Vulgar History - May 19, 2021


Women Trapped in Towers, part 3: The Mad Queen Who Lived With Ghosts

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00:00:00.000 hello and welcome to vulgar history a feminist women's history comedy podcast
00:00:19.120 my name is ann foster and this season we are looking at women trapped in towers and the 0.93
00:00:23.900 assholes who sent them there and here's the thing about this season which is like
00:00:28.800 It's numerous stories that I'm excited to share with you because I just want to share them with somebody and you're who there is to share with. 0.89
00:00:37.960 But there's a lot of cool points.
00:00:40.780 And last week, didn't I say specifically that just because someone's story might end in murder or tragedy that doesn't retroactively mean their whole life is tragic.
00:00:50.440 but here's the thing when you read enough stories about women whose lives
00:00:54.140 end with like multi-year trapped in towers helpless scenarios it it does get a little sad
00:01:02.100 so i'm going to try and focus on interesting and cool things as well as the inevitable trapped in
00:01:08.140 towers parts and i don't know let's just be a cautionary lesson to me to try and not choose
00:01:14.180 a theme that ends with like every story ending in the same frustratingly tragic way anyway
00:01:21.820 I also wanted to mention that you may not know this I didn't know this when I first started
00:01:30.160 studying history in my undergrad is that social history is what this podcast is about and that's
00:01:37.420 what I'm almost exclusively interested in and that's the history of like people and their real
00:01:43.020 lives and their lived experiences rather than there's other people who study other people who
00:01:47.880 study military history or like the history of, you know, sea battles or whatever. So I'm really
00:01:54.980 looking at people and what their, their feelings were and what their lives were like, like day to
00:01:59.340 day, which I bring up just because in the past two episodes and in this episode and in future
00:02:05.240 episodes there's a lot of um land battles going on i don't want to come across like that stuff
00:02:13.400 didn't matter because that sort of spells out what happens to so many people because there's
00:02:18.420 so many people fighting over so much land and territory but that's just not what we're looking
00:02:23.020 at today what we're doing is just like coloring it you know if like you've got your coloring page
00:02:27.100 of history like the the shapes or maybe it's more like a connect the dots situation but like
00:02:33.600 what the kings were doing what the wars what wars were happening what like religious genocides are
00:02:41.320 happening like those are those are kind of the main things that are shaping what happens today
00:02:48.320 in the world that we've inherited from all these people who had all these wars back then
00:02:53.540 and what this podcast is doing and the sort of social history that I like to study and write
00:02:58.020 about is what we're shading that in you know maybe bringing in like pencil crayons or you
00:03:05.020 might call them colored pencils to just like bring it all a bit more to life to sort of understand
00:03:11.540 better where it's not just names and dates but it's like people and what they were feeling and
00:03:15.060 I just wanted to bring that up because I'm gonna be glossing over a lot of war stuff
00:03:20.860 in this episode and please know that that stuff is important and there's lots of other people
00:03:25.980 who've written extensively about that but i'm talking about a woman who has not been extensively
00:03:31.060 written about to the point that when you google her or at least when i did maybe this is just like
00:03:36.340 the internet knowing who i am or whatever but like the first search result was my own essay i wrote
00:03:41.580 which is like kind of startling because um there's come on more people need to write about this stuff
00:03:49.460 who we're looking at today is isabel of portugal the queen of castile and leon
00:03:55.760 and so my sources for this were wikipedia i'm also a piece on encyclopedia.com
00:04:03.840 an essay from the venerable vixens.wordpress.com who is a blog who writes about cool women in
00:04:10.860 history and then also like apparently the one and only biography ever written of this woman
00:04:15.240 isabel the queen life and times by peggy k liss and just to situate this all in a time and place
00:04:22.680 because you know we've been doing sort of england based things for a while but we're hopping across
00:04:27.860 over into portugal slash spain but this is a sort of time period where it wasn't like one
00:04:36.040 giant unified country that we would call spain it's like all little kingdoms so it's that sort
00:04:40.640 of time when what we would call france now was like all little kingdoms and england kind of was
00:04:45.160 two okay so just to place this in like the overall family tree of like european royal people who are
00:04:52.000 all married to each other and all the same names so we've got isabelle of portugal who we're looking
00:04:57.540 at today her daughter one of her daughters was isabella the first of castile who we talked
00:05:05.960 about in season two that was isabelle who married ferdinand she's one whose story was kind of like
00:05:10.560 wow look at this woman who's like living this horrible situation and then oh wow now she's
00:05:15.400 queen and they're like oh no now she's doing genocide it was that was her story um in season
00:05:20.740 two and so Isabelle we're talking about today is the mother of her Isabella from Ferdinand and
00:05:27.940 Isabella is herself the mother of Catherine of Aragon the first wife of Henry VIII Catherine
00:05:34.660 of Aragon being the mother of Queen Mary the first um and then just backtracking Isabella
00:05:42.040 from Ferdinand Isabella her other daughter one of her other daughters was Juana of Castile aka 0.80
00:05:47.500 Juana La Loca the famous the famous quote-unquote mad queen so the thing that all these women have
00:05:56.380 in common Isabella Portugal Isabella the first of Castile Catherine of Aragon Mary the first
00:06:02.040 juana of castile is they were all seen at various times and various levels as insane women so it's
00:06:09.740 like are they is this a genetic thing like is is this like an inbreeding situation like why are
00:06:16.600 they all quote-unquote mad and it's like no it's just they were all in situations that
00:06:22.220 would affect a lot of people psychologically they also were very strong-willed they were raised like
00:06:28.840 each of them had a mother who was very strong-willed who raised them to be strong-willed
00:06:32.080 and the men around them were just like whoa what's this woman with an opinion she must be crazy
00:06:36.140 so this is why I started looking at like backtracking back to who we're actually talking
00:06:41.380 about Isabel of Portugal was because I was reading about Juana of Castile and it said like did she
00:06:47.960 inherit the madness quote-unquote from her grandmother and I'm like oh who's her grandmother
00:06:52.320 and then I started reading about Isabel and I'm just like oh my god it's just like it's all the
00:06:56.500 same things we keep seeing but it's in a different way she's her own person there's some very
00:07:01.700 interesting stuff going on in this so we're going back to 15th century portugal where isabel was born
00:07:10.940 in 1428 into the powerful aviz family of portugal so her mother was named isabella of braganza
00:07:21.300 everyone in this family just called Isabelle Isabella and her father Joao was the uncle of
00:07:27.460 the Portuguese king so her father is the uncle of the king I'm not I can't quite tell you what
00:07:36.200 that makes Isabelle's relationship to him but the Portuguese king is Afonso V so whatever her
00:07:43.680 specific relation to him was it basically meant that as soon as she was born it was like she's
00:07:48.040 one of those girls where it's like who are we going to marry her to we're going to make some
00:07:51.380 great alliances like here we go so her family decided to marry her off to king juan the second
00:07:58.600 of castile and this is where all of her problems began because he was really awful um because like
00:08:08.800 every husband is in every podcast i do so the thing about king juan the second of castile
00:08:14.980 isabel's betrothed is it's a very henry the sixth margaret of anjou situation where juan was he was
00:08:24.740 he was not a great king in that sort of like useless way where like maybe he would have been
00:08:30.280 great in some other career path but he just did not have the disposition to be a very effective
00:08:35.340 king in like warring medieval europe in a very similar to henry the sixth actually he was although
00:08:44.000 6 was more kind of like monk guy like pacifist juan i think was just sort of like useless
00:08:49.020 so he was sort of an early adopter of the renaissance prince idea of like the guy who
00:08:56.340 um just hangs out reading poetry discussing philosophy and like tapping his beard going
00:09:01.980 hmm interesting point like which is a great way to be but not when you're the king of castile
00:09:07.260 and everybody is invading everywhere because it's the late medieval period in western europe
00:09:12.100 so you might think well why didn't someone seize power from him if he was so useful
00:09:17.060 and the thing is the people did not seize power from him because like henry the sixth he had a
00:09:22.080 very powerful and influential and scary right-hand man and in this case juan's right-hand man was
00:09:28.220 named alvaro de luna and he literally murdered everyone who got in the king's way so if you're
00:09:37.280 so it's kind of like juan was like the face of being the king but de luna was sort of like
00:09:43.780 actually the one doing everything for instance juan's first wife was a woman named maria of
00:09:50.500 aragon they had four children together but only one survived because of the regular like
00:09:55.640 rate of child death etc and the only child that survived was like luckily for them because it's
00:10:02.660 you know, sons are important for like inheriting reasons in this time and place was a son named
00:10:08.260 Prince Enrique. And the thing is that he was awful. He was, he was bad in a more malevolent
00:10:17.060 way. Juan was just kind of useless, but Enrique was just, we'll find out. So Enrique grew up and 0.91
00:10:25.580 became a man and got married to a woman named Bianca Blanca, the second of Navarre. I know
00:10:32.200 i'm just like jumping around person to person but bear in mind eventually we're gonna so juan
00:10:37.500 is gonna become isabel's husband but prior to this to him being engaged to this young child
00:10:43.200 he had a wife and four children and his one surviving child from this first marriage
00:10:46.940 to blanca was a boy named enrique enrique grew up like juan is like a lot older than isabel
00:10:55.000 like enrique like juan's son is a lot older than isabel like it's a much younger bride situation
00:11:02.020 Enrique married Blanca years went by they didn't have any children like this is anyway a lot of
00:11:11.340 this really reminds me of a lot of the aspects of the Margaret of Anjou situation but here so
00:11:17.260 Enrique was the heir to the throne of 15th century Castile having some sons was pretty
00:11:23.360 non-negotiable for like what he was supposed to do in his life everyone was just like why aren't
00:11:29.220 enrique and blanca having any kids where the bigger question was like wait have these two
00:11:34.660 even consummated their marriage that they've been married in for numerous years and the answer was
00:11:41.100 that much like oh god who is a catherine de manici's husband again and potentially the six 0.95
00:11:49.300 enrique had an unusually shaped penis i can't believe this is the second episode 0.99
00:11:53.640 will there be more where everything hinges on someone's unusually shaped penis he couldn't 1.00
00:12:00.200 impregnate a woman because of the shape of his penis whatever that looked like um so he had like 0.98
00:12:08.440 this sort of unusual shaped penis which meant that he could not impregnate a woman but that's 0.98
00:12:15.820 sort of like a bit too um detailed for medieval gossipy people so everyone just started calling 0.95
00:12:21.720 him el importante like the impotent so like we're gonna get back to isabel very soon but you really
00:12:29.900 need to understand about enrique and juan and this whole situation so juan the useless king
00:12:37.120 was just like reading poetry while his evil advisor de luna was just like you look juan
00:12:43.580 your son enrique is clearly never gonna have any children and your wife maria is past her
00:12:48.280 childbearing years so you should get a new younger wife and start having some more sons so we can
00:12:52.320 have like a line of succession going on here but as a catholic king in a catholic country Juan
00:12:58.740 couldn't divorce Maria his wife so he was like well I don't know what what do you suggest we do
00:13:03.880 DeLuna and DeLuna was like well what I suggest and what I'm going to do is to poison Maria
00:13:09.280 to death and he did murder was just kind of his thing and this is why Juan 43 years old was
00:13:18.200 on the market for a new wife and it was at this point de luna went out to try and find a suitable
00:13:22.360 match you know someone young tangentially royal and fertile and it was de luna who noticed 19
00:13:30.080 year old isabel and thought oh she seems both fertile and compliant and began writing up papers
00:13:35.560 for this new marriage so isabel the main point the heroine of today we don't know a lot about
00:13:44.620 her as a person but what we do know is that she had dark eyes she was beautiful and like all of
00:13:51.000 her female descendants she felt things very strongly she had strongly held opinions about
00:13:57.600 things and felt things very strongly so the ideal at this point in this place in time 15th century
00:14:04.160 Portugal was for young women to be beautiful but also submissive and just you know godly
00:14:10.520 and whatever but isabelle was a passionate sort of person whose personality would not be restrained
00:14:15.300 by societal conventions like we don't know much about many other women who were living in late
00:14:20.660 medieval portugal apart from how pretty they were but isabelle's personality was so interesting and
00:14:26.760 unconventional that people wrote about it like so it had to be quite interesting frankly because
00:14:32.580 no one was in the habit of writing about personalities of teenagers teenage girls
00:14:37.680 so before they got officially married Juan came down to meet Isabel just to make sure this was
00:14:43.480 like you know that there was chemistry there he was immediately smitten with her because she was
00:14:49.040 super interesting passionate maybe unlike other women he had met she was also 19 and fertile 0.67
00:14:55.460 so but what did she think of her 43 year old husband um and again she was not known for having
00:15:04.800 a poker face or trying to hide her thoughts and she was not enthusiastic about it but she had no
00:15:10.020 say in the matter and they got married. Isabel is not just beautiful and passionate and opinionated
00:15:17.960 she's also very smart very clever very observant so she instantaneously realized the toxic power
00:15:24.900 relationship going on between her new husband Juan and his murderous advisor De Luna. She was like
00:15:31.100 why does Juan my husband just lie around reciting poetry when he's the king and he should be doing
00:15:35.560 king things like why is De Luna in charge of literally everything including how often and
00:15:39.980 for how long the two of them have sex because yeah De Luna was so meddling and obsessed with
00:15:46.560 power that he literally scheduled when Juan and Isabel could have sex and then he otherwise just
00:15:51.680 sort of lurked around murderously so in sort of like a Jane Eyre slash Crimson Peak slash Rebecca
00:16:02.380 sort of way like I feel like Isabel might have started to suspect that maybe her predecessor
00:16:08.420 Juan's first wife Maria might not have died of natural causes and that she started to suspect
00:16:13.600 that Delina might be trying to poison her as well which is like kind of his thing so this is a
00:16:19.680 situation where paranoia is like and we've talked about other ones in this podcast but it's like
00:16:24.300 is it paranoid when literally there's someone who actively is poisoning you like no that's just being
00:16:30.080 smart and having good instincts so isabel decided it was time to get rid of de luna juan was like
00:16:40.400 henry the sixth juan was so useless he couldn't be without someone telling him what to do all the
00:16:44.780 time so isabel decided that okay he needs someone like telling him what to do all the time like
00:16:49.720 that would be me his wife his 19 year old wife i will be his new advisor so sort of like in the
00:16:57.620 movie the favorite but more murdery isabel and de luna began well they just entered into a rivalry
00:17:05.680 to see which of them would end up being the ultimate survivor as his advisor so similar to
00:17:11.220 margaret of anjou and what's his face from the first episode right um isabel like margaret had 1.00
00:17:20.600 one tactic that de luna couldn't match her on and that was sexy times so she would whisper
00:17:26.120 suggestions to juan when they were in bed together you know like i don't know it was a time when they 0.97
00:17:32.120 could be together de luna wasn't around and she could sort of like be like wouldn't it be cool
00:17:37.580 if you got rid of de luna and juan was like i do the last thing someone told me to and the next
00:17:42.740 morning de luna would come and talk to him and be like can we murder your wife and juan was like
00:17:46.520 okay i'll do what the last person talked to me to says like he's just not even a person um
00:17:53.940 isabel became pregnant and at which point she gained even more influence over juan because
00:17:59.260 having a child made her more important because she was like the parent of potentially
00:18:02.920 like Enrique was still the heir to the throne but she was going to be kind of like
00:18:06.940 the spare the mother of the spare to the throne because Enrique didn't have children because 0.94
00:18:11.440 weird-shaped penis and Enrique again was her stepson who was older than her
00:18:16.280 um the pregnancy itself was bad news for Isabel because this was medieval times and obstetrics 0.99
00:18:23.600 were not especially helpful at the time she had a very rough pregnancy and childbirth was sucks
00:18:29.620 no matter who you are and where you're living um but i feel like 1400s portugal especially not a
00:18:37.000 great place to have a tough pregnancy and childbirth but both she and the baby both survived
00:18:43.540 and this was her daughter isabel or isabella who would later become isabella the first the catholic
00:18:50.300 queen isabel and ferdinand um and i also really love this thing like remember isabel's mother was
00:18:56.460 Isabella then she calls her daughter Isabella you know I really love I think we could bring back
00:19:01.600 women naming their daughters after themselves I think that's cool um anyway she survived the 0.85
00:19:10.780 baby survived great news um but then due to hormonal shifts and sleep deprivation and
00:19:17.340 potentially just like the overall PTSD of this horrible birth situation in medieval Portugal
00:19:23.740 um isabel experienced some really awful postpartum symptoms and instead of people being like
00:19:30.840 postpartum is a real thing let's support her with talk therapy medication and like really take care
00:19:35.860 of her the doctors at the time were like oh my god she's gone mad and basically abandoned her
00:19:41.640 into her like depression so isabel did the best she could um survival wise having you know health
00:19:50.700 issues and mental health issues so she apparently alternated between sitting around being mostly 0.52
00:19:57.260 borderline catatonic um and having screaming rage fits those are her two moods and both of which are
00:20:05.720 understandable given the situation she's in she shut herself into a room by herself and would
00:20:10.660 only speak to juan which considering de luna is still on the scene and she didn't know who she
00:20:16.280 could trust and she he was possibly still trying to kill her all the time this makes sense to me
00:20:21.300 that you'd only talk to him but also um a side effect of this like she would only talk to juan
00:20:28.900 and that made juan even more devoted and loyal to her because he liked that he was the only person
00:20:33.600 she talked to so maybe this is partially a ploy to her like amid her like postpartum issues she
00:20:41.160 was also able to like find a way to be more persuasive to him so juan finally came on board
00:20:46.680 with operation get rid of de luna um so it's sort of like so she's scheming even in the midst of like
00:20:56.060 horrific medieval postpartum situation which we'll remember when we're scoring her later on
00:21:00.700 but whilst all this was going on de luna still creeping around trying to figure out a way to
00:21:09.520 murder isabel and or to regain his influence over the king but isabel bedridden postpartum in a
00:21:17.520 medieval castle was three steps ahead of him even still and she brought in a third co-conspirator
00:21:23.320 to help out her side because she could use the help her new helper was a man named alonzo perez
00:21:31.480 de vivero but then alonzo so he was sort of like double dealing he was like pretending to not be
00:21:37.800 working with her but he really was working with her but then that was de luna found out that
00:21:42.580 alonso was helping isabel and so de luna murdered alonso by throwing him out of a window in front 0.99
00:21:49.320 of witnesses hashtag defenestration isabel was like oh well since you did that in front of
00:21:57.880 witnesses can we now arrest de luna for murder so he won't be the king's advisor anymore and next
00:22:04.120 thing you know de luna was arrested for murder so did isabel use alonso as a pawn to get de luna
00:22:11.200 arrested like did she mastermind him throwing him out a window in front of witnesses or was that
00:22:16.720 she's like either he'll help me alonso or he'll be murdered but both are good for me isabel i don't 0.96
00:22:24.020 know but i like to give her some credit here she was a scheming mastermind even in the midst of
00:22:30.300 ongoing um mental health concerns so de luna was put on trial um and while the trial was like
00:22:41.100 underway isabel was pregnant again and she was spending her time trying to not die in childbirth
00:22:47.440 for the second time the trial ended with de luna found guilty and he was executed um which actually
00:22:54.140 upset juan a lot because they had this toxic codependent relationship five months after
00:23:00.880 deluna's execution isabel gave birth to a son who she named alfonso but and this is great like
00:23:08.480 there's a son like hooray this is the whole point of why he married her etc but even this didn't
00:23:14.500 cheer up juan whose health was now suffering from his extreme grief i just feel like henry
00:23:19.280 the six all over again frankly juan became so ill from grief at losing de luna i guess um he was not
00:23:28.800 eating well and also just like that leaves you susceptible your immune system overall germs of
00:23:34.700 like living in medieval times with no one washing their hands so his son enrique aka el importante
00:23:41.420 was called to royal court because he might need to take over as king because juan was so sickly
00:23:47.700 so this is a great time to check up on like well what has enrique aka el impotente been up to
00:23:54.440 throughout these these last few soap opera telenovela years so unsurprisingly um for 0.96
00:24:02.720 assholes throughout history enrique blamed his wife blanca for their childlessness 0.91
00:24:07.880 and divorced her like okay original henry the eighth and a trial just like when henry the eighth 0.96
00:24:14.600 and all his marriage to Anne of Cleves or when what's his face tried to stop Francis Howard from
00:24:18.760 divorcing him Enrique was like I can have sex with any woman in the world other than Blanca 0.99
00:24:23.960 it's her fault not me my penis totally works fine it's just her I can't have sex with her I don't 1.00
00:24:30.540 know why and Blanca was like are you kidding me and Enrique was like Blanca also was a witch 1.00
00:24:36.660 she has ensorcelled she's a sorceress she put cast a spell on my penis which is totally functional 1.00
00:24:43.500 by the way and then blanca had to do like francis howard style medieval courtroom pap smear scenario 1.00
00:24:50.780 where people went to look up inside of her vagina to see if she was still a virgin or not and guess 1.00
00:24:57.960 what she was because enrique had an oddly shaped penis that could not go inside of vaginas so 0.99
00:25:04.620 the marriage i don't think it was divorce it must have been annul because they were catholic 0.99
00:25:10.160 one way or another blanca was still alive and enrique got to marry again so he got married
00:25:17.900 to a woman named juana of portugal and what it's shocking to know that these two did not conceive
00:25:25.220 any children and she also still had an intact hymen because guess what it is enrique is the
00:25:32.560 reason they weren't having children but he kept blaming his wives so life just keeps going Juan
00:25:41.380 eventually died of grief and also probably you know like tuberculosis or something old-timey
00:25:48.780 dysentery whatever and Enrique became the new king of Castile because that's his son Enrique
00:25:56.860 wasn't much of a fan of his stepmother who was younger than him our heroine Isabelle he also
00:26:02.260 did not like isabelle's two children alfonso and isabella who are his half siblings but it's
00:26:08.820 a thing where like he's an adult and half siblings are toddlers so enrique sent isabelle and her two
00:26:14.200 children off to live in the castle of arevalo which was spooky and i put in my notes crimson
00:26:21.240 peak like he provided isabelle with much less money than she was accustomed to like at all in
00:26:28.500 her life so which meant that she her two children and her continuing postpartum mental health
00:26:34.600 concerns um i'm thinking of like britney spears who had the two children right in a row and also 1.00
00:26:39.900 had all these mental health issues that were not being helped by her terrible family so isabel two 0.98
00:26:46.340 children mental issues um she's living now this frugal lifestyle no one was allowed to visit them
00:26:54.200 and would you be shocked to know that she continued to be depressed and got more depressed
00:26:59.700 like oh my god quote-unquote madness right meanwhile Enrique and his new wife Juana 0.98
00:27:07.280 guess what still don't have any kids guess what weird-shaped penis so the next king like they 0.92
00:27:13.780 didn't have an heir he just like needed an heir and so the heir was basically going to need to be 0.95
00:27:20.260 isabel's son alfonso which enrique did not like because he didn't like alfonso he didn't like
00:27:24.740 isabel and he wanted to like father his own children and he did not understand basic anatomy
00:27:28.660 but then suddenly out of nowhere after seven years of marriage his wife enrique's wife juana
00:27:34.440 was pregnant she also coincidentally at around that same time allegedly had taken a lover named
00:27:41.920 beltran de la cueva juana had a baby daughter who she named after herself because that's just what
00:27:48.440 you do in those days in that place her baby is called juana and everybody was like okay we all
00:27:55.940 secretly they're all just like okay we all kind of like are in agreement that enrique is clearly
00:28:01.020 not the father of this baby right everyone just sort of accepted that and so that baby became
00:28:06.980 known as juana la beltraneja so remember juana seniors alleged lover was beltran so her daughter
00:28:15.460 was called Juana la Beltroneja meaning like the daughter of Beltran like everyone just called her
00:28:22.200 that that was I'm sure Enrique freaked out about that a lot so now she was kind of the heir but
00:28:29.560 like let's see what happens so at around the same time Isabelle's children Isabella and Alfonso were
00:28:37.260 finally freed from living with their mother at the castle of Arevalo and they got to came up hang
00:28:42.020 out at royal court with their half-brother their much older half-brother Enrique aka El Impotente
00:28:47.820 this was great news for them because they were children and it's great to see the sun and
00:28:53.200 socialize and not be trapped in a spooky ghost castle with your mother who is in the midst of
00:28:57.860 a years-long mental health crisis this was bad news for Isabel because without her children 0.70
00:29:04.040 she lost what was left of her grip on reality allegedly Isabella Isabelle wound up not
00:29:11.780 recognizing anyone not even family members and spent her days and nights wandering the empty
00:29:16.160 castle corridors screaming at ghosts and I mean at this point can we all agree like who can blame
00:29:22.100 her after what has happened to her apparently one of the ghosts who she saw who she screamed at was 0.99
00:29:27.480 that of her old nemesis De Luna and if he was haunting her even in death just like fuck that 0.96
00:29:32.460 guy honestly leave her alone during this time period also her son alfonso died suddenly at age 0.98
00:29:38.980 14 of oldie time disease reasons but there were rumors that maybe he was poisoned which given
00:29:46.200 everyone who's around here you know as much a possibility as anything else so this means there
00:29:52.460 was no male heirs because we had enrique's daughter juana la beltraneja we have isabella's
00:30:01.900 daughter Isabella there's just no boy heirs anywhere you look and then we talked about this
00:30:09.640 a bit in Isabella episode so when Isabella's daughter Isabella was a bit older she pretended
00:30:14.800 to be going to visit her mother at the castle of Arevalo when in fact she was running off to get
00:30:19.100 secretly married to Ferdinand and you can listen to that in season two but I will note that when
00:30:27.880 Isabella became an adult Isabella she phases off against Enrique and various other people and then
00:30:35.460 she with her husband Ferdinand like takes over and becomes the queen and she also in her adulthood 0.81
00:30:41.540 oversaw care of her mother Isabelle so in 1496 word reached Isabella that her mother was on her 0.91
00:30:48.720 deathbed and Isabella returned to the castle of Arevalo for real to be with her mother in her
00:30:54.160 final days in her final in this the final years isabel had forgotten her own identity apparently 0.99
00:31:02.620 and just wandered around being sort of randomly aggressive shortly after this mother-daughter
00:31:08.000 reunion isabel of portugal passed away aged 68 she was interred at next to her husband juan and
00:31:18.180 her son alfonso i mean it just i guess pretty next to juan because he was the king and stuff
00:31:24.280 but like not a good husband to her her legacy of this is where i started looking about her is just
00:31:32.820 like she had such a strong vivacious personality and there's just undone by like the world just 0.91
00:31:38.380 like beating it out of her possibly literally but absolutely metaphorically but then this sort of 1.00
00:31:45.740 like super strong opinionated powerful smart woman thing like you see those traits in her 1.00
00:31:52.140 daughter Isabella who became one of the most consequential monarchs in European history 1.00
00:31:58.500 Catherine of Aragon her granddaughter who never backed down even after Henry VIII tried to dump
00:32:04.300 her Juana of Castile who also was surrounded by horrible people who said she was mad and
00:32:10.980 was also a very spirited person and then her great-granddaughter mary the first
00:32:16.000 was the first woman named officially queen of england and she also was seen as being sort of
00:32:22.160 quote-unquote hysterical and maybe a little bit mad so it all just kind of i don't know these
00:32:27.840 family traits just sort of like repeating and repeating themselves so this is i guess this is
00:32:33.160 a bit of a shorter episode than other ones because there's just not that much known about her there's
00:32:37.500 like one biography ever written about her i think she had a really interesting life i think this
00:32:44.680 would make a fabulous movie um and it's also got so many echoes of the other stories we were looking
00:32:53.300 at for sure so we're going to give her her score isabel of portugal scandalousness this season
00:33:02.380 it's interesting so far because we're looking at women who were sent to towers and or castles
00:33:08.440 hidden away but none of them really so far have done scandalicious things really i mean we've
00:33:18.140 talked in other episodes and other seasons about women who were sent to jail who were very
00:33:21.760 scandalicious like francis howard but we've already talked about them they're not in this
00:33:25.260 season so isabel portugal i feel like her skin like her personal she was surrounded by
00:33:30.740 scandalousness but she personally behaved very unscandaliciously she married her husband there's
00:33:38.060 no rumors of having affairs or anything she just like tried to do what she okay okay you know what
00:33:44.960 I forgot there's just the Alfonso and then pushing or Alonzo having him push out the window
00:33:53.040 but that's scheminess that's not scandalousness I'm gonna give her a two for scandalousness just 0.57
00:33:58.860 because she was surrounded by so much like a little bit wore off on her her scheminess i think 1.00
00:34:04.500 is great her scheminess score is high because she did a number of things like all of the trying to
00:34:10.080 get like every day she'd have to like get her the king her husband to do what she said instead of
00:34:15.940 what de luna was saying and then she'd have to do that constantly and then also like having to go
00:34:20.120 head to head against de luna and then she won even though she was in the midst of like serious 0.96
00:34:24.420 medieval postpartum situations like 10 for scheminess for her her significance um personally
00:34:35.640 like in a family tree type way like her descendants became consequential in the history of both
00:34:47.060 england and also spain she herself though like she didn't have a chance to really do anything
00:34:56.060 of significance other than scheme and get rid of de luna which was good for the world but then 1.00
00:35:00.480 enrique got rid of her i think i'm just a five for significance she gets a goddamn 10 for the 1.00
00:35:06.840 sexism bonus because she was treated horrifically by like every man around her but then she the 1.00
00:35:15.720 scheminess to sort of like keep fighting against it until one day just you know she couldn't fight 1.00
00:35:20.800 anymore and then she just wandered the castle screaming at ghosts and like I have days like
00:35:26.060 that like totally not to disrespect people with mental health issues but I just want to put into
00:35:31.560 perspective the fact that she's seen as this quote-unquote mad queen who just like oh my god
00:35:37.760 she's going crazy where it's like no like here's a series of things that happened to her and like
00:35:42.260 of course like not having anyone you could trust like being at that heightened level of paranoia
00:35:48.000 like being maybe poisoned for years and then having like traumatic birth experiences and then being
00:35:54.280 shut up in a castle and you can't visit anyone it's like yeah i think a lot of people would end
00:35:59.180 up screaming at ghosts having gone through all of that so that gives her a total score of 27 which
00:36:06.100 i think is very on par very on par with the season so far margaret pole also had a 27 margaret of
00:36:11.500 Anjou had a 26.
00:36:14.160 Um, and that's Isabel of Portugal. 0.99
00:36:17.240 I think a lesser known woman who more people should know about.
00:36:23.720 And so now all of you know about her.
00:36:26.320 And, and so just as a history resource to mention today, this is nothing to do with
00:36:33.640 Isabel specifically, but just history in general.
00:36:37.040 I feel like if you're listening to this podcast, you like me are just interested in history
00:36:40.400 in general.
00:36:41.500 and i've mentioned before um instagram accounts and also books but what so i follow you probably
00:36:48.880 do too if you look at my instagram account which is vulgar history on instagram that's where i
00:36:55.940 follow like all history and podcasts and those sorts of things and i really i love on my regular
00:37:00.940 instagram i do too just to a lesser extent anyway i like to follow accounts that show pictures of
00:37:07.480 people in oldie times especially people who like this gets to the social history as well so not
00:37:15.500 just portraits of kings and queens but like street photography of just sort of like people 1.00
00:37:19.740 who were living somewhere and what I really try to intentionally seek out are um BIPOC people 0.62
00:37:29.660 not white people in historical context because for so long in movies and tv shows and just sort of 0.94
00:37:37.320 like the representation that we see so much about what history looked like is all white people and
00:37:42.560 i find it really it just helps expand your understanding of history and there's always
00:37:48.900 been people of all different colors and so there's an account that i follow that's called
00:37:52.180 emmeline and them and it's curated by kim kim kim underscore burley and so she describes it as
00:37:59.860 because seeing is believing and we've always been us so circa 19th and early 20th century
00:38:04.660 and she shows just images of black people basically from archival photos and it's really
00:38:11.760 really really interesting how these pictures are they don't often show up and just to remember
00:38:20.760 that it's not like the world has always been a place with lots of different colored people in
00:38:25.520 them and it's good to be reminded of that in this sort of like passive way like if it's just in your
00:38:30.120 instagram you scroll through it you're like oh interesting like who's that and then you can kind
00:38:32.820 to read about who the person is um i'm just looking to have a website as well emelineandthem.com
00:38:38.700 so it's an instagram-based archival image repository featuring portraiture of everyday
00:38:43.900 african-americans from the late 1800s and early 1900s created and curated by kimberly anise
00:38:49.620 henderson so that is a history recommendation for you all and just the regular things to remind you
00:38:57.400 of i would super appreciate if you could rate and or review this podcast wherever you listen to it
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00:39:26.420 slash ann foster writer you can see there about the stuff that you get if you pledge different
00:39:31.000 amounts if you pledge um i think it's five dollars but then there's i'm in canada so it's
00:39:38.660 different in the u.s it's like seven dollars or something like that per month you get an extra
00:39:43.300 podcast episode where i just kind of talk about men who suck and i feel like a strong candidate
00:39:48.860 for this month's episode because i do one per month might be enrique aka el impotente because i
00:39:55.180 hate him a lot and i think there's a lot to say there anyway so the money from the patron goes
00:40:00.660 towards this podcast and helping to helping me be able to do this so i appreciate that
00:40:06.540 um if you go to yeah so instagram vulgar history pod twitter vulgar history
00:40:13.580 we have merch i do not yet have merch set up for this season but there is for past
00:40:18.920 women and past seasons and i will i promise set some up there soon so if you want to like get
00:40:24.440 something to celebrate isabel portugal margaret of anjou margaret pole or the other like 17
00:40:30.560 margaret's coming this season stay tuned and so that's a teespring.com slash store slash vulgar
00:40:36.720 history and then i have an ongoing book list book lists on bookshop.org which is a website
00:40:43.140 where when you buy books through them and help support independent bookstores which is more
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00:40:52.580 so bookshop.org slash list slash vulgar history recommends and all those links are or should be
00:40:59.740 in the show notes and next week i don't think i'm spoiling anything too much by saying there's
00:41:06.720 going to be another margaret next week and next week's margaret will not be the last margaret 0.97
00:41:10.740 because it turns out a lot of margaret's got themselves trapped in towers by a lot of assholes 0.99
00:41:15.200 so take care 1.00
00:41:18.200 keep your 1.00
00:41:20.220 masks on and your tits out 1.00
00:41:22.360 and I'll talk to you next time 1.00
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