i have notation oh i know anyway so i'm going but the point is i made
00:32:07.520 a huge deal look look a rug i drew a rug and a couch yes we're not we're not gonna so that's
00:32:12.600 one of the safest things yeah it's safe so my ongoing christmas dream and i i i think it happens
00:32:18.040 throughout the year i need to start just marking it maybe in my hobonichi i'm gonna get a new one
00:32:23.640 by the way news from last year i i filled out about four pages of my hobonichi journal this
00:32:27.860 year four okay and i bought two because i was concerned that's what happened to me i got so
00:32:31.260 excited i bought a new calendar thing starts in december so all my memories of the last few weeks
00:32:36.920 have just gone well i guess they weren't that great i convinced myself they weren't worth
00:32:40.060 writing down because I because the notebook doesn't start till December oh I go I'll remember
00:32:49.120 it I go I'll remember it you could you could fold it in there I've thought about going into
00:32:55.100 paper and then folding it in yeah okay
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00:33:45.180 So my recurring dream, Christmas morning, and I've forgotten to get gifts for
00:33:52.960 either all or some of the family members okay that's it you get that a lot all the time so
00:33:59.780 much so that it's like year round it oh it's literally a year round and and because it's so
00:34:07.740 recurring there are these stores that exist in my dream world okay that i go to in this situation
00:34:12.800 regularly and you go back to the same store yes okay so there's this town of stores i have an
00:34:17.920 apartment that i return to three times now and in the gym i go oh my god i'm back in the
00:34:22.880 apartment. It's fucking amazing. Oh, right. 0.96
00:34:24.640 I have a dream. Yeah, I have something
00:34:26.580 like that in the west side of New York City, okay?
00:34:28.940 I believe there is another world.
00:34:30.880 Well, yes. Oh, yeah.
00:34:32.500 I mean, there are a few. Yeah, there's
00:34:34.560 a few. No, but I always forget.
00:34:36.500 Oh, and then my other recurring one is like, I still have
00:34:38.580 a grave. I tripped on a grave.
00:34:41.960 Where?
00:34:45.760 Is it that knee or
00:34:46.600 this knee? This knee.
00:34:48.600 Just barely.
00:34:50.540 See that little red spot?
00:34:52.880 i'm laughing at i'm pulling up your pant for that if they could see how small that mark was
00:35:02.240 it's very small but imagine that not cursed yeah of course and i said no assumption i said i'm
00:35:07.500 sorry was there something disrespectful about your tripping no because it was because i go
00:35:11.420 i can't be cursed and they because it was truly genuine it wasn't like i was doing you know i
00:35:16.000 mean i actually tripped on a grave right you weren't doing a no no i was i was shocked yeah
00:35:20.780 Now, when you say you tripped on a grave.
00:35:22.720 Headstone.
00:35:23.280 An unmarked grave.
00:35:24.300 Headstone.
00:35:25.000 A free standing one?
00:35:26.260 A 19-year-old soldier who died in World War II.
00:35:28.160 Oh, wait.
00:35:28.460 Were you in New York City?
00:35:29.500 No, this was in Pasadena last night.
00:35:32.340 Isn't that crazy?
00:35:32.960 In someone's property?
00:35:34.060 I mean, you don't have to give the details.
00:35:34.840 No, a cemetery.
00:35:35.060 A cemetery.
00:35:35.660 Why were you in a cemetery?
00:35:36.740 Shooting in a cemetery.
00:35:37.820 Oh, there we go.
00:35:38.740 Got it.
00:35:39.260 Love that.
00:35:39.760 Dark, dark.
00:35:40.580 That's your curse is the filming, if anything.
00:35:43.800 I mean, I'm just saying.
00:35:45.140 But the point is, they're going straight to the top with that, not you.
00:35:48.000 No, exactly.
00:35:48.620 Well, this, no, the cemetery, I go,
00:35:50.180 God, they're really just letting anyone in here, huh?
00:35:52.660 Filming away.
00:35:53.920 When there's other places that you go,
00:35:55.960 like, that they don't let you film in.
00:35:59.180 It's interesting.
00:36:01.280 Because.
00:36:02.640 We're still burying the day.
00:36:03.760 Imagine you're, like, when you are signing up,
00:36:06.480 when you're getting your plot, fine print,
00:36:08.820 we do filmings here.
00:36:10.780 Yeah.
00:36:11.500 Not saying that's necessarily a problem.
00:36:13.280 I might like it.
00:36:13.760 Your brain may or may not be tripped on.
00:36:14.680 I might like a little business happening above.
00:36:17.380 Yeah, totally.
00:36:18.040 Yeah, a little action.
00:36:19.520 It is kind of, I mean, I've always felt, yeah,
00:36:21.740 they should be integrated.
00:36:23.780 What?
00:36:24.980 The dead.
00:36:26.060 I get the dead, the dead bodies and the corpses.
00:36:27.960 You're in the subway, okay?
00:36:28.900 And you're just walking along a wall.
00:36:30.000 Oh, there's someone somewhere there.
00:36:31.300 Oh, that's lovely.
00:36:31.960 Everywhere.
00:36:32.160 That would be great.
00:36:32.920 That would be great.
00:36:33.220 We walk among the dead.
00:36:34.260 We jog through the cemetery.
00:36:38.360 The whole world's a graveyard, to quote someone.
00:36:40.300 Yeah.
00:36:40.900 I would cut you off with the trip on a grave thing, naturally.
00:36:44.180 Oh, then my...
00:36:44.800 I said there's another world, and that's what made me think of it, yeah.
00:36:47.800 Yeah, it's weird out there.
00:36:49.120 It's a lot here.
00:36:49.700 I wrote the real.
00:36:50.360 Oh, wait, but acting, but acting surprise.
00:36:52.320 I haven't even gotten into my little baby notebook.
00:36:54.340 Really?
00:36:55.100 I have a new shoe.
00:36:55.600 Wait, let me just cover what we discussed.
00:36:56.860 Okay.
00:36:57.340 Okay.
00:36:58.100 Like, okay.
00:36:59.420 We've just, I wrote down yearning for coffee.
00:37:01.300 That just happens to be true.
00:37:02.580 Let's do a little review.
00:37:03.880 Okay.
00:37:04.400 I actually think there's more here to all of this.
00:37:07.560 Okay.
00:37:08.940 Becoming a woman.
00:37:10.240 I have a lot to say on this. 1.00
00:37:11.860 Because I saw a woman in a skirt and my life changed. 1.00
00:37:13.960 Okay. 1.00
00:37:15.180 A long skirt.
00:37:16.200 not I bought a long skirt a few weeks ago and it's changed my life by the way if you saw my
00:37:21.300 high school fashion oh yeah because it was pre-depression no I'm sure it's now it's a
00:37:25.640 different person I know you were the hottest girl in school somebody who who I met someone
00:37:30.180 who knew Jacqueline no said you were the hottest girl in school no no no yeah I'm I'm I don't know
00:37:43.240 I'm gonna fact check that later on you
00:37:45.880 okay who said it why they thought that 0.83
00:37:47.640 I just bought a long denim skirt
00:37:50.020 yeah a long skirt and then I have like
00:37:52.020 yeah okay and then I have like these boots
00:37:53.960 popping out the whole thing
00:37:54.860 that's my new outfit
00:37:57.180 it's my new fall outfit
00:37:59.020 we're gonna be two women
00:38:01.760 yeah great that's huge okay we're gonna return
00:38:03.920 to becoming a woman okay
00:38:04.960 I just want to tell you everything shave okay
00:38:07.600 the mustache yeah it's gone is there more to say about that
00:38:09.980 I don't think so
00:38:10.980 I don't think so
00:38:13.560 Hey, I'll pop in with this.
00:38:15.340 Wait, I'm trying to do a recap.
00:38:16.520 Okay, sorry.
00:38:17.020 Go ahead.
00:38:17.420 Is this for the episode or just for us?
00:38:19.460 Both, maybe.
00:38:20.200 It could be huge.
00:38:21.060 All right, hold on.
00:38:21.560 Sephora, I haven't told you about it yet.
00:38:23.240 Oh, my God, great.
00:38:23.440 Okay, so that's going on the thing.
00:38:24.540 Okay.
00:38:25.040 Okay, that says Christmas topper.
00:38:26.920 We're good. 0.97
00:38:27.200 I haven't said shit about it. 0.89
00:38:29.180 You're good. 0.97
00:38:31.220 Okay, because you locked in.
00:38:32.760 Okay, you fixated.
00:38:33.800 I'll go to Christmas topper.
00:38:34.780 Okay, Christmas topper.
00:38:35.300 Okay, I'm going to hit Tartt.
00:38:36.580 That's good.
00:38:37.460 Okay.
00:38:38.740 I guess I'll tell you, you're not going to be interested.
00:38:40.360 but i'll tell you about okay i'm gonna tell you about um this like ikea pegboard i'm fixated on
00:38:46.140 okay pegboard you oh the thing you're picturing you were picturing uh i don't know what i was
00:38:52.600 picturing you lay down you on your stomach you know this feeling i just got excited because i
00:38:56.920 got a pang of hunger which means like the dinner can't be that far can be or like they did and
00:39:01.140 that like or that i will be hungry it'll be so exciting yeah totally wait wait i've written down
00:39:07.060 i've written down party goers oh i once i still haven't covered what i wanted to say about your
00:39:10.920 sink i still haven't covered lights at ikea okay and then i'm curious about nordic knots and i want
00:39:21.680 to know how you got tipped off to this someone text me well because by the way someone a friend
00:39:26.600 i was like didn't you say you got a great rug she goes yeah this rug and she goes it's like a rip
00:39:31.540 off it's like a knockoff of nordic knots okay see isn't that amazing and then you and then that's
00:39:37.000 you go exactly what's nordic knots okay by the way nordic knots yeah i'm listening just send
00:39:41.600 some rugs plural you want to play one for party one for life okay oh my god so oh by the way i
00:39:48.960 don't actually by the way that's an incredible idea but no no i mean i don't know it would be
00:39:52.440 it would be uh i'm saying it would be a cheap a cheaper rug that is designed for entertaining
00:39:59.200 like like you literally bring it out it's like because hey when i have a few friends over okay
00:40:04.560 ADD, flexible seating, people like to sit on the floor,
00:40:06.740 like to move from the floor to the couch and whatever.
00:40:08.720 I'm like, I can barely sit on a couch
00:40:10.600 because I constantly think I'm about to get my period
00:40:12.460 through my pants onto anyone's couch.
00:40:14.800 I just prefer to be like on my own legs.
00:40:17.200 There's many reasons I like to sit on the floor. 1.00
00:40:18.560 Is this only in a Christian home? 1.00
00:40:20.040 Yeah. 0.98
00:40:22.340 Dining room tables where the chairs are fabric.
00:40:27.820 No, because I think some people had it.
00:40:29.660 No, because people had it in the 80s, in the 70s.
00:40:32.420 When I sit on it, I go.
00:40:32.880 New York, 70s.
00:40:34.480 I mean, I, by the way.
00:40:35.820 We didn't have that.
00:40:36.320 No.
00:40:36.760 But you see what I'm saying?
00:40:37.540 I'm just remembering now that I had an ex-boyfriend. 0.83
00:40:40.800 No, I've seen Orthodoxy Jason. 0.85
00:40:43.500 And it was that night.
00:40:44.380 Yeah, I remember now Pesach freaking out, thinking I'm bleeding all over the chair.
00:40:47.780 And I wasn't.
00:40:49.080 Ugh.
00:40:50.120 Yeah, that's.
00:40:51.100 Throwing Pesach out?
00:40:53.120 Notice I didn't even blink.
00:40:54.820 Okay.
00:40:56.140 Wait, hold on.
00:40:56.720 But discovering the expensive thing through the knockoff,
00:41:02.300 It's like how I learned about furniture via Craigslist.
00:41:05.980 Yeah.
00:41:06.680 They're like Eames style.
00:41:09.800 Yeah, exactly.
00:41:11.100 They're like, yeah, Eames style.
00:41:12.800 And then you're like, tell me more about Eames.
00:41:14.640 And then you got on a path.
00:41:15.960 I'm trying to rejoin Facebook Marketplace.
00:41:18.180 I deactivated, or not deleted, but I deactivated Facebook years ago.
00:41:20.760 I'm locked out in a way that no one can ever imagine.
00:41:22.900 No, no, no.
00:41:23.420 Locked out beyond.
00:41:23.920 Getting back in.
00:41:24.920 They go, and then Facebook.
00:41:26.040 This is Facebook, right? 1.00
00:41:27.240 Meta, whatever the fuck. 0.99
00:41:28.360 I go, you know, send me the code to my phone. 0.99
00:41:31.040 Not there.
00:41:31.380 they go yeah find my identity the other way sorry this isn't working yeah well you mean it's not
00:41:34.920 working aren't you the most powerful thing in the world yeah you can't figure it out the website
00:41:38.400 and then also yelp i had a yelp breakdown where where with passwords no no no no worse worse i
00:41:46.580 go i need to tell yelp this so i'm telling yelp this looking up a hotel and you know sometimes
00:41:51.940 hysterical you want to read the yelp go to yelp and then read it or do you just google hotel
00:41:55.560 No, I was Googling the thing.
00:41:56.440 I saw some Yelp.
00:41:56.980 Okay, because I was like, she's opening apps first.
00:41:59.280 I see the Yelp reviews.
00:42:00.980 I click, so I want to see photos.
00:42:02.000 It goes, redirects me to the app store.
00:42:04.340 I go, well, and it says open, because I already have Yelp downloaded.
00:42:07.160 Open it.
00:42:08.160 Open, not there.
00:42:09.660 Okay.
00:42:09.980 Not there.
00:42:11.060 Wait, I've had that a few times, too. 1.00
00:42:12.980 Yelp has a huge fucking issue. 1.00
00:42:14.580 Yelp has a huge issue. 0.99
00:42:15.620 Now, when you say open it, not there, what do you mean?
00:42:17.840 I go, and then I'm just weirdly somewhere else in Yelp,
00:42:20.860 in a different street on Yelp.
00:42:23.080 Like, different.
00:42:23.700 You mean that, oh, okay, okay.
00:42:25.260 I know what you're saying.
00:42:27.180 It won't open to the business side that I was told.
00:42:29.480 It won't directly send you there.
00:42:31.560 And then even worse, I Googled for it.
00:42:35.300 No, no.
00:42:35.680 So then I'm on Yelp.
00:42:37.060 I enter in the hotel.
00:42:38.240 We lost each other.
00:42:40.660 I enter in the hotel name.
00:42:42.660 Nothing.
00:42:43.340 I go, what do you mean nothing?
00:42:45.700 I'm seeing the Yelp reviews online.
00:42:49.700 Nowhere to be found.
00:42:51.760 Why do you want it via Yelp?
00:42:53.580 I just do.
00:42:54.740 Okay.
00:42:55.120 yelp has been yelp has been a friend
00:42:58.300 okay i trust i i want to see photos from the people staying there right yes like i want to
00:43:07.620 see certifiable reviews right but i feel like i'm never on yelp for hotels but i'm always looking at
00:43:12.780 restaurants no i'm always looking at pictures of hotels google google review must be the window
00:43:19.320 into
00:43:19.880 like the window into
00:43:25.540 human life okay
00:43:29.240 if you look something up on Amazon
00:43:31.400 okay and you scroll down oh I know
00:43:33.420 and you get to the photos I watch videos
00:43:35.160 the videos people like videos by the way
00:43:37.320 I do not appreciate this this
00:43:39.280 lure of honest review of
00:43:41.300 which is just yeah yeah and it's
00:43:43.280 an ad well no I
00:43:45.220 resent that it's like it's 0.98
00:43:47.400 trying to bait you almost into sort of thinking that maybe they're going to shit on the product 0.94
00:43:51.740 and so you get the clicks yeah and then it's like i love it yeah yeah we talked about this 0.73
00:43:57.560 like publicly but the people that that doc stars on say a book review on amazon because it arrived
00:44:06.800 damaged and the author has to live with that oh my god you're a genius oh you ready people zero
00:44:14.360 stars for this particular lemon squeezer okay because it never arrived outrageous get a life
00:44:23.280 yeah you're the system that's no go to customer service that's not what you're reviewing yeah
00:44:29.500 completely okay where are you with batch cocktails at a party
00:44:35.420 okay wait um okay wait wait wait wait really quickly i just want to say
00:44:43.220 Charming experience is a lot with a lost and found.
00:44:49.540 When's the last time you had to visit a lost and found?
00:44:51.700 So two things.
00:44:52.740 Daily.
00:44:53.200 A couple years ago, I had a transformative left of Precious Jacket.
00:44:56.340 Hello, Poop tour, left of Precious Jacket.
00:44:58.360 How dare you even tell me that story when I end that story.
00:45:00.580 I know you were.
00:45:01.080 You were with me.
00:45:01.620 You were guiding me through.
00:45:03.640 Okay, but listen to this.
00:45:05.780 I'm at a movie.
00:45:06.360 The community gathered around you.
00:45:07.560 I know.
00:45:07.880 Everyone in your life, we all supported.
00:45:09.660 I know.
00:45:10.500 Okay, I was at a screening.
00:45:11.840 at the theater right classic thing leaving the theater to walk to dinner i go oh the belt fell
00:45:17.620 off my jacket so upsetting i go i don't want to turn back right because we're closer to the
00:45:22.600 restaurant i go i must be wrong i must do this whole thing would i have the belt on was it in
00:45:26.920 the car was it at the house whatever yeah i i just go internally i go the belt's at the movie theater
00:45:32.300 i go i'm going ahead okay meaning i'm going ahead with my night knowing that i can get it
00:45:37.340 going ahead i'm just gonna figure out or it's gonna be at home i just was like i can't go
00:45:41.000 Turning back felt too overwhelming.
00:45:42.840 Yes, yes.
00:45:43.520 So the next day, and part of me goes, okay, it's gone forever. 0.79
00:45:46.880 Like, part of me was like, I'm just, I don't want to fucking deal with it.
00:45:49.080 Lost and found, I'm going to get my car. 0.86
00:45:50.300 Like, this is, next day I call.
00:45:52.100 Six hours.
00:45:52.660 And I think, and I imagine calling, I'm not going to read someone, right?
00:45:55.300 It's going to be a whole thing.
00:45:56.180 How replaceable is the belt?
00:45:57.420 So here's the thing.
00:45:58.440 It's made, like, I had it kind of, it goes with a specific jacket, and I had to have it tailored.
00:46:03.560 The belt snipped.
00:46:06.040 Tailored for me, added a whole.
00:46:07.740 Snipped is disgusting.
00:46:09.400 Okay.
00:46:10.320 And the leather matches the jacket beautifully.
00:46:12.120 I think it's because it sounds so close to the word tip.
00:46:15.000 Oh.
00:46:16.480 And so the snip and tip.
00:46:18.600 I got snip, obviously, just instant bris imagery.
00:46:22.220 That's what I mean.
00:46:22.880 And so the proximity of the word tip.
00:46:24.740 Yeah, yeah.
00:46:25.800 But okay. 1.00
00:46:26.680 No, but it's precious enough that I go, no, fuck. 1.00
00:46:29.020 And then I'm convincing myself, I can get another leather belt made. 0.99
00:46:31.800 And I go, interesting, hemorrhaging money for, you know what?
00:46:34.260 So the next day, I almost didn't pick up the phone to call the theater because I go,
00:46:37.780 I'm going to be lost from bureaucracy.
00:46:39.000 I'm going to get to a voicemail.
00:46:39.980 It's gone.
00:46:40.400 It's gone.
00:46:42.040 Hi.
00:46:43.440 Hi.
00:46:43.800 I was at a screening last night.
00:46:45.280 Yep, we have it.
00:46:46.220 Instant. 0.99
00:46:46.700 I go, are you fucking kidding me? 0.99
00:46:48.040 I go, oh, my God, you're kidding. 0.99
00:46:49.380 Can I come?
00:46:49.920 Let me redirect you to the lost and found.
00:46:51.500 Talking to this guy.
00:46:52.280 He goes, when can you come?
00:46:53.180 I go, I'm not kidding.
00:46:54.800 Realistically, I won't be there.
00:46:56.120 I want to give a week and a half, two weeks.
00:46:58.380 He goes, yep, I'm writing.
00:46:59.880 Give me your name.
00:47:00.440 Give me your number.
00:47:02.900 I went.
00:47:04.520 Parked outside.
00:47:05.320 By the way, do you have it yet?
00:47:06.740 It's in my car.
00:47:08.040 But I go in.
00:47:08.880 Security desk.
00:47:09.840 Hi, I left a belt here.
00:47:11.280 Oh, yeah, here it is.
00:47:12.100 They put it in a little package for me.
00:47:15.240 Hand it to me.
00:47:16.020 I go, people.
00:47:19.300 Actually, anytime you have one of those experiences, you go.
00:47:25.180 It's like a miracle.
00:47:25.780 You go.
00:47:26.240 Well, I have two things to say, okay?
00:47:29.100 I'm like, the loss of that.
00:47:30.140 Is this the 50s?
00:47:31.420 Yeah, and when it works?
00:47:32.340 Like pre-internet culture, lost and found.
00:47:34.560 Lost and found.
00:47:35.260 And then there was two things you said as a miracle.
00:47:38.420 oh people
00:47:38.980 because I'm like
00:47:40.000 okay when I have
00:47:40.680 that experience
00:47:41.060 I go thanks so much
00:47:42.100 for holding on
00:47:44.560 to it for me
00:47:45.420 he goes
00:47:45.860 no problem
00:47:46.320 two weeks
00:47:48.820 the belt was there
00:47:49.540 behind the desk
00:47:50.200 take a minute with that
00:47:51.940 I'm gonna get the exact date
00:47:53.180 I don't have to
00:47:53.840 it's almost two weeks
00:47:55.020 that's
00:47:56.560 that's a commitment
00:47:57.800 to a stranger
00:47:58.380 I mean to me the daily burden
00:47:59.240 is not that heavy on them
00:48:00.700 once they've found
00:48:01.480 the place that the
00:48:02.440 belt in the pouch
00:48:03.660 is gonna live
00:48:04.400 it's not like
00:48:05.480 you know
00:48:05.740 it increases daily
00:48:06.660 it's not a tuna sandwich rotting okay good point okay but i was still moved
00:48:13.240 no absolutely so so i'm proud of myself i went back for it yeah i almost go i love that belt
00:48:22.400 and i thought lost to the annals of history i always remember i saw queer and i lost my belt
00:48:27.540 yeah right yeah i did that with a hat white water rafting once i lost it is that and i and i was 0.59
00:48:35.980 like my feet dragging it's like this camping like teenager thing and like it's actually where i
00:48:41.560 learned did a bit of rock climbing okay oh but right we're at a rafting knocked knocked into
00:48:47.420 the into the sea i think we're in little canoes or something hat feet dragging getting like just
00:48:53.520 feet hitting rocks okay being like like you know you sign waivers and it's like yeah it's not safe
00:49:00.400 easily could have
00:49:01.500 if my head
00:49:02.100 knocked into something 0.95
00:49:03.220 dead
00:49:03.580 gone yeah
00:49:04.200 okay but anyway my hat
00:49:06.060 it's amazing we're not
00:49:07.260 just constantly
00:49:07.700 hitting our heads
00:49:08.380 lost to the sea
00:49:11.580 and I was
00:49:11.900 you know
00:49:12.160 sacrificed to the sea
00:49:13.260 it was a river
00:49:14.520 I lost a sea
00:49:15.640 I lost a
00:49:16.320 I remember
00:49:16.720 I remember the moment
00:49:17.500 I lost a tow ring
00:49:18.400 as a child
00:49:19.240 6th grade
00:49:20.740 6th grade
00:49:21.760 tow ring into the ocean
00:49:22.540 it's like well
00:49:22.900 it'll always be here
00:49:23.500 at the San Monaco Pier
00:49:24.220 kind of helped
00:49:25.080 that's beautiful
00:49:26.180 and by the way
00:49:26.660 look at me now
00:49:27.220 full grown woman
00:49:30.400 And?
00:49:31.200 And I feel I remember the toe ring more now.
00:49:34.940 Oh, yeah, exactly.
00:49:36.020 Sometimes losing a thing actually enforces a memory more than having it.
00:49:38.700 The absence throws into relief.
00:49:42.940 My favorite, my favorite verb phrase.
00:49:47.240 So useful.
00:49:48.380 But wait, hold on, Kate.
00:49:50.040 Here's the thing I want to cover before we go.
00:49:51.920 Yeah.
00:49:52.600 I'll wait for the phone to obviously be complete before I say anything.
00:49:57.340 Okay.
00:49:57.600 Okay.
00:50:00.400 lost and found oh
00:50:03.200 well i left my gray back country have you been okay it's a joke but have you been um uh uh my
00:50:14.600 my my gray it's not a stanley it's a hydro flask right okay i left it in re-grocery figure that
00:50:20.760 out okay chris goes oh god you know i think you left it in re-grocery okay okay got it you know
00:50:25.880 a week later i decided i want to get some more popcorn kernels in there which as you know i now
00:50:30.040 I'll pop in a glass bowl with a plate resting on top of it.
00:50:33.020 Incredible, incredible.
00:50:33.700 Okay?
00:50:35.020 It's so delicious.
00:50:37.000 And the amount that a couple kernels, you think of a little kernel,
00:50:40.240 you think of a piece of popcorn, I mean, it's,
00:50:45.140 a little creates more than you think it's going to create.
00:50:47.660 And not just the amount you think it's going to create.
00:50:49.240 Oh, I believe it, I believe it.
00:50:49.780 Okay, phenomenal.
00:50:51.180 Anyway, I roll in a re-grocery just when I'm ready for some kernels, okay?
00:50:54.680 Because I will not be bothered, right?
00:50:56.700 I'm willing to let it be free,
00:50:58.600 decide that maybe it's time for a new color
00:51:00.320 whatever
00:51:01.460 and by the way I just realized
00:51:04.700 when you said it it's so specific
00:51:06.520 hi
00:51:06.940 yeah like hi
00:51:08.220 yeah
00:51:09.480 so
00:51:12.000 I go I think I might have left my
00:51:15.800 and then the why
00:51:17.660 gotta do that
00:51:18.960 they had it in the back
00:51:21.460 sweet
00:51:23.120 that's all I had to say that wasn't what
00:51:25.580 I came here to say
00:51:26.980 okay you're never gonna believe it i'm gonna i'm gonna say it we actually gotta wrap up
00:51:31.480 so first coming from you doll okay we gotta wrap up but there's a few things we didn't get to and
00:51:36.640 i really want to will someone make a note that next episode i want to talk about becoming a woman
00:51:40.940 yeah it's a huge and i i want to talk about christmas tree choppers okay um i think that's
00:51:46.960 it great all right oh time to call out the founders okay well first of all before we do that
00:51:53.540 Yeah. If you're listening to this and you live in Los Angeles or in the tri-state area. Exactly. Or I don't know, in a different nation altogether. You know, that's only New York, right? The tri-state. All right. Of course. It's New York and New Jersey and Connecticut. Of course. OK, well, I still like saying it. Absolutely. No, I just recently. But thank you for for reminding me of that. But.
00:52:17.160 But we have shows.
00:52:19.640 If you live within six hours driving.
00:52:21.580 So, exactly.
00:52:22.640 The iconic Hollywood.
00:52:23.860 Three hours flying.
00:52:24.720 I know.
00:52:25.140 People have done it.
00:52:25.900 The iconic Hollywood Forever Cemetery in Los Angeles, in the heart of Hollywood.
00:52:30.380 The Masonic Lodge.
00:52:31.200 Beautiful venue if you haven't been to it.
00:52:32.680 We are going to be doing three Christmas shows.
00:52:34.760 There are basically the first two are sold out, which has caused us to add a third late show.
00:52:40.620 That's December 12th at 930.
00:52:42.240 We're going to have special surprises.
00:52:44.700 It's going to be a real night.
00:52:45.880 And we also want to formally apologize to everyone that we haven't been able, that we weren't able to do a big Christmas tour this year.
00:52:54.360 As you can imagine, business was, we were undergoing a lot this holiday season trying to get this show up on its feet.
00:52:59.960 It's a class, it's like trying to tell the kids like, no, you having food on the table last week was Christmas.
00:53:06.180 Yeah, yeah, totally.
00:53:06.780 That's being like, the fact that you have a podcast.
00:53:08.720 No, no, no.
00:53:09.700 So we weren't able to, and of course, we see all your messages.
00:53:12.740 We're desperate to come back.
00:53:13.740 We will be back.
00:53:14.600 Please know.
00:53:15.340 I know that you know in your heart.
00:53:16.520 I'm still, I'm like, maybe we can sneak a few in.
00:53:18.500 Don't even say it.
00:53:19.020 Because I'm one of the few, I always know that there's a venue.
00:53:21.100 There's always a venue.
00:53:22.200 But it's not happening.
00:53:23.620 I refuse to accept that.
00:53:24.740 But yeah, tell them it's not happening.
00:53:25.280 But the point is that we will be to your city.
00:53:27.900 We promise.
00:53:29.200 But if you are in LA, check out the show.
00:53:32.680 December 12th, 930.
00:53:34.280 Nothing can replace a live experience.
00:53:35.740 Those are Christmas miracle shows.
00:53:37.500 They're called a Christmas miracle because that's what it is.
00:53:39.540 Because this is a Christmas miracle.
00:53:40.920 And it has been a Christmas miracle.
00:53:42.540 perfect segue for all of you showing up supporting us you truly can't imagine it's been it's been
00:53:48.580 the man with the bag is all the whole time the hags the whole time and we would like to specifically
00:53:54.960 shout out our founders oh yeah who are again if you have not if you're unaware we can do a donation
00:54:00.560 at the founding level these are um and of course everyone who's uh supporting the show thank you
00:54:06.080 so much but a special shout out to all right so this is the order we're going to maintain it
00:54:10.360 forever. Suzanne Abate, Suzanne Abate, David Saul, Mr. Saul, and Michael Stolte. Those are our
00:54:28.040 founding listeners. Suzanne Abate, David Saul, Michael Stolte. I don't know, but last time we
00:54:38.920 right in but um thank you uh and see you next week there's so much coming
00:54:46.800 it's true it's a lot okay i love you all right love you
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