There Are No Girls on the Internet - April 02, 2021


Why everyone is mad at Jimmy Fallon and Addison Rae

DISINFORMED: In Georgia, disinformation is now law So you’re the target of an online hate campaign. Now what?

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7 minutes

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1,213

Sentence count

73

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Misogyny

5

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Toxicity

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00:00:00.000 There Are No Girls on the Internet is a production of iHeartRadio and Unbossed Creative.
00:00:12.120 I'm Bridget Todd, and this is There Are No Girls on the Internet.
00:00:17.600 If you don't follow TikTok, you might not know why everyone is mad at Jimmy Fallon and Addison Rae.
00:00:22.720 Let me break it down for you.
00:00:24.580 Last week on The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon, TikTok dance star Addison Rae joined host Jimmy Fallon for a segment called Addison Rae Teases Jimmy Eight TikTok Dances.
00:00:34.240 Now on its face, it was a cute segment where Addison Rae showed Jimmy Fallon how to do eight dances that have gone viral on the platform TikTok, as Jimmy held up signs for the audience with each dance's name.
00:00:44.260 But the backlash started when folks pointed out that like most viral dances on TikTok, the dances were created by Black youth on the platform.
00:00:51.180 Now, Jimmy Fallon's team says when they uploaded the segment to YouTube, they included the
00:00:54.880 credits in the description, but that's pretty different from crediting them on the show.
00:00:59.220 And it would have been pretty easy to put the name of the creator on the title card,
00:01:02.880 but they didn't.
00:01:04.100 If you were watching, you might have even thought that Addison, who is white, created
00:01:07.700 the dances. 0.99
00:01:09.100 This is just the latest example of what Black creators on social media say happens to them
00:01:13.360 all the time.
00:01:14.420 They create something that takes off on social media platforms, and it's just assumed to
00:01:18.880 belong to the entire internet.
00:01:20.620 Which, on its face, doesn't seem so terrible, but it actually does matter who gets credit for things that go big online and who doesn't. 0.65
00:01:27.280 Other people benefit materially from things that Black people create online, while those original Black creators go overlooked, and in some cases, completely unnamed. 0.99
00:01:36.760 We in this bitch, finna get crunk. 1.00
00:01:40.160 Our braids on fleek, the fuck. 1.00
00:01:42.780 Most of us have heard the expression on fleek. 1.00
00:01:45.420 I heard it in advertisements from everything from hefty bags to Arby's.
00:01:49.320 But Peaches Monroe, the Black teen who first popularized the expression in a Vine video,
00:01:54.640 didn't see a dime from the corporations who capitalized off of her creation.
00:01:58.840 This happens again and again, especially on platforms like TikTok.
00:02:02.860 Last year, 14-year-old Jalila Harmon filmed herself doing the renegade dance on Instagram.
00:02:08.020 TikTok user Global.Jones copied the dance on TikTok, and it started spreading.
00:02:13.160 That's when huge TikToker, Charlie D'Amelio, who has over 100,000 followers on the platform,
00:02:19.400 posted a video of herself doing it, and then it took off like wildfire.
00:02:22.940 The dance showed up on big shows like Good Morning America.
00:02:26.120 Only nobody credited Jalila, and Charlie D'Amelio became known as, quote,
00:02:30.760 the CEO of the Renegade Dance Challenge.
00:02:33.580 Now compare that to someone like Kombucha Girl, a white woman named Brittany Tomlinson. 0.99
00:02:38.480 When Britney's hilarious TikTok video of her skeptical taste-testing kombucha for the first time went viral, 0.85
00:02:44.080 she was credited and ended up being in a Super Bowl commercial because of that TikTok.
00:02:49.100 Meanwhile, it took users on social media to aggressively advocate for Jalila,
00:02:53.840 for her to even be credited with creating the Renegade Challenge.
00:02:57.540 Getting credited for things that you create online can be life-changing.
00:03:00.560 It can mean opportunities, endorsements, and more.
00:03:03.200 And it shouldn't be such a fight for Black creators to simply be credited for what they create online.
00:03:07.760 Law professor K.J. Green argues that both online and offline, Black public creativity has been rendered public domain in ways that can often leave Black creators getting screwed. 0.96
00:03:18.320 Now, Black folks have always had our stuff stolen, but the speed of the Internet means that our intellectual property, our dances and jokes and ideas, can be stolen really quickly. 0.98
00:03:27.640 As Shamira Ibrahim puts it over at broadly, this means the means in which Black niches 0.99
00:03:32.880 have been rifled through, hand-selected, and proliferated may not be new, but the advent
00:03:36.940 of social media has accelerated the speed at which these trends have floored into the
00:03:40.900 mainstream and ultimately corporatized for gain, especially in instances where the nuances
00:03:45.820 of the privacy policy may contain obscure language that allows for corporations to own,
00:03:50.660 license, and publish original and innovative content at their whim, however unethical it
00:03:54.920 may be.
00:03:56.080 Now, Addison Rae has since acknowledged the backlash to the Jimmy Fallon segment.
00:03:59.900 It's kind of hard to credit during the show, but they all know that I love them so much.
00:04:04.780 And I mean, I support all of them so much.
00:04:07.180 And hopefully one day we can all meet up and dance together.
00:04:10.840 I want to see a world where crediting Black digital creators for their brilliance isn't just an afterthought.
00:04:16.400 To hear more about Black digital creators and the struggle to be credited,
00:04:20.100 check out the episode of There Are No Girls on the Internet with Black creator Mara Sebastian.
00:04:23.660 You can find the link to the full episode in the show description.
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