Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - April 05, 2022


What a Way To Go

Topics
nutrition and restrictive diets
A Gibson She's Still Talking

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1 hour and 6 minutes

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189.43

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12,582

Sentence count

257

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Misogyny

22

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Toxicity

67

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33

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00:02:39.140 Hi, I'm Kate Berlant.
00:02:40.640 I'm Jacqueline Novak.
00:02:41.740 And this is Poogh, an ongoing conversation about wellness
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00:02:55.840 B12 Freak Accidents Jet Lag.
00:03:01.740 I'm furious.
00:03:03.680 How dare you not warn me that you are coming in with full makeup?
00:03:09.640 I wanted to surprise you.
00:03:11.280 No, this is not.
00:03:12.420 No, no.
00:03:12.720 Well, this is beyond.
00:03:13.400 This is like a work thing.
00:03:15.200 Look at my hair.
00:03:16.040 No, I know.
00:03:16.560 I know.
00:03:17.180 but it's still exciting because it wow i'm furious you always when you are gonna do like beauty 0.99
00:03:25.020 a beauty pose you like make your face look dumb like you you drop intelligence right 0.96
00:03:31.700 yeah i drop a few watts yeah you're like you're like let's dim this out for everyone 1.00
00:03:37.560 so i can become like a nothing more than a nothing more than a vessel for your orgasm 0.69
00:03:45.420 yeah yeah it's an interesting thing it is so just to clarify for the listener I have a full 0.69
00:03:51.580 face of makeup on my hair kind of blown out with texture a makeup test for something yeah so it's
00:03:57.580 not makeup that I would ordinarily wear but you know what I look like right I look like I have a
00:04:01.840 wellness podcast in Los Angeles oh wow and I went to Erewhon twice today and just now I picked up
00:04:10.180 and look at me okay tell me jacqueline
00:04:13.740 bouncing around the house with energy and here's what what i think is doing it the green juice
00:04:20.980 okay okay it's not the green juice but the green juice is great and filled with essential minerals
00:04:25.140 yeah there's no way it was the green juice so i got my blood drawn by a doctor i don't like
00:04:31.880 years ago okay just didn't like her just we didn't hit it off there were a couple weird
00:04:37.540 things she did like she just was like first of all she was like are you with boys or girls
00:04:42.660 i don't like that yeah it's vile it was absolutely vile because first of all like 0.86
00:04:49.640 because it's like pretending to be modern and yet driving home the binary boys and girls no no it 1.00
00:04:57.540 was i don't and i really am it was disgusting so that was like right out of the gate i was like 0.57
00:05:02.760 was there any reason that it was relevant in the context of this blood drawing
00:05:06.160 no that that was i remember i remember also being like this is weird like i'm not in here for like
00:05:10.620 a gynecological exam or anything having to do with the reproductive system it was so strange
00:05:16.420 wait were you already were you in the full face of makeup no no i'm sorry this doctor was years ago
00:05:20.600 but years ago i went to this doctor i lost i was like i was like give me a blood panel and send me 1.00
00:05:25.980 on my way bitch and i got a blood panel and she was like you are deficient in vitamin or she was 1.00
00:05:31.580 like, you're going to want to do some vitamin D and B12. And I essentially ignored her or I think 1.00
00:05:36.420 I started to, and then was like, what? So I have something to say, which is that if listening to
00:05:41.520 me, if you remembered, I was having some kind of mild long haul stuff of like, Oh, we remember
00:05:46.080 fatigue. That was really depressing me. Like I almost burst into tears last week. Cause I felt
00:05:49.920 like I could not stay awake at 2 PM and I've had eight hours of sleep. And anyway, I talked to a
00:05:54.820 doctor who said that was normal, but I'm having more energy, but I'm sorry. So an eight's not
00:06:01.420 enough for all of us but athletic greens here i go i'm back on the what it's not enough for all of
00:06:06.840 us no i'm nine i'm actually nine i'm nine minimum sorry um so i okay so i'm back on the athletic
00:06:14.320 greens obviously that camp it's i know it's not that simple folks but yeah athletic greens did
00:06:19.020 send us d3 like vitamin d drops and then i purchased some b12 drops so reckon me this this
00:06:26.920 morning yeah i dropped the b12 i take it i do the ag with the with the vitamin d okay vitamin pack
00:06:33.360 smoothie vitamin pack smoothie kids and then this is what this is the bad additionally you mean you
00:06:38.360 mean like additionally i had i made a smoothie which is a kind of a spin-off of um mark hyman
00:06:43.860 smoothie so it's rice cauliflower wild organic blueberries almond milk very clean almond milk
00:06:49.900 folks no additives here this isn't califia kids this isn't the califia wars or it is the califia
00:06:54.980 worse you better get off the train or you're gonna go to an early grave wait wait wait what's
00:07:00.400 califia or it's califia califia it comes in a very seductive like like voluptuous bottle i know that
00:07:07.460 one sort of matte touch i mean it's essentially like drinking the floor i mean it's just i worry
00:07:13.560 because it's filled with with gums it's like yeah lots of gums lots of additives like you really
00:07:19.920 want just the the nut some himalayan sea salt and water and where do you get that you're not making
00:07:26.500 your own right any major i used to actually but major any major roaster we know three barns is a
00:07:33.120 good brand milk okay anyway whatever or is it new barn i don't have time but listen i mean can you
00:07:39.460 know i'm sailing oh it's a marvel to be seen i threw chia seeds in there i mean the real question
00:07:45.580 soon as was b12 involved yeah and then i took the b12 well there it is folks there it is okay
00:07:52.620 are you serious you think so you think that's it because yeah i'll tell you why after i am
00:07:57.100 completely alert and i had the urge i went i'm having the urge to work out still haven't worked
00:08:02.800 out in months essentially and i yeah talked to him at the b12 because well the idea i've always
00:08:08.940 was shocked by the idea of of literal desire to move as a concept like that you could have energy
00:08:14.700 that actually makes you want to move that that i mean depression years that was like i literally
00:08:19.400 don't even understand what that means to me energy meant the lack of desperation to to sleep or to
00:08:25.560 lie there so but i and i can't remember now i'm trying to think when i've experienced that but
00:08:30.000 i told my friend i was like i can't sleep whatever whatever one night like and then i was like man i
00:08:36.460 did take this b12 whatever and he was like you cannot take b12 like late in the day are you
00:08:43.240 kidding stop stop i just assume something as common as a b12 something oh you should take
00:08:49.920 a b complex oh get to some b12 okay to me i'm like that's a vitamin there are never immediate
00:08:55.980 effects seemingly from vitamins it's something you beg to have an effect register six months
00:09:02.280 down the road maybe you have to commit to it for 15 years to see like a tiny incremental change
00:09:07.840 it's basically you better be reporting you better be journaling it can be read by science
00:09:11.680 yeah yeah yeah b12 it turns out now do you feel happy is there a crash coming there's joy
00:09:19.160 no so and by the way i want to be clear because you you did say you were amped to me twice with
00:09:25.100 two with both times full caps well i i think also it's it's almost 6 p.m here i'm just kind of
00:09:33.000 amazed that i didn't get hit with fatigue today and i didn't need coffee at like 3 p.m that's
00:09:37.380 the kind of the most shocking thing i was like totally fine and then for lunch i had i think
00:09:42.620 also this is what we don't like to hear guess what you had a bread-free lunch and you're soaring
00:09:47.620 yeah i mean like we hate i know i i don't i don't want to hear it yeah no one wants to admit it but
00:09:54.580 at some point we're gonna have to accept the science i don't want to talk about it and i'm
00:09:59.080 i will never relinquish bread i will never but like i have to say
00:10:02.740 I've been breadless for a few days and I guess it's registering in the energy levels
00:10:08.560 well yeah I had a piece of salmon oh I had salmon as well I had some edamame
00:10:15.840 and I had a broccoli stem salad a combo plate from Erewhon you need to understand what the
00:10:21.720 broccoli stem is so literally none of the paintbrush at the end by the way it said that
00:10:26.240 in the description I feel like that's not what I ate what I what I ate was like kale with I guess
00:10:30.780 shaved broccoli stems i do love broccoli stems shaved raw shaved raw yeah okay so like mandolin
00:10:38.880 but dressed dress and then there was some like oh i had the best thing this week traveling wait
00:10:44.840 let me remember it was a warm they called it room temperature but to me i experienced it as warm
00:10:51.840 cabbage salad i've never had it before so so make no mistake about this okay well cabbage is my
00:10:59.980 whole world the cab it was an italian restaurant of southern italian oh oh yeah not to be confused
00:11:05.720 with the north yeah well i feel like a lot of the italian restaurants we've been frequenting
00:11:11.360 have been proudly southern oh oh oh well where was i recently where they go well we're a roman
00:11:17.740 restaurant oh my and i was like do me a favor oh no i actually loved the restaurant i was about to
00:11:24.540 talk some shit and i don't even know why do me a favor i had a great meal but let me know if it's 0.81
00:11:30.720 done but it was warm cabbage and i don't even know what the hell oh i think there were um 0.99
00:11:36.120 anchovies in it chopped chopped julienned help no they were they were they were almost like an inch
00:11:42.900 by an inch pieces fabulous they're bigger than you expected i have a photo of it it was absolute
00:11:49.540 ecstasy I instantly realized I was going to have to bring it into my life we've talked about purple
00:11:54.940 cabbage recently just just sauteing purple cabbage in a honey purple cabbage that's gonna last in
00:12:01.920 your fridge for oh I don't know two and a half weeks I mean truly wow always have one in there
00:12:06.120 I I'm sorry but I'm just so focused on my energy right now I cannot believe let's keep talking
00:12:10.900 about it and by the way and here's the hell of when when you have a day like this and you go
00:12:15.560 wait what it's 3 p.m i don't need coffee my life is opening up i feel i feel the light of christ
00:12:20.100 entering me you know it's like what is that and sure there are emotional elements that cultivate
00:12:27.140 joy right and that's again when you you free fall into chaos because i'm like well you mean the fear
00:12:33.660 of maintaining no well that is like you know the white knuckle grip i have on it of course is
00:12:38.480 terrifying but i just meant like we can never locate the origin right so like yeah it's also
00:12:44.260 ephemeral it's also fleeting you know there are real life personal elements right now which are
00:12:49.920 which would imbue my life with energy or joy but i'm talking about on a physical molecular level
00:12:55.180 right now what i'm feeling you know different it's a different thing and i physical people
00:12:59.220 try to tell people that they don't know what they're experiencing and you know when you know 0.68
00:13:04.020 yeah you know you know when you fucking know you know when you know there was one day in like many
00:13:10.540 years depression basically that had minor ups and downs within the general low level right yeah 0.74
00:13:17.620 years and years and there was one day where it lifted okay and no way like you woke up and you
00:13:26.280 were like huh well I'll tell you it's shocking I agree for this it was like a whatever day there
00:13:30.920 wasn't anything crazy about it I kept trying to like search for you know what it was but I was
00:13:36.620 looking around and suddenly literally asked my parents i said is the light in here different
00:13:44.660 today okay i was like i was like everything i was looking around just at the table or whatever i was
00:13:53.020 like everything looks like crisp okay in this way and i also felt like the periphery of my vision
00:14:01.900 was a little like wider you know like when they vignette it and the corners are like dark
00:14:07.140 like on a photo or an old photo or something and then i i read once in probably noonday demon or
00:14:13.060 something i forget which thing i read it in maybe i don't know i read a lot of depression books at
00:14:17.160 the time but it was like talking about this woman who would who would know that it was like a thing
00:14:22.320 with her husband like they would know that she was either like slipping into depression or there
00:14:27.180 was a problem with the meds or like something because her vision would literally narrow and
00:14:33.320 i i just find that completely stunning and even now it's hard to say like i'm kind of looking
00:14:39.120 around going well is this the clarity of what that one day was like am i or my you know my back
00:14:44.780 of the vignette but i've made peace in here i don't know i mean definitely not in the one sense
00:14:49.600 but anyway it's just i remember feeling this feeling of like literally the next day it was
00:14:54.500 gone it was like back okay oh god and i think i like wept to my parents and said i wasn't even
00:15:01.960 like upset it was more like it was profoundly validating because i realized what i had been
00:15:09.000 living in was distinct from that that yeah because it wasn't like i didn't feel high it wasn't like
00:15:15.560 oh you were manic that day it wasn't i wasn't any of that it was like calm regular whatever
00:15:19.560 and so it made me it gave me this pride I was like not pride quite exactly but this like
00:15:24.660 pat on the bat sense when you're living in like something like that for a really long time like
00:15:29.620 you start to question if you're just you even are you know what I mean or you've just told
00:15:33.620 yourself you are and then to experience the lift and go oh no no I am living with a headache
00:15:38.620 constantly or whatever you know what I mean an altered state yeah yeah and so it was like
00:15:42.380 I felt like a little bit of pride like even going back in it like I'm back in it but having the
00:15:46.960 reprieve made me aware of like good for me yes you're hanging on you know what i mean like look
00:15:52.760 at me like i don't know it was kind of a weird positive it was kind of a weird positive moment
00:15:58.720 sort of grim but did you try to locate what it was it was completely there was nothing i mean
00:16:06.920 there was truly nothing and it's not like i it just wasn't and and oh but i say that you know
00:16:13.540 to try to explain like anyone like if i were talking to me and that that had happened you
00:16:19.020 know i'd be looking i'd be i'd be like we can figure this out we can find it we can find what
00:16:21.920 it was you know like right and there was nothing it's just i don't know it was it's very weird 0.51
00:16:29.960 where then you start to go fucking spiritual because you're just like of course okay so
00:16:35.420 interesting okay because we were talking on i think the last episode about um foundation right 0.98
00:16:40.520 do you have foundation on you must yes I have a and I was just thinking the amount of makeup I have
00:16:45.180 on it's eerie to me that I don't look like I have more on because you know what I'm saying like I
00:16:51.280 have so much on but I don't feel like if you're looking at me I mean again this is a zoom window
00:16:56.160 you know window if you were here in the room I think you'd really see the gravity of the makeup
00:17:00.660 but but if if that was you every day like if we worked in an office and you came in with that
00:17:05.620 level of makeup I'd stop like processing the makeup and it would kind of just be like like
00:17:09.500 it's nothing crazy no no it certainly isn't crazy it's like oh she wears eyeshadow no people that
00:17:14.580 people do this people absolutely do this yeah there's nothing it doesn't look like
00:17:18.120 it looks appropriate for any scenario you wouldn't be overdressed for the office you wouldn't be
00:17:25.880 overdressed for dinner like this isn't that's a daily face for a lot of people oh wow see because
00:17:31.940 i i felt so and by the way it's well done it's well done makeup yeah i felt insane going to the
00:17:38.460 supermarket with this much on totally walking in I was like oh god fear that people would think you
00:17:44.020 were some some I don't know what I I know what did I feel I'm some bitty like I'm not like this
00:17:49.340 yeah yeah well I almost had years ago yeah like I imagined running into someone and I had this 0.61
00:17:54.940 weird moment I go I would tell them like I just came from a work thing I know who fucking care
00:18:00.080 it's not even that much I'd be like I know and I don't and I again and this is someone I love 0.74
00:18:05.260 makeup clown face over here whatever like I and again I love makeup I do wear makeup basically
00:18:11.520 every day yeah I wear I feel naked without mascara I feel naked without my tinted sunscreen
00:18:17.220 well those things yeah I feel I feel but that's even hardly makeup at this point
00:18:23.320 third graders wear that exactly I mean I think it really comes down yeah it really comes down to
00:18:28.660 I think what we're really addressing is the same thing we we were considering last week
00:18:33.060 which is the foundation it's not the lip for us it's not the eye it's the foundation
00:18:38.720 and the blush that's going on and i do believe she put a little bronzer like there's something
00:18:44.640 going on i'm sure she did i mean they don't mess around anymore and she went around my lips like
00:18:50.800 look at my lips so your lips are lined not as it is right yeah they're a little wider right a little
00:18:56.460 extra got a little extra going on and it's just very the energy's dipping we all feel it what no
00:19:05.940 no it's back it's back no i've relaxed into kind of like i feel what do i feel i feel like i'm on
00:19:10.600 a lawn chair and you're sort of like flitting about in front of me and i'm enjoying it and
00:19:15.160 i'm loving it i can't believe yeah i mean i can step up no no no i put a shelf shelf together
00:19:20.880 that happened oh the question becomes where to hang it well i also had a two-hour facial today
00:19:26.520 oh yeah i want to talk about that i had oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh so yeah laurie my facialist
00:19:36.560 laurie hollingworth you always give her last name even though we can't get appointments i think
00:19:41.460 maybe you can okay wait wait but she starts it's this thing i felt a hundred times going to her
00:19:46.620 But I'm finally starting to go, what's that?
00:19:48.900 And she lifts it up.
00:19:49.780 And it's this thing that Face Gym very kindly sent us called a skin spatula.
00:19:54.840 But you and I were kind of like, what is this?
00:19:56.780 Technically, free people sent it.
00:19:58.240 Many apologies to the group.
00:19:59.640 Yeah.
00:20:00.340 Free people as a wellness section and they sent it.
00:20:03.080 Beauty.
00:20:03.560 OK.
00:20:04.040 The God bless.
00:20:04.580 Thank you.
00:20:05.500 Anyway, and I'm sure hers is like hers looks great.
00:20:08.780 Hers is more medical grade.
00:20:10.140 Right.
00:20:11.040 Yeah.
00:20:11.260 But she was like, no, it's great.
00:20:13.260 and it feels just like uh it's like slightly vibrating there's a little bit of like
00:20:17.960 off the free the face gym one is there a mist that comes out of it no yeah see i didn't think
00:20:24.280 so hers had a little mist that comes shooting out of it and she put on this toner and then she put
00:20:29.300 on this enzyme mask and it's almost like you're shaving your face is like what it feels like but
00:20:33.840 it feels like nothing and she's and it's like she's like yeah it's just a way to like purify
00:20:38.620 the skin the dermis without squeezing or like overly exfoliating she's like but it is intense
00:20:43.880 she's like if i were to do this a million times like i could create an abrasion i'm and it was
00:20:47.380 a spatula you think it wasn't some kind of form of derma plane nope she wasn't derma plane of any
00:20:52.400 kind you look up a derma plane no she called it a spatula even right let me look up derma plane
00:20:57.900 well the derma plane is like the nope that's an actual razor this isn't it i just can't quite
00:21:06.520 access what even our face gym what wait it's not face gym we have to stop with that it's not
00:21:13.360 i just realized not only did face gym not send it to us not a face gym product the skin gym product
00:21:18.240 skin gym but i got really excited to think about using that yeah i was playing with it and i
00:21:27.020 couldn't quite feel what was really happening although we did get i begged and they sent that
00:21:32.040 the stop x that i'm actually quite excited about tripolar rf or something like that
00:21:38.440 oh yeah i did open that and i got overwhelmed have you used it yet no all i've done is charge
00:21:45.100 it which i'm actually you know quite pleased with yeah that's huge sacrifice an open plug
00:21:51.340 had to unplug something stick it in two ends um yeah sacrifice a lamp every time i unplug something
00:21:59.140 to plug something else in there's a sensation of like yeah that's fine i won't i won't ever use
00:22:03.840 that thing again and then the next day i'm furious i have like two plugs going between my air fryer
00:22:10.020 and my blender i cannot talk to me right now okay you have an air fryer and you use it oh yeah
00:22:17.800 jacqueline jacqueline we need to devote we're going i want to dive head first into the air fryer 0.90
00:22:24.720 okay you're going what is it and why why the fuck would i use something you think i'm deeply
00:22:30.580 deeply excited by it and i've been curious about it for 4 000 years oh you're interested 0.81
00:22:35.080 i didn't know you were privately air frying okay so let's i'm gonna lay a couple things
00:22:40.620 i've sent you pictures of my like almond flour like breaded chicken nuggets back in the day
00:22:48.400 during um during uh your face the idea of those so i got the air fryer because love a love a gadget
00:22:58.440 and here's what appealed to me about it okay one using the oven to me is a whole thing okay if i'm
00:23:06.840 not in the if i'm not in the habit like there are periods where i'm like it's like casserole every
00:23:10.720 night for like three weeks and then like never again for nine months but other than that like
00:23:15.420 preheating yeah let's get real folks preheating an oven is literal hell on earth every recipe they
00:23:20.520 go preheat oven to 350 and you're like and then first of all the way it fills the kitchen with
00:23:24.420 the heat okay so in the time that i'm chopping oh yeah my oven is trash it's so old yeah no in
00:23:33.120 theory usually it's there but first of all oven temps you know you know it's a classic i felt
00:23:38.540 by the way i immediately felt bad for my oven when i said that you're not trash oh completely i what
00:23:42.760 did i feel bad for an object today that i sort of god it's exhausting i truly just got like that
00:23:48.600 really hurt calling my oven trash i don't even now i'm trying to think about how you can apologize
00:23:52.720 to the oven like by using it tonight no oh that's sort of sad though that's sort of giving tree like
00:24:00.020 now you're back for more just say i don't know what happened i was trying to be funny on the
00:24:04.880 podcast like to the oven i don't know i don't know what happened i was trying to be funny
00:24:12.740 on the podcast pretend i'm a real bitch thanks for playing along oven how's that i know yeah
00:24:17.940 you're right that's i'll do it and by the way it's true and it knows it and i can feel it 0.51
00:24:21.340 acknowledging that this is rider strong and i have a new podcast called the red weather
00:24:29.400 it was many and many a year ago in a kingdom by the sea in 1995 my neighbor anna trainer
00:24:37.560 disappeared from a commune it was hard to wrap your head around it was nature and trees and
00:24:42.540 praying and drugs no i am not your guru and back then i lied to my parents i lied to police i lied
00:24:52.020 to everybody there were years right where i could not say your name i've decided to go back to my
00:24:56.800 hometown in northern california interview my friends family talk to police journalists whomever
00:25:01.440 i can to try to find out what actually happened isn't it a little bit weird that they obsess over
00:25:06.700 hippies in the woods and not the obvious boyfriend they have had this case for 30 years i'll teach
00:25:12.580 you sons of to come around here and my wife boom boom this is the red weather listen to the red
00:25:20.340 weather on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts crook and chase
00:25:27.180 nashville chats with the coolest cat in country music he is edgy he's fun he is chase matthew
00:25:33.480 Keith Urban helped make him a global sensation last year,
00:25:36.280 but it's his recent number one hit darling that put Chase on the map
00:25:39.300 and launched a fun and difficult conversation about lovers who cheat and lie.
00:25:44.560 That's why I'm scared to get married.
00:25:45.920 You're giving me trust issues, brother.
00:25:47.460 Crook and Chase Nashville chats with Chase Matthew.
00:25:50.180 Listen and subscribe on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
00:25:53.500 or wherever you listen to podcasts.
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00:25:59.940 the number one hit true crime show that puts women right in the centre of their own stories.
00:26:06.720 I'm back with more one-off interviews with some truly kick-ass women on The Girlfriend's Spotlight. 0.96
00:26:13.720 I want to introduce you to Sylvia. 0.99
00:26:16.300 I'm going to climb this.
00:26:19.020 And then there's Vaisaka.
00:26:20.780 Let's see how we can stop killing and save lives.
00:26:24.860 Leila dared to ask the question.
00:26:27.340 Is badness hereditary?
00:26:29.400 And finally, we'll meet Rosamund.
00:26:31.520 If it wasn't for the year where Ella lived,
00:26:34.320 she wouldn't have died on that fatal night.
00:26:37.260 You'll even get to meet my mum in that one,
00:26:38.980 who I can always count on to keep my feet on the ground.
00:26:42.020 I'm not too intimidated by her.
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00:27:31.060 I really, I Googled this at night.
00:27:33.280 I really need to get in control of managing my liquids.
00:27:37.620 I've been Googling the issue of the aspiration and the thing not fully closing when you swallow and the whole thing.
00:27:43.680 And it just terrifies me.
00:27:45.120 What?
00:27:46.120 Letting the water right into your lungs?
00:27:48.240 We've talked about this.
00:27:49.200 So this is like one of the early poo, because like, how does food not go right into your lungs?
00:27:52.400 A little bit, a little.
00:27:53.860 Still don't get it.
00:27:55.420 Yes.
00:27:55.780 And by the way, I was Googling again, this very same anatomy.
00:27:59.160 And I feel like once again, I was shocked about which tube is behind which tube.
00:28:04.300 I think the food tube, this makes no sense.
00:28:07.040 Food tube is actually further back.
00:28:08.700 So you have to throw it over.
00:28:10.520 I'm pretty sure.
00:28:11.580 I'm pretty sure.
00:28:12.440 Wait, I'm going to really, really check really quick.
00:28:14.640 Okay, hold on.
00:28:15.440 What is this?
00:28:16.140 Trachea versus esophagus, maybe?
00:28:19.200 and from the side folks give it to me from the side boy god the time i spend looking at
00:28:24.400 looking at side views of anatomy you ever see the tongue in that position it's just like
00:28:29.920 ridiculous okay here we go here we go so that's the esophagus yep yep yep yep the food has to fly
00:28:36.280 past okay so there's two tubes the food has to fly past the basketball net of the trachea where 0.98
00:28:44.980 your breeze to land in the food hole and go down that path and apparently when you swallow i think
00:28:51.940 the larynx or something is supposed to yeah like cover it and i'm sorry i cannot get over that
00:28:59.860 we're made of organs or filled with them or however you want to look at it i actually had
00:29:06.120 a really really upsetting thought about organs i'm not even gonna say it yeah
00:29:10.960 i thought about like no it's too like violent i don't think i should say it
00:29:19.280 okay you want to try it and then we can cut it if if i feel you yeah yeah no it's like maybe it's
00:29:25.420 not that violent but i just was like i was imagining a human body ripped in half it was 0.88
00:29:29.440 yesterday and i was like naturally there'd be shit everywhere and is that like kind of 0.57
00:29:35.000 i'm sure people who arrive at horrific scenes where bodies are maimed and there's blood 0.94
00:29:41.900 everywhere there's got to be shit mixed in with that blood or does the colon just come out intact
00:29:46.880 spiraling into hell well well it depends let's talk about this okay so i too am very fascinated 0.98
00:29:54.460 by sort of what i think of as sort of roller coaster deaths like oh yeah the head being
00:29:59.760 ripped off midair or whatever very yeah unnatural like i remember ride playland it was like someone
00:30:05.400 stood up in the dragon coaster or whatever and the idea was that then when they went which i don't
00:30:10.000 know how you do then when they went into the tunnel you know head knocked off but anyway 0.96
00:30:13.900 not to be what else oh my god it's not really shit until the end wait what no i just i laugh 0.95
00:30:19.480 because it's like the horror of do you remember i'm sure you caught this story i probably told 0.95
00:30:25.040 do this story and this happens every you know people tragically fall you probably did people
00:30:29.960 tragically wait no no no seatbelt who told me this no no but i want to hear that wait a minute
00:30:35.660 wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute there you know people tragically fall in the subway
00:30:39.380 there's these freak things and they get caught i was talking this sounds crazy i was talking to
00:30:43.620 someone who who was there he's an older man what was the context and he was like i was there and
00:30:48.260 and this guy fell into the subway you get twisted around this crazy way along the tracksuit who's
00:30:54.080 still fully like alive and able to talk what okay and someone told me so he got hit you're saying
00:30:59.440 that and as soon as the train moves back that's when you die and this guy told me that i'm what
00:31:05.560 is the memory here oh i've seen a number of episodes like this and they like brought the
00:31:11.560 wife down to like say goodbye did you hear this i are you sure you didn't see this on 9-1-1 okay
00:31:17.420 this storyline comes up a lot in any sort of rescue episode okay oh no so like house had a
00:31:24.600 version of this and they do it a lot in like situations where someone's trapped under something
00:31:30.020 okay or pinned under some another object okay pinned between a car and a wall and then the
00:31:38.120 idea is that when we move the car that's when they're gonna die right now the car is the thing
00:31:43.280 yeah holding them together keeping the blood you know yeah yeah oh god and the second they move
00:31:50.380 it's gonna be over and the end you're saying brought the wife down the most gruesome they
00:31:56.800 break the wife down i just i just wonder often how i just really feel i i feel almost the greatest 0.98
00:32:05.060 empathy of all for people who die in quote freak accidents because how the fuck are you supposed 0.98
00:32:11.620 to maintain dignity oh god yeah you're just like screaming and the only i mean and all you can do 0.90
00:32:17.880 is laugh i mean i think that's the only that's the only you have to say something like wait
00:32:24.600 we talked about this wasn't there something or someone who died and said something cool like
00:32:29.880 there we go oh you told me this now i'm confusing it my my dad's story about the guy um what a way
00:32:35.160 to go oh what a way to go we talked about it on poog or in life because it's major in life in
00:32:41.160 life it's actually fucking major all right bring it out if you're comfortable you could obscure 0.67
00:32:46.180 the identity and obscure the injury it's a guy a man he's like having this big family dinner 0.91
00:32:56.360 he's carving a turkey oh you're giving it real good for you you don't want to you don't want
00:33:03.880 to make it into a pot roast and a um family gathered around i believe it's truly christmas
00:33:09.420 or thanksgiving something like that big ceremonial turkey everyone's been drinking a hooting hollering
00:33:14.580 he's i'm gonna cut the bird you know he's like the patriarch of the family he's hammered he takes
00:33:19.700 this big knife he's carving it along knife slips he stabs himself in the chest an electric knife
00:33:25.980 what electric carver an electric carver right or did i make it electric i don't think so maybe you
00:33:32.040 made it electric and they're out in the country somewhere like the nearest you know you really
00:33:38.280 have to like yeah oh i'll be here in an hour and he bled out and he died and he was as he was dying
00:33:45.180 he was laughing and saying what a way to go what a way to go and it's one of my most formative tales
00:33:50.400 that my father ever told me i just i felt that and my dad telling it it's a great tale but it's 0.84
00:33:55.680 like down to my lower bones i just felt that in my fucking pelvis i know i know and it also is 0.91
00:34:01.400 oh yeah it's it's misty but you know he died i mean the dream is to die at the dinner party of 0.97
00:34:07.300 course but surrounded with his family and having a great time no it's so essential to that's why
00:34:14.220 it's just so hard like a freak accident that doesn't give you the minute to laugh to reflect
00:34:20.780 on it that it's really happening yeah that's the true nightmare to be able to make a crack to the
00:34:25.400 others there's something like for you not to get to have the humor for you not to register the
00:34:31.660 humor i'd want to be like i want you all to laugh at this yes right right yeah no you need this is
00:34:39.120 hysterical make no mistake i don't know i just so many other forms of death have a kind of dignity
00:34:47.440 baked in you know what i mean like right any anticipated death has a kind of you know i don't
00:34:53.380 know i'm hypothesizing i'm obviously not coming up with it all but almost like the freak accident
00:34:58.580 pushing towards comical accident yeah i don't know if you don't get a chance to laugh at it
00:35:06.220 and and you don't get to give the chance to give other permission to laugh at it
00:35:10.600 sucks yeah the freak accident do you know many freak accidents
00:35:16.540 freak like like like what i just described as a true freak accident right it's like the the person 0.99
00:35:22.060 who um that's pretty close i'd say oh but the shit thing there it's a six feet under the six 0.94
00:35:27.660 feet under death right oh that's a great one yeah god i i was really six feet under also locked in 0.97
00:35:35.320 a lot of like hey let's show you how this could happen so that you understand that it could
00:35:39.160 happen i remember like yelling at my dad because he did that thing where he sort of like puts on
00:35:44.000 the brake of the car but he opens the door to the car leans out grab the newspaper with his hand
00:35:47.700 or whatever yeah talking about yeah and i'm like haven't you seen six feet under yeah that's a good
00:35:54.400 six feet under death well one thing that i know we've talked about this on poog but my absolute
00:35:58.120 thing and maybe i'll save a life by saying this do not stick a metal appliance in an active toaster
00:36:04.540 to fish your bread out oh right we covered that it's so funny you saw that happening and i was
00:36:09.700 kind of like i feel like i've done that everyone yes a knife like the same knife you're buttering
00:36:15.340 the bagel with you're like reaching in for another one it's like i don't know it's just
00:36:24.400 you know there's it's like there's just no control on the way out certainly there's no
00:36:29.620 control in the way you know the way you at least you're half conscious or whatever or you're you 0.99
00:36:33.560 know you're a blithering fool baby yeah you have no idea what you're getting into just squeeze oh 1.00
00:36:39.520 wait but you think about shit it's not like the entire body's filled with shit right and it's not 1.00
00:36:44.360 even shit the whole way down it's not like the entire viscera or whatever right yeah it's full 1.00
00:36:50.200 of shit it only really 0.99
00:36:51.800 becomes it it's in a little pouch at the 1.00
00:36:54.080 very end
00:36:54.800 because that's
00:36:58.160 when the final water is
00:36:59.880 pulled out of it or whatever
00:37:01.040 it's not like it's
00:37:04.040 you're repulsed yeah
00:37:05.720 kinda
00:37:06.060 this is
00:37:10.040 Ryder Strong and I have a new podcast called
00:37:12.180 The Red Weather
00:37:12.900 it was many and many a year
00:37:16.040 ago in a kingdom by the sea
00:37:18.780 In 1995, my neighbor, Anna Trainor, disappeared from a commune.
00:37:22.620 It was hard to wrap your head around.
00:37:23.960 It was nature and trees and praying and drugs.
00:37:27.600 No, I am not your guru.
00:37:31.360 And back then, I lied to my parents.
00:37:34.000 I lied to police.
00:37:35.260 I lied to everybody.
00:37:36.260 There were years right where I could not say your name.
00:37:39.220 I've decided to go back to my hometown in Northern California,
00:37:41.660 interview my friends, family, talk to police, journalists,
00:37:44.720 whomever I can to try to find out what actually happened.
00:37:48.060 Isn't it a little bit weird that they obsess over hippies in the woods and not the obvious boyfriend?
00:37:52.660 They have had this case for 30 years. 1.00
00:37:55.580 I'll teach you sons of bitches. Come around here and my wife. 1.00
00:37:58.620 Boom. Boom. This is The Red Weather. 1.00
00:38:02.920 Listen to The Red Weather on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
00:38:09.840 Crook and Chase Nashville chats with the coolest cat in country music.
00:38:13.740 He is edgy. He's fun. He is Chase Matthews.
00:38:17.060 Keith Urban helped make him a global sensation last year,
00:38:19.820 but it's his recent number one hit, Darling, that put Chase on the map
00:38:22.820 and launched a fun and difficult conversation about lovers who cheat and lie.
00:38:28.080 That's why I'm scared to get married. You're giving me trust issues, brother.
00:38:30.980 Crook and Chase Nashville Chats with Chase Matthew.
00:38:33.360 Listen and subscribe on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts.
00:38:40.320 Hello, it's me, Anna Sinfield, from The Girlfriends,
00:38:43.480 the number one hit true crime show that puts women right in the centre of their own stories.
00:38:50.240 I'm back with more one-off interviews with some truly kick-ass women on The Girlfriend's Spotlight. 0.96
00:38:57.240 I want to introduce you to Sylvia. 0.99
00:38:59.820 I'm going to climb this.
00:39:02.540 And then there's Vaisaka.
00:39:04.300 Let's see how we can stop killing and save lives.
00:39:08.400 Leila dared to ask the question.
00:39:10.900 Is badness hereditary?
00:39:12.920 And finally, we'll meet Rosamund.
00:39:15.040 If it wasn't for the year where Ella lived,
00:39:17.860 she wouldn't have died on that fatal night.
00:39:20.780 You'll even get to meet my mum in that one,
00:39:22.520 who I can always count on to keep my feet on the ground.
00:39:25.520 I'm not too intimidated by her.
00:39:26.960 What are you talking about? 1.00
00:39:29.920 Listen to The Girlfriend Spotlight
00:39:31.720 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
00:39:34.260 or wherever you get your podcasts.
00:39:42.380 you know i had a realization the other day i thought you'd enjoy
00:39:47.260 every single day that passes you're closer to christmas than you were the day before
00:39:52.080 now i feel like most people don't think that way okay because what they think about is
00:39:57.560 you know halfway through the year right and they go oh now we're closer to this coming christmas
00:40:02.340 than we are close to the one we just right just did but in fact you're literally always in a state
00:40:09.540 of moving towards you're closer to christmas than you were now i guess that the problem will
00:40:13.700 be death is also the truth right the eye of the storm that's why that's that's why christmas
00:40:18.440 itself is filled with such pain such pathos and such impossible grief i mean the question of
00:40:23.620 whether or not us right now okay in springtime what value would it have for us to start thinking
00:40:29.720 about christmas now think about how we're going to approach it right because you got to do it now
00:40:33.940 if you're going to send out cards for the holiday season i mean let's get real you got to plan that
00:40:40.340 now yeah totally you got to set the intention now have you ever sent out a holiday card of any kind
00:40:45.340 what do you think no yeah no my parents once my because you know thing of like a family photos
00:40:54.520 being sent out every year oh and my mom was always gripped with shame like we're not like the other
00:40:59.140 family's like i you know like she wanted she get cards or what did they know anyone who would send
00:41:04.980 out the letters you know the letters are in our family oh the letters by the way so don't call
00:41:12.740 the feds on me but i open mail that's not mine no but like sometimes you get like a it comes to
00:41:20.220 your house you mean like a letter and it's like two and it's my address but it's like a name that's
00:41:24.700 like rentals just like a past name it's no yeah it's like bob yeah it's a previous uh person
00:41:30.760 previous beyond though because i know who lived here for like right it's a way old i mean this
00:41:36.520 house is very old but anyway i rip into it and it's one of these newsletters and it's like you
00:41:42.340 know brian is still at the water factory or whatever you know it's like he and sue got a dog
00:41:52.940 you know eric is studying business at tufts and um got a dog too i mean everyone has a right to do
00:42:00.720 whatever the hell they want of course and everyone has a right to participate in things that the
00:42:05.020 people they know are also participating in so if you're in a thing where everyone in your you know
00:42:10.100 your friends and family all do this and i get it by the way that's it sounds like i was filled with
00:42:14.200 disdain i understand the it's also pre-social media like really that's a relic of the past
00:42:19.760 it's like that is no longer that's antiquated technology the letter sadly yes and some would
00:42:26.900 say that for it to still be sent out is a gorgeous nod to what we've lost yeah you know yeah like
00:42:35.080 we saw the dog on facebook already yeah yeah you know what i mean trouble those letters for me is
00:42:41.540 just it is a presentation it is a in no uncertain terms presentation of what the what the person
00:42:49.520 finds valuable and brag worthy right right of course and so it's a performance of values almost
00:42:56.280 over the information itself yes yes okay so they're proud they see these as positives you
00:43:04.180 know what i mean yeah it's like what's like my newsletter my newsletter is going to be about
00:43:10.460 kate discovered b12 liquid b12 i mean i get the word out i cannot but i can't wait to
00:43:16.160 here's my question do you think i wonder if i should take some tonight i have this weird
00:43:20.960 thing now and this is not based in science where i'm like because this next week is going to be
00:43:25.380 so intense i need to have energy yes it's not going to dilute the power of it to take it every
00:43:30.640 day right do you know what i mean i have this weird magical thinking where is where is there
00:43:36.000 the drug the drug fears set in yeah you know what i mean like the yeah oh this is doing something
00:43:42.560 magical to me do i need to like keep my tolerance low so it'll blast me into the ether again
00:43:46.800 yeah drugs sort of optimization yeah the fear of uh yeah the fear of the adjustment
00:43:53.160 to the new vibration of energy and that like in a week you won't even notice because that'll be
00:43:58.620 your new energy level and you have tragic maybe not i'm thinking about seriously getting into a
00:44:06.540 jet lag based schedule of where you do the thing where you move yourself slowly hour by hour towards
00:44:12.200 the place you're gonna go next wait oh whoa so if you're going somewhere that's 10 hours ahead
00:44:19.040 i'm thinking about becoming one of these jet lag oh god i read this thing i was i was searching
00:44:25.060 for jet lag stuff and like how to i feel like my dad did this when he had some like trip around
00:44:29.600 the world or something and i feel like he painstakingly over the two weeks before the
00:44:33.680 thing like moved his bedtime you know like an hour an hour an hour whatever something like that
00:44:38.300 Jesus. Okay, I'm interested. Then I was Googling like this thing and I read this guy's article.
00:44:42.640 He's like, you're not going to like it. And I was like, I'm sure I'll be fine with moving
00:44:46.380 her out. Like, oh, it takes effort. He was talking about flying from somewhere New York
00:44:50.260 to London a lot, like twice a week. Yeah. And he's like, you know, you fly and it's
00:44:54.280 going east as a beast. Okay. It's like the thing. Oh, west is
00:44:58.300 the best. You know, it's better to go from New York to L.A. Yeah. When you go to New York
00:45:02.240 to L.A., then you get to like wake up early and feel fantastic. I know, it feels so good.
00:45:05.820 so you go east and he's like okay you get on that flight you want to try to sleep
00:45:10.240 he's like stop eating at 2 p.m oh yeah good luck and then he's like head to the thing
00:45:16.460 don't you dare have a cocktail on that plane right of course he's like drink water do not
00:45:23.300 interrupt your sleep for meal service okay everyone else is going to come off the plane
00:45:27.880 bloated it's true uh whatever it's true okay and then he's like get off the plane he's like
00:45:33.140 and if you're starving in the morning you can have a little bit of tea oh god and then he's
00:45:39.580 like and then get yourself to whatever and sit there in the blinding sun to kick off the you
00:45:46.060 know the circadian rhythm and then have your meal and that's gonna be hard for me that kind of
00:45:53.360 approach a food-based circadian and he's like circadian rhythm is based on food i'm like no
00:45:57.940 maybe but let's get real light is where it's at isn't it light yeah i was gonna say see that's
00:46:03.060 the thing that because i'm flying tomorrow to new york which you know five hour flight it's not bad
00:46:07.760 yeah but it's a long time to not eat and i do know that everyone will tell you don't eat on a plane
00:46:14.660 that it yeah that it bloats you if you already have digestion issues it will it's just but it's
00:46:20.160 all you got up there it's literally all you got there but it's like what do we but here's the
00:46:24.580 thing we have to fucking live and it's always it's a chair it's just a chair like you can't 0.82
00:46:29.780 you need to have food i will not be in a chair i will not be stuck in a chair without access to 0.98
00:46:36.560 food i remember this this an instagram account that i used to like self mutilate with yeah at
00:46:43.140 this point years years ago she was like this wellness i have to say i was looking back at
00:46:48.480 all this old stuff like from 10 years ago and i i just saw all this i was obsessed then with like
00:46:55.400 kombucha yeah and this kind of health woman this like who then like recovered from orthorexia
00:47:03.180 what's ortho bone rexia no orthorexia is is the obsession with like 1.00
00:47:11.000 food purity kind of obsession with eating the right thing oh because ortho means or ortho means
00:47:18.100 like healing or something right because orthotics or orthodontist yeah i mean and a lot of people
00:47:24.300 of course use like wellness obviously as like a gorgeous gateway to anorexia or as like a way to
00:47:30.340 like yeah restrict to the point of hell but yeah every tool is a weapon if you hold it right says 0.98
00:47:36.620 annie defranco oh wow i mean and it's just i mean absolutely nothing is safe anyway she she was like
00:47:45.340 she would do these posts where she i remember one she was like i stay away from sugar but like once
00:47:51.400 a year I'll have dessert like I'm not joking she'd be like about once a year twice a year like I will
00:47:56.560 indulge and it was like a photograph of this vegan gluten-free brownie and that was her big
00:48:01.760 treat and it was devastating to see and then I remember it was that woman that also was really
00:48:06.880 obsessed with never eating on a plane and I remember she took this like I was tracking her
00:48:11.600 I was following her so like knew what her life was and she was going to Europe yeah she didn't
00:48:14.840 eat on the plane it was like a 10 hour or something flight disturbing and then she was
00:48:19.660 like don't worry everyone i made like bliss balls so that when i land i know it's like i'm rolling
00:48:26.580 my eyes despite like and it like went in this place in my brain still talking about it well
00:48:33.600 i must have brought this up but i remember once a tip in a magazine that's just you know like
00:48:38.420 clearly they didn't even think to hide the sort of derangement of it which was like when you're
00:48:43.140 craving that cupcake you're just looking at that cupcake they're like imagine a big fly no
00:48:49.180 a big fly just stuck in that ice in that icing no and that's very like sad right because
00:48:58.120 to me what that's saying is that the thing is so bad right so bad so bad for you such an absolute
00:49:04.900 avoidance that you should at any cost it would almost be like look at the cupcake and pretend
00:49:10.600 that cupcake killed your your dear friend yeah look at that icing that's the very icing I mean
00:49:16.880 i mean killed it like a murderer yeah uh like just something horrifying right and it's so and yet
00:49:23.160 i don't actually have a problem and as do you with someone whatever choosing to not eat sugar
00:49:29.100 choosing whatever whatever i it's just there's something about the performance and the presentation
00:49:33.900 of it to others and going like here's how i make it work well it's the things i remember reading 0.92
00:49:39.280 in a magazine i mean the magazines that we used to consume the cosmos and the the shit that was 0.98
00:49:44.500 in there is wild and i was obsessed with reading about sex obviously and like it was all like sex 0.98
00:49:50.200 oh yeah and i remember there was an interview with christina ricci and she was like because
00:49:55.880 of course it's all like the celebrity diets like how you know and it's all like lean protein and
00:50:00.760 nuts you know it's like all like like you would like read the diets and these are all like fake
00:50:05.160 brown rice and fish yeah yeah and i remember a couple things that like went in there i remember
00:50:09.120 christina aguilera's christina aguilera's nutritionist was like christina will have a
00:50:14.200 burger but she can't have the fries oh my god i like if you're gonna have the burger like you
00:50:19.020 can't have the fries and then i remember christina ricci talking about how if she's really i think
00:50:23.700 i've even said this on poog where she's like i feel like it just might be like oh oh one but i
00:50:27.600 need to hear it again yeah i have a sweet tooth but like if i'm craving a sugary treat i'll just
00:50:32.620 have a pickle instead oh right right right right usually satiate it and i was like probably read
00:50:38.280 that when I was like 12 or 13 or something and I was like it continues to ricochet as we would say
00:50:44.340 and I just it's like yeah I want to be clear okay if we were a lesser podcast
00:50:51.460 okay if we were lesser women right yeah I feel like it would be like it would be sort of just
00:50:57.440 this simplistic kind of thing of us just being like come on like live or something right yeah
00:51:03.040 that's not it right because it's like you're allowed to not want to eat sugar you're allowed 0.99
00:51:07.400 to have done the research and say, I'm not going to eat fucking sugar. You're allowed to have a 0.98
00:51:11.420 crazy, you know, whatever. Judgment free zone. No, I listen, Mark Hyman, that also gets me off 0.96
00:51:22.240 like that. I know that I'm never going to restrict myself from having anything really
00:51:27.760 in that way, in that regard. I'm also blessed with the composition where I don't have like
00:51:32.580 a food allergy right and so i see like yeah understanding like optimization and like
00:51:38.120 having pumpkin seeds and salmon and mackerel mackerel i know it sounds great and all of this
00:51:44.560 and that's what your your life revolves around mackerel oily and flavorful so i just go there
00:51:49.880 well as mark says as mark hyman says a fat salad which is a salad loaded with omega-3s
00:51:56.580 nuts oils i mean divine i love that food i love a mediterranean approach but
00:52:03.040 i i respect the fat salad approach yeah or like this isn't just like come on live a little yeah
00:52:11.980 yeah you know like or something it's not just no there's holiness and that's disrespectful to 0.98
00:52:17.080 i am you know i am a suen bitch 0.80
00:52:23.040 or well well no i was gonna say like i am i love all kinds of food okay i love eating i like will 0.95
00:52:32.780 die to eat yes you know what i mean i live to eat not eat to live whatever all of that
00:52:37.980 and it's even something that people especially women sort of can performatively wear their love
00:52:44.540 of food to show that they're like fucking radical thing like i'm not ashamed to like love to eat
00:52:49.500 whatever so i recognize all that and so that's obviously a big part of me and then there's also
00:52:55.220 like me on the side reading about like okay here's what sugar's doing to me and whatever and whatever
00:52:59.560 and then there becomes kind of the like what what am i willing to put out there because
00:53:03.900 in the wrong hands or in the wrong like 12 year old's eyes yeah of course the wrong 12 year old
00:53:09.560 yeah right and that's where like you're almost go you know if you're being interviewed in the
00:53:15.460 magazine are you gonna well I don't know this is the trouble with if someone poses a question
00:53:20.540 you're like am I gonna tell them that yeah actually I'm modifying my consumption of sugar
00:53:25.620 because like like is it the message I want fucking out there I don't know it's like so then so then
00:53:29.380 you're just privately doing it well it's also the thing of like Kelly Ripa you know there's this 0.96
00:53:33.660 like semi-viral video maybe viral in my life where um it's like harper's bazaar has this
00:53:39.660 youtube channel whatever it's like what i eat in a day and it's celebrities being like here's what
00:53:43.820 i eat in a day and kelly ripa did it and everyone was like shocked because it's like she has like
00:53:47.980 four cashews and that's it oh wow you know it's like and of course anyone can watch that and i
00:53:54.600 believe there's been a lot of people talking over the video and like endless trigger warnings and
00:53:59.520 and all of this and it's like right first of all kelly ripa i don't know about i don't know about
00:54:04.100 what her show was but i'm pretty sure she was waking up like 4 a.m every day to do it right
00:54:07.600 she's like an early morning like yeah like regis and kelly no i think if you're on camera 5 a.m
00:54:12.840 every yeah of course regis and kelly god they had chemistry i was a child and i knew it and i felt
00:54:17.940 it really just and kathy though right but then it became regis and kelly i think right i loved i
00:54:24.220 fucking loved them I could have it wrong the what Regis and Kathy yeah that was the original
00:54:30.560 yeah and then kind of left and then Regis and Kelly and then it was Regis and Kelly and I was 0.98
00:54:34.340 like well I was like she has big shoes to fill and then I was like it's electric anyway I would
00:54:40.400 love to re-watch some episodes and you don't do that tonight it could be really or just to do a
00:54:45.020 quick YouTube anyway so there she is waking up at 4 a.m to do that and I'm like no I understand why 1.00
00:54:51.480 she's probably subsisting on like coffee mct oil because she has to be in like a little suit 1.00
00:54:56.260 just to be like she's been high heels in a suit bloatation bloatation will not be tolerated by 1.00
00:55:03.040 the producers to have like a smile i'm not even talking about bloating i'm talking about like
00:55:06.600 you have to be so supercharged and on and like high as a kite you know right you have to be like
00:55:13.720 a like just this live wire and i'm not saying that only eating cashews is the way to get there
00:55:18.400 I'm just saying that like yeah I cannot fathom that life and that routine and that lifestyle so
00:55:23.600 I'm kind of like no you've left the human realm we've talked about this before it's like these
00:55:27.700 kinds of celebrities or pop stars they've left the realm of humanity so you cannot you cannot
00:55:31.380 look at them and live your life as if you are one of them you do not live among them and be and be
00:55:36.860 happy for it are you on tour are you doing national stadiums are you right are you dancing every night
00:55:43.620 are you robin like are you christina aguilera right no live as such those what i eat in a day
00:55:50.140 things to me the issue with them is it's saying like hey what did you what are your bowel movements
00:55:58.540 like today and it's like okay well i'm gonna filter this yeah something's so intimate is what
00:56:04.660 you eat to me like anyone who could answer that without oh my god you know without a major to be 0.99
00:56:10.800 able to go through a day it's like what do you jerk off to what do you jerk off to like what 0.99
00:56:16.000 gets you off it's like it's completely but and how do you even go about a day knowing that today 0.87
00:56:23.380 is the day you're logging it you know how they're like a dietitian like log your food and don't even
00:56:28.220 change anything yet just like log what you eat and become aware infant instantly it changes it
00:56:35.060 of course it does i had okay so hang on i know we're kind of talking about and of course like
00:56:38.440 we punish ourselves with food or you know this is like very fraught territory what we're talking
00:56:43.100 about but i had a friend who went to was paying like a really expensive nutritionist because she 0.96
00:56:48.320 had so all these gut issues and like all the shit and she started seeing this woman who of course 1.00
00:56:52.800 put her on this protocol which is unlivable and fascistic and like yeah only ever like start the 0.99
00:56:59.460 day with rot with like arugula with a squeeze of lemon under no circumstance you know just
00:57:03.220 hell just absolute hell and i also want to say obviously people who are dealing with like chronic
00:57:07.840 illness I understand the desperation of just like oh yeah yeah and my friend was sort of at that
00:57:12.600 point but then this woman had her doing the food log and had her food combining getting really
00:57:16.740 fucking obsessed with it and I was like you know major alarms going off and at one point my friend
00:57:22.260 said to her like I followed the protocol for two weeks whatever and she's like I feel hungry she's 0.96
00:57:26.800 like I'm really feeling like I'm hungry and the nutritionist was like maybe that's a feeling of
00:57:31.680 lightness that you need to adjust to no yeah oh jesus i told her get out now she's like i already
00:57:39.060 paid for like the sessions i'm like oh my god i don't know there's something about the term
00:57:45.480 nutritionist that i bristle at a little bit yeah because i guess it's sort of like yeah and they
00:57:54.100 sent her to a nutritionist okay there's this quality of there's this patron it reminds me
00:57:59.020 of when they tell you that they're gonna let's review brush and flossing technique at the dentist
00:58:03.540 let me see how you're flossing yeah okay then you know and they're doing it's like see how you're
00:58:08.780 actually like sawing at the gum line or whatever yeah there's something patronizing in like i don't
00:58:14.000 know i'm imagining i'm a talk show host and like the producers are gonna fire me unless i lose 10
00:58:19.460 or something right the classic that scene in a movie whatever right we've seen and then and then
00:58:25.200 like they and they sent her to a nutritionist what i find so like rude about the like we're
00:58:30.020 sending you a nutritionist what am i trying to say i feel like nutritionist becomes euphemistic
00:58:34.200 for like lows the weight okay of course and then they try to act like so yeah actually we
00:58:38.920 we're gonna get you like we're gonna get you the nutrients you need like it implies like you've 0.98
00:58:44.620 been eating like cardboard and donuts that's it and you're this fool and as though like the 0.98
00:58:50.600 the issue at hand is like that you're like not getting enough nutrient. 0.99
00:58:54.760 I just find the nutrient. Yeah. Yeah. It's a slippery version of food,
00:58:59.320 kind of willfully denying that food for many of us is one of the only
00:59:07.580 pleasures. You know what I mean? Like, well, that's the thing. Pleasure,
00:59:11.640 the pleasure. We live in a, you know, an anti-pleasure society.
00:59:15.700 it just it just makes me so happy you know i love eating and i just i love that it has to happen
00:59:24.960 every day what are you gonna have for dinner i'm not sure i have to i'm actually thinking of
00:59:34.020 i'm thinking about treating my oven to a yam making up for i never told you all right let's
00:59:39.040 let's do a little air fryer and then we'll go oh yeah oh my god told you about air fryer let's go
00:59:42.620 so we got into ovens whatever so so air fryers people like love to point out like well you know
00:59:48.560 it's just a convection oven okay and like because it's just moving air around something to cook it
00:59:54.280 right whatever and i'm like yes i do but it's countertop and it's shaped like a little robot
00:59:58.120 and there's a basket and it's just a completely different experience and it's fun to drop
01:00:03.040 something in and shake it i saw somebody cooking salmon in it you can you can cook like anything
01:00:07.960 in it i like it because i like to do things like throw a bunch of broccoli and like you know spritz
01:00:13.460 the olive oil on the broccoli yeah okay a little salt and pepper throw it in the air fryer a couple
01:00:18.460 minutes crisps up and then it's delicious it's just like you just throw things in the air fryer
01:00:24.160 oh my god sublime and then i've even there's no room for my toaster right now and so i've just
01:00:31.300 been making toast in that baby throwing two pieces in loose oh what kind of toast and
01:00:37.060 it's that incredible
01:00:39.400 uprising company, that uprising
01:00:41.840 bread that makes the crackers that I
01:00:44.080 told you about. Yeah. We never even talked about
01:00:46.060 the crackers. Yeah.
01:00:47.880 We ate them in the night together on a bed.
01:00:50.360 Sensational. Jacqueline fed me these crackers
01:00:52.040 and she said, she goes,
01:00:54.120 you might not like these, like they're keto,
01:00:56.040 like you might not be so into them.
01:00:58.120 These are for people who are not on grain,
01:01:00.020 so it's nearly impossible
01:01:01.800 to get a good cracker. No, no.
01:01:03.700 I was like, I'm interested. I enjoy
01:01:05.720 a greenless cracker she proceeds to pop open a bag of these babies they're pumpernickel or rye
01:01:11.580 pumpernickel kind of a combo i experienced them as such they kind of i think they just
01:01:17.580 call them rye i when i tell you one of the best crackers i've ever had i know i was in love with
01:01:26.760 them i've thought of them since i need to buy them what's going on i need to buy them i think
01:01:30.520 i tried to tell you to because they're they're prohibitively expensive that's the gag yeah yeah
01:01:35.360 so how much they're laughably expensive i can't even remember i i i have never seen them at
01:01:40.620 airline they're not there i think they're still only online looking i i mean i was completely 0.99
01:01:47.680 unbelievably but to me i mean you know what they they're kind of like you know those like mixed
01:01:56.160 cracker party mix bags mix checks mix have this i'm trying to remember checks mix had them
01:02:02.200 like the little rye cracker thing okay okay this is a perfect way to describe the cracker
01:02:06.660 okay ding ding ding the little rye cracker in the chex mix that's what these are yeah i mean
01:02:14.680 god okay hang on so they're so good i just had some so they're filled with they've got psyllium
01:02:20.600 husk egg white one of the other i'm trying to think i don't think it was almond flour maybe
01:02:25.200 it was almond flour. Exiotocin free. What's exiotocin? Oh, I know. And I have no clue
01:02:32.260 what it is. And you're like, okay. You're like, great. And they say it's going to heal your gut
01:02:37.100 too. No, I'm really confused at what, because I'm seeing here, it says starter pack is 40 bucks,
01:02:42.780 but I'm like, wait, how many goddamn crackers is that? What's in there? And you're definitely, 0.95
01:02:47.800 because the starter pack might include both bread and whatever. We're like full ad for uprising,
01:02:51.700 but they're prohibitively expensive however the ingredients are on the thing and there are
01:02:57.000 infinite websites with with similar recipes so you know no yeah of course you can make your own
01:03:03.040 that's a real air fryer recipe you you can make your own i mean you have to you gotta get your
01:03:07.780 psyllium husk you gotta get your whatever your entire life but you can make your own you gotta
01:03:11.580 get your egg whites so so you're into the bread i think you can make your own it's just yeah it's
01:03:16.420 very similar to the thing it it toasts well it's it's so far it's the best of someone trying to do
01:03:21.960 the impossible and doing it and create a brain so i've been just having toast with cream cheese 0.90
01:03:27.160 and olives and salt and pepper and a little drizzle of olive oil i'd have to just goddamn 0.85
01:03:32.340 buy this starter pack not even knowing like i like don't understand how many crackers well
01:03:37.540 there's the little bags and there's the big it says 20 servings remember we had a little bag and
01:03:42.160 a big bag i think the servings refer to the little bags i'm on stage in an hour and 10 minutes so i
01:03:49.140 gotta go oh my god sorry sorry sorry i got distracted by the uprising price with shipping
01:03:55.160 okay listen i love you're gonna have a great show i got distracted i love you too
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