There Are No Girls on the Internet - April 14, 2021


DISINFORMED: Stop comparing Ashli Babbitt and Daunte Wright

DISINFORMED: What that SNL skit on Black folks and vaccines got wrong TANGOTI Classic: She built a movement to take on Breitbart

Episode Stats


Length

12 minutes

Words per minute

168.78

Word count

2,087

Sentence count

140

Harmful content

Misogyny

5

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Toxicity

7

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Hate speech

3

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Transcript

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00:01:51.620 So just a quick heads up, this episode talks about police violence.
00:01:58.280 You're listening to Disinformed, a miniseries from There Are No Girls on the Internet.
00:02:03.200 I'm Bridget Todd.
00:02:08.120 So if I sound tired or emotional right now, it's because I am.
00:02:13.520 I saw something happening online, and I felt just called to respond.
00:02:18.260 That's how I put it to my very patient producer, Tari, who agreed to scrap the episode she had all set to publish today so that I could.
00:02:26.200 So here's what's going on.
00:02:28.000 In Brooklyn Center, Minnesota, Dante Wright, a 20-year-old black man, was shot and killed by police during a traffic stop.
00:02:34.240 And, I don't know, this just really got to me.
00:02:38.040 Wright was initially stopped by police for having expired tags,
00:02:41.340 and the stop got confrontational after police spotted an air freshener dangling from his rearview mirror,
00:02:46.680 which is a traffic violation in the state.
00:02:49.400 Now, you might be thinking, why in the hell do you need police to have this kind of confrontation
00:02:54.400 for something as simple and small as an air freshener? 0.91
00:02:57.880 I know it sounds ridiculous, but this same thing has happened to me multiple times. 0.98
00:03:03.960 And if you're Black, I probably don't need to tell you that these kinds of low-level traffic stops can turn violent or deadly pretty quickly. 0.97
00:03:12.460 According to Harvard's School of Public Health, Black people are more than three times likely as white people to be killed during a police encounter. 0.97
00:03:19.380 And studies have also found that Black drivers are far more likely to be stopped by police than white drivers. 0.97
00:03:25.260 So, yeah, just driving around your own community as a Black person can be a death sentence. 0.90
00:03:31.760 When Dante, who, you know, at 20 years old, is still so young, was being pulled over,
00:03:36.960 he initially called his mom for help.
00:03:39.320 And something about that just really breaks my heart.
00:03:42.780 In an emotional press conference following his death, Dante's mother, Katie Wright,
00:03:47.500 shared her heartbreak.
00:03:48.800 And it's really hard to listen to.
00:03:51.020 I just need everyone to know that he was my life.
00:03:55.100 He was my son.
00:03:56.800 And I can never get that back.
00:03:58.980 Because of a mistake.
00:04:00.780 The Brooklyn Center, Minnesota, police chief said that Kim Porter, the police officer who killed Dante, meant to use her taser, but grabbed her gun instead.
00:04:10.120 But if you've ever held a taser and a gun, I've held both, you know they feel really different.
00:04:15.700 So how does a police union president and a 26-year veteran of the police force like Kim Porter make this kind of, quote, mistake?
00:04:24.340 Dante's dad is not having it.
00:04:26.860 Here's what he had to say on Good Morning America today.
00:04:28.780 I cannot accept that. I lost my son. He's never coming back. I can't accept that. A mistake, that's not, that doesn't even sound right. You know, this officer that's been on the force for 26 plus, 26 years. I can't accept that.
00:04:48.460 Now that officer, Kim Porter, she resigned this afternoon,
00:04:51.320 but to be clear, this is actually a pretty common thing
00:04:54.180 that officers do when they expect to be fired
00:04:56.180 because it can be kind of a defensive move
00:04:58.460 to prevent facing further discipline like losing your pension.
00:05:01.580 And right now, there is absolutely nothing
00:05:04.120 stopping her from joining a police force someplace else.
00:05:07.080 And all of this is pretty hard to watch,
00:05:10.280 especially when you consider that it's happening in Minnesota,
00:05:12.860 just a few short miles away from Minneapolis,
00:05:15.380 where the city is currently gripped by a trial
00:05:17.460 for Officer Derek Chauvin, for killing George Floyd, another unarmed Black man whose death
00:05:23.020 sparked a massive global racial justice movement this past summer. Y'all, it's just a lot. This
00:05:29.760 moment, the Black death, all of it. And here's where it gets even worse for me because we can't 1.00
00:05:36.560 even have this moment without bad actors on social media coming in to exploit our pain.
00:05:43.660 This afternoon, when I logged into Twitter,
00:05:46.080 I found a handful of big, influential, verified far-right accounts
00:05:50.140 comparing Daunte Wright, who was shot and killed for just driving his own car,
00:05:54.360 and Ashley Babbitt, the white woman who you might remember was shot and killed by police
00:05:58.280 while she was pushing her way into the Capitol during the insurrection on January 6th.
00:06:03.400 Popular conspiracy theory podcaster and convicted felon, Dinesh D'Souza,
00:06:08.560 tweeted,
00:06:08.840 Why do we know the name of the cop who killed Dante Wright, but not the name of the cop who killed Ashley Babbitt?
00:06:14.760 These kinds of sentiments were echoed by many big far-right accounts,
00:06:18.680 so much so that Ashley Babbitt's name is currently trending on Twitter right now as I record this.
00:06:23.960 Instead of letting a community that's already been through so much mourn this loss,
00:06:28.700 bad actors are trying to seize on the conversation and use it to distort and downplay the insurrection on January 6th.
00:06:35.220 One person tweeted,
00:06:36.880 Ashley Babbitt innocently entered an open Capitol as part of a legitimate protest,
00:06:41.640 a Capitol purposely left mostly unprotected to entice them in.
00:06:45.800 She was unarmed, as were all protesters on that day.
00:06:49.060 An unarmed insurrection, she was shot dead for her opinion.
00:06:52.640 Who killed her?
00:06:54.060 I mean, there's just so much wrong with that statement.
00:06:58.080 And as much as I see the worst of what humanity has to offer online,
00:07:01.360 from following the darkest corners of the internet for this very podcast day in and day out,
00:07:06.360 I have to say, this just hurt.
00:07:09.920 And this is what I mean when I say discourse on social media has reached a point
00:07:13.580 where sometimes it seems impossible to have any kind of real dialogue,
00:07:17.880 even about things that are important or impactful.
00:07:20.880 And it should also just go to show how brazen bad actors are on social media.
00:07:25.960 Now, I don't believe that anyone deserves to be killed by the police.
00:07:30.000 Full stop. 0.98
00:07:31.360 But to compare Ashley Babbitt, someone who was forcing her way into the Capitol through 0.96
00:07:35.420 a broken window during a violent and deadly insurrection, and Dante Wright, someone who
00:07:40.180 was just driving his car, minding his own business, is so deeply disingenuous that it's
00:07:45.040 insulting.
00:07:45.820 I am insulted.
00:07:46.760 We should all be insulted. 1.00
00:07:48.360 And peep the way these bad actors are trying to use race to further stoke this division.
00:07:53.060 They say the officer who killed Ashley Babbitt is a black man, and we know the officer who
00:07:57.360 killed Dante Wright is a white woman.
00:07:59.820 The Daily Wire's Matt Walsh tweeted, 0.98
00:08:02.260 If everything else was the same but Ashley Babbitt was a liberal black woman
00:08:05.960 and the cop who shot her was a white man,
00:08:08.140 there would be murals painted in her honor across the country
00:08:10.700 and that cop would be on trial for murder.
00:08:13.560 It's so obvious what they're doing,
00:08:15.440 and by now we should recognize this as a page right out of the bad actor playbook.
00:08:20.160 These people seize on conversations that are already racially or politically charged
00:08:24.180 and flatten them out and distort them
00:08:26.040 until it seems impossible to have any kind
00:08:27.880 of meaningful conversation at all.
00:08:30.220 They want to divide us.
00:08:31.920 They want outrage.
00:08:33.480 They zero in on our tensions and our pain points
00:08:36.020 and poke at them until they throb.
00:08:38.660 I talk so much about disinformation,
00:08:40.980 what it does to our discourse and our democracy,
00:08:43.220 but this is its true cost.
00:08:45.520 Even in tragedy, even in death, they exploit.
00:08:49.760 Nothing is sacred, nothing.
00:08:52.700 It's sick.
00:08:54.080 It makes me sick.
00:08:58.160 I'm tired, y'all, and I'm sure y'all are too.
00:09:01.820 I'm sick of having to defend our humanity again and again
00:09:05.020 to people who are hell-bent on using our pain, our lives,
00:09:08.680 and our identities and our deaths to score cheap points
00:09:11.560 and push false narratives that end up hurting us all.
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