Rowan & Pine: A Feminist Folklore & Mythology Podcast - Episode Twenty-Six： House Spirits Pt.2 - Ominous Bucket

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00:01:01.640 recording from my blue snowball microphone so that's good good november good vember from me

00:01:13.460 and mamaly here we just had to put off like recording like three separate goes because

00:01:22.400 emily had different mom stuff to do i'm saying i'm saying mom for her benefit here oh oh it's 0.84

00:01:28.900 it's adorable because she's like i have a pie in the oven the baby needs to take a nap

00:01:34.980 she's like a 50s housewife over here yeah pretty much i feel like it honestly 0.98

00:01:41.240 i made cranberry sauce i made a pumpkin pie holy shit yeah look out everyone 0.73

00:01:48.320 yeah it's uh the day before thanksgiving when we're recording this so that's why it's not just 0.82

00:01:54.680 like a random tuesday yeah yeah yeah no it is the day before thanksgiving

00:01:59.480 just making modardo a gin and tonic for when he gets home from work

00:02:03.440 he wishes

00:02:07.900 he would probably be so confused if you greeted him with a drink at the door yeah i was gonna say

00:02:15.460 he'd be confused if it was a gin and tonic

00:02:17.400 if it was something else maybe not as

00:02:19.460 confused but yeah he would

00:02:21.540 probably be like wait what is this

00:02:23.540 for are you poisoning

00:02:25.400 me has the day finally

00:02:27.520 come

00:02:28.000 today you and

00:02:33.420 came home from work expecting dinner to be made

00:02:35.400 but I was just eating my own dinner

00:02:37.020 and he was like what did you

00:02:38.480 he was like what did you make me

00:02:41.280 and I was like I didn't make you anything because you didn't put

00:02:43.360 away the toastie maker after your lunch so

00:02:45.100 oh i've told you gotta lay down the law so funny oh my god it sounds like i'm being petty but it's

00:02:57.120 literally been about 15 times at this stage that i've asked him to just i'll make your lunch just

00:03:01.660 clean up after yourself yeah now then so now you have to take matters into your own hands

00:03:09.620 yeah and do petty things and then feel bad about them when i do them but still need to stick to my

00:03:14.220 don't that's what we had a we had a thing where i had to like set better boundaries because i'm

00:03:21.080 really bad at being a people pleaser and bad at like i'm like yeah it's fine i'll do it it's it's

00:03:26.980 fine and um so then my therapist was like you need to set boundaries and stick to them i'm like

00:03:33.880 okay so then the one day i did and madardo was like mad about it and he's kind of like huffing

00:03:39.400 and puffing and like in my head i'm like just it's okay just give in and i'm like don't give it

00:03:43.140 don't give it and then i boundary yeah and then um because madardo also sees the same therapist

00:03:51.420 he sees us like as a couple and separately and um carrying out my dirty laundry no madardo was

00:03:59.000 talking about how he was mad about it he was like he was like yeah and she like won't let me do this

00:04:04.580 thing and then my therapist was like she's setting boundaries and he's like it's like oh i mean he's

00:04:10.620 like that's my fault he's like i mean i'm proud of her but i was also mad for myself

00:04:16.420 boundaries are only okay when it's for other people right

00:04:23.420 oh my gosh so yeah that's fun i love i love stuff like that it's it's just so funny to me how

00:04:32.640 people think that you're gonna go into a marriage and it's gonna be like magical and fun and

00:04:37.100 romantic and all these wonderful things when it's just like no i didn't make your dinner

00:04:43.400 because you didn't put the thing away yeah well like the thing is right you you marry your best

00:04:50.480 friend and like i genuinely did like he is like my best friend in the world yeah but uh he also

00:04:58.180 drives me absolutely nuts and what i think is really funny is this whole trend of like

00:05:03.580 somebody will like share something that their significant other has done and it's something

00:05:08.320 like kind of innocuous and then you'll get all these comments going that's abusive you should

00:05:13.560 leave him you're like whoa right okay sometimes it is but a lot of times it's no it's just like

00:05:22.480 an oversight like people are their own everyone's their own person yeah we all come we all come to 0.99

00:05:27.920 a relationship with shit that's what i say i'm like we all have our shit we come together and 0.98

00:05:33.880 we have to deal with each other's shit and try to fix it and try to like work with each other 0.99

00:05:38.200 yeah man this got deep like less than five minutes in huh i was gonna say 0.98

00:05:43.300 welcome to ronan pine psychology version today relationship advice

00:05:48.160 yeah emily emily gives me lessons from her therapy because i do not attend therapy because

00:05:55.980 i'm irish and it's not part of our culture even though i should yeah have you seen the um it's

00:06:02.400 basically like they're calling it like trickle down therapy where like your friend goes to

00:06:06.060 therapy then they just give you all the advice and stuff that they learn

00:06:10.160 i like that it's cost saving yeah my therapist was actually telling me like one of the last

00:06:17.840 times i was in he was like explaining something to me that was like not super related to what

00:06:24.520 we were talking about and he was like by the end of therapy with me you're gonna have a master's

00:06:29.080 degree you will be an honorary therapist you'll be a good therapist i'm like it kind of feels that

00:06:36.500 way yeah yeah because well what is it was it freud that said that irish are impossible to 0.99

00:06:45.240 psychoanalyze i don't know what i mean it's because we're stupid or like we're just we're 0.90

00:06:50.460 really good at denial it's like trying to synchronize a chimp he's like they're so far 0.97

00:06:59.240 gone like i can't even tell what's what's not authentic versus yeah they're so sarcastic and 0.99

00:07:07.060 repressed we can't yeah we can't break through that it would take years just to get there

00:07:11.280 yeah repressed beyond repressed yeah uh you're listening to part two of house spirits

00:07:19.060 um we had to take a break after part one because emily has outdone herself with her research i

00:07:26.740 have and um she has so much more to tell you lucky you and lucky me also really funny that

00:07:34.260 we started the episode talking about how like oh i'm just being a mom and then we're talking about

00:07:38.440 house spirits i'm like my own house spirit i'm like oh emily hovers above the fireplace

00:07:45.380 glaring at people he's just like hunched over the fireplace if i had a fireplace i would do that

00:07:51.480 fireplace awake all night like sweeping up stuff also i just want to point out the fact that

00:07:57.840 we got multiple messages from multiple different people about the i'll get in your van witchy woman

00:08:04.240 and i just want to say that i'm so thankful it wasn't me who thought that was hilarious

00:08:12.280 i did not think it was that funny but that's that's nice to know yeah you're really funny

00:08:17.500 we need to ever have that though like you make a joke and like other people think it's hilarious

00:08:22.680 you're like it was that funny yeah it'll be just kind of like a thought and then it's like

00:08:27.340 yeah people are guffawing and i'm like oh and you're like yeah i meant to say that like that

00:08:34.120 yeah but based on this podcast people probably don't think i'm funny but that you're the funny

00:08:38.960 one now you are dry humor you're like what have i said a daria character

00:08:45.000 if you think daria is funny you'll like emily

00:08:50.600 terrible the very first time i ever heard emily's voice she sent me a voice clip and i was like wow

00:08:58.420 she sounds like she sounds like she's way too cool to be talking to me

00:09:02.100 i remember that because it was in like our group chat and it was everybody was like wow you sound

00:09:08.120 like the cool girl and i was like what i okay i don't hear it at all but oh take it funny

00:09:15.520 yeah i guess i'll take it i would do it okay do i sound like i look um well i can't i can't

00:09:24.180 detach your face you cannot do it no ask our listeners do we sound like we look because there

00:09:30.980 are like pictures buried of us and we you can see our lives of our reels yeah on but do you ever see

00:09:38.420 that when like your list you're used to listening to a podcast and then you see the hosts talking

00:09:42.860 on a video and you're like whoa it's so weird to see their voice coming out of a face yeah it's

00:09:48.900 very weird especially when a lot of podcasts i'll listen to them for a while and then i'll

00:09:54.680 search search them on social media and then i see their faces and i'm like wait this is what you

00:09:59.920 look like yeah and then some of them are almost impossible to find like michael hobbs from um

00:10:06.220 maintenance phase and you're wrong about i had to dig to find out what he looked like because he

00:10:10.520 made like some reference to how he looks and i was like what i was like i want to see how he looks

00:10:15.720 and then i like i tell like dig there's like no photos of him anywhere i need to know what he

00:10:20.120 looks like too because he sounds exactly like a judge on like a baking competition show and so

00:10:26.420 whenever he whenever he speaks i see that guy but i know that's not him yeah yeah

00:10:32.200 no it's interesting yeah like he he doesn't look like i pictured him but his voice does suit him

00:10:41.100 if that makes sense okay interesting yeah yeah i think that i thought your voice would be higher

00:10:46.100 pitched um yeah i probably i probably give off that vibe i've always like thought my voice was

00:10:53.200 way too deep or like low pitched anytime i've heard it i'm always like you don't sound girly

00:11:01.200 girly or anything so what's funny is that my voice sounds higher pitched on recordings than

00:11:08.440 it does in my head yeah so i like in my head i have like a low voice yeah me too somebody needs

00:11:15.420 to develop to develop software that's like where you can like tweak it and stuff and be like this

00:11:20.940 is what i actually sound like inside my head yeah it doesn't work to do that thing where you hold

00:11:26.160 your hand in front of your ear because they reckon if you do that obviously i can't do it right now

00:11:30.360 because i'm wearing headphones and so but if you hold your hand in front of your ear and you talk

00:11:34.280 it's supposed to like bend the sound enough that like it's sort of what you sound like to other

00:11:40.220 people no but i'm talking about i like how i want other people to hear like my internal voice

00:11:48.400 oh okay yeah because i know what i sound like we've recorded a couple episodes

00:11:53.020 yeah just a few sick of listening to my own voice yeah um have you this is this is you know that

00:12:01.980 question that everybody seems to be like hung up on lately do you have an internal monologue

00:12:06.880 not only internal but also external

00:12:09.720 Emily's just narrating the whole thing I was actually in my car yesterday and was like talking

00:12:17.900 to myself I was like oh like where where did I put this where did I do that oh and like

00:12:23.280 don't forget that like the eggs are in the trunk I don't remember I was just saying stuff out loud

00:12:28.320 and there was a guy sitting in the car

00:12:29.980 like across from me in the parking lot

00:12:31.880 like parked right in front of me

00:12:33.000 and all of a sudden I was like very

00:12:35.680 suddenly aware of like

00:12:37.880 I am sitting here

00:12:39.860 talking to myself and somebody else can

00:12:41.960 see me

00:12:42.680 he's like 0.80

00:12:45.520 crazy lady in the car 0.93

00:12:47.040 with her hair all disheveled 1.00

00:12:51.000 probably like drool 1.00

00:12:53.860 stains on my shirt

00:12:54.860 at least most of the time you'll have your baby now so

00:12:57.700 people will just assume you're speaking to her

00:13:00.500 if you are caught talking to yourself.

00:13:02.600 I do talk to her a lot when I'm in the store, too.

00:13:05.380 I'll be like, okay, next we have to get

00:13:06.800 bread. And then I think

00:13:08.640 people will hear it, and then they see me

00:13:10.740 and it's like, oh, okay, it's not that weird.

00:13:13.620 Yeah.

00:13:14.520 Plus, I'm sure it helps her brain development or whatever.

00:13:16.720 Yeah, it does. They say it helps to talk to

00:13:18.700 babies, so I talk to her

00:13:20.340 a lot.

00:13:22.980 Hmm.

00:13:24.340 Do you have an internal monologue?

00:13:26.620 No. No?

00:13:27.700 no what yeah you even thinks it's really weird i think in pictures and i imagine things but i

00:13:34.460 don't have a voice in my head narrating my life not even narrating but you don't have a voice

00:13:40.600 that says like okay okay later after work i have to go to the store there's not ever a voice that

00:13:47.880 says any of that no i would picture myself walking into the store oh my gosh yeah it's it's weird but

00:13:57.440 at the same time i find i do remember things better if i say them out loud to remind myself

00:14:02.400 of something yeah same like yeah if there's something that i need to remember i'm like

00:14:07.240 you put the key underneath the blah blah blah yeah if i say that i remember myself saying it

00:14:13.560 but i think it's also because i'm recalling the like almost like the video loop of myself saying

00:14:18.360 it yeah in my head that's very strange that's so wild to me to think that there are people out

00:14:24.700 there who don't have like internal monologue and that you just i don't know like have pictures

00:14:30.780 of like you don't you don't think like oh i need to rake the leaves you just see yourself raking

00:14:35.320 the leaves yeah oh my god i just i just i just imagine leaves but at the same time like my brain

00:14:42.360 isn't ever like quiet i'm never at the that point where like my there's nothing going on in my brain

00:14:48.540 i'm always like picturing or thinking about something you know but there's no there's no

00:14:53.980 words no there's not like an intentional like there's not like me saying things like or you

00:15:00.540 know my own voice in my head or anything it's very hard to explain that's what I'm like okay

00:15:08.140 so when you first said I don't have an internal monologue yeah just imagine your head is like

00:15:13.840 empty I know because yeah like when I say this to you and he acts like I'm an airhead and I have

00:15:20.300 like nothing going on like no it's not that i have nothing going on it's just i'm not narrating the

00:15:24.720 whole thing yeah like imagine a movie with no dialogue this is so interesting yeah wow in the

00:15:32.620 first like how many minutes we have now covered so many very interesting topics

00:15:36.800 i also like this is like a slight like tangent from that of have you seen that there's like

00:15:46.960 people who can't picture things

00:15:48.700 no like they'll like read

00:15:50.880 something and they can't imagine

00:15:52.700 like the characters or the scenes

00:15:54.680 like they'll read a work of fiction and like

00:15:56.640 they can't they can't picture it

00:15:58.800 or like if you said to them like

00:16:00.800 picture a green apple they'll not picture it

00:16:02.920 that's so interesting

00:16:04.100 yeah I mean it's like that's sad

00:16:06.720 because I love reading so

00:16:07.820 yeah that would be really weird

00:16:10.820 I'm glad that there's like memes now

00:16:12.820 because I don't feel like I'm totally alone

00:16:14.380 about you know when somebody's

00:16:16.960 teaching you a new game and they're like explaining the rules i have no clue i'm like

00:16:22.160 let's just start playing because i don't know what you're saying yeah yeah that's exactly me

00:16:27.360 um like have you seen that meme of like i don't know what it's from but it's like a guy like

00:16:32.740 in floods of tears crying and um they've like photoshopped him into the room that the first

00:16:39.740 saw movie is set in and it's like me in the saw movie dying in the first 10 minutes because i

00:16:44.180 wasn't listening that is me i can never recall like a card game even if i own a card game like

00:16:53.440 i have to like i have cards against humanity i have to look up the rules every time i play

00:16:57.580 because i can never remember it it's not a complicated game yeah it's really not that's

00:17:05.280 probably one of the few that i like remember i'm always like how many cards did we give everybody

00:17:11.460 and like who has the black one i just can't remember yeah i don't know maybe my brain

00:17:19.040 doesn't deem it important enough to remember because i always know that i can just look it

00:17:22.380 up or get it explained again yeah i think that's what happens with me is that my brain just tosses

00:17:26.600 out useless information like i can't i can't recall movies i can't recall tv shows unless

00:17:32.220 i just watched it like yeah we quote what we do in the shadows on here a lot but i have watched

00:17:38.880 that tv show probably four times yeah and i've retained like 50 of it yeah like eunice said like

00:17:48.700 he's envious of me because i can watch a film and then like say like six months later i remember

00:17:54.620 nothing about it yeah i'll like unless i've seen it like several times or unless it was something

00:18:00.120 really really memorable about it yeah i'll like not remember anything about it or i'll like forget

00:18:05.040 at the ending yeah and he's like so you can just like re-watch a film from like i i realize i'm

00:18:10.280 making myself start like an absolute idiot on this one god it's like there is nothing between

00:18:19.980 her ears yeah i just forget everything i have no inner voice i just coast through life just not 0.99

00:18:29.780 thinking about stuff it's like anytime i i do something kind of ditzy you and goes okay two

00:18:34.700 degrees yeah i'm like except you went to law school so

00:18:38.340 yeah and i don't remember any of the stuff that i studied

00:18:44.480 it's short-term memory i can remember all the words to like

00:18:51.860 she-wolf by shakira but like not anything about the irish constitution yeah i feel like we're 0.94

00:18:59.760 very similar in all of that because i don't we watched oh my god what the fuck is the movie it's

00:19:06.500 with leonardo dicaprio and there's like a spinning top in the movie inception inception yes and

00:19:14.440 medardo and i watched it together and i like don't remember us watching it together he's like

00:19:20.220 you really don't remember i'm like no he's like you don't remember this part i'm like

00:19:23.880 it's annoying though because like sometimes you wish like sometimes i will remember like

00:19:31.720 big things about a film and i kind of wish i could forget more of it because i want to enjoy 0.89

00:19:36.300 it for the first time again the only time it doesn't work yeah exactly it's like damn it

00:19:42.620 i remember the twist anywho we are revisiting house spirits part two part the yep dos if you

00:19:53.060 speak spanish i don't know how to say part in spanish though i don't think so last week we

00:20:01.240 covered what did we cover previously we covered the domovoi yeah previously we covered the domovoi

00:20:07.160 which is the russian house spirit the kotihaltia which is in finland or the tantu i forgot that it

00:20:14.420 was said it has two names we did the nisa and the tamta in sweden and norway we did a hob in

00:20:21.460 northern england do you remember the hob i do remember the hob how could i forget the hob i

00:20:27.460 was telling somebody about that because i like thought it was so funny i was like next up the

00:20:32.380 hob and you were like the what like i stopped speaking english for this episode i only have

00:20:40.900 two house spirits but the second one has a lot of lore around it so the first one is from japan

00:20:49.540 it's called the zashiki warashi which also means parlor child whoa playing parlor tricks

00:20:58.060 but they are spirit-like beings that exist mostly in the mythology of the iwate prefecture they are

00:21:05.700 said to be yokai that live in parlors or storage rooms they perform pranks but are also said to

00:21:10.960 bring luck to anyone who sees one one of the folk beliefs about the zashiki warashi is that they are

00:21:16.560 gods of fortune or are protective

00:21:18.480 spirits. If you have one in your

00:21:20.540 house, it means that you are doing well financially.

00:21:23.160 If they disappear, it means

00:21:24.560 that you're about to come into financial troubles.

00:21:26.900 Okay, so you

00:21:28.320 have money and they hang around you

00:21:30.420 so they're little gold diggers.

00:21:32.580 You lose your money and you 0.87

00:21:34.180 lose your house, ghost? 0.99

00:21:36.260 What the hell? Yeah, yeah. 1.00

00:21:38.080 Very unfortunate. But shit. 1.00

00:21:39.800 Also snooty little shits. 1.00

00:21:43.100 There are tales 0.99

00:21:44.140 about different families and their struggles

00:21:45.940 after a zashiki warashi has disappeared one says that there was a family wiped out by a foodborne

00:21:52.180 illness after its zashiki warashi left another tale tells of a wealthy family whose zashiki

00:21:57.940 warashi was shot with a bow and arrow by a child this resulted in the family's loss of wealth oh

00:22:03.940 my god it's pretty intense that's a shit few months yeah it is said that there are male and 0.53

00:22:09.360 female versions of this spirit as well as ones that do not appear to have a gender they look to

00:22:14.760 be about three years of age all the way

00:22:16.720 up to 15. They all

00:22:18.800 have a red face. Their hair hangs down

00:22:20.820 in a bob haircut. The male 1.00

00:22:22.640 spirits wear blackish clothing with

00:22:24.740 a kasuri pattern 0.50

00:22:26.020 and the...

00:22:27.380 I'm picturing

00:22:30.540 this in my head.

00:22:32.460 Sorry, I was just like staring

00:22:34.580 slack jawed into space.

00:22:37.740 I'm like 0.83

00:22:38.160 red face bob haircut.

00:22:41.080 Yeah. Horrifying.

00:22:43.140 The male spirits

00:22:44.500 wear blackish clothing with a kasuri pattern and the females wear a red waistcoat a kasode

00:22:50.060 which is a short-sleeved item of clothing similar to a kimono but it's with different proportions

00:22:55.500 or sometimes a furisode which is a style of kimono that is distinguished distinguishable

00:23:01.800 by its long sleeves tales also tell that if you see a white zashiki warashi it means that there

00:23:07.400 are good things coming to your family but if you see a red one red face red clothes and holding a

00:23:13.380 red bucket it means that there are bad things coming your way oh what's the bucket for yeah 0.98

00:23:18.360 that's what i was thinking i'm like is he collecting your shit or what's going on very 0.99

00:23:22.800 ominous bucket holy shit yeah there you go again ominous bucket some legends describe them looking 1.00

00:23:32.040 like a black beast or some that look like a warrior they can inhabit a house in multiples 0.99

00:23:37.400 it's not always just one

00:23:39.240 the zashiki warashi 0.85

00:23:43.500 are pranksters and they like 1.00

00:23:45.560 to cause mischief

00:23:46.520 they often act during the night leaving little

00:23:49.480 footprints of bleach powder or ash

00:23:51.480 they would mess with guests in the

00:23:53.580 guest rooms by riding on futons

00:23:55.620 or turning pillows over so that the guests

00:23:57.640 wouldn't be able to sleep

00:23:58.800 any attempts to make it stop wouldn't work

00:24:01.580 oh gosh can you imagine

00:24:03.500 when I read riding futons

00:24:05.800 I was like

00:24:06.420 how does one ride a futon that's such an amazing image i know this is also not words like an image

00:24:15.700 it's just giving me like flashbacks of the ring yeah but like i don't know that's probably a

00:24:21.620 completely different category of spirits but that was like a little boy right he was are you thinking

00:24:26.760 more of like the grudge yeah sorry i'm thinking of the grudge that's what i'm thinking of yeah

00:24:30.760 because that was and he was meowing japanese yeah yeah because he was like he kind of had

00:24:37.120 like cat-like i was gonna say features but no cat-like uh mannerisms like he would like meow

00:24:43.200 oh yeah i just remember the weird like throaty noise that they would make

00:24:47.600 i was like which i'm not gonna do right now but you can

00:24:52.440 the zashiki burashi would make noises in an inner room that sound like noises coming from a

00:24:59.520 kagura which is a performance it's kind of like a ceremonial dance there are also legends that if

00:25:05.560 a family member were alone sewing they would hear sounds of snorting or rustling papers

00:25:10.480 when they would open the door to see where the sound was coming from there wouldn't be anyone

00:25:14.500 there snorting i knew that was coming no absolutely not that would bother me oh my god

00:25:24.620 Wrestling papers, that's fine.

00:25:26.840 Snorting. 1.00

00:25:27.440 Freaking cokehead. 1.00

00:25:28.320 Pass. 1.00

00:25:30.320 Snorting.

00:25:32.360 There are theories that the Zashiki-warashi can only be seen by the family members in the household,

00:25:38.420 and of these members, only the children can see them.

00:25:41.580 There are stories about how, when adults counted children,

00:25:44.700 there would be one more person than there was originally.

00:25:47.660 But as adults do not understand what Zashiki-warashi are,

00:25:51.740 they would not know who the extra person is.

00:25:53.980 stories like these frequently appear as themes in literature and the movie home alone interesting

00:25:59.180 you're like i'm just like how many kids do you have to have that like you need to count them

00:26:06.180 to make sure they're all there yeah and you count them wrong and you're just like yeah seems i guess

00:26:11.400 i guess there's one extra we maybe just forgot that we had that one yeah what are you irish

00:26:15.740 it's just cheaper by the dozen a lot of people believe that the well-being of the zashiki

00:26:22.520 warashi is a direct correlation to how well the family is doing those who believe this will offer

00:26:27.660 meals to the zashiki warashi every day it's said that they love to eat azuki mishi which is rice

00:26:34.760 with red beans and if you leave it out and it is not eaten that this is an omen for the family's

00:26:40.300 decline oh screw your rice and beans these beans are undercooked there is also a custom of making

00:26:49.140 a room for a child, complete with toys

00:26:51.280 for the Zashiki Warashi to live

00:26:53.200 in, and if they are comfortable, they

00:26:55.140 will stay and bring the family prosperity.

00:26:58.020 Which is...

00:26:59.360 So some people make a whole room

00:27:01.180 dedicated just to this spirit.

00:27:03.140 See, this is like... Wasn't this happening

00:27:05.040 last episode too? Yeah.

00:27:07.220 It's kind of like a theme. Like, people

00:27:09.200 tend to do this.

00:27:11.240 But also, it's just showing that rich

00:27:13.220 people are able to appease these spirits

00:27:15.200 because they're able to give them a whole room.

00:27:17.220 the per family where like the kids are like sharing a bedroom they're not gonna be able

00:27:22.920 to do that there's four kids in one room well if you're won't stand for it yeah i mean if you're

00:27:30.380 wealthy like how it's saying it's like oh if the if it's well taken care of and whatever you're

00:27:34.900 wealthy then i guess you can afford it you can afford to give them a good room the rich just

00:27:39.980 get richer there's a japanese folklorist named kizun sasaki i think i'm pronouncing that right

00:27:46.960 i'm not sure i couldn't find pronunciation um they suggest the zashiki warashi could possibly

00:27:52.660 be the spirits of children who were victims of infanticide it is said that in the region of

00:27:57.600 tohoku children were crushed to death by a stone mortar this was a way for the family to reduce

00:28:03.760 the amount of children that they needed to feed which is horrible no after the children were

00:28:10.320 deceased it was accustomed to bury them in the room that has a dirt floor which is a doma or a

00:28:16.260 kitchen it said that the spirits of these dead children would come around on rainy days

00:28:21.240 shaking and frightening guests around the end of november for them yeah for real i would yeah if

00:28:28.760 i was a child and they took me out because they had too many children you better believe i'm

00:28:32.380 coming back and you know it was mostly girls too yeah seriously it's always that in history yeah

00:28:37.540 when we are the life bringers around the end of november 2015 there was a video from a home

00:28:44.860 video camera that surfaced online in the video you can see a translucent girl in a kimono

00:28:50.120 walking through the house and even walking through walls it is said that this is the

00:28:54.640 only known video evidence of a zashiki warashi oh i need to see that video i know i was looking

00:29:01.480 for it and i couldn't find it frustrating yeah that's like most things on this podcast

00:29:08.680 really horrifying and sad but also creepy as fuck yeah i like how this uh like the lore of like

00:29:15.640 getting rid of um extra mouths to feed has turned into like a tale of vengeance basically yeah 0.94

00:29:20.960 that's what they deserve you know we complain about the times that we live in but i am quite

00:29:26.420 happy that we're well in this part of the world anyway we're not doing that to our babies anymore

00:29:32.060 yeah seriously you know like giving them away sending them to live with relatives because you

00:29:38.600 can't afford to feed them that kind of stuff i'm just kind of like okay you got two options

00:29:44.840 you can take birth control to not have a children or a child or you know other methods of birth

00:29:50.580 control there are a few of them or you could kill your child that has been born and you decide to

00:29:57.500 go that route yeah well it makes me think of like you know the way they say like victorian times

00:30:03.820 like they a lot of times they wouldn't even name a child until like after their first birthday yeah

00:30:08.400 that's so sad because they didn't think that they would survive and it's why you get a lot of like

00:30:13.520 kids who are named after like a dead sibling as well i haven't heard that part yeah like it seems

00:30:20.080 that i it happened in ireland yikes quite a lot like you know like they would be named after like

00:30:26.200 somebody who had died like as a baby who like years before they were ever born just dark yeah

00:30:32.300 this is why important to get vaccines

00:30:35.640 we'll do our second vaccine rant wait we had one before yes we did about three episodes well

00:30:47.720 here we are again

00:30:51.020 I think I'm fresh on this

00:30:54.220 because yesterday

00:30:55.340 I saw 1.00

00:30:57.140 this woman reviewing

00:30:59.500 a book 1.00

00:31:01.080 that's like I'm unvaccinated and that's

00:31:04.220 okay it's like a children's book

00:31:06.100 and I'm just like oh

00:31:08.180 no oh no

00:31:10.200 just telling them

00:31:12.100 what to say yeah

00:31:13.220 will you also be okay when you have

00:31:16.060 polio or measles come on anyway so for our next house spirit we're headed over to germany

00:31:27.340 i was about to make like german music and then i was like wait what is german music like polka

00:31:33.140 isn't that polish is it i think oh my god hold on

00:31:39.160 the czech republic and polish culture i mean that makes sense polka polish

00:31:46.380 yeah that's the only reason i i think that because i was pretty sure it came from like

00:31:50.960 polski well it says czech german and polish cultures

00:31:54.660 yeah yeah that area let's say yeah i actually don't think we have any german listeners we do

00:32:03.860 have we have listeners from like some random places like there's somebody in lithuania that

00:32:08.400 was binging all of our episodes which is like good for you oh wow that's cool yeah yeah hello

00:32:14.760 to our lithuanian listener i bet you they're like an american person or an irish person just living

00:32:20.180 there but could be if you're a lithuanian listener reach out and tell us are you actually lithuanian

00:32:26.060 are you just like living there send us a little hello or maybe you have like a really good vpn

00:32:30.620 are you trying to get on that lithuanian netflix for some reason that's so funny a good crime

00:32:36.960 drama my daughter used to get on the japanese netflix the holy grail used to be american

00:32:42.000 netflix we used to do um vpns to get american netflix so funny it's just it just makes me

00:32:47.340 curious what all the other netflix and like streaming services look like in other countries

00:32:51.920 i can show you although i don't have netflix anymore i cancelled well mostly american stuff

00:32:58.700 and then every now and then we'll have like some local dramas and like we get we have a lot of

00:33:04.660 british tv as well okay so there's oh and for like netflix absolutely although i think it's

00:33:10.480 in america too they love their like nordic true crime or not true crime nordic crime noir dramas

00:33:15.880 what like set in like sweden and iceland and nordic noir interesting genre i've never heard of

00:33:22.740 that there's a really funny um like i think it was from like college humor or something

00:33:29.960 where they were doing like a trailer for like every nordic crime drama and it's like because

00:33:34.960 it's like iceland and the population's so small it's like this one guy like be being interrogated

00:33:40.640 and he's like yes the killer was known to me it's like yeah because you always know the killer

00:33:46.020 because there's like nine of you there yeah it's probably your cousin yeah um we were did you ever

00:33:55.500 watched the british show doc martin or dr martin i don't remember which one it is

00:33:59.500 uh madardo like was obsessed with that show for some reason really yeah and he so that actor who

00:34:09.100 played the doctor martin clinton yes he then played in like a crime drama show

00:34:18.660 either way madardo turned it on because he was like oh i really like you know like you know he

00:34:24.860 likes the show so he figured he likes

00:34:26.840 the actor he's probably like this show

00:34:28.380 and I was like he's basically

00:34:31.080 playing the doctor just

00:34:32.560 as a detective

00:34:33.600 and it made me so mad

00:34:36.520 because when he turned it on

00:34:39.000 I was like if he's playing the 1.00

00:34:40.980 same fucking character 1.00

00:34:42.880 just in a 1.00

00:34:44.900 different show I'm gonna be mad

00:34:46.700 my god I fully thought you're

00:34:50.660 so like Martin Clunes before

00:34:52.560 Doc Martin like we're

00:34:54.840 right about like the main guy right with the kind of big ears yeah he was mostly known like to my

00:35:00.820 generation anyway for being in a sitcom called men behaving badly which was like the complete

00:35:07.220 polar opposite of doc martin it was like the whole point of it was he lived with his best friend in

00:35:13.580 an apartment and it was just them being absolute like wasters like just like trying to date and

00:35:19.720 being like disgusting and all of that so like then he went from that to doc martin where he's

00:35:24.080 like a little bit posh and he's like solving mysteries and stuff it's just really funny

00:35:28.460 so i thought you were gonna say medardo put on men behaving badly it was like this is nothing

00:35:32.480 like doc martin that would have been really good no i fully think that the character like doc martin

00:35:43.540 i think that he is uh probably like pretty heavily like autistic or like on the spectrum

00:35:48.840 okay i've only seen like maybe doesn't understand human emotion yeah but that was like a that was

00:35:55.540 a big theme in like crime dramas and dramas there for like about a decade it was like oh we're gonna

00:36:02.880 have we're gonna have like a you know a brilliant detective or a brilliant doctor and they're going

00:36:09.140 to like not understand human emotions and like be like autism coded but will not actually say

00:36:14.420 that they're autistic yeah like the um house md did you ever watch that it was like well sherlock

00:36:22.540 was kind of like that anyway but yeah i've never seen that but it just was like it's like they're 0.98

00:36:27.320 these really smart people who are just like saying the most out-of-pocket shit to people 0.97

00:36:31.440 it's like yeah like on house he was like like you're fat yeah like on house you'd be like 1.00

00:36:37.100 well your daughter here is gonna die soon like unless you take the stick out of your ass it's 1.00

00:36:42.900 like okay buddy yeah anywho this is the tangent episode holy shit it is the day before thanksgiving 1.00

00:36:53.540 so over here in germany there is a mythical sprite called the kobold i'm pretty sure i'm

00:37:03.940 saying that right i could not find you're nodding am i saying it right you've heard of it before

00:37:09.060 i don't know you probably have this in your notes but it's where like the

00:37:12.480 the name for the color cobalt comes from yes yes okay it's awesome that you know that

00:37:17.780 i think it was on an episode of lore so i can't really take credit okay yeah so sometimes they're

00:37:25.440 invisible sometimes they manifest as an animal their favorites are bats cats roosters snakes

00:37:31.460 and worms or sometimes they manifest as a fire or a candle but they're mostly seen and depicted

00:37:38.340 as a small person about the size of a four-year-old child fire kobolds are sometimes

00:37:43.940 called drakes dracus i'm i'm very sorry to everybody i was trying to find pronunciation

00:37:50.100 but i couldn't um so drakes dracus or pooks or pucks i think it's pucks as in like puck from

00:37:59.520 midsummer night's dream sure he's like a fairy character okay that makes sense

00:38:07.040 belief in kobolds dates back to as early as the 13th century though possibly even earlier than

00:38:13.500 that in the earliest lore kobolds were known to wow kobolds were known as tree spirits or spirits

00:38:21.560 who lived underground if a person were to enter the kobolds underground dwelling they would follow

00:38:26.640 the person home. Kobolds are found in homes, mines, and on ships. This makes it hard to pin

00:38:32.480 down exactly where the folklore originates from. The kobolds who live in homes tend to have peasant 0.93

00:38:37.700 like clothes. A legend recorded by folklorist Joseph Snow from a place called Alteburg in 1839

00:38:45.420 tells of a creature, quote, in the shape of a short thick-set being, neither boy nor man,

00:38:51.420 but akin to the condition of both

00:38:53.360 garbed in a party-colored loose

00:38:55.580 surcoat and wearing a high-crowned

00:38:57.480 hat with a broad brim on his

00:38:59.360 diminutive head 0.98

00:39:00.560 rude, diminutive head 1.00

00:39:03.440 he's like dressed like a little pimp 0.99

00:39:05.500 pretty much 1.00

00:39:06.960 kobolds who are found in the mines

00:39:11.360 are usually hunched and grizzled looking

00:39:13.340 and can manifest into a brick

00:39:15.220 which is very interesting

00:39:16.620 a brick

00:39:19.720 kobolds who are found on ships wear sailor style clothing and smoke a pipe 0.93

00:39:26.040 also a pimp nice also pimps this is where pimps came from 0.99

00:39:30.220 fairy tales that'd be pretty funny or folklore kobolds that are found in homes are usually

00:39:39.280 helpful they'll do chores that were left undone overnight as the residents sleep

00:39:43.520 they'll do this as long as they're fed and respected much like all of the other household

00:39:48.360 spirits that we have covered kobolds do not tolerate being laughed at or mocked they look

00:39:54.440 after livestock find lost objects and even sing to children to entertain them oh they also help

00:40:00.280 guard the home if the kobold is upset he will often push someone over if they've been to pick

00:40:05.340 something up or hide household objects they enjoy gifts of food and clothing especially uniforms 0.90

00:40:11.320 and hats nice so like the opposite of the hobbs right i was thinking the same thing i'm like so

00:40:18.640 the hobbs will like spit on you if you give them clothes yeah but these guys are like yeah give me 0.70

00:40:25.720 give me give me my pimp cane and my goblet my little pipe a pimp cup kobolds are usually found 0.99

00:40:34.240 living in the hearth of the house again like all the other house spirits though they can also live

00:40:39.680 in other less frequented areas of the home, such as the woodhouse, barns, or stables. 0.99

00:40:44.620 Some kobolds live in shops or bakeries and will help tradespeople with their work.

00:40:48.860 A cologne legend recorded by Thomas Keitley claims that the bakers in the city in the early

00:40:53.340 19th century never needed hired help. Each night, the kobolds, known as Heinzelmachen,

00:40:59.720 made as much bread as a baker could need. Similarly, beer cell, which are kobolds who

00:41:07.000 live in breweries and the beer sellers of inns or pubs bring beer into the house clean the tables

00:41:12.880 and wash the bottles glasses and casts okay that's good to know because i was gonna say like um see

00:41:19.180 this bread that they're making is this passing health codes are you gonna be like eating bread

00:41:27.560 going this is made by little tiny creatures yeah we actually so something really funny

00:41:36.480 there's a fishery here

00:41:38.900 and it's like very well known

00:41:40.780 it's been there for a super long time

00:41:43.100 and

00:41:44.280 Madardo just told me today that it

00:41:46.920 burned down and this is

00:41:48.980 following being shut down by

00:41:51.000 a rat infestation

00:41:52.260 and I was like

00:41:54.120 oh so it burned down

00:41:56.700 burned down

00:41:57.860 spontaneously caught fire

00:42:00.120 wow

00:42:02.940 yeah that's happened a few times here

00:42:05.060 it's pretty funny though because it just makes me think of like 1.00

00:42:09.420 the kobolds are out there like baking bread with the rats

00:42:12.200 the little rat hands because of all the work that the kobolds did in the 19th century a phrase came 0.98

00:42:21.680 about if someone worked quickly they were said to have the kobold the kobolds who live in the 0.83

00:42:27.180 mines are usually mischievous and try to halt the miners work by causing rocks to fall and other 0.70

00:42:32.140 accidents once a kobold is attached to someone it is very difficult to make them leave if they're

00:42:38.540 upset they will basically just annoy you until you treat them well they're not violent but they 0.99

00:42:42.900 will be very aggravating like me they won't make you dinner yeah some legends say that all homes

00:42:52.860 have a resident kobold no matter how the people living in the house feel about it the way they

00:42:57.500 enter a household varies. One

00:42:59.440 legend says that a kobold will enter 1.00

00:43:01.560 a house in the night, strewing 1.00

00:43:03.400 woodchips all over the place and putting dirt

00:43:05.440 or cow manure in the milk cans.

00:43:07.800 If the person living in the house leaves

00:43:09.500 the woodchips and drinks the soiled milk, 1.00

00:43:11.640 then the kobold will take up residence 0.94

00:43:13.420 there. I would not 1.00

00:43:15.580 be drinking that milk. Oh my god.

00:43:18.160 Ew. Soil milk.

00:43:20.000 Although they do say there's a certain percentage

00:43:21.700 of poop in milk

00:43:23.660 anyway. Oh really? Yeah.

00:43:25.880 That's fun.

00:43:27.500 i knew there was like blood and mucus and stuff in it because of you know just like yeah the way

00:43:33.420 they abuse cows to get milk yeah uh enjoys so next on the agenda is the dairy industry

00:43:40.880 yeah we're just going after everybody today chose violence another legend says that if you take pity

00:43:50.340 on a cold and wet kobold by letting it inside to dry off and warm up then it will take up residence

00:43:55.760 in your house a legend from perleberg in northern germany says that one can go out into the woods

00:44:02.120 to find a kobold to bring back to their house this is done by going out in the forest on saint

00:44:07.260 john's day between noon and one you find an anthill with a bird on it and say a certain phrase 0.93

00:44:13.060 this causes the bird to turn into a small human jump into the bag carried by the homeowner and

00:44:18.640 be brought back to live in the home this is so specific i know i couldn't find the phrase though

00:44:24.420 i don't think i've ever seen an anthill in like the wild in like real life yeah maybe the aunts

00:44:30.080 you haven't have hills yeah i mean not like a big hill but you've never seen like little ones

00:44:34.660 no i've seen like aunts like under logs and stuff but i've never seen them like

00:44:38.920 have a colony oh that's crazy yeah because like in like all my life growing up there'd be like

00:44:44.820 you know like cracks in the sidewalk and stuff and the ants would like make little like dirt hills

00:44:48.660 oh wow yeah and then because we were evil children i would be like go away and i'd like

00:44:55.140 mess up their little dirt hill yeah my brother used to burn them with a magnifying glass so 1.00

00:45:00.960 it's much worse that's terrible yeah kobolds are said to bring luck and good fortune if their 1.00

00:45:06.600 hosts take good care of them if a family were to come into an unexplained amount of wealth it was 0.97

00:45:11.320 said that a new kobold moved into the home like see this blaming newfound wealth on a on a like

00:45:18.220 a kobold that's like so it couldn't be insider trading yeah we're not committing any uh crimes 0.98

00:45:25.100 over here yeah he's not he's not dealing drugs or anything it's um he got a new kobold yeah uh

00:45:30.940 the kobold named heinzelman found things that had been lost he had a rhyme that he liked to sing

00:45:36.140 it goes if thou here will let me stay good luck shalt thou have all way but if hence thou wilt

00:45:44.360 me chase luck will never come near place nice straight to the point three famous kobolds king

00:45:51.740 goldemar heinzelman and hudekin all gave warnings about danger to the owners of the home in which

00:45:57.560 they lived heinzelman once warned a colonel to be careful on his daily hunt the man ignored the

00:46:03.140 advice only to have his gun backfire and shoot off his thumb heinzelman appeared to him and said

00:46:09.240 see now you got what i warned you of if you'd refrain from shooting this time this mischance

00:46:15.180 would not have befallen you oh so that's so inconvenient losing a thumb oh my god for real 0.98

00:46:23.040 that'd be so annoying just losing any limb would really suck the kobold hudiken who lived with the 0.86

00:46:28.740 bishop of hittlesheim in the 12th century once warned the bishop of a murder when the bishop 0.62

00:46:34.760 acted on the information he was able to take over the murderers lands and add them to his bishopric

00:46:41.300 bishopric do you know that word oh is it like a kingdom but what a bishop yeah i didn't know

00:46:51.000 there was a word for that thank you for the new word you're welcome you'll probably use it a lot

00:46:57.360 yeah when they travel they appear as a streak of light an old tale from the village of petul

00:47:03.720 says that the kobold flies through the air as a blue stripe and it carries grain.

00:47:08.660 If a knife or a firesteel be cast at him, he will burst and must let fall what which he is carrying.

00:47:15.040 Some legends say that the fiery kobold enters and exits a house through the chimney. 0.51

00:47:19.900 Legends dating to 1852 from Western Euchremark ascribe both human and fiery features to the kobold.

00:47:26.760 He wears a red jacket and cap and moves about the air in a fiery stripe.

00:47:30.580 So he's very dramatic.

00:47:32.480 I'm a fiery boy.

00:47:33.720 Yeah, just like streaking through the air.

00:47:35.760 Sounds pretty cool.

00:47:36.720 Streaking through the air.

00:47:39.180 Streaking. 0.93

00:47:40.340 The kobolds who are seen in the mines are also sometimes described as having black skin.

00:47:45.660 The following accounts make mention of this.

00:47:48.140 So this is, I don't think this is racist.

00:47:50.880 I think it's just because they work in the mines.

00:47:52.820 I just want to say that for clarification.

00:47:55.300 It's like coal.

00:47:55.960 Yeah.

00:47:56.440 just yeah in 1820 spiritualist emma hardinge britain recorded a description of mine kobolds

00:48:04.040 from a madam koladzi who stayed with peasants named dorothea and michael engelbrecht okay so

00:48:10.300 this is like a direct quote from her story we were about to sit down to tea when madame granin

00:48:16.120 called to our attention the steady light round and about the size of a cheese plate which appeared

00:48:21.680 suddenly on the wall of the little garden directly opposite the door of the hut in which we sat

00:48:27.260 Before any of us could rise to examine it, four more lights appeared almost simultaneously,

00:48:32.600 about the same shape and varying only in size.

00:48:36.240 Surrounding each one was the dim outline of a small human figure, black and grotesque,

00:48:41.400 more like a little image carved out of a black shining wood than anything else that I can liken them to.

00:48:47.800 Dorothea kissed her hands to these dreadful little shapes, and Michael bowed with great reverence.

00:48:52.820 As for me and my companions, we were so awestruck, yet amused at these comical shapes, that we could not move or speak until they themselves seemed to flit about in a sort of wavering dance, and then vanish, one by one.

00:49:05.800 the same informant claimed to later have seen the kobolds firsthand she described them as

00:49:11.600 diminutive black dwarfs about two or three feet in height and at that part which in the human

00:49:16.840 being is occupied by the heart they carry round luminous circle first described an appearance 0.94

00:49:22.360 which is more frequently seen than the little black men themselves so it's like the like light

00:49:28.680 that's in their chest people see that more than actual kobolds also i'm picturing little tiny

00:49:34.400 iron mom costumes her it's the light coming out of their chest legends say that anyone who tries

00:49:40.920 to convince a kobold to show themselves will be punished for it one legend tells of a female 0.91

00:49:45.880 servant taking a fancy to her house kobolds and asking to see him the kobold refuses claiming 0.99

00:49:51.700 that to look upon him would be terrifying undeterred the maid insists and the kobold tells

00:49:57.360 her to meet him later and to bring along a pail of cold water the kobold waits for the maid nude 1.00

00:50:03.820 with a butcher knife in his back who fucking knows why he's doing that what the fuck the maid 0.99

00:50:09.380 faints at the sight and the kobold wakes her with the cold water in one variant the maid sees a dead 1.00

00:50:15.180 baby floating in a cask full of blood years before the woman who had born a bastard child killed it 0.98

00:50:21.640 and hidden it in such a cask oh my god it's terrible so you knew like her deepest dark 0.96

00:50:27.400 It's secret. 1.00

00:50:28.140 Holy shit. 1.00

00:50:29.340 Also, did I hear that right? 1.00

00:50:31.800 She had a kobold kink? 1.00

00:50:33.220 She took a fancy tomb? 1.00

00:50:34.280 Kind of seems like it. 0.82

00:50:35.300 Yeah. 1.00

00:50:35.800 She wanted to get that dick? 1.00

00:50:38.040 It's actually pronounced de-uck. 1.00

00:50:41.160 De-uck. 1.00

00:50:41.600 Legend tell of those who try to trick a kobold into showing themselves being punished for 1.00

00:50:45.900 the misdeed. 0.99

00:50:47.000 For example, Heinzelman tricked a nobleman into thinking that the kobold was hiding 0.91

00:50:51.500 in a jug. 0.91

00:50:52.940 When the nobleman covered the jug's mouth to trap the creature, the kobold chided him. 0.98

00:50:57.400 if i had not heard long ago from other people that you were a fool i might now have known of 0.97

00:51:03.480 it myself oh burn since you thought i was sitting in an empty jug and went to cover it up with your 0.99

00:51:09.180 hand as if you might have had me caught i don't think you're worth the trouble or i would have

00:51:14.600 given you long since such a lesson that you should remember me long enough but before long 0.88

00:51:19.860 you will get a slight ducking what the hell i don't know what a ducking is it sounds like a 0.99

00:51:25.640 beating what a bitch when a man threw ashes and tears about to try to see king goldemar's 0.99

00:51:31.000 footprints the kobold cut him to pieces put him on a spit roasted him boiled his legs and head 1.00

00:51:37.360 and ate him jesus christ i love how this varies from like we'll show you that your trauma of like 0.99

00:51:45.120 the child that you killed to we'll just mildly insult you and then boil you and eat you yeah 0.97

00:51:52.860 will rip you apart the Heinzelmachin of Cologne marched from the city and sailed away when when 0.99

00:51:58.520 a tailor's wife strewed peas on the stairs to trip them so that she could see them in 1850

00:52:04.820 Kitely noted that the Heinzelmachin had totally disappeared as has been everywhere the case

00:52:11.760 owing to the curiosity of people which has at all times been the destruction of so much of what was

00:52:17.820 beautiful in the world end quote refined but also true the curiosity of people has destroyed stuff

00:52:23.760 we have ai now and it's ruined everything yeah people are like oh that would be so cool it's

00:52:28.660 actually not cool no you're being replaced yeah we're all being replaced and you can't trust

00:52:35.620 anything anymore final rant of the episode jesus christ we really are doing the whole i feel like

00:52:40.600 this must have built up for something yeah i think we're just really angry right now there are some

00:52:45.500 legends that tell of kobolds who were offended becoming malevolent and vengeful, afflicting rude

00:52:51.020 hosts with supernatural diseases, disfigurements, and injuries. Their pranks range from beating 0.99

00:52:56.200 servants to murdering those who have insulted them. Oof. In one story, a holy man visited the 0.85

00:53:02.060 home of Heinzelman and refused to accept the kobolds' protest that he was a Christian.

00:53:07.880 Heinzelman threatened the nobleman and so he left. Another nobleman refused to drink in the kobolds'

00:53:13.380 honor, which made Heinzelman 0.89

00:53:15.240 so mad that he proceeded to drag

00:53:17.200 the man to the ground and choke him nearly

00:53:19.340 to death. Jesus.

00:53:21.160 Okay, Heinzelman.

00:53:23.760 It's a nightmare drinking, buddy.

00:53:26.220 You're not making, you're not

00:53:27.320 really convincing him here to drink in your honor.

00:53:29.880 I don't want to toast you, 1.00

00:53:31.420 you murderous little prick. In a 1.00

00:53:33.320 story about the kobold called Hudiken,

00:53:35.840 a servant got dirt on Hudiken

00:53:37.380 and sprayed him with water 1.00

00:53:39.140 each time the kobold appeared. 0.99

00:53:41.300 Hudiken asked that the servant be punished

00:53:43.360 but the steward dismissed the request, saying that the servant was just playing a childish

00:53:48.140 prank.

00:53:49.360 Hudikin waited for the servant to go to sleep, strangled him, tore him limb from limb, and

00:53:54.480 threw him into a pot over the fire. 0.82

00:53:56.880 The head cook reprimanded the kobold for what he had done, so Hudikin squeezed toad blood 0.91

00:54:01.820 into the meat that was being prepared for the bishop.

00:54:04.580 The cook, again, yelled at the kobold for his behavior, to which Hudikin responded by

00:54:10.240 throwing him over the drawbridge and into the moat. 0.99

00:54:12.600 oh my god according to luthi these abilities reflect the fear of the people who believe in

00:54:19.060 them the end so the kobolds some stories are like oh they're just they hang out in your house they'll

00:54:25.040 help you they don't like if you disrespect them they'll be good if you're good to them and then

00:54:29.820 there's these stories where it's like they get pissed off and like murder people and it yeah

00:54:36.120 and it kind of seems like these are the stories that you tell people so that they'll like act

00:54:41.120 accordingly it's like oh folklore is a lesson in some way right and it's kind of like so it's like

00:54:46.300 a a cautionary tale yeah and at the same time well like i guess the more extreme the behavior 0.98

00:54:52.160 the more extreme the punishment yeah it feels like the people who act like assholes are the people 0.81

00:54:58.740 who like would maybe like not believe in this and so like these stories are told to be like 0.81

00:55:04.100 arrogance yeah and so these stories are like trying to keep people in line if i thought that

00:55:10.340 um some little guy was gonna show up at my house at night and depending on like if i treated him

00:55:17.040 well that's or and i was respectful that he would like do chores for me and help me out and like

00:55:23.240 bake stuff for me and all of that that would like you know keep me in line but at the same time it's

00:55:27.880 like if you're acting up they're gonna like tear you limb from limb right so were you gonna say

00:55:33.980 something about the house yeah so out of the all of the house spirits if you can remember recall

00:55:39.600 which ones there are which one would be the one that you would most like in your house i just like

00:55:45.420 any of them that'll do chores for me like i would just like to go to bed and wake up to like clean

00:55:50.820 house and some nice porridge and it would be nice to have some nice porridge and on that note do we

00:55:58.940 have a question this week for our creature council we do so for today's creature council we have a

00:56:06.380 question from Worried in

00:56:08.500 Waukegan.

00:56:10.040 My boyfriend doesn't bathe when he gets sweaty

00:56:12.540 and smells. What should I do about this?

00:56:15.720 Okay.

00:56:16.700 Now we have to summon a creature.

00:56:18.360 There is a fly on the creature council box.

00:56:21.080 No, it's been tinted.

00:56:22.260 Is that a bad omen? Get off!

00:56:24.440 I think it's dying.

00:56:31.180 Robert the doll.

00:56:33.000 Oh god.

00:56:36.380 your boyfriend doesn't shower once he gets stinky i don't even know what to say to that 1.00

00:56:47.780 i've got mothballs in my face why don't you tell him that he's disgusting and tell him 0.99

00:56:57.620 that everybody is laughing at him when he is not home. 0.98

00:57:03.680 If that would be, I would run around at night and hide all of his clothes

00:57:10.320 so that he is forced to do nothing but bathe and scrub himself until he is clean again.

00:57:18.420 If you've asked him repeatedly to shower and to bathe himself,

00:57:24.540 then the only next option is

00:57:27.260 to lie in wait

00:57:28.800 where he least expects it

00:57:30.820 and sit there

00:57:32.660 wordlessly staring

00:57:34.780 at him until he complies

00:57:37.340 I found

00:57:38.720 this being a very effective

00:57:40.420 technique in getting what I want

00:57:43.140 okay Robert thank you

00:57:48.880 thank you so much

00:57:50.460 little creep you weirdo

00:57:52.500 i mean uh worried in waukegan he's he's been wearing the same sailor outfit and for about

00:58:02.340 90 years so yeah we're gonna talk about bathing yeah what his hygiene's like yeah but i you know

00:58:10.500 i would listen i think robert knows what he's doing um you could always just send your boyfriend

00:58:14.680 enough to live in the attic if you really needed to yeah send him to live with robert yeah

00:58:21.440 oh my god all right so we hope you enjoyed uh robert the doll making a cameo and this episode

00:58:35.520 about house spirits the second the second episode about how spirits uh make sure you send any of

00:58:41.620 your creature council questions see what i did there on i was gonna say onomatopoeia it's not

00:58:47.200 onomatopoeia it's alliteration although question starts with a q but i get where you're going with

00:58:53.960 this yeah it seems like yeah um make sure to submit them to our email or via dm if you have

00:59:03.200 any burning questions for any of the creatures who are offering their council we hope you enjoy our

00:59:08.360 live stream and our little extra episode and we'll be back in two weeks with something from me

00:59:17.660 that i have not decided to perfect uh i've been neve and i'm emily this was rowan and pine and

00:59:27.160 fuck yeah folklore and fuck yeah folklore bye talk to you soon yeah thanks for that guitar solo 0.93

00:59:36.800 You're welcome. 0.99

00:59:37.480 I don't even know why I put in any side effects.

00:59:40.340 I just get you to do it.

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Rowan & Pine: A Feminist Folklore & Mythology Podcast - November 29, 2023

Episode Twenty-Six： House Spirits Pt.2 - Ominous Bucket

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